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Royce White has refused to go the D-League, as requested by the Rockets, saying in a statement, "I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals."
White goes on to say the team has made "unsafe" decisions and has been "extremely misleading" in their presentation of the facts, while "refusing to adhere to medical sensibility." This destroys any notion of goodwill between Royce and the Rockets, and it's starting to feel like a matter of time before Houston cuts ties with their No. 16 draft pick.
Source: Jonathan Feigen on Twitter Dec 30 - 2:08 PM
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wow Royce white has a worse attitude than Demarcus Cousins.
A shame too because I think the kid has a ton of talent and an NBA ready body/athleticism.
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I still remember when I was disappointed we ended up with Sully instead of him. Boy was I wrong.
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I didn't want him, but I hoped he had a decent career in the league.
Really unfortunate.
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Royce White has refused to go the D-League, as requested by the Rockets, saying in a statement, "I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals."
White goes on to say the team has made "unsafe" decisions and has been "extremely misleading" in their presentation of the facts, while "refusing to adhere to medical sensibility." This destroys any notion of goodwill between Royce and the Rockets, and it's starting to feel like a matter of time before Houston cuts ties with their No. 16 draft pick.
Source: Jonathan Feigen on Twitter Dec 30 - 2:08 PM
The Rockets should just dump him. I'm all for supporting someone with mental illness, but this guy doesn't want to play in the NBA, he wants to take advantage of his condition to make a point and get paid for doing nothing but criticizing his employer. Ron Artest and Demarcus Cousins have some psychiatric issues but make a full effort to work and compete every year. This guy does the opposite.
I haven't seen a single comment from him about being sorry or disappointed that he hasn't been able to play yet for his team, or that he's looking forward to helping his team. Every statement is legal-speech about how he's being mistreated by the Rockets when they put their faith in him by drafting him and have tried to work with him and accomodate him.
If playing in the D-league is really too stressful for him, then he shouldn't be in the NBA because it's just going to get more and more stressful.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
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Houston is chock full of promising young players, many who play White's position. There's no way they continue to let this rookie dictate how they utilize him.
The Rockets will have to carefully skirt labor law regarding mentally ill workers as they jettison him. I'm sure some other team will take a shot at him and the Rockets can probably grab a second round pick for him.
In hindsight, the Rockets should have grabbed big man Tyler Zeller, who was selected one pick after White.
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I find it amazing that at this extremely early time in his career we can probably label him the biggest head case in NBA history. And that's not me trying to be mean. The NBA has seen some headcases. Derrick Coleman. Isiah Rider. Maybe even Iverson on a bad day. And I'm not trying to confuse headcase with diva here. But this is unreal.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. There are absolutely no statements of what he expects from the Rockets, what exactly did they not provide, etc. And as you said, he was able to play at ISU, how is the D-league so much more stressful? The Rockets are kind of screwed here though, they are likely to come out looking like abusers if they sue him. They are better off cutting him, arranging a buyout, and cutting their losses. If they are really lucky, maybe they can trade him to another NBA team for a 2nd round pick.
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If I'm the Rockets I might go get some help from groups like NAMI and be like "What do you recommend? What's fair here? We think he's publicly abusing this because of x,y, and z. Can you help back us up? Cause this is absurd".
And then I'd give the kid a last warning and then go to war against him. This shouldn't be tolerated. If i had any aaannnnnyyyy inkling whhhaaaaaatttsoeeeeevvveer that Royce was doing even ONE thing to meaningfully work with the Rockets I'd be ok with this. Instead he does less than he did for ISU, badmouths them, and wants us to think they're the bad guys.
People know more about illness than Royce thinks. People are starting to know the difference between anxiety, depression, bipolar, schitzo-affective do, paranoia, etc. People believe he can play cause we've seen it. Now do your job the best you can. Nobody thinks you're doing that.
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I say he will never play in NBA
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I don't see him playing in Europe either. That's a huge flight. Or boat ride.
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I still remember when I was disappointed we ended up with Sully instead of him. Boy was I wrong.
Me too man same thoughts.
And I agree with others in that people know more about illnesses, conditions whatever you wanna call it than he thinks. It's terrible that he's got whatever anxiety condition he's got but there are many many treatments and types of help he can get to overcome whatever he's going through. In this situation he is the one being unprofessional.
At this point I find one of three things going on here;
1. His condition is beyond fixable
2. He is a lot worse then anyone thought and there is more going on than just anxiety. (Insanity)
3. He is upset about playing in Houston and is trying to force a trade by acting out.
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I still remember when I was disappointed we ended up with Sully instead of him. Boy was I wrong.
Me too man same thoughts.
