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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: CFAN38 on November 02, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
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Its not going to happen because when its all said and done this kid goes top 3 but he would be amazing as the Cs center of the future.
7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility. Reading about him and watching his games on youtube he looks to be a long version of tyson chandler. If sully is our PF of the future this kid fits perfect next to him. Not to mention he is an easy lob target for Rondo.
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7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility.
Jesus, wow, that is a long wingspan. I don't think I have ever seen a seven footer (7-1 too) with a wingspan 8 inches longer than his height before. Wow.
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it's still to be seen how this kid is going to evolve... but this summer I watched him abusing spanish junior national team... He's really fast and fluid for such a big kid. Spanish kids are good, we have a lot of talented prospects, but they had no answer for him.
Hopefully he can develop into a starter-type big man, maybe better. He's been compared to Ajinca, but IMO he's a more talented prospect.
It'll be hard to get him, but I'm rooting for him to go to the NBA and make a name for himself.
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(http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/RudyGobert/1339445228.jpg)
Whaaa
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(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)
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(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)
I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds. I can't.
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7'1 with a 7'9 wingspan and PF mobility.
Jesus, wow, that is a long wingspan. I don't think I have ever seen a seven footer (7-1 too) with a wingspan 8 inches longer than his height before. Wow.
It's like a taller bismack
I saw a pic of him holding onto the back board while standing, and I think (happy to be corrected) his standing reach is 9-6
Just wow
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Gobert has come out saying he plans on playing in the NBA next year.
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I've seen some videos of him. I gotta say, his size and wingspan, combined with his mobility alone makes him at least a top 15 pick already. So, the only way to pick him up is moving up the draft or be, and I don't want this, a bad team.
This is just me though, I'm not seeing hops on this kid.
(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)
I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds. I can't.
Can't either.
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It's always so hard to tell with these super skinny guys.
Some of them come to the NBA and look great immediately -- Anthony Davis and John Henson being a couple of recent examples.
Some others have a lot of potential but just can't seem to stick, whether it's work ethic or just not having an NBA body -- Anthony Randolph, Chris Johnson, Jarvis Varnado, and probably JaJaun Johnson.
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Anyone have an update on Gobert? I hear he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire recently.
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Anyone have an update on Gobert? I hear he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire recently.
might not be lighting the world on fire but he did recently play well 14pts 14rb in 27min against Mam Jaiteh (another nba prospect.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Gobert-5878/
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Im not as high on him as I was last year but I did find an interesting statistical comparison.
Gobert @ 20 playing for Cholet
Euro cup 3 games 10min 5pts 85% FG 2RB 1blk 1.7PF
French league 23 gaems 22min 8pts 75% FG 5RB 1.8blk 2 PF
french per 40 15pts 9RB 3.2blk
Kevin Seraphin @ 20 playing for Cholet
Euro cup 6 games 20min 6.5pts 51% FG 6.5RB 1blk 2.8PF
French league 29 games 15min 6 pts 52% FG 4 RB 1blk 2 PF
french per 40 16pts 10rb 2.2blk
Seraphin is currently 23 and averaging 9pts 4rb 1blk a game for the wizards. While not the freak Gobert is Seraphin is also a long player at 6' with 7'3 wingspan and 9'1" standing reach.
At the very least the above comparison shows how a solid rotation nba big (seraphin) performed at the same age against the same level of talent as Gobert.
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NBAdraft.net have the C's grabbing him on 16th pick.
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No thanks.
Just too stiff. Ok quickness and athleticism only. Plus doesn't have great strength. Feel for game and skills only avg.
Not saying he wouldn't be an ok pick, but only if you have time to burn. Will be a project and we already have one in melo.
We need a ready to make an impact next year pick or else someone who if we wait for a year , will be likely very good in the nba. Like Giannis or Saric.
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No thanks.
Just too stiff. Ok quickness and athleticism only. Plus doesn't have great strength. Feel for game and skills only avg.
Not saying he wouldn't be an ok pick, but only if you have time to burn. Will be a project and we already have one in melo.
We need a ready to make an impact next year pick or else someone who if we wait for a year , will be likely very good in the nba. Like Giannis or Saric.
I don't disagree but Giannis is going to take as long or longer than Gobert to develop into a NBA player.
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Watched Utah vs warriors last night it was my first time seeing go set play. He was a steal at #27. He should develop into an elite rim defender, moves so well for his size. I am very high on the KO pick but gobert and Gianni's both are showing potential along with home run potential.
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If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.
The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
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If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.
The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
Absolutely, I haven't seen a lot of him before but I've heard good things about his performance in the tournament and watched France vs Spain and he looked really good. Not just a tall stiff like I thought he might be when he was drafted. I liked that Diot(??) guy, too. Great performance by France overall.
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If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.
The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
That's the only game I've seen him in, and it was a good game for him.
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If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.
The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
Absolutely, I haven't seen a lot of him before but I've heard good things about his performance in the tournament and watched France vs Spain and he looked really good. Not just a tall stiff like I thought he might be when he was drafted. I liked that Diot(??) guy, too. Great performance by France overall.
I wish Diot's first name started with "I".
I.Diot ;D ;D
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It's a little unfair that the Jazz have so many young big men with potential. I am not sure what we have that they would want as they are loaded with quality young players at every position except SF (Novak is probably their starter ??). Would they be interested in Green for Gobert (or Kanter) + salary filler (obviously Favors would be amazing, but I am pretty sure he is untouchable)? It looks as though they are getting ready to compete. They signed Hayward to that huge contract and even gave Trevor Booker 5 mill/yr to play PF.
If Danny hasn't tried to work a deal with Utah, then he should really give it a shot.
