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Quote from: SparzWizard on May 13, 2022, 11:31:17 PMIs Game 1 of the East Finals going to be Tuesday? Celtics/Bucks going to look very exhausted coming out of this series.Yeah I read it on the Miami Heat Reddit Page Don’t know specific time but Game 1 of Boston/Milwaukee @ Miami is Tuesday night.
Is Game 1 of the East Finals going to be Tuesday? Celtics/Bucks going to look very exhausted coming out of this series.
Quote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.
Quote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatable
Quote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).
Quote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.
Quote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit?
Quote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be.
Quote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.
Ben Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonight
Quote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).
Quote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun.
Quote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 11:55:30 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun. I completely disagree at this point in their careers. What an utterly bizarre thing to say as Jarren Jackson is currently destroying the warriors and simmons is in a hospital somewhere.
Quote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:58:12 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 11:55:30 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun. I completely disagree at this point in their careers. What an utterly bizarre thing to say as Jarren Jackson is currently destroying the warriors and simmons is in a hospital somewhere.Ben Simmons has the potential to be better than Jaren Jackson ever could be.Ben Simmons currently is a near-washout whose value is in the toilet and who contributes nothing but the promise of what he could be.It's a no-brainer.
Quote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:58:12 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 11:55:30 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun. I completely disagree at this point in their careers. What an utterly bizarre thing to say as Jarren Jackson is currently destroying the warriors and simmons is in a hospital somewhere.Then change it to was better than Jackson is now. If Simmons returns to where he was before the mental flake out and back injury, he's better than Jackson. How is Jackson's 5-16 shooting destroying the Warriors?
Quote from: RJD1974 on May 14, 2022, 12:02:21 AMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:58:12 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 11:55:30 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun. I completely disagree at this point in their careers. What an utterly bizarre thing to say as Jarren Jackson is currently destroying the warriors and simmons is in a hospital somewhere.Ben Simmons has the potential to be better than Jaren Jackson ever could be.Ben Simmons currently is a near-washout whose value is in the toilet and who contributes nothing but the promise of what he could be.It's a no-brainer.Jackson is literally currently having a better playoff run than simmons ever has. And he is 22 years old! Simmons won’t take a 3 pointer. Jackson has hit 16. This series. And he is 22 years old! Simmons isn’t mentally prepared to play basketball. After a year off. After he would not dunk on trae young. Jarren Jackson is 22 years old. https://youtu.be/xZr2qOXQJ4w
Quote from: celticsclay on May 14, 2022, 12:08:57 AMQuote from: RJD1974 on May 14, 2022, 12:02:21 AMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:58:12 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 11:55:30 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 11:49:20 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:45:15 PMQuote from: pokeKingCurtis on May 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PMQuote from: celticsclay on May 13, 2022, 10:34:03 PMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 13, 2022, 10:29:02 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on May 13, 2022, 01:39:05 PMQuote from: Kernewek on May 13, 2022, 04:18:47 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 12, 2022, 09:55:36 PMBen Simmons and James Harden had the same number of points in the 2nd half tonightAlmost took the same number of shots, too.very impressed with the end results of The Process as the 76ers have gone from a team that checks notes annually gets bounced in the second round to a team that… annually gets bounced in the second round.The Process ended when Hinkie was fired 3 years into it after their owner caved to pressure from Silver and brought in old man Colangelo. Nothing since then has been the process. It is true the Sixers keep getting bounced in the 2nd round but they are winning more and are more relevant since the mid 80s. 3 of last 5 seasons of 50+ wins. Would have been 4 of 5 and possibly all 5 if not for shortened seasons. The best news for the Sixers is they've got Embiid signed long-term and he seems happy there and Maxey looks like he could become the 2nd young star that they wanted Simmons to be. Yeah never understood why the league forced Hinkie out, which led to Colangelo who was an absolute disaster lol. But man, PHI was LUCKY to get Embiid and that Embiid panned out despite the injury history, because otherwise their Draft picks over the last 7-8 years really haven't been great. A ton of misses and a few brutal ones (Simmons, Fultz, etc.)Like literally imagine where PHI would even be if Embiid didn't work out and everything else panned the way it did. Would PHI be tanking again for a bit? This was one of my main points I was raising. The draft picks were pretty brutal (and to be fair a lot of the ones from hinkie ranged from franchise altering bust (okafor) to mild disappointment (noel) to meh (saric). Before it got derailed on a bunch of inaccurate stuff on woods, ish smith and holmes, that’s really the biggest problem. The draft picks both under hinkie and after were quite poor.I mean the whole point of "The Process" is so you get multiple rolls of the dieThey got 2 legit stars, Simmons and Embiid. I would have liked to see what the next step in Hinkie's plan was (maybe there wasn't any next step).I’m sorry simmons is, checks notes, a “legit star?” Is that why it costs two rotation players, two first round picks and simmons for a washed up harden? I wouldn’t trade Marcus smart for simmons at this point. He is probably the third worst number one pick of the last 15 years ahead of only bennett and ironically fultz. You could argue wiggins but given he was an all star this year and it is unclear if simmons even wants to play basketball right now that is very debatableFor all his faults, Simmons was a 2 time all star on the rise.That's why I would have liked to see where Hinkie's plan went. Does he keep coddling Ben Simmons? I think Jimmy Butler was brought in after Hinkie - and he's famously a tough dude to be around, having pitted the Bulls players against each other. They had Brett Brown who wasn't great but he coached a 6ers team led by Embiid/Simmons to a couple decent playoff runs. Then Doc comes in and Simmons is sent into a spiral, flip flopping about his lack of a jump shot (initially saying it's ok he doesn't have one, and later saying he's got to hit some free throws). Then proceeds to throw him under the bus after that Hawks game. I kind of blame Doc for this. History keeps repeating itself with Doc - he had CP3/Blake for so many years and they seem to hit this wall (and seemingly a mental one at that). Hit a wall with Kawhii too.I hate that I'm talking like Stephen A Smith, speculating heavily on many things, but I guess that's just what the NBA is sometimes. A bunch of 6'10 men being melodramatic.I would argue that simmons probably shouldn’t have made two all star games and was pushed over the edge as a fringe candidate cause of his draft status and hype. At this point not having playing in over a year and having back surgery after not playing all year, it’s pretty hard to call him a star (and I don’t think the nets are counting on that either).Simmons is clearly better than Jaren Jackson who you labeled a homerun. I completely disagree at this point in their careers. What an utterly bizarre thing to say as Jarren Jackson is currently destroying the warriors and simmons is in a hospital somewhere.Ben Simmons has the potential to be better than Jaren Jackson ever could be.Ben Simmons currently is a near-washout whose value is in the toilet and who contributes nothing but the promise of what he could be.It's a no-brainer.Jackson is literally currently having a better playoff run than simmons ever has. And he is 22 years old! Simmons won’t take a 3 pointer. Jackson has hit 16. This series. And he is 22 years old! Simmons isn’t mentally prepared to play basketball. After a year off. After he would not dunk on trae young. Jarren Jackson is 22 years old. https://youtu.be/xZr2qOXQJ4wIn case it wasn't clear, I was agreeing with you.Simmons has more potential Jackson in the same vein that Lloyd Daniels had more potential than Gary Payton.