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Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2023, 09:18:54 AM »

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 Running out a lineup of PP, Jaylen, Hauser , Horford, Kornet should never happen. I was really surprised to see Kornet play. That concerns me. Trying to win a title. I don’t want to rely on him whatsoever.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2023, 09:33:41 AM »

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Brown is just not a smart player.  In one 15-second window he forces an interior pass between three Knicks that is easily stolen.

The Knicks then score on a semi-fast break.

Then Jaylen is too anxious with inbounding the ball and throws it at Tatum's back while he was running down the court.  Knicks' steal. 

They pass it to the corner and JB fouls a guy who took/made a three-pointer. 

When they had to sub someone out for Jrue in the last minute, and it couldn't be Pritchard who was shooting the FTs, they took out Brown.  That was the smartest coaching call of the game.  While Brown's defense would have been fine there, he would have been a liability trying to get the inbound and/or shooting FTs.

After an entire offseason of him being labeled as loose with the ball, that was a horrible sequence. 

Yes, he only had two turnovers all game (JT had five), but those were really bad turnovers in a crucial moment.

We need White/Jrue handling the ball more in crunch time.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2023, 09:56:05 AM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2023, 10:00:43 AM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Also, Hauser carries his own water defensively whereas Svi will never be a good defender.  I just don't have this high opinion of Svi that other people here do.  The offense is pretty nice but there are two sides of a basketball court.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2023, 10:05:07 AM »

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JB’s decision making was maddening but he still had a pretty good game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s our best performer next game. I think he’s trying to do too much to prove that he’s at par with JT. Hopefully he settles down and allows the game to come to him and not force things.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2023, 10:33:26 AM »

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Brown's decision making is just head scratching. The 4th quarter turnovers are still his issue.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2023, 10:37:48 AM »

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Brown's decision making is just head scratching. The 4th quarter turnovers are still his issue.

its almost like he watched tatum/KP get going and thought "I need to get mine too!"

he needs to let the game come to him. there will be games he is going and tatum/KP are not.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2023, 10:48:18 AM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Also, Hauser carries his own water defensively whereas Svi will never be a good defender.  I just don't have this high opinion of Svi that other people here do.  The offense is pretty nice but there are two sides of a basketball court.
Agree 100%

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2023, 11:22:31 AM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Also, Hauser carries his own water defensively whereas Svi will never be a good defender.  I just don't have this high opinion of Svi that other people here do.  The offense is pretty nice but there are two sides of a basketball court.
Agree 100%

I'm glad people are starting to appreciate Hauser's defense and hustle.  Hauser was trained on defense by Tony Bennett at UVa for two years.  You don't get playing time at UVa if you don't play defense.

There's a reason they've had guys like Ty Jerome, Kyle Guy, Malcolm Brogdon, Joe Harris, Mike Scott, etc on NBA rosters. 

Now they've got Braxton Key and Jay Huff on the Nuggets roster.  Anthony Gill on the Wizards.  Three guys who in all honesty probably shouldn't be on NBA rosters, but they are just so fundamentally sound defensively that they've carved out a niche.

Hauser is the same way.  So many people just see "dopey white guy" and assume he can't man up.  They train lateral quickness at UVa like it's a lifestyle. 

You can't stay between your man and the basket, you don't put hands up to block eyelines, you don't box out on rebounds, you sit your tail down on the bench next to Tony.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2023, 11:24:54 AM »

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Honestly outside of one really bad stretch in the fourth i thought Brown played just fine. Led the team in assists, potential assists, was second on the team at +8, had some good high difficulty engaged rebounds, and looking at the match up stats he played pretty good defense. He didn't score much, but he also only took 11 shots. That would have been his third fewest shots last year. It was a fine "glue guy" sort of game.

It feels worse than it was because his three worst plays came in like one minute of the game. Not a great game by any means, but I'll take a 5:2 A:TO ratio from brown with this teams offense.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2023, 11:30:30 AM by keevsnick »

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2023, 11:35:21 AM »

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Honestly outside of one really bad stretch in the fourth i thought Brown played just fine. Led the team in assists, potential assists, was second on the team at +8, had some good high difficulty engaged rebounds, and looking at the match up stats he played pretty good defense. He didn't score much, but he also only took 11 shots. That would have been his third fewest shots last year. It was a fine "glue guy" sort of game.

It feels worse than it was because his three worst plays came in like one minute of the game. Not a great game by any means, but I'll take a 5:2 A:TO ratio from brown with this teams offense.

I think too, there are going to be games where 2 of the guys go off and the others are going to put up pedestrian numbers.

just the nature of having 4 guys who can give you 20ppg. Tatum may be the one constant with how he's really perfected attacking the paint

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2023, 11:50:57 AM »

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Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2023, 01:20:43 PM »

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Really enthusiastic about this team with Porzingis and Holliday. I know it's only 1 game, but I am a little worried about our bench. Hauser and Pritchard did next to nothing yesterday. Other than Horford, we got next to nothing from the bench.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2023, 01:28:11 PM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Also, Hauser carries his own water defensively whereas Svi will never be a good defender.  I just don't have this high opinion of Svi that other people here do.  The offense is pretty nice but there are two sides of a basketball court.

Hauser is not a better defender than Brissett or Stevens, maybe not better than Walsh either.  I grant you he is a better defender than Mykhailiuk, at least based on what I have seen so far.  Hauser's main skill is hitting 3s, he is a specialist with a valuable NBA skill.  If he isn't hitting 3s, then he is a fringe NBA player.  Brissett and Stevens are better defenders, better rebounders, better get out and run guys, better slashers, better just about everything but 3 pt shooting.

If the team has made the determination that Hauser is better than these other guys, than I agree that they should not just pull him from a game because he goes 0 for 4 from 3.  But if he goes 5 games and is still shooting 30% or whatever, these other guys should be put out there.  I am not sure Hauser is any better than Brissett or Stevens in any case.

Re: Overreactions after one game
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2023, 02:18:12 PM »

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I know it's only game 1, but I hope we aren't seeing last year Joe where he only plays 7-8 guys during the season and over uses the starters. When Houser wasn't hitting, he could have tried Svi out there. Just my opinion.
I don’t agree about Hauser.  I mean, yeah, he does need to start hitting shots or he should be replaced.  But you have to give the guy chances to do that rather than pull the rug out from under him game to game.

Also, Hauser carries his own water defensively whereas Svi will never be a good defender.  I just don't have this high opinion of Svi that other people here do.  The offense is pretty nice but there are two sides of a basketball court.

Hauser is not a better defender than Brissett or Stevens, maybe not better than Walsh either.  I grant you he is a better defender than Mykhailiuk, at least based on what I have seen so far.  Hauser's main skill is hitting 3s, he is a specialist with a valuable NBA skill.  If he isn't hitting 3s, then he is a fringe NBA player.  Brissett and Stevens are better defenders, better rebounders, better get out and run guys, better slashers, better just about everything but 3 pt shooting.

If the team has made the determination that Hauser is better than these other guys, than I agree that they should not just pull him from a game because he goes 0 for 4 from 3.  But if he goes 5 games and is still shooting 30% or whatever, these other guys should be put out there.  I am not sure Hauser is any better than Brissett or Stevens in any case.

The man has shot 40% or better from three every single year of his basketball career dating back to high school.  He probably shot 40% on a Nerf hoop as a 9-year-old.  Bet on him losing that touch if you want. 

Or maybe it makes more sense to acknowledge that three-point specialists are subject to significant variance from night to night and should be afforded some patience.