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Title: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: stb on February 13, 2018, 09:02:50 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2018/02/12/paul-pierce-wasnt-upset-ray-allen-skipped-ceremony/110350852/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomnba-topstories
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: manl_lui on February 13, 2018, 09:06:10 AM
i actually really wanted Ray Allen to attend but it is what it is, if Paul Pierce can move on, so should we
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: liam on February 13, 2018, 09:29:30 AM
Ray, who?
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2018, 09:30:12 AM
i actually really wanted Ray Allen to attend but it is what it is, if Paul Pierce can move on, so should we

The real champion was there. KG. rondo was also. good job rajon. 
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
Ray, who?

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: CelticsElite on February 13, 2018, 09:32:25 AM
Felt like he is just saying that for tv. Bet KG or rondo haven't made amends with Ray.

Also the fans noticed rays absence
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: alley oop on February 13, 2018, 09:51:22 AM
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Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: aefgogreen on February 13, 2018, 10:20:05 AM
I'm instituting the Bill Maher rule that if the person at the center of it isn't offended, we shouldn't be.  I do admit the instagram was passive aggressive.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Tr1boy on February 13, 2018, 10:26:43 AM
Ray is a classless act

One strange and sensitive person

The bottom line is he couldnt be there for Paul bc Rondo, KG, Ainge etc were there.

Its all about his comfort...really selfish dude
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Roy H. on February 13, 2018, 08:57:28 PM
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trayfourWhat we did in 2008 was special! Not only by Boston standards but by professional sports standards. The truth is, without any one of us on that team we would’ve never been able to do the unthinkable. Going from last place in one year to winning a championship is unfathomable. But, we did it! WE did it- Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, P.J. Brown, Sam Cassell, Glen Davis, Eddie House, Kendrick Perkins, Scott Pollard, James Posey, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Brian Scalabrine, Doc, Danny, everyone at the Celtics Organization, our wives, children, families, the Fans in The City of Boston and yes, me. Over the last few years I have been berated, lambasted and had my name smeared. You may not want to hear this, but I will always be a Celtic. (Fact). I will always cherish the bonds that I shared with all of my teammates and the people in the city of Boston. (Truth). We all gave everything we had. We all won and we all raised the 2008 NBA Championship banner together. (Ubuntu) Paul Pierce is the first guy that welcomed Kevin and me with open arms into his atmosphere from day one and we never looked back. Paul and I have spoken about our time together as teammates- going to battle night after night knowing we could count on one another and we have also talked about my decision to leave during free agency- a choice I made for my family. Despite what you may have heard or read or what is rumored- there is nothing but love. Paul and I are more interested in building bridges than putting up walls. To Paul, number 34, Congratulations on having your number raised up to the rafters. I salute you for your commitment to the city of Boston and to us the 2008 NBA Champions #thetruth

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfJ3QGnHbia/

Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: KGs Knee on February 13, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
I'm instituting the Bill Maher rule that if the person at the center of it isn't offended, we shouldn't be.  I do admit the instagram was passive aggressive.

I absolutely detest Bill Maher, who is a first class scumbag.

But, yeah, if Pierce is good, than so am I.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Eja117 on February 13, 2018, 09:02:26 PM
Of course not. Why would a Celtics guy care if a Miami Heat guy wasn't there? Lebron wasn't there either and neither was Udonis Haslem.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: CelticD on February 13, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
Is that catfish guy still stalking Ray Allen? Could be a reason why he didn't show up.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 13, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
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trayfourWhat we did in 2008 was special! Not only by Boston standards but by professional sports standards. The truth is, without any one of us on that team we would’ve never been able to do the unthinkable. Going from last place in one year to winning a championship is unfathomable. But, we did it! WE did it- Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, P.J. Brown, Sam Cassell, Glen Davis, Eddie House, Kendrick Perkins, Scott Pollard, James Posey, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Brian Scalabrine, Doc, Danny, everyone at the Celtics Organization, our wives, children, families, the Fans in The City of Boston and yes, me. Over the last few years I have been berated, lambasted and had my name smeared. You may not want to hear this, but I will always be a Celtic. (Fact). I will always cherish the bonds that I shared with all of my teammates and the people in the city of Boston. (Truth). We all gave everything we had. We all won and we all raised the 2008 NBA Championship banner together. (Ubuntu) Paul Pierce is the first guy that welcomed Kevin and me with open arms into his atmosphere from day one and we never looked back. Paul and I have spoken about our time together as teammates- going to battle night after night knowing we could count on one another and we have also talked about my decision to leave during free agency- a choice I made for my family. Despite what you may have heard or read or what is rumored- there is nothing but love. Paul and I are more interested in building bridges than putting up walls. To Paul, number 34, Congratulations on having your number raised up to the rafters. I salute you for your commitment to the city of Boston and to us the 2008 NBA Champions #thetruth