And I agree with others in that people know more about illnesses, conditions whatever you wanna call it than he thinks. It's terrible that he's got whatever anxiety condition he's got but there are many many treatments and types of help he can get to overcome whatever he's going through. In this situation he is the one being unprofessional.
At this point I find one of three things going on here;
1. His condition is beyond fixable
2. He is a lot worse then anyone thought and there is more going on than just anxiety. (Insanity)
3. He is upset about playing in Houston and is trying to force a trade by acting out.
He's at the point of sorta trying to convince the whole world that he's had this basically his whole life, but that he was able to deal with it at ISU, but now because of the Rockets he can't be expected to deal with it almost at all. I don't think that's gonna fly.
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He's making Clutchfans go beserk.
Hope the Rockets just dump him for what he's making them go through.
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Not sure why Rockets have to pay him at all.
They're telling him to report somewhere (DLeague) and he is refusing to do so.
He is not performing his end of the contract and is basically being insubordinate.
White's argument could be that he can't perform his contractual obligations because of his disability. Not sure that White's argument holds water. Free will comes in here somewhere, doesn't it?
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Are the Rockets saying he has to travel by plane with the D-League affiliate? If not, then I agree he should be out of the league. He should realize that, mental illness or no, there's a perception that comes with not playing - and he should respect that perception.
If the Rockets offer him the chance to play in the D-League without having to deal with his plane travel issues, then he should be out of the league.
Who is advising him?
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Cousins issues are mostly about growing up and temper control. Maturity. He's young and wild .
Wow ....after reading that WHite statement , if those were his own words , the Celtics dodged a bullet there.
That made up for some of the UNLUCKY draft problems in the past the Celtics suffered though.,
Yikes... :o Big part of this blog was all but ready to draft White, me included :-X
If the Celtics had drafted him. instead of Sully, man I would hate to think about it.
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This guy is a mess, to me he appears as completely impulsive and doesn't think anything through. Royce should have at least finished college so he had something to fall back on after throwing his reputation into the NBA toilet.
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Danny ainge was not going to draft him with either pick
he let white's agent know that during the draft.
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Are the Rockets saying he has to travel by plane with the D-League affiliate? If not, then I agree he should be out of the league. He should realize that, mental illness or no, there's a perception that comes with not playing - and he should respect that perception.
If the Rockets offer him the chance to play in the D-League without having to deal with his plane travel issues, then he should be out of the league.
Who is advising him?
noone is "advising him"
He is handicapped. If he is cut, he can sue the team as well as the association for discrimination according to the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.
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Not sure why Rockets have to pay him at all.
They're telling him to report somewhere (DLeague) and he is refusing to do so.
He is not performing his end of the contract and is basically being insubordinate.
White's argument could be that he can't perform his contractual obligations because of his disability. Not sure that White's argument holds water. Free will comes in here somewhere, doesn't it?
wrong, he is handicapped and he can sue for discrimination if he isnt paid.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
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Not sure why Rockets have to pay him at all.
They're telling him to report somewhere (DLeague) and he is refusing to do so.
He is not performing his end of the contract and is basically being insubordinate.
White's argument could be that he can't perform his contractual obligations because of his disability. Not sure that White's argument holds water. Free will comes in here somewhere, doesn't it?
wrong, he is handicapped and he can sue for discrimination if he isnt paid.
He maybe can sue, but that does not mean he will win. You are not entitled to a job just because you have a disability. Under the ADA, the employer has an affirmative obligation to accomodate the workers disability assuming that workers can perform the essential functions of his job with or without reasonable accomodation.
Obviously this calls for expert medical opinion on what the disability entails and whether or not the employee is capable of performing the essential functions of the job with or without reasonable accomodation. The employer is not required under the ADA to pay an employee that cannot perform essental function of his job.
So what are the essential functions of the job of an NBA player? Does he need accomodations to perform these functions? Are the accomodations reasonable?
He maybe able to claim that his disability if he has one was accomodated at ISU, but this raises a couple of interesting issues. At ISU it was not a job (rolling eyes), the NBA season is quite different from college ball.
Will be interesting if it goes to litigation, but this is not a slam dunk for the disabled worker.
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This guy isnt just mentally ill. He is also a tool.
Unfortunate.
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This guy isnt just mentally ill. He is also a tool.
Unfortunate.
I think it's either he is mentally ill OR he is a tool.
If it's mental illness he is still responsible for his actions, but his actions should be taken in context. Mental illness causes distortions of thinking and variable capacity to manage emotions. To some this probably sounds like an excuse, to others, it's a reason. As a reason, it explains the behavior (which may cause some to feel compassion), it doesn't excuse it.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
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White calls Rockets' statements misleading, inaccurate
Posted Dec 30, 2012 1:57 PM
An official statement from Royce White:
We say there is such an unknown element to mental health in this country, due to the number of people who are not diagnosed. This element also makes it a tough demographic to support.
