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Beyond the Association => Other Basketball => Topic started by: Eja117 on August 31, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20520784/high-school-junior-lamelo-ball-now-signature-shoe-395
Is Lavar Ball the worst sports father of all time? Pro sports I mean.
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I see nothing wrong with this. The kid is selling a shoe (with the help of family) and first time a high schooler has his own brand and merchandise. The ball family is taking a risk and will reap large rewards if it all pans out. That's the essence of capitalism and freedom in America to start your own business venture
He clearly doesn't care about eligibility as ball is highly ranked and will be sought after regardless if he plays. The nba age limit will probably be lowered by then to 18
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Last I checked the eligibility is more likely to go up than down. It means the kid will be forced to play a year in China or some such place. The kid is also nowhere near as good as Lonzo was. He could have probably used several years of development in basketball and life with a fine coach but that's all done now.
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Last I checked the eligibility is more likely to go up than down. It means the kid will be forced to play a year in China or some such place. The kid is also nowhere near as good as Lonzo was. He could have probably used several years of development in basketball and life with a fine coach but that's all done now.
the nba players union wants to lower the age limit. He wont be forced to play in China. There's no rule saying you have to be playing somewhere
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Stage dad's aren't anything knew, he's just taking it to the reality tv era extreme. I think his sons can be just fine if they take care of themselves and their career.
Plenty of overinvolved and bad parents in all of sports, sad reality of the amount of fame/money it can bring.
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I see nothing wrong with this. The kid is selling a shoe (with the help of family) and first time a high schooler has his own brand and merchandise. The ball family is taking a risk and will reap large rewards if it all pans out. That's the essence of capitalism and freedom in America to start your own business venture
He clearly doesn't care about eligibility as ball is highly ranked and will be sought after regardless if he plays. The nba age limit will probably be lowered by then to 18
What if the 16 year old kid doesn't want to be a part of this risk and wants to go to college? How much say does he really have in the matter?
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I see nothing wrong with this. The kid is selling a shoe (with the help of family) and first time a high schooler has his own brand and merchandise. The ball family is taking a risk and will reap large rewards if it all pans out. That's the essence of capitalism and freedom in America to start your own business venture
He clearly doesn't care about eligibility as ball is highly ranked and will be sought after regardless if he plays. The nba age limit will probably be lowered by then to 18
What if the 16 year old kid doesn't want to be a part of this risk and wants to go to college? How much say does he really have in the matter?
He wants to. You've clearly never seen videos of lamelo ball and his personality
This is like saying a kid doesn't want to start a lemonade stand and sell lemonade. So you have a problem with that too? What's the difference
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Does this kid want to play in the NBA? Is that likely to be his career path? Is this helping or hurting his career path?
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LaMelo, the youngest, for his 16th birthday just got a Lamborghini. Good car for a kid to drive to school.
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only ...d great
Obi wan kenobi
can save dem chill n froms
Darth Baller and the Laker Death Star
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LaMelo, the youngest, for his 16th birthday just got a Lamborghini. Good car for a kid to drive to school.
Great parenting right there.
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only ...d great
Obi wan kenobi
can save dem chill n froms
Darth Baller and the Laker Death Star
please translate
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I'm reporting this thread to the mods, it should be renamed to "can the Ball father save his children", dude was unlucky to not play in the NBA and GOAT the league, now he's sending his sons to do it for him :laugh:.
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Hes a loud obnoxious Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. but by all accounts a great father.
Hes sending 3 boys to UCLA and one of his children is a millionaire at age 22. Lonzo is also by all accounts a very humble and likeable kid.
Hate the dad all you want, but dont say the kids need to be saved from him. Hes a great father.
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Hes a loud obnoxious **** but by all accounts a great father.
Hes sending 3 boys to UCLA and one of his children is a millionaire at age 22. Lonzo is also by all accounts a very humble and likeable kid.
Hate the dad all you want, but dont say the kids need to be saved from him. Hes a great father.
This.
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Hes a loud obnoxious **** but by all accounts a great father.
Hes sending 3 boys to UCLA and one of his children is a millionaire at age 22. Lonzo is also by all accounts a very humble and likeable kid.
Hate the dad all you want, but dont say the kids need to be saved from him. Hes a great father.
