Tacko time

[GreenRunsDeep33]

Can we start giving Tacko some meaningful minutes.

Who cares about his fouls. No he doesnt shoot the 3 ball but his presence and rebounding could limit 5-7 possessions a game defensively and give the Cs 7s an additional 5-7 possessions on offense.

Tacko and Waters bring a different pace to the game, which makes the opponent adjust instead if us always having to adjust. No one is saying they should be in there at crunch time but we need that 2nd seed and in the playoffs it becomes a halfcourt game. We would need size against the Bucks, Raptors or Sixers.

[RPGenerate]

How about no? He's not an NBA player. I'd rather trot out Semi at the 5 than have Tacko play meaningful minutes.

[Donoghus]

I have to imagine Brad & the coaching staff would be giving him meaningful minutes if they were seeing something.

[nickagneta]

Neither Waters nor Tacko are NBA level players. Waters has looked awful in his time away from Maine and Tacko.....well, Tacko, right now, is useless in the NBA.

Also, neither is eligible to play in the playoffs, so best to give players that could be used in the playoffs minutes like Grant, Timelord, Semi, Romeo, Wanamaker, Green and Edwards.

[GreenRunsDeep33]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

[GreenFaith1819]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

[tazzmaniac]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Boban is a lot better than Tacko.  With the Sixers last year playoffs, Boban was able to play against the Nets but against the Raptors he was garbage.   

[ozgod]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

I try and watch all the Red Claw games on NBC Sports Boston. Waters isn't quite Ty Lue or Bogues yet. Maybe he will be but right now not yet. Like Kemba his size counts against him in close games and he doesn't have the shooting prowess just yet.

As for Tacko, the team has to go to a zone defense to accommodate him. Because if they don't they will run rings around him in the PnR. That's ok they can live with that for specific situations. But his biggest issue is conditioning...he plays 23 min a game but it's all in short spurts. The Rockets would run him off the floor. They would actually be one of the worst teams to play him against. He would fare much better against teams with another big, and who plays at a slower pace.

Just because you're tall doesn't automatically mean you're good. There's a reason Tacko and Tremont were drafted where they were. But Tacko has a chance to be tall and good - and Tremont small and good - as long as we don't overhype them and allow them to continue to develop in the G-League where they belong right now.

[GreenRunsDeep33]

When I'm giving examples of who Waters can play like of course hes not as good as Lue or Bugues yet but nothing beats experience and playing in the GL isn't the experience of learning in the NBA.

Sure Tacko would struggle but have you'll seen our bench?? We have no playmakers or game changers coming off the bench.

[Monkhouse]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Cites Tacko Fall as a competent bench player, for his defense, and rebounding, then proceeds to say Rodman/Jones, (two of the best defenders, hustle & rebounding guys, plus Hall of Famers,) aren't HoF worthy...

So which one is it?

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

Those are some terrible takes.

Tacko Fall is not NBA caliber.

[GreenRunsDeep33]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Cites Tacko Fall as a competent bench player, for his defense, and rebounding, then proceeds to say Rodman/Jones, (two of the best defenders, hustle & rebounding guys, plus Hall of Famers,) aren't HoF worthy...

So which one is it?

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

Those are some terrible takes.

Tacko Fall is not NBA caliber.

You probably haven't watched much basketball. My point is those guys were specialists. In the game to do one thing well. You're not going to have everyone score 30 points and be an all around good player. Where are the guys to do the dirty work...rebound, block shots. Intimidate will say it again. On this team Waters can be effective for stretches and Tacko can be effective in limiting 2nd chane points. This isn't a deep team and they couldn't do any worse than what we see now.

[Monkhouse]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Cites Tacko Fall as a competent bench player, for his defense, and rebounding, then proceeds to say Rodman/Jones, (two of the best defenders, hustle & rebounding guys, plus Hall of Famers,) aren't HoF worthy...

So which one is it?

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

Those are some terrible takes.

Tacko Fall is not NBA caliber.