I agree.
However, it saddens and frightens me to know that in this situation all the decision makers involved have been informed of all the medical dynamics, and yet still refuse to adhere to medical sensibility. In hindsight of the recent tragedies in this country, that had mental illness variables, you would think it would encourage people to act more proactively in that arena. You would think that decision makers who are not well informed about mental health, would take the consultation and recommendation of those who are. You would think we would start to do everything possible to not let the tragic consequences befall us first, before we ask the logical question, "why?", "who knew?" "how could we have helped?. Why not take a proactive approach of "who knows?" "how can we listen?", "how can we support now?"
I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals. The purpose of a doctor's confirmation is to ensure that health decisions are made in the sole interest of health and not conflicted with business. My only hope is that decision makers involved realize that doctors are the only logical source to decide action.
There is an admitted lack of knowledge on behalf of the Rockets and the NBA, it becomes transparent as they choose to forego the knowledge of trained professionals and make independent decisions for something as complex as mental health without consulting any doctors. The Rockets have told me in recent conversations that it is their right to decline even their own doctors' recommendations. The concept of not listening to medical consultants in medical situations is alarming. It is also alarming that a player is susceptible to fines for simply adhering to the recommendation of doctors.
It is true that accommodating mental health can be very tough and complex, however, sometimes the only reasonable solution to doing what is right is doing what is tough. To portray that the Rockets have been supportive to me is fundamentally incorrect.
The information that the Houston Rockets have publicly presented about this situation has been extremely misleading and a lot of times totally inaccurate. An image of support has been presented by the Rockets, but the only logical support here would be listening to the recommendation of the medical professionals involved. That has not totally happened here. I have chosen to not play, because the doctors and I believe it to be unsafe for unqualified Rockets front office personnel to make medical decisions, as they are not mental health professionals.
Source: www.nba.com/2012/news/12/30/royce-whites-statement/index.html
I don't think that the medical recomendations he is alluding to have been made public yet. He has also omitted from his statement what those medical recomendations are.
The way I understand it previously is that his 'mental illness' doesn't prevent him from playing basketball, it simply prevents him from travelling between games on a plane. Surely they could compromise by Royce just playing in Houston's home games; meeting each other halfway is better than nothing. Plus he could also easily drive to away games within Texas, Oklahoma City and New Orleans.
I get the feeling now that he's just being difficult to get some attention. Biting the hand that feeds him by releasing a statement like this has also likely ended his chances of playing with Houston.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
Well it could all be a ruse, in which case the big issue here isn't mental illness. But neither you or I know how he was responding privately to his stresses. And further it's not likely that you or I know specifically what triggers his anxiety. I am clearly not saying that I know that he is mentally ill. If he is, however, it's unlikely you or I would make sense of it given that we know very little about his actual life.
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Royce White has refused to go the D-League, as requested by the Rockets, saying in a statement, "I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals."
White goes on to say the team has made "unsafe" decisions and has been "extremely misleading" in their presentation of the facts, while "refusing to adhere to medical sensibility." This destroys any notion of goodwill between Royce and the Rockets, and it's starting to feel like a matter of time before Houston cuts ties with their No. 16 draft pick.
Source: Jonathan Feigen on Twitter Dec 30 - 2:08 PM
The Rockets should just dump him. I'm all for supporting someone with mental illness, but this guy doesn't want to play in the NBA, he wants to take advantage of his condition to make a point and get paid for doing nothing but criticizing his employer. Ron Artest and Demarcus Cousins have some psychiatric issues but make a full effort to work and compete every year. This guy does the opposite.
They really should be able to just void his contract and send him on his way. Hopefully he made the best of his experience in College and can handle a desk job somewhere.
They have no obligation to deal with him. If he's mentally incapable of doing his job, he should find a new one and they shouldn't need to pay him a cent.
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Royce White has refused to go the D-League, as requested by the Rockets, saying in a statement, "I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals."
White goes on to say the team has made "unsafe" decisions and has been "extremely misleading" in their presentation of the facts, while "refusing to adhere to medical sensibility." This destroys any notion of goodwill between Royce and the Rockets, and it's starting to feel like a matter of time before Houston cuts ties with their No. 16 draft pick.
Source: Jonathan Feigen on Twitter Dec 30 - 2:08 PM
The Rockets should just dump him. I'm all for supporting someone with mental illness, but this guy doesn't want to play in the NBA, he wants to take advantage of his condition to make a point and get paid for doing nothing but criticizing his employer. Ron Artest and Demarcus Cousins have some psychiatric issues but make a full effort to work and compete every year. This guy does the opposite.
