Ainge Explains Why He Didn't Make A Minor Move For Rebounding..

[saltlover]

What do any of the reasons you guys are bringing up have  anything to do with throwing 2 2nd round picks for Noel? You're giving up nothing, what are you even losing at this point? You can trade for George and then resign Noel.

I do agree with some, people on this board really do make excuses for Ainge. He's a great GM, but everyone makes mistake. He clearly did, because they didn't have to give much. If they care so much about spacing, then don't play Amir Johnson and Tyler Zeller. That point right there is what you guys that are backing Ainge are missing....Noel can take those minutes and then you don't have to resign him because you didn't give anything up.

Pretty simple, Ainge messed up. If Noel turns out to be great for Dallas, I wonder what the excuse will be then.

I love Ainge by the way, and it's awesome he ignores fans. Stay the patient route, but you can also make similar trades to the IT one. Noel was a perfect example of that.

Amir is a good passer, screener, and is shooting 41% from 3 on the season.  Why should he not be played if the team cares about spacing?  He's not Horford or Olynyk, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

[mctyson]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

[GratefulCs]

i'm wondering what that H word Bo is talking about

i have a guess, and i hope it's not correct

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i trust danny because he's proven many times to be one of the best (top 5 IMO) executives in the league

he can make mistakes. he has made mistakes. most of those mistakes happened over 10 years ago


i don't even want to know what this board would look like if we had a kings-type management. i'd probably cry myself to sleep

i TOTALLY GET being critical of ainge. maybe you wanted cousins. maybe you wanted butler. maybe you want a made up superstar that doesnt exist yet.

ainge has his faults. so does every GM

but if you can't appreciate his skill as an NBA executive and see how he's pulled the Celtics out of mediocrity, then i seriously question your judgement

[BitterJim]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

[tankcity!]

What do any of the reasons you guys are bringing up have  anything to do with throwing 2 2nd round picks for Noel? You're giving up nothing, what are you even losing at this point? You can trade for George and then resign Noel.

I do agree with some, people on this board really do make excuses for Ainge. He's a great GM, but everyone makes mistake. He clearly did, because they didn't have to give much. If they care so much about spacing, then don't play Amir Johnson and Tyler Zeller. That point right there is what you guys that are backing Ainge are missing....Noel can take those minutes and then you don't have to resign him because you didn't give anything up.

Pretty simple, Ainge messed up. If Noel turns out to be great for Dallas, I wonder what the excuse will be then.

I love Ainge by the way, and it's awesome he ignores fans. Stay the patient route, but you can also make similar trades to the IT one. Noel was a perfect example of that.

Amir is a good passer, screener, and is shooting 41% from 3 on the season.  Why should he not be played if the team cares about spacing?  He's not Horford or Olynyk, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

Seriously? You think Amir spreads the floor? And Noel > Johnson. I'm shocked people would argue this. Noel was killing Amir when we played them. Do you not remember?

[tankcity!]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

This is all fine and dandy, but when Cleveland wrecks us on the boards, will you be saying the same thing? All I'm saying is be consistent. If you think we don't need someone like Noel, then we better never get a player like Noel because according to you, a player like Noel doesn't fit our system, which I scoff at. He can guard all 5 positions, but whatever.

[GratefulCs]

What do any of the reasons you guys are bringing up have  anything to do with throwing 2 2nd round picks for Noel? You're giving up nothing, what are you even losing at this point? You can trade for George and then resign Noel.

I do agree with some, people on this board really do make excuses for Ainge. He's a great GM, but everyone makes mistake. He clearly did, because they didn't have to give much. If they care so much about spacing, then don't play Amir Johnson and Tyler Zeller. That point right there is what you guys that are backing Ainge are missing....Noel can take those minutes and then you don't have to resign him because you didn't give anything up.

Pretty simple, Ainge messed up. If Noel turns out to be great for Dallas, I wonder what the excuse will be then.

I love Ainge by the way, and it's awesome he ignores fans. Stay the patient route, but you can also make similar trades to the IT one. Noel was a perfect example of that.

Amir is a good passer, screener, and is shooting 41% from 3 on the season.  Why should he not be played if the team cares about spacing?  He's not Horford or Olynyk, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

Seriously? You think Amir spreads the floor? And Noel > Johnson. I'm shocked people would argue this. Noel was killing Amir when we played them. Do you not remember?

noel at his current price would be SO GOOD for us

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noel at his price next year would be SO BAD for us

flexibility is key

[oldtype]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

This is all fine and dandy, but when Cleveland wrecks us on the boards, will you be saying the same thing? All I'm saying is be consistent. If you think we don't need someone like Noel, then we better never get a player like Noel because according to you, a player like Noel doesn't fit our system, which I scoff at. He can guard all 5 positions, but whatever.

It's not the reason we didn't trade for him (that had more to do with salary flexibility), but Noel is a relatively poor rebounder. Just FYI.

[tankcity!]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

This is all fine and dandy, but when Cleveland wrecks us on the boards, will you be saying the same thing? All I'm saying is be consistent. If you think we don't need someone like Noel, then we better never get a player like Noel because according to you, a player like Noel doesn't fit our system, which I scoff at. He can guard all 5 positions, but whatever.

It's not the reason we didn't trade for him (that had more to do with salary flexibility), but Noel is a very poor rebounder. Just FYI.