Well one of them certainly won't be going to UCLA now
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You guys sure know how to demonize and slight everything someone does once you decide you don't like them.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horrible ;)
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
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Lavar Ball reminds me SO MUCH of folks I talk to / listen to at the Barbershop over the years.
Harmless, intelligent, boisterous at times and FUNNY.
I've read enough of Lavar to know that while his methods seem a bit unorthodox at times he loves his family and is protective of them.
Not worried about Lavar at all. BUT I am concerned about Lonzo - we're going to have our hands FULL with him for the next 10-15 years.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
His children are thriving.
Maybe we should ask our own Jaylen what he thinks about
pressure. 😉
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horrible ;)
In between exploiting them
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I have exclusive video of LaVar Ball showing up to pick up his kid from UCLA and some Celtics Bloggers reactions to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEZE3mFrzw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEZE3mFrzw)
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
His children are thriving.
Maybe we should ask our own Jaylen what he thinks about
pressure. 😉
In what world are the Ball children thriving?
Lonzo is looking awful, LiAngelo had the whole China thievery scandal, and LaMelo might not even go to college lol.
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Who do the Lakers lose to next?
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Lithuanian teams are trolling the Balls now.
"Among the overseas professional clubs that a representative for the Ball family approached about signing 19-year-old LiAngelo and his 16-year-old brother LaMelo is Lietkabelis of the Lithuanian Basketball League, general manager Mantas Ignatavičius confirmed Tuesday to Yahoo Sports. Lietkabelis coach Arturs Stalbergs subsequently scoffed at the idea in a since-deleted tweet that poked fun at LiAngelo’s shoplifting arrest in China last month.
“We have an opening at the security staff since they have an experience in this field,” Stalbergs wrote."
He's suuuuuccchhh a good faaathhheerr
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Lithuanian teams are trolling the Balls now.
"Among the overseas professional clubs that a representative for the Ball family approached about signing 19-year-old LiAngelo and his 16-year-old brother LaMelo is Lietkabelis of the Lithuanian Basketball League, general manager Mantas Ignatavičius confirmed Tuesday to Yahoo Sports. Lietkabelis coach Arturs Stalbergs subsequently scoffed at the idea in a since-deleted tweet that poked fun at LiAngelo’s shoplifting arrest in China last month.
“We have an opening at the security staff since they have an experience in this field,” Stalbergs wrote."
He's suuuuuccchhh a good faaathhheerr
ouch!!!!! ;D
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horrible ;)
He is ruining their lives in ways and making their lives about him. Not to be applauded at all. Being controlling and running your children's lives (mostly to their detriment so far) as they become men is not commendable or good parenting.
Just because one has gotten to the NBA doesn't make him anything of a good parent. LeBron's dad must be a great guy if that's the case.
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a mild update....neither of the "L"s are walking through UCLA's door. no "jelo ball" for UCLA!!
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-la...s-play-professionally-overseas-030107550.html
LaMelo and LiAngelo Ball have started to explore options to sign internationally, sources told Yahoo Sports.
LiAngelo Ball and UCLA parted ways officially on Monday, which marked the start of his preparation for his professional basketball career. Harrison Gaines, the representative for LaMelo, 16, and LiAngelo, 19, started initial contact with overseas teams this week, sources told Yahoo Sports.
For LaMelo and LiAngelo, the decision to turn pro means the end of their prospective collegiate careers. LaMelo Ball had previously committed to UCLA.
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well, things are peachy in LA it seems.
LaVar Ball said his oldest son, Los Angeles Lakers rookie point guard Lonzo Ball, is "disgusted" with how the team has been playing. And the outspoken father blamed the Lakers' recent struggles on how the coaching staff has been utilizing his son.
"The Lakers should build around Lonzo," LaVar Ball said. "Why are they sitting him down and not starting him the fourth quarter? This is why the record is raggedy."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...f-not-using-lonzo-ball-effectively/926297001/
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Lonzo is looking awful, LiAngelo had the whole China thievery scandal, and LaMelo might not even go to college lol.
Or high school, right? I mean, he is currently being homeschooled and it doesn't look like he is heading back to Chino Hills any time soon.
It will be interesting to see what team the Ball brothers go play for and how much of a travel bill Lavar racks up going back and forth between Europe/Japan/wherever and LA. It would have been a lot easier if those kids just went to UCLA.