They really should be able to just void his contract and send him on his way. Hopefully he made the best of his experience in College and can handle a desk job somewhere.
They have no obligation to deal with him. If he's mentally incapable of doing his job, he should find a new one and they shouldn't need to pay him a cent.
"If he's mentally incapable of doing his job"
1. who said he was metally incapable of doing his job? He can do it, he proved it in college. He is currently suffering from anxiety.
2. "he should find a new one "
Who are you to decide what SOMEONE ELSE should or shouldnt do?
3. He has a disability, and needs to be accomidated to. If not, that is discrimination.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
Actually, He had a very well documented anxiety attack during the draft. He couldnt even see his family and friends right after he was drafted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUS6QBiViQ
nice to see that you diss the guy before you even do your research though.
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Royce White has refused to go the D-League, as requested by the Rockets, saying in a statement, "I do wish to play, but I only intend to do so with the collaboration and recommendation of trained professionals."
White goes on to say the team has made "unsafe" decisions and has been "extremely misleading" in their presentation of the facts, while "refusing to adhere to medical sensibility." This destroys any notion of goodwill between Royce and the Rockets, and it's starting to feel like a matter of time before Houston cuts ties with their No. 16 draft pick.
Source: Jonathan Feigen on Twitter Dec 30 - 2:08 PM
The Rockets should just dump him. I'm all for supporting someone with mental illness, but this guy doesn't want to play in the NBA, he wants to take advantage of his condition to make a point and get paid for doing nothing but criticizing his employer. Ron Artest and Demarcus Cousins have some psychiatric issues but make a full effort to work and compete every year. This guy does the opposite.
They really should be able to just void his contract and send him on his way. Hopefully he made the best of his experience in College and can handle a desk job somewhere.
They have no obligation to deal with him. If he's mentally incapable of doing his job, he should find a new one and they shouldn't need to pay him a cent.
"If he's mentally incapable of doing his job"
1. who said he was metally incapable of doing his job? He can do it, he proved it in college. He is currently suffering from anxiety.
2. "he should find a new one "
Who are you to decide what SOMEONE ELSE should or shouldnt do?
3. He has a disability, and needs to be accomidated to. If not, that is discrimination.
Only reasonable accommodation must be made, and IMO having a professional sports team player only play home games is beyond the level of accommodation that should be required.
One could quibble with the law and the vagueness of what should be required--it's a fundamental principle that one's rights end where another's begin--but it is not the case that an extraordinary level of accommodation, however onerous, must be made.
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This guy isnt just mentally ill. He is also a tool.
Unfortunate.
I think it's either he is mentally ill OR he is a tool.
If it's mental illness he is still responsible for his actions, but his actions should be taken in context. Mental illness causes distortions of thinking and variable capacity to manage emotions. To some this probably sounds like an excuse, to others, it's a reason. As a reason, it explains the behavior (which may cause some to feel compassion), it doesn't excuse it.
It sounds, according to your description, as if mental illness is the reason he's behaving like a tool. That seems reasonable.
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Haha, as much of a punk he is, I'm starting to like Royce White. He wants full accommodations for his illness and immediate star treatment before he even plays a game.
I hope everyone fully understands that anxiety is no joke. It's literally one of the toughest disabilities to live with unmedicated, and nearly impossible to understand unless you're a chronic sufferer.
And as wrong as White has been every step of the way, I gotta give him props for sticking to his guns this long. It's almost refreshing to see someone using their star potential as leverage to get what they need.
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What a guy. Rockets should just waive him. Prob trying to package him in a deal hoping someone will take him
Thanks to white anybody in the future remotely mentioning that they have any mental disorder won't be drafted until the 2nd round if drafted at all
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I feel sorry for the guy. He is doing what his he thinks is best. At least he thinks he know everything. Thats cool and good luck with that. Bottom line he is still wanting to play NBA ball under his own terms. But the league cant shut down for one players special needs. Life is ruff ....get over it.
I am thankful the Celtics are NOT wrapped up in this mess. Its a disttraction . The ROckets should just let him go . PERIOD ...say good bye. If WHite can get better and find a team that will bow to all his request , then good for him. I maybe wrong, but I doubt it. ;D
I fully expect the Rockets is his first and last NBA experience without miracle drugs or brain transplant.
Maybe he can play in Japan and travel by train or possibly Europe.
Gods speed .
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I get anxious on a flight both when a jet leaves the ground and on landing....But I sure as hell would rather fly 3 hours than drive 30.
This is absolutely silly.
White should be cut if he refuses to go to D-league. He's an employee of the Rockets. He should be suspended without pay until he goes.