You probably haven't watched much basketball. My point is those guys were specialists. In the game to do one thing well. You're not going to have everyone score 30 points and be an all around good player. Where are the guys to do the dirty work...rebound, block shots. Intimidate will say it again. On this team Waters can be effective for stretches and Tacko can be effective in limiting 2nd chane points. This isn't a deep team and they couldn't do any worse than what we see now.

So let me ask you this then...

What impact do you think Tacko can realistically make on our team? I like Waters, but he falls into the Phil Pressey, and Shane Larkin issue where he's not able to shoot well enough to make up for his size. Granted, he's a better perimeter defender, but he's still 5'10.

[nickagneta]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Cites Tacko Fall as a competent bench player, for his defense, and rebounding, then proceeds to say Rodman/Jones, (two of the best defenders, hustle & rebounding guys, plus Hall of Famers,) aren't HoF worthy...

So which one is it?

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

Those are some terrible takes.

Tacko Fall is not NBA caliber.

You probably haven't watched much basketball. My point is those guys were specialists. In the game to do one thing well. You're not going to have everyone score 30 points and be an all around good player. Where are the guys to do the dirty work...rebound, block shots. Intimidate will say it again. On this team Waters can be effective for stretches and Tacko can be effective in limiting 2nd chane points. This isn't a deep team and they couldn't do any worse than what we see now.

I have watched a ton of basketball, pro and college, and I have to question your ability to judge talent if you think Tacko and Waters can provide anything positive to this team.

Also, neither player can play in the playoffs so the team is better served playing players that could help in the playoffs.

Every second you play Tacko is time that could go to Timelord to get him back to being someone to be counted on in the playoffs. Minutes given to Waters would be minutes Romeo could have to continue to develop him and prepare him for possible playoff minutes.

Simply put, neither Tacko or Waters are good enough to help this year. Not on this team. Perhaps next year they will be NBA ready for the C's or some other team. But this year, that isn't happening.

[Donoghus]

Going out on a limb here but anybody who is posting on basketball message board on a regular basis is probably watching a lot of basketball.

Just a hunch.

[GreenFaith1819]

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Cites Tacko Fall as a competent bench player, for his defense, and rebounding, then proceeds to say Rodman/Jones, (two of the best defenders, hustle & rebounding guys, plus Hall of Famers,) aren't HoF worthy...

So which one is it?

Wait, we are playing Grant as a 6'8 center and you'll are telling me that Tacko can't provide 5-10 minutes a game at 7'3? Have you'll seen Boban?? The Rockets wouldn't have been able to get a rebound with Tacko in the game.

As for Waters, did you'll ever see Ty Lue or Bogues play?

I hate this analytics basketball because it takes away from specialty players that can change momentum of a game. With analytics back in the day Ben Wallace, Rodman or Bobby Jones wouldn't be in the HOF. Cmon guys

Could you explain the bolded, please? Don't want to jump to conclusions..

But as for Tacko time, I trust CBS. He's a pretty good judge of when a player's ready.

Those are some terrible takes.

Tacko Fall is not NBA caliber.

You probably haven't watched much basketball. My point is those guys were specialists. In the game to do one thing well. You're not going to have everyone score 30 points and be an all around good player. Where are the guys to do the dirty work...rebound, block shots. Intimidate will say it again. On this team Waters can be effective for stretches and Tacko can be effective in limiting 2nd chane points. This isn't a deep team and they couldn't do any worse than what we see now.

I see your point, Green, but I still trust CBS.

I learned way back in 2013-14 (or was it 15?) that if Brad Stevens could turn Jordan Crawford into a STARTER in BOS then we had a special coach.

He saw talent, maximized it and the rest is history.

He is STILL doing it to this day.

Jayson Tatum is Brad Stevens' feather in his cap....IT4 was an MVP runner up.....Jaylen Brown is developing quite nicely...Kemba has maintained his ASG talent even in BOS....Kyrie IMPROVED (I think) in BOS....Smart has turned into our KG....Kelly O practically played his way OUT of BOS into a new contract in MIA...

Dude can coach...one of the best, IMO....we can't get caught up in whether CBS yells or screams at his players OR shows much emotion. That is not him.

As for Tacko? Just gotta trust the process.