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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: Eddie20 on January 09, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
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"I'm still trying to be very optimistic that he'll be able to play, I just don't know when," Scott said. "I miss him every day. But I'm hoping I'm not talking like it's long-term or for the season, or anything like that. I'm still optimistic that he'll be able to play this year until the doctors tell me something different."
If he does have a quad tear as Brazilian media has reported, then the Cavs just failed to sell high...again. They could've had Amare, but balked when Phoenix wanted Hickson.
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Ouch!!! Seems like Varejo always has a injury
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That's awful news.
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Again? My god. That injury-prone tag is going to be hard to shift now.
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On the plus side, this is good news for Cleveland. Losing Varejao will cost them pointless victories and help them improve their lottery position.
They should be a near-certainty for another top five pick now.
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On the plus side, this is good news for Cleveland. Losing Varejao will cost them pointless victories and help them improve their lottery position.
They should be a near-certainty for another top five pick now.
Who are top 5 pick in this year draft anyways? I just dont see a superstar..maybe Shabazz mohamend
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I don't believe that the Cavs passed on Amar'e for Hickson, I think Suns passed on that trade.
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Again? My god. That injury-prone tag is going to be hard to shift now.
Yeah, that's four years in a row now right?
In 09-10 he was hobbled and couldn't play big minutes versus the C's irrc. (only 23 MPG compared to 30 MPG in 08-