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Haha, as much of a punk he is, I'm starting to like Royce White. He wants full accommodations for his illness and immediate star treatment before he even plays a game.
I hope everyone fully understands that anxiety is no joke. It's literally one of the toughest disabilities to live with unmedicated, and nearly impossible to understand unless you're a chronic sufferer.
And as wrong as White has been every step of the way, I gotta give him props for sticking to his guns this long. It's almost refreshing to see someone using their star potential as leverage to get what they need.
He's a late first rounder....He's not a star and has no leverage.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
Actually, He had a very well documented anxiety attack during the draft. He couldnt even see his family and friends right after he was drafted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUS6QBiViQ
nice to see that you diss the guy before you even do your research though.
I said the draft process. Not the draft. He sat down with GMs and did fine in interviews, didn't he? He travelled to them I assume. He sat down with people and never mentioned "Hey if I get anxiety severe enough I might miss a quarter of the season or more." He didn't mention that during the draft process, did he? During the draft process there were no hints of an uncontrollable or untreatable illness. It was only after the draft that that happened, right? Perfect timing. I stand by what I said 100%. If you can find me a place where he told teams that realistically he could miss a huge amount of the season and that he would bad mouth them if he didn't think they were making the right accommodations then I will say you are right and I was wrong.
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This guy is basically a pyscho with a severe anxiety disorder.
He's crazy- imagine a Ron Artest with better vocational skills.
Someone so mentally ill, that they've convinced themselves that they are always the victim.
He's not being a punk, his mental problems are making him a punk, and he doesn't even realize it.
Very unfortunate because the Rockets are one of the best organizations and they shouldn't have to go through this crap.
I feel sorry for Royce and I feel sorry for the Rockets.
He's found his stage and he's convinced himself, like many a pyschopath, that he's an eternal victim. One million people telling him he's being a jackass, yet 1000 people are saying 'You go Royce, do it for the mentally ill!'.
He's a complete and utter Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.bag, but he doesn't realize it.
For Royce, he can be a Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and get away with it because to him that's normal.
Thank god we didn't draft this poor guy.
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up homeless or dead.
He's so unbelievably impulsive and I just can't understand how he's not medicated to stop this- that's one of the reasons I'm suspicious as to him having a severe anxiety disorder as opposed to be completely nuts- it could definitely be the latter.
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This guy is basically a pyscho with a severe anxiety disorder.
He's crazy- imagine a Ron Artest with better vocational skills.
Someone so mentally ill, that they've convinced themselves that they are always the victim.
He's not being a punk, his mental problems are making him a punk, and he doesn't even realize it.
Very unfortunate because the Rockets are one of the best organizations and they shouldn't have to go through this crap.
I feel sorry for Royce and I feel sorry for the Rockets.
He's found his stage and he's convinced himself, like many a pyschopath, that he's an eternal victim. One million people telling him he's being a jackass, yet 1000 people are saying 'You go Royce, do it for the mentally ill!'.
He's a complete and utter ****bag, but he doesn't realize it.
For Royce, he can be a **** and get away with it because to him that's normal.
Thank god we didn't draft this poor guy.
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up homeless or dead.
He's so unbelievably impulsive and I just can't understand how he's not medicated to stop this- that's one of the reasons I'm suspicious as to him having a severe anxiety disorder as opposed to be completely nuts- it could definitely be the latter.
Insanely harsh.
But true.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
Actually, He had a very well documented anxiety attack during the draft. He couldnt even see his family and friends right after he was drafted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUS6QBiViQ
nice to see that you diss the guy before you even do your research though.
I said the draft process. Not the draft. He sat down with GMs and did fine in interviews, didn't he? He travelled to them I assume. He sat down with people and never mentioned "Hey if I get anxiety severe enough I might miss a quarter of the season or more." He didn't mention that during the draft process, did he? During the draft process there were no hints of an uncontrollable or untreatable illness. It was only after the draft that that happened, right? Perfect timing. I stand by what I said 100%. If you can find me a place where he told teams that realistically he could miss a huge amount of the season and that he would bad mouth them if he didn't think they were making the right accommodations then I will say you are right and I was wrong.
No it was during the draft process. Teams took him off their draft boards because of it. You are just wrong here.
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At this point I am starting to wonder if he has gotten any NBA checks yet. Where is this guy's money coming from? What is he doing for a job? Where is he on this planet, what is he doing and how is he doing it? It makes no sense. Is he getting a check and is just on the injury report?
I think they are legally obligated to pay him. This is in all essence an injury. It's like when a guy has knee surgery the doctors can say at some point, you're ready to play. But here it's much more undefined as to when/how someone with anxiety disorder is ready to play. Unfortunately I believe White is taking full advantage of that.