Moranis ran a stat on this already, he's actually average. Also, you don't have to resign him. And you can trade for George and then resign him...Plenty of flexibility.

[saltlover]

What do any of the reasons you guys are bringing up have  anything to do with throwing 2 2nd round picks for Noel? You're giving up nothing, what are you even losing at this point? You can trade for George and then resign Noel.

I do agree with some, people on this board really do make excuses for Ainge. He's a great GM, but everyone makes mistake. He clearly did, because they didn't have to give much. If they care so much about spacing, then don't play Amir Johnson and Tyler Zeller. That point right there is what you guys that are backing Ainge are missing....Noel can take those minutes and then you don't have to resign him because you didn't give anything up.

Pretty simple, Ainge messed up. If Noel turns out to be great for Dallas, I wonder what the excuse will be then.

I love Ainge by the way, and it's awesome he ignores fans. Stay the patient route, but you can also make similar trades to the IT one. Noel was a perfect example of that.

Amir is a good passer, screener, and is shooting 41% from 3 on the season.  Why should he not be played if the team cares about spacing?  He's not Horford or Olynyk, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

Seriously? You think Amir spreads the floor? And Noel > Johnson. I'm shocked people would argue this. Noel was killing Amir when we played them. Do you not remember?

Yes, he spreads the floor.  I don't really think that's up for debate.

[tankcity!]

What's going to be the excuse when Zizic is playing next year and he can't spread the floor, nor pass?

[tankcity!]

What do any of the reasons you guys are bringing up have  anything to do with throwing 2 2nd round picks for Noel? You're giving up nothing, what are you even losing at this point? You can trade for George and then resign Noel.

I do agree with some, people on this board really do make excuses for Ainge. He's a great GM, but everyone makes mistake. He clearly did, because they didn't have to give much. If they care so much about spacing, then don't play Amir Johnson and Tyler Zeller. That point right there is what you guys that are backing Ainge are missing....Noel can take those minutes and then you don't have to resign him because you didn't give anything up.

Pretty simple, Ainge messed up. If Noel turns out to be great for Dallas, I wonder what the excuse will be then.

I love Ainge by the way, and it's awesome he ignores fans. Stay the patient route, but you can also make similar trades to the IT one. Noel was a perfect example of that.

Amir is a good passer, screener, and is shooting 41% from 3 on the season.  Why should he not be played if the team cares about spacing?  He's not Horford or Olynyk, but I'm not sure what you're saying.

Seriously? You think Amir spreads the floor? And Noel > Johnson. I'm shocked people would argue this. Noel was killing Amir when we played them. Do you not remember?

Yes, he spreads the floor.  I don't really think that's up for debate.

I disagree, he shoots less than one three in a game. He's always wide open for 3 too...Nobody guards him out on the perimeter. Watch tonights game and you'll see what I mean. He most scores on rolls and put backs....

[oldtype]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

This is all fine and dandy, but when Cleveland wrecks us on the boards, will you be saying the same thing? All I'm saying is be consistent. If you think we don't need someone like Noel, then we better never get a player like Noel because according to you, a player like Noel doesn't fit our system, which I scoff at. He can guard all 5 positions, but whatever.

It's not the reason we didn't trade for him (that had more to do with salary flexibility), but Noel is a very poor rebounder. Just FYI.

Moranis ran a stat on this already, he's actually average. Also, you don't have to resign him. And you can trade for George and then resign him...Plenty of flexibility.

Just saying, he's not the person who's going to come fix our defending rebounding woes. (Kelly Olynyk actually has a higher DRB%.)

The issue is that he takes us out of the FA market. We would have to renounce his rights before we could sign an FA, at which point we would not be able to resign him without cap space.

[GratefulCs]

Danny's right about roster construction - it isn't worth putting a rebounding specialist on the floor who just makes you suck in halfcourt.

It's not only that but the fact that anyone who would meaningfully make them a better rebounding team would have to be a top-7 rotation guy, who would take minutes away from better all-around players, and ultimately make the team worse.

I think he's wrong that the C's aren't a good rebounding team because of the way they play offense. They are the second worst team in DRB%.

He also said 'style of play' in this context by which he means 'we play small.'

I would add in that looking for fast breaks often plays a role as well

This is all fine and dandy, but when Cleveland wrecks us on the boards, will you be saying the same thing? All I'm saying is be consistent. If you think we don't need someone like Noel, then we better never get a player like Noel because according to you, a player like Noel doesn't fit our system, which I scoff at. He can guard all 5 positions, but whatever.

It's not the reason we didn't trade for him (that had more to do with salary flexibility), but Noel is a very poor rebounder. Just FYI.

Moranis ran a stat on this already, he's actually average. Also, you don't have to resign him. And you can trade for George and then resign him...Plenty of flexibility.

to trade for him and not sign him doesnt make any sense

ainge has made it clear that he doesn't prefer to make these minor trades to waste assets for a rental. unless it could actually put us over the top

i tend to agree with this school of thought, but i ABSOLUTELY understand the fans who are frustrated by this

[liam]

What's going to be the excuse when Zizic is playing next year and he can't spread the floor, nor pass?

Why does anyone need an excuse we are 2nd in the EAST and may have the 1st pick in the upcoming draft!