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Lonzo is looking awful, LiAngelo had the whole China thievery scandal, and LaMelo might not even go to college lol.
Or high school, right? I mean, he is currently being homeschooled and it doesn't look like he is heading back to Chino Hills any time soon.
It will be interesting to see what team the Ball brothers go play for and how much of a travel bill Lavar racks up going back and forth between Europe/Japan/wherever and LA. It would have been a lot easier if those kids just went to UCLA.
The thing that doesn’t get talked about much is that the Balls’ mom/Lavar’s wife had a stroke earlier this year. Five months later she still barely able to talk, don’t know how she’s doing at this point — I wonder what impact that has had on some of their behavior recently. I don’t know, maybe she was just as crazy as the rest of them, but it’s possble that family lost it’s moderating voice.
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LaVar is playing the long game. He's crazy like a Kardashian or a Paris Hilton. Eight years from now, his kids may or may not be in the NBA, but he's going to be lighting it up on reality shows while the rest of us sit around thinking, "Hmm, can you remind me how he became famous?"
Mike
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Do they want to be saved? Am I the only one who thinks that their father is a smart guy who knows their limitations and creates all the noise to help their stock???????? He knows that his first son cannot shoot his second is not for the nba and the third is for streetball not the league.... magic will regret his choice soon
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And one more thing ... if ainge thought ball was good he would pick him and trade him... he did not pick I'm because there was a possibility to stuck with him
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I don't think any of us are in position to evaluate him as a father. We have no idea, and it's sily to judge a person's parenting ability based on whether his kids play bball for UCLA.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
LaVar has raised his kids the right way and has been in their lives. He's trolling the whole world reality TV style and you all are eating it up. Whenever he talks about beating Jordan, he's CLEARLY TROLLING...he's laughing, he's talking smack to get attention. This is nothing new, he's capitalizing off of it and I salute him for it. He's hurting no one.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
LaVar has raised his kids the right way and has been in their lives. He's trolling the whole world reality TV style and you all are eating it up. Whenever he talks about beating Jordan, he's CLEARLY TROLLING...he's laughing, he's talking smack to get attention. This is nothing new, he's capitalizing off of it and I salute him for it. He's hurting no one.
Why salute ? Just to make few millions on his sons back? His son is going to make money without his dad’s help.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
LaVar has raised his kids the right way and has been in their lives. He's trolling the whole world reality TV style and you all are eating it up. Whenever he talks about beating Jordan, he's CLEARLY TROLLING...he's laughing, he's talking smack to get attention. This is nothing new, he's capitalizing off of it and I salute him for it. He's hurting no one.
Why salute ? Just to make few millions on his sons back? His son is going to make money without his dad’s help.
He raised the kid...he's entitled to whatever is coming to him. He put food in his stomach and trained him.
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yeah he's a good father and he raised good kids and he's proud of them and boasts about it how horribl
I think he is much worse than you suggest, that is a sugar coating if I have ever seen it. Yes, he promotes his children but he also puts a ton of pressure on them, too. Good or bad he is kind of entertaining.
He seems to be a pretty admirable dad from everything I've seen.
And he could have beat Jordan in his prime, don't forget that JK
https://youtu.be/os2Iz8I50IA
LaVar has raised his kids the right way and has been in their lives. He's trolling the whole world reality TV style and you all are eating it up. Whenever he talks about beating Jordan, he's CLEARLY TROLLING...he's laughing, he's talking smack to get attention. This is nothing new, he's capitalizing off of it and I salute him for it. He's hurting no one.
He's hurting no one? He just pulled his kids out of a world class university, that realistically should never have been there in the first place. And now he can't get them a gig on a 2nd rate Lithuanian team. Seriously. Panevyzs Lithuania. Ever been there? Population 94K. 5th biggest city in Lithuania. It's smaller than the 307th biggest city in America.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kareem-abdul-jabbar-rips-lavar-ball’s-‘misguided-parenting’-‘it’s-all-about-him’/ar-BBGbspT?ocid=ob-fb-enus-894
Listen to Kareem!
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It looks like the Ball Boys will be playing in front of less than 1,700 people in a small town in Lithuania...
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21741604/liangelo-lamelo-ball-serious-talks-lithuanian-basketball-club
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Ok. Let's see what eja can immediately tell you about this.