It's just that he refuses to show up, refuses to do what they tell him, bad mouths them. I just find this whole thing amazing. It just seems that Royce thinks a mental illness gives him permission to do or not do whatever he wants. If I'm a judge I'm at least requiring him to do what he did for Iowa State because it is known that he can absolutely do that. I suppose an illness can worsen, but geeze. And Royce is making no statements at all about "This is what ISU did to help me that they didn't do". Instead he's just like "They're mean. I don't have to do anything if I don't want to".
If I'm the Rockets I'm going to the union, to Stern, to court. I'm documenting the heck out of stuff, and then I'm stopping checks. He can get it back when he shapes up. If this goes well for Royce I could see other players getting various diagnosises as well. PTSD and such.
I agree. He's setting a bad precedence and ruining it for players who actually want to try and play despite having a mental illness. .
It's likely that his behavior is a manifestation of his illness. Oviously he has to take responsibity (pay the consequences) for his actions, but mental illnes will impact his ability to think rationally. I realize there is temptation to be disappointed in someone who is seemingly unable (at least to this point) to 'manage' his own mental illness, but this is what happens to people who are mentally ill. It's almost never a road without serious bumps.
None of us really knows him so it's unfair to make any definitive comment, but if an anxiety disorder is the primary diagnosis and he is dealing with unusually intense stressors at 21 years old, it shouldn't be too surprising that he is sounding a bit nutty. Mental illness doesn't go away just because you are motivated to make it go away. Anxiety disorders do impact thinking and the desperation to avoid stressful circumstances can easily lead to distortions and rationalizations to protect against the anxiety. Assuming that what we are seeing is a manifestation of his menatl illness, I hope those who care about him are trying to guide him well rather than selfishly increasing his stress by pushing his NBA career above all else.
Kind of interesting that his illness didn't flare up during the draft process and just happened to flare up now that he has been drafted and signed a contract. That's pretty excellent timing on the illness' part. I mean it could have had serious anxiety issues enough to push him to the second round, but somehow things were going fine till he had to do his job. I mean I would think the draft process might cause some serious anxiety. But apparently not.
Actually, He had a very well documented anxiety attack during the draft. He couldnt even see his family and friends right after he was drafted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUS6QBiViQ
nice to see that you diss the guy before you even do your research though.
I said the draft process. Not the draft. He sat down with GMs and did fine in interviews, didn't he? He travelled to them I assume. He sat down with people and never mentioned "Hey if I get anxiety severe enough I might miss a quarter of the season or more." He didn't mention that during the draft process, did he? During the draft process there were no hints of an uncontrollable or untreatable illness. It was only after the draft that that happened, right? Perfect timing. I stand by what I said 100%. If you can find me a place where he told teams that realistically he could miss a huge amount of the season and that he would bad mouth them if he didn't think they were making the right accommodations then I will say you are right and I was wrong.
No it was during the draft process. Teams took him off their draft boards because of it. You are just wrong here.
teams including the celtics.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
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Could the Rockets go to the NBA brass and say that they have to let the kid go and that if he ever decides to try the NBA again, they can renegotiate?
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7505656/iowa-state-royce-white-battle-college-basketball (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7505656/iowa-state-royce-white-battle-college-basketball)
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/bringing_order_to_disorder_Iiifvl4JeXbjUjjxTzFp6N (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/bringing_order_to_disorder_Iiifvl4JeXbjUjjxTzFp6N)
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/story/2012-02-21/royce-white-iowa-state/53196534/1 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/story/2012-02-21/royce-white-iowa-state/53196534/1)
There are tons of other similar articles. The reality is, Houston knew what it was getting into and knew full well that something like this could happen. I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, but with most things, I'm sure it is somewhere in the middle of what Houston and White are saying publicly.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
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BTW, this is how the guy identifies himself on Twitter--enough to make you wonder if he ever plans to play basketball again:
Royce White
@Highway_30
#HUMAN 1st & Foremost, Then... Humanitarian, Writer and Imaginer. {RedNation} #AnxietyTroopers #BeWell
Progressing · iamumusic.com
Here's a tweet of his from this morning, not exactly the day of a professional basketball player:
Royce White @Highway_30
ICK! It's ☔ outside, but I guess the trees need it so... I'm going back to sleep! new screenplay & push-ups when I wake up. 💤 #Rushin
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
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BTW, this is how the guy identifies himself on Twitter--enough to make you wonder if he ever plans to play basketball again:
Royce White
@Highway_30
#HUMAN 1st & Foremost, Then... Humanitarian, Writer and Imaginer. {RedNation} #AnxietyTroopers #BeWell
Progressing · iamumusic.com
Here's a tweet of his from this morning, not exactly the day of a professional basketball player:
Royce White @Highway_30
ICK! It's ☔ outside, but I guess the trees need it so... I'm going back to sleep! new screenplay & push-ups when I wake up. 💤 #Rushin
It does make you wonder whether he ever intended to actually play NBA basketball, or just wanted to payday...
