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86 vs 24
« on: February 23, 2024, 04:51:20 PM »

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I see a similarity between the teams.
The game was different and I think the 86 team was the best ever, but there are an amazing amount of parallels.

Bird - Tatum
McHale - Brown
Parrish - Porzingis
Johnson - White
Ainge - Holiday
Walton - Horford
Wedman - Hauser
Sichting - Pritchard

 Kite - Kornet
Carlisle - Brissett
Thurdkill - Queda
Vincent - Mykhailiuk

The aging center that still impacts the game sticks out to me.

I give Stevens some credit for a well balanced roster.




Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2024, 05:14:48 PM »

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I see a similarity between the teams.
The game was different and I think the 86 team was the best ever, but there are an amazing amount of parallels.

Bird - Tatum
McHale - Brown
Parrish - Porzingis
Johnson - White
Ainge - Holiday
Walton - Horford
Wedman - Hauser
Sichting - Pritchard

 Kite - Kornet
Carlisle - Brissett
Thurdkill - Queda
Vincent - Mykhailiuk

The aging center that still impacts the game sticks out to me.

I give Stevens some credit for a well balanced roster.

86 would eat 24 alive!

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2024, 05:19:51 PM »

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No doubt.

Its the parallels in the roster that intrigue me.

In particular, the roles that Big Al and Walton played.
But Tatum and Bird. Bird was already an MVP, but they are the best player on the best team.
McHale guarded the best forward, like Brown, 2nd scorer.

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2024, 06:07:29 PM »

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In most categories the construction is the same.

Assists per game;
Bird and Tatum lead.
Then the combo-guards; Johnson/Ainge v. White/Holiday. I'm not sure who to call the "point" guard.
Then McHale and Brown. Neither famous for their passing.
Then the back-up "point" guard. Sichting/Pritchard.
Then the aging center, Walton/Horford.

The roster construction is at least "similar"

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2024, 08:09:59 PM »

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No doubt.

Its the parallels in the roster that intrigue me.

In particular, the roles that Big Al and Walton played.
But Tatum and Bird. Bird was already an MVP, but they are the best player on the best team.
McHale guarded the best forward, like Brown, 2nd scorer.

The 2024 Detroit Pistons would sweep the 86 Celtics.

Era comparisons are so tired and moot.
"Gimme the ball, gimme the ball". Freddy Quimby, 1994.

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2024, 08:47:16 PM »

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86 was tough and fear no one
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2024, 09:29:34 PM »

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I see a similarity between the teams.
The game was different and I think the 86 team was the best ever, but there are an amazing amount of parallels.

Bird - Tatum
McHale - Brown
Parrish - Porzingis
Johnson - White
Ainge - Holiday
Walton - Horford
Wedman - Hauser
Sichting - Pritchard

 Kite - Kornet
Carlisle - Brissett
Thurdkill - Queda
Vincent - Mykhailiuk

The aging center that still impacts the game sticks out to me.

I give Stevens some credit for a well balanced roster.

I'd compare Brissett to Thirdkill, but other than that, I like it.

You've got forwards that are prolific scorers.  A center that put up strong numbers on weaker teams but sacrificed stats to help take a stronger team to the next level.  One defensive minded guard with championship experience that adapts his role to whatever the team needs.  Another tenacious guard that stepped up his game after the player in front of him got traded.

Of the bench you've got a veteran center, sharpshooting wing, and scrappy point guard.

The 86 team was better, but I see no reason this team can't win a ring in their likeness.

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2024, 11:24:02 PM »

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This is a ridiculous thread.  These teams are notnin any way comparable
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Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2024, 03:08:27 AM »

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Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2024, 09:13:54 AM »

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No doubt.

Its the parallels in the roster that intrigue me.

In particular, the roles that Big Al and Walton played.
But Tatum and Bird. Bird was already an MVP, but they are the best player on the best team.
McHale guarded the best forward, like Brown, 2nd scorer.

The 2024 Detroit Pistons would sweep the 86 Celtics.

Era comparisons are so tired and moot.

I tend to agree, though your example is a little extreme. Good luck trying to get people on this board to think that anyone could beat the 86 Celtics.

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2024, 10:24:04 AM »

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No doubt.

Its the parallels in the roster that intrigue me.

In particular, the roles that Big Al and Walton played.
But Tatum and Bird. Bird was already an MVP, but they are the best player on the best team.
McHale guarded the best forward, like Brown, 2nd scorer.

The 2024 Detroit Pistons would sweep the 86 Celtics.

Era comparisons are so tired and moot.

I tend to agree, though your example is a little extreme. Good luck trying to get people on this board to think that anyone could beat the 86 Celtics.

I assumed that the two teams would be in their prime. I guess you mean today. Then your right 65 year old Larry Bird and co. wouldn't be able to compete.


Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2024, 10:28:00 AM »

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Count me in the group that does not see the comparison. These teams were built for their specific eras.

Having said that, if I can pick one player from those two teams and build around him, I'll take Bird every time. To me, his game was timeless and could play in any era.

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2024, 04:47:49 PM »

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Count me in the group that does not see the comparison. These teams were built for their specific eras.

Having said that, if I can pick one player from those two teams and build around him, I'll take Bird every time. To me, his game was timeless and could play in any era.
86 Bird would be the best player in the league right now.
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Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2024, 05:17:59 PM »

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Count me in the group that does not see the comparison. These teams were built for their specific eras.

Having said that, if I can pick one player from those two teams and build around him, I'll take Bird every time. To me, his game was timeless and could play in any era.
86 Bird would be the best player in the league right now.

86 Bird would easily be the best player. The touch fouls and decent sneakers would make him even better!

Re: 86 vs 24
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2024, 08:00:21 AM »

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Agree that it is interesting to think about how Bird would compare with massively increased training schedule, sports medicine, practicing three point shooting a TON more, ball handling practiced/carry tolerance that would be able to break down even G League defence.

That being said, his high volume 3 point shooting years, he is remarkably accurate - Curry level.

So probably fair to presume with waaaaay more reps and modern conditioning he could be the best 3 point shooter in history.

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