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It's a little unfair that the Jazz have so many young big men with potential. I am not sure what we have that they would want as they are loaded with quality young players at every position except SF (Novak is probably their starter ??).
They have Hayward, Burks, and Evans at the wings and drafted Hood and Exum. I doubt Novak plays much at all.
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The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard. He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.
That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet. They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer. They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.
Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner: this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year. They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.
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If anyone else watched France vs Spain last night Gobert is the real deal. He anchored the defense in a very impressive victory. His ability to protect the rim and rebound against the Gasol brothers and Ibaka was very impressive. He is know doubt a starting NBA center in the near future.
The Jazz have a very interesting situation they have reportedly decided Favors is better at the 5, they have Kanter, and now Gobert looks to be emerging as a player who will need minutes. Nice problem to have.
Yeah I'd take Gobert or Kanter off their hands anytime. Not sure what they'd take back though. They're a little light on PFs. Maybe send them KO perhaps and something else. I don't know.
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The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard. He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.
That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet. They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer. They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.
Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner; this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year. They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.
To be fair, I said they were getting ready to compete. I don't see them as a playoff team this year and maybe not next, but they have a lot of young talent and if some of them materialize, they should be in really good shape.
I agree that Hayward should start at sf and Burks had somewhat of a break-out year last year. I know they drafted Hood (as I thought he might be a good fit on the Cs), but he is too young to really contribute right now. Again, they seem loaded at just about every position - which is pretty awesome for them moving forward.
As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?
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He had a good game when it mattered but here are this stats for the league
http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/Rudy-GOBERT
http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=203497
One good game doth not a player make, just ask Exum.
t Gobert is the real deal.
He rebounded well with 5 points. He only scored five points and had one block. Not like he played well enough to be the second coming. Got to love CelticsBlog kneejerk reactions, LOL.
I think Spain shooting 2-22 from three point land hurt them more than Gobert. Heurtel and Diaw always kept them with scoring. But Spains poor three pointing shooting killed them and Gobert did step up with some boards and a key tap. But you make him sound like Wilt Chamberlain which wasn't exactly what I saw in the game.
I still think he has NBA back up written all over him.
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The Jazz's small forward is Hayward; he's more effective at that position than at shooting guard. He was just forced to play out of position last year because Corbin decided that Richard Jefferson was worth starting in the year 2014.
That said, they're NOWHERE near ready to compete yet. They only signed Hayward to such a huge contract because they matched the Bobcats' offer. They will assuredly be a lottery ream yet again.
Kanter is probably more obtainable than Gobert for the simple fact that Kanter will have to be paid sooner; this is the last year of his rookie contract, whereas Gobert is going into his second year. They've already invested big money in Favors and Hayward; I'm not sure if they're sold on Kanter, since he and Favors are both probably better at playing center than power forward.
To be fair, I said they were getting ready to compete. I don't see them as a playoff team this year and maybe not next, but they have a lot of young talent and if some of them materialize, they should be in really good shape.
I agree that Hayward should start at sf and Burks had somewhat of a break-out year last year. I know they drafted Hood (as I thought he might be a good fit on the Cs), but he is too young to really contribute right now. Again, they seem loaded at just about every position - which is pretty awesome for them moving forward.
As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?
I think Exum is their 2 guard of the future - he's raw but that backcourt rotation of Burke/Exum/Burks deserves time to grow. At the wing they have Hayward. I think - correct me if I'm wrong - they have young talent at every position but PF (I think Favors and Kanter are def centers). Wonder if they'd move one of their centers for either KO or Sully?
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(http://www.tabdeportes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1d5.jpg)
I dare someone to look at this picture with a straight face for five seconds. I can't.
[dang] you! I died at 2 seconds
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As for Kanter, is he somebody we would really want entering his final year before [possibly] getting paid? Is his upside really still there?
He's younger than both Sullinger and Olynyk and has never gotten a chance to hold down a full-time starting position for a season. The upside is still very much so there.
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As the president of the Rudy Gobert fan club I just want to say that Utah (the fans)think there is a very good chance that he ends up being a backup or even out of the league in a couple years....so do I.
If we did Zeller 4 Gobert ...I'd be parting like 99'
They would def take KO or Sully for him but I am not too sure about that bc its still a gamble on Gobert, even more than with KO/ Sully
The only way it would work is if we drafted Karl Towns and had Gobert at center. That would be a legit twin towers front court . Towns would destroy other 4's with his skill set and height .
BTW Its late and I'm dreaming.
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He had a good game when it mattered but here are this stats for the league
http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/Rudy-GOBERT
http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=203497
One good game doth not a player make, just ask Exum.
t Gobert is the real deal.
He rebounded well with 5 points. He only scored five points and had one block. Not like he played well enough to be the second coming. Got to love CelticsBlog kneejerk reactions, LOL.
I think Spain shooting 2-22 from three point land hurt them more than Gobert. Heurtel and Diaw always kept them with scoring. But Spains poor three pointing shooting killed them and Gobert did step up with some boards and a key tap. But you make him sound like Wilt Chamberlain which wasn't exactly what I saw in the game.
I still think he has NBA back up written all over him.
I just read this from a couple of weeks ago, I dont think there is a knee-jerk reaction on Gobert. His stat like is 5pt 5rb 1blk in 16min in a tournament where he is probably one of the (if not the) youngest bigs getting minutes. Im not saying he is the second coming for Russell or even Mutumbo for that matter but I do think he at least hits the same level as Sanders or maybe Chandler. Not bad for a late 1st round pick..
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He had 20 rebounds the other night. Some teams are going to regrett passing him over.
Snell, karasev for example both looking like busts
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Green for gobert. Do it danny
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You kinda need Dennis Lindsey to agree to that. And there's absolutely no way he would.