Who should we get with the MLE?

[Celtics2021]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE.  Who should we go after?  Kelly Oubre? Christian Wood?  Dario Saric?

My dark horse name is Derrick Jones Jr.  He’s a good, athletic defender (4.0 block percentage last year).  On offense can obviously operate from the dunker spot (as a former dunk contest champion) or step out for a 3, leading to a generally efficient TS% that’s typically around 60%.  He had an incredible +7.4 net rating for a very disappointing Chicago team.  He had a $3.1 million player option that he declined, so the TPE would give him a raise, unlike the names above who would all be taking sizable pay cuts (and thus be reluctant to sign up for the salary or the role.

If there’s someone who can give us 90% of Grant’s production at 40% the cost, I think Jones Jr. is the guy.

[footey]

I like Saric. He plays hard. Good rebounder. Wood more talented but  seems kind of a head case.

I thought Saric was going to sign with Warriors. What happened?

[Who]

Terence Davis for TMLE.

I see Derrick Jones Jr as a minimum contract guy.

[Celtics2021]

I like Saric. He plays hard. Good rebounder. Wood more talented but  seems kind of a head case.

I thought Saric was going to sign with Warriors. What happened?

I think Saric is holding out for an MLE from someone.

[radiohead]

It’s amazing that. Christian Wood is still without a team.

[goCeltics]

Don't think the Celtics have the tMLE to offer unless they dump someone. I don't think it's a big deal, not much difference with the Vet min level

[jpotter33]

I think the fourth big/swing position is most important to address first. After that, we can deal with the backup wings/guards with vet minimums, but we can manage with what we currently have.

[gouki88]

Jones Jr. would be fine to me. Also like Biyombo & W Hernangomez if we go big

[radiohead]

I think the fourth big/swing position is most important to address first. After that, we can deal with the backup wings/guards with vet minimums, but we can manage with what we currently have.

This is my concern as well. As it is now, we have Luke to fill out that role.

[Surferdad]

I think the fourth big/swing position is most important to address first. After that, we can deal with the backup wings/guards with vet minimums, but we can manage with what we currently have.

This is my concern as well. As it is now, we have Luke to fill out that role.

True and he's on a cheap contract. I don't think he even belongs in the NBA but he could end up as a 4th big. Bummer.

[Roy H.]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE. 

Is it that high?  Spotrac has it as $3,388,433, which is the number I'm coming up with (salaries + Demetrius Jackson + unlikely incentives = $179,405,557; second apron is $182,794,000.

A 10-year vet minimum is $3,196,448, right?  So offering the MLE in that case would hard cap us, but only result in $200k more to the player.

You could theoretically add more by cutting guys making more than the subsidized minimum (i.e., Kornet), but not *much* more.

[Celtics2021]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE. 

Is it that high?  Spotrac has it as $3,388,433, which is the number I'm coming up with (salaries + Demetrius Jackson + unlikely incentives = $179,405,557; second apron is $182,794,000.

A 10-year vet minimum is $3,196,448, right?  So offering the MLE in that case would hard cap us, but only result in $200k more to the player.

You could theoretically add more by cutting guys making more than the subsidized minimum (i.e., Kornet), but not *much* more.

Maybe Spotrac updated some numbers since I last calculated it prior to free agency starting.  I’ll check again, but my guess is they’re including a roster hold for a 14th player of $1.1 million.  If we instead use the TPE on that 14th, we’d have $4.4 million.

[Roy H.]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE. 

Is it that high?  Spotrac has it as $3,388,433, which is the number I'm coming up with (salaries + Demetrius Jackson + unlikely incentives = $179,405,557; second apron is $182,794,000.

A 10-year vet minimum is $3,196,448, right?  So offering the MLE in that case would hard cap us, but only result in $200k more to the player.

You could theoretically add more by cutting guys making more than the subsidized minimum (i.e., Kornet), but not *much* more.

Maybe Spotrac updated some numbers since I last calculated it prior to free agency starting.  I’ll check again, but my guess is they’re including a roster hold for a 14th player of $1.1 million.  If we instead use the TPE on that 14th, we’d have $4.4 million.

I don't think it's a roster hold / cap charge, but yeah, check it out.  I know that I was surprised, as in my head I'd been figuring roughly $4 million.

[BitterJim]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE. 

Is it that high?  Spotrac has it as $3,388,433, which is the number I'm coming up with (salaries + Demetrius Jackson + unlikely incentives = $179,405,557; second apron is $182,794,000.

A 10-year vet minimum is $3,196,448, right?  So offering the MLE in that case would hard cap us, but only result in $200k more to the player.

You could theoretically add more by cutting guys making more than the subsidized minimum (i.e., Kornet), but not *much* more.

Even if it isn't much more year one, we'd be able to offer a second/third year (and maybe a player option) without worrying about losing the subsidy (since you don't get one in an MLE), which could make the offer a bit more enticing

[Celtics2021]

We could have roughly $4.8 million to spend on someone with the TPE. 

Is it that high?  Spotrac has it as $3,388,433, which is the number I'm coming up with (salaries + Demetrius Jackson + unlikely incentives = $179,405,557; second apron is $182,794,000.

A 10-year vet minimum is $3,196,448, right?  So offering the MLE in that case would hard cap us, but only result in $200k more to the player.

You could theoretically add more by cutting guys making more than the subsidized minimum (i.e., Kornet), but not *much* more.

Maybe Spotrac updated some numbers since I last calculated it prior to free agency starting.  I’ll check again, but my guess is they’re including a roster hold for a 14th player of $1.1 million.  If we instead use the TPE on that 14th, we’d have $4.4 million.

I don't think it's a roster hold / cap charge, but yeah, check it out.  I know that I was surprised, as in my head I'd been figuring roughly $4 million.

Yep, not a hold.  I think I forgot my sheet assumes we dump Champagnie for Walsh and Kornet for Davison, which clear an extra $1.4ish million.