« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2019, 11:30:02 AM »
Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.
We need Baynes to win a championship.
YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!
signed,
6' 1" isiah thomas
6' 2" vinnie johnson,
kyrie and on and on and on
Check the list of MVPs for the finals. There are very, very few small guards.
Small guards don't win championships.
http://www.espn.com/nba/history/awards/_/id/43
From Magic's last appearance until Parker's last 2 there was something like only 5 seasons in which either PG on the two Finals teams was an all star in that season. I'm going off of memory, but it is something like Payton, Stockton, Kidd twice, Parker (the 07 team), and maybe another season. Obviously Curry and to a lesser extent Irving and Parker have skewed that a bit more recently, but there was nearly a decade between Kidd's final appearance and the Spurs rebirth in which Parker's 1 season was the only all star appearance by either PG on the last 2 teams standing. And the thing about Parker and Irving is they were clearly not their team's best player. Frankly, in the history of the game only Curry, Thomas, and Magic have been the best player on a title team as a PG. If you just go 6'5" or bigger you eliminate all the Magic titles and probably add in Dennis Johnson, but that is it.
And I don't really think that is going to change. The Warriors are a weird basically not duplicable situation and frankly for the last 2 titles Durant has been their best player (though Curry is arguably their most important player). So in basically the history of the league there have been 4 title teams where the best player on the winner was under 6'5" the 79 Sonics, the 89 and 90 Pistons, and the 14 Warriors.
2006 Heat with Dwayne Wade
2004 Billups was prly the best player
and 2007 Parker is close to best at that time duncan 1a Parker 1b....no parker prly no championship
Shaq was the Heat's best player and was inarguably their most important player if you want to argue about best (much like Curry is inarguably the Warriors most important player even if you think Durant is better). Billups was probably the 4th best player on that team (Ben was easily their best player with Hamilton and Sheed at 2 and 3 imo), though Billups did have a coming out party in the Finals that really sent his career on a different path and overall elevated him into that next tier, but that title season he wasn't anywhere near the player he ultimately ended up becoming. In 2007, Parker was no where near the player of Duncan. That was still very much Duncan's prime and heck Manu in less games actually had more win shares than Parker. Manu also had the better PER, VORP, BPM, ORTG, DRTG, etc., so there is a real argument Parker was the 3rd best player on that team. Either way he was no where near Duncan.
You seem to not know what the word "unarguably" means.
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