It would be really interesting if the Rockets ever tried to void his contract. They never would, because he would sue them for discrimination, but it would be an interesting case.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
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one thing for sure... this Royce White incident will be teaching a HUGE lesson to other GM 's and teams. When it comes to hiring. Buyer Beware of issues like this. Cover you tail to the max. People like this willmilk the system for all its worth.
Houston is to blame , they took him when other team suspected his issues might not be easy to work around.
I mean this guy is headche ..right out of the box....
Shoot him with a tranquliizer and toss him on the plane. ;D
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
I don't know about multiple. He didn't report to DLeauge citing medical concerns (maybe the Rockets told him he had to fly immediately, who knows), that is far from multiple.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
I don't know about multiple. He didn't report to DLeauge citing medical concerns (maybe the Rockets told him he had to fly immediately, who knows), that is far from multiple.
He missed part of training camp and practices too.
Actually, he missed all of training camp, missed preseason, and missed most practices
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/royce-white-out-tonight-working-though-sticky-situation-to-get-on-the-bus/
the Rockets fined him for missing practices, and for failure to attend sessions with a therapist:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20982846/royce-white-being-fined-for-each-missed-practice-game
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
I don't know about multiple. He didn't report to DLeauge citing medical concerns (maybe the Rockets told him he had to fly immediately, who knows), that is far from multiple.
He missed part of training camp and practices too.
Actually, he missed all of training camp, missed preseason, and missed most practices
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/royce-white-out-tonight-working-though-sticky-situation-to-get-on-the-bus/
the Rockets fined him for missing practices, and for failure to attend sessions with a therapist:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20982846/royce-white-being-fined-for-each-missed-practice-game
his version is he worked out a schedule with Houston which it violated. too many people just believing everything Houston says
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
I don't know about multiple. He didn't report to DLeauge citing medical concerns (maybe the Rockets told him he had to fly immediately, who knows), that is far from multiple.
He missed part of training camp and practices too.
Actually, he missed all of training camp, missed preseason, and missed most practices
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/royce-white-out-tonight-working-though-sticky-situation-to-get-on-the-bus/
the Rockets fined him for missing practices, and for failure to attend sessions with a therapist:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20982846/royce-white-being-fined-for-each-missed-practice-game
his version is he worked out a schedule with Houston which it violated. too many people just believing everything Houston says
what does that even mean? Does he get to dictate when practices or preseason games are scheduled? I'm not saying I believe one side over the other, just that the only facts so far are that he has missed multiple assignments.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
In the same token, you can't be certain that the Rockets actually broke any promises to help him. So far there is no evidence that they promised certain things and didn't do them.
In that draft day video, White seemed so grateful that the Rockets took a chance on him. Makes you wonder what changed so much since then. He has a serious issue though, and I believe he will never be able to make it through an NBA season. I think he knows this.
He has said they did. Same evidence you have from the Rockets.
Exactly my point. There is no evidence on either side, so you cannot make a conclusion. The only evidence so far is that White refuses to show up for multiple assignments.
I don't know about multiple. He didn't report to DLeauge citing medical concerns (maybe the Rockets told him he had to fly immediately, who knows), that is far from multiple.
He missed part of training camp and practices too.
Actually, he missed all of training camp, missed preseason, and missed most practices
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/royce-white-out-tonight-working-though-sticky-situation-to-get-on-the-bus/
the Rockets fined him for missing practices, and for failure to attend sessions with a therapist:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20982846/royce-white-being-fined-for-each-missed-practice-game
his version is he worked out a schedule with Houston which it violated. too many people just believing everything Houston says
what does that even mean? Does he get to dictate when practices or preseason games are scheduled? I'm not saying I believe one side over the other, just that the only facts so far are that he has missed multiple assignments.
I'm pretty sure he is implying Houston has renegged on the deal and required him to go to more things at different times, etc.
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Guy has issues, needs to face reality. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown man and this is a career, not high school. At some point you just need to throw common sense into the equation.
If I'm scared of heights, I'm NOT going to apply for a job working on a massive bridge, then tell my employer I can't show up because of my fear of heights and demand them to change their entire work process to accomodate me. That's not fair for me to expect so I'd just choose another profession, one I can actual work with!
This guy is a fruitcake and makes DeMarcus Cousins look like an accomplished phychologist by comparison.