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfJ3QGnHbia/
Don't hate Ray, but this instagram is way more about trying to defend to fans than it is about congratulating Paul Pierce.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Ogaju on February 13, 2018, 09:47:24 PM
cant blame the guy for trying, but PP rafter was about more than 2008. Ray either does not understand that point, or is trying to avoid it. PP number retirement is more about commitment to the organization shown by PP. It is that commitment that was lacking in Ray's decision to leave in free agency to the team's main rival at the time.

I am sure that the bad blood would probably not exist if Ray had gone to another team, or if he had not been so successful with the Heat.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: mr. dee on February 13, 2018, 11:08:19 PM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: blink on February 14, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
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trayfourWhat we did in 2008 was special! Not only by Boston standards but by professional sports standards. The truth is, without any one of us on that team we would’ve never been able to do the unthinkable. Going from last place in one year to winning a championship is unfathomable. But, we did it! WE did it- Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, P.J. Brown, Sam Cassell, Glen Davis, Eddie House, Kendrick Perkins, Scott Pollard, James Posey, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Brian Scalabrine, Doc, Danny, everyone at the Celtics Organization, our wives, children, families, the Fans in The City of Boston and yes, me. Over the last few years I have been berated, lambasted and had my name smeared. You may not want to hear this, but I will always be a Celtic. (Fact). I will always cherish the bonds that I shared with all of my teammates and the people in the city of Boston. (Truth). We all gave everything we had. We all won and we all raised the 2008 NBA Championship banner together. (Ubuntu) Paul Pierce is the first guy that welcomed Kevin and me with open arms into his atmosphere from day one and we never looked back. Paul and I have spoken about our time together as teammates- going to battle night after night knowing we could count on one another and we have also talked about my decision to leave during free agency- a choice I made for my family. Despite what you may have heard or read or what is rumored- there is nothing but love. Paul and I are more interested in building bridges than putting up walls. To Paul, number 34, Congratulations on having your number raised up to the rafters. I salute you for your commitment to the city of Boston and to us the 2008 NBA Champions #thetruth

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfJ3QGnHbia/
Don't hate Ray, but this instagram is way more about trying to defend to fans than it is about congratulating Paul Pierce.

I agree 100%.  If Ray really wanted to support Paul, he could have just shown up, that would say a whole lot more than the double speak defensiveness of his instagram post.  Yuck, if you are going to say anything, just say congrats.

Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Tr1boy on February 14, 2018, 12:32:08 AM
He was upset Tony wasnt there though

Was kendrick there?

Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 14, 2018, 02:06:39 AM
i actually really wanted Ray Allen to attend but it is what it is, if Paul Pierce can move on, so should we

THIS - 1000 times and TWICE on Sundays.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: bopna on February 14, 2018, 02:09:59 AM
Who the F cares about Ray. The man helped Lechoke win a ring and for that he will be immortalized by Wyc and co. By guving him the finger...
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: GreenEnvy on February 14, 2018, 03:56:52 AM
Of course not. Why would a Celtics guy care if a Miami Heat guy wasn't there? Lebron wasn't there either and neither was Udonis Haslem.

I felt it was a little odd that LeBron was in the building (Lue and Possy sat there for it so you know they didn’t fly right out) but couldn’t even have a video congratulating him. They went h2h in the playoffs what, four times? They were pretty significant rivals and if Magic and Kobe can congratulate him, LeBron certainly could have.

That’s LeBron for ya, I guess.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: JBcat on February 14, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.

Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Squigs on February 14, 2018, 07:47:00 AM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.

Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.

Agreed.   Same with Posey really -- he was already there coaching with the Cavs, so he just stayed.  I actually expected more of a turnout from the C's.  Like Eddie House..  Was really hoping Bird came to it or sent a message to be played.  (unless he did a message and I missed it)
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: manl_lui on February 14, 2018, 08:58:37 AM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.

Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.

Agreed.   Same with Posey really -- he was already there coaching with the Cavs, so he just stayed.  I actually expected more of a turnout from the C's.  Like Eddie House..  Was really hoping Bird came to it or sent a message to be played.  (unless he did a message and I missed it)

iirc Eddie House hates the Celtics for trading him to NY and he went to Miami just to stick it to the Celtics when Lebron formed his big 3 there? or am i thinking about something else
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Roy H. on February 14, 2018, 09:11:30 AM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.

Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.

Agreed.   Same with Posey really -- he was already there coaching with the Cavs, so he just stayed.  I actually expected more of a turnout from the C's.  Like Eddie House..  Was really hoping Bird came to it or sent a message to be played.  (unless he did a message and I missed it)

iirc Eddie House hates the Celtics for trading him to NY and he went to Miami just to stick it to the Celtics when Lebron formed his big 3 there? or am i thinking about something else

Interesting. I’ve never heard the House bad blood.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Donoghus on February 14, 2018, 09:14:08 AM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.

Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.

Agreed.   Same with Posey really -- he was already there coaching with the Cavs, so he just stayed.  I actually expected more of a turnout from the C's.  Like Eddie House..  Was really hoping Bird came to it or sent a message to be played.  (unless he did a message and I missed it)

iirc Eddie House hates the Celtics for trading him to NY and he went to Miami just to stick it to the Celtics when Lebron formed his big 3 there? or am i thinking about something else

Interesting. I’ve never heard the House bad blood.

Neither have I.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: droopdog7 on February 14, 2018, 09:35:44 AM
Isn’t it much better that Ray was not there?  I mean, had he been there he most definitely would have distracted from PP’s moment right?  Perhaps ray actually thought if that.  I know I did.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: timpiker on February 14, 2018, 09:42:58 AM
It was a nice tribute to PP from Traitor Ray but the comment about being criticized was out of place.  If he had been there I think he'd have been booed out of the building.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Donoghus on February 14, 2018, 09:48:41 AM
People on this board are way too hung up on Ray Allen.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: Squigs on February 14, 2018, 12:31:37 PM
It's easy to say  you're always a Celtic, but you don't have the actions to prove it. Even guys with lesser roles like Leon Powe, or Walter McCarthy who didn't even won with the team bleeds more green than Ray. They personify what it means to be a celtic. They don't complain with their roles or felt bitter about it.

I don't see any sincerity with his post, just a shallow sweet talk.


Not that I’m defending Ray but both Walter (assistant coach) and Leon (some role with the organization) are employees of the Celtics so they were already there anyway.

Agreed.   Same with Posey really -- he was already there coaching with the Cavs, so he just stayed.  I actually expected more of a turnout from the C's.  Like Eddie House..  Was really hoping Bird came to it or sent a message to be played.  (unless he did a message and I missed it)

iirc Eddie House hates the Celtics for trading him to NY and he went to Miami just to stick it to the Celtics when Lebron formed his big 3 there? or am i thinking about something else

Maybe..  I have not heard that.  However, even if true, its about Paul and his accomplishments, not necessarily the Organization. 
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: celticinorlando on February 14, 2018, 12:55:21 PM
I think Ray taking less money from the Heat to leave Boston will always follow him and created a huge divide.

But his jump shot is poetry in motion
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: hpantazo on February 14, 2018, 01:13:58 PM
I think Ray taking less money from the Heat to leave Boston will always follow him and created a huge divide.

But his jump shot is poetry in motion

If his family wanted to live in Miami instead of having the risk that they could end up in places like Memphis or Cleveland at any moment from a trade though, then I understand. He had already made a lot of money and had won a ring, working in a city that his family is happy with and having more
assurance of not being traded would be reasonable
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: green_bballers13 on February 14, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
I think Ray taking less money from the Heat to leave Boston will always follow him and created a huge divide.

But his jump shot is poetry in motion

I still don't blame Ray Ray. The Celtics were aging and Miami was more talented. Ray isn't a Celtics fan like us- he was an NBA player. If Pierce can grow up in LA and play in Boston, Ray can play anywhere he wants. Even if it upset Celtics fans. I still think fans were soft for not understanding that he would want to play in a better situation.
Title: Re: Paul Pierce wasn't upset Ray Allen skipped ceremony
Post by: kozlodoev on February 14, 2018, 01:26:25 PM
I think Ray taking less money from the Heat to leave Boston will always follow him and created a huge divide.

But his jump shot is poetry in motion

If his family wanted to live in Miami instead of having the risk that they could end up in places like Memphis or Cleveland at any moment from a trade though, then I understand. He had already made a lot of money and had won a ring, working in a city that his family is happy with and having more
assurance of not being traded would be reasonable
Well, Ray had a no-trade clause on the table, so it's not that.

http://www.espn.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8552139/ray-allen-left-boston-celtics-no-trade-clause-table