Vytautas.....Grand Duke...basically the father of Lithuania. The team is named after Lietuva's George Washington character. Defended the country from the Teutonic knights (basically of Germany/Prussia). I think may have Christianized that country.
Lietuva (as they call themselves). Size of West Virginia and Rhode Island combined.
The language....one of the oldest unchanged languages in the world. Not slavic. Not romance. Baltic. Totally learnable if you put in the effort, but it will throw you off.
Cooking there is basically a thousand ways to make a potato. The winters are pretty harsh leading to a love of fresh foods/vegetables. Almost no American chains whatsoever, and almost certainly not in the town they are in.
Women.....some of the most gorgeous in the world. Way more so than LA. Very charming. Then you marry them and they take over.
Alcohol. They need to start working on their tolerance asap. Due to the climate it's a beer/vodka place.
Culture....with the possible exception of American basketball players it is well within the realm of possibility every Lithuanian in that town has never seen a black person in their entire lives.
Basically LaVarr has managed to steer his boys to a team worse than any D League team and any team in D1. I mean maaayybbbee a bad team in whatever division Farleigh Dickinson is in could maybe be worse than this team. Maybe.
Ok. They'll be in the town of Birstonas. Nice place to live really. Not far from Lietuva's 2nd biggest city Kaunas, well known as the most Lithuanian of Lithuanian cities as their capital Vilnius was quite Polishized at one point. Kaunus is a huge university town, so assuming the boys learn their Lithuanian (Taip! Ira ka ira!) they could go shopping there and enjoy a nice time. The two pizza places I recommend are Cili pica and Charlie Pizza (named after Charlie Chaplin ...I kid you not). I recommend the ham and hollandaise sauce pizza and the Utenos beer. Some of the younger crowd in this town will speak some English.
I am certain the value of their UCLA scholarships exceeded (possibly by quite a bit) the value of their new Lithuanian minor league contracts.
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I originally skipped this topic as anything to do w/ ball the dad makes me want to puke. Just was on espn and read both younger boys are going to be sight seeing in the baltics.
Wow. It's bad enough neither boy would have their own opinion on where they want to play, add in another brother who should have an opinion now that he's been in nba for a bit.
Funny line is dad saying all three boys will play for lakers. Think magic wants all 3?
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Ca you imagine if a guy had a kid playing quarterback at Notre Dame and a 16 year old pledged to Notre Dame...and then one day the father comes in and says "Oh no....you're not going to Notre Dame to play quarterback. You're not getting a diploma from them. You're not even getting a high school diploma. Your brother was just arrested in China and as a result you're going to play for the Dinos of the Mexican pro league Liga de Futbol Americano Profesional in Saltilo in the state of Coahuila. You'll play for almost nothing in front of 7000 fans. Your coach will be Carlos Cabral."
That is what LaVar Ball has done to his kids. He has single handedly destroyed their careers.
Both of those boys should have run at warp speed to UCLA, begged forgiveness, and said "I'll do whatever you want. Please help me become an emancipated minor. Please please please. The man is insane. I am begging you Obi Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."
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Ca you imagine if a guy had a kid playing quarterback at Notre Dame and a 16 year old pledged to Notre Dame...and then one day the father comes in and says "Oh no....you're not going to Notre Dame to play quarterback. You're not getting a diploma from them. You're not even getting a high school diploma. Your brother was just arrested in China and as a result you're going to play for the Dinos of the Mexican pro league Liga de Futbol Americano Profesional in Saltilo in the state of Coahuila. You'll play for almost nothing in front of 7000 fans. Your coach will be Carlos Cabral."
That is what LaVar Ball has done to his kids. He has single handedly destroyed their careers.
Both of those boys should have run at warp speed to UCLA, begged forgiveness, and said "I'll do whatever you want. Please help me become an emancipated minor. Please please please. The man is insane. I am begging you Obi Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."
I was with you, then it got crazy, then I was with you again, then it got even crazier.
Thanks for that rollercoaster ride!
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https://sports.yahoo.com/lavar-balls-lithuania-experiment-reportedly-ended-boredom-sadness-154731824.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/lavar-balls-lithuania-experiment-reportedly-ended-boredom-sadness-154731824.html)
This is becoming extremely painful to watch.