Wasn't this an already known fact before the draft? The Rockets took responsibility in that one. They drafted him for his basketball talent, knowing the situation.
Actually, I don't think this metaphor fits perfectly. White's basketball has nothing to do with his anxiety. The traveling issues is a part of it, though.
I tend to take the mental illnesses seriously. Cousins is a headache because it's his persona. It has nothing to do with his mental health.
I think the equivalent would be if a bridge builder hired someone who admitted having had a fear of heights, but said he had it in check and expected to be able to work on bridges just fine, thank you.
Then instead of showing up for work on day one, the new employee called in afraid to appear at the bridge site, let alone go up to work on it.
I'd take it that because Houston gave him a guaranteed contract they're in a worse situation than a typical bridge builder. But could that bridge builder be forced to pay their never-working employee--or at least give him disability pay?
Or maybe the employer promised to do certain things to help the employee cope with this known condition and the employer failed to do everything they promised to do and that is why the employee is having difficulty.
You can't just believe everything Houston is telling the public. I'm sure they made promises to White that they failed to live up to because I'm sure they didn't believe his condition was as bad as it was.
I haven't seen anything where White has even implied that. What he is saying is that Houston isn't agreeing in principle or actuality to agree to what White's preferred doc (his old GP, last I saw) dictates.
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Looks like we have our answer to the Royce White dilemma, h/t hoopshype:
Miguel Angel Paniagua: Royce White's representatives will start exploring options in Europe next week. His contract would have to include a "no fly" clause. Twitter @pantxopaniagua
Makes sense. With White's agent part of Andy Miller's agent group, which is the fifth largest in the NBA, the agent's reputation and reliability is more important in the long run than one unproven and problematic player. Far better for the agent to find some sort of out for Houston than for this to continue. I don't know that ground travel across Europe will be the answer for White, but some sort of international contract could be.
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Not sure where that Hoopshype thing came from. White just tweeted that he is not going to Europe, and that he will play for Houston once the situation is resolved.
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I tend to be empathetic, but enough is enough with this White situation. Maybe if he stopped twittering and just handled the situation privately with the Rockets management, things would work out better for him.
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I tend to be empathetic, but enough is enough with this White situation. Maybe if he stopped twittering and just handled the situation privately with the Rockets management, things would work out better for him.
Agree - I don't think the tweets are helping. He made his point about 20 tweets ago.
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I tend to be empathetic, but enough is enough with this White situation. Maybe if he stopped twittering and just handled the situation privately with the Rockets management, things would work out better for him.
Honestly, I think they are trying to make it as public as possible, to make it harder and harder for Houston to void his contract. At this point, I think their goal is to make Houston pay him to go away, so he can pursue his music/filmaking/whatever he wants career.
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Not sure where that Hoopshype thing came from. White just tweeted that he is not going to Europe, and that he will play for Houston once the situation is resolved.
Notably he didn't deny that there was a basis for the tweet--only says that he was going to play in Europe instead of for Houston. It's not hard to imagine his agent working hard to get to a positive resolution one way or another.
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Brian Mahoney @briancmahoney
Rockets suspend Royce White for refusing to provide services as required by the uniform player contract.
Retweeted by Paul Flannery
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I hope that means he doesn't get paid
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Royce White @Highway_30
Threat, Fines, Suspension won't deter me. I won't accept illogical health decisions, I will keep asking for safety & health. #BeWell @dmorey
Retweeted 56 times
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Do you think the Celts can do the same thing and suspend Jeff Green for not providing services also? I'd rather have Royce White right now. He's not half the head case.
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Do you think the Celts can do the same thing and suspend Jeff Green for not providing services also? I'd rather have Royce White right now. He's not half the head case.
haha! Tp!
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I saw White's pathetic interview on PTI....He told Wilbon he's "negotiating" for the right playing conditions so he can play in D-League.
I think White's agent is trying to market him as some kind of NBA mental health pioneer. White seems very full of himself.
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I saw White's pathetic interview on PTI....He told Wilbon he's "negotiating" for the right playing conditions so he can play in D-League.
I think White's agent is trying to market him as some kind of NBA mental health pioneer. White seems very full of himself.
I don't think he's marketing him, I think he is building a case to get paid for his contract, even though he can't play basketball.
This was manipulated beautifully by his agent since well before the draft. He was able to use the media to get White taken a lot higher than he deserved (and therefore guaranteed more money), and now that the truth is coming out that White really is not capable of playing NBA basketball, his agent is making sure they have a watertight case, in the unlikely event the Rockets try to get out of paying him.
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I would just release him..its not worth the headache
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I would just release him..its not worth the headache
I'm sure that will happen at some point. Although there is no benefit to rushing, unless they want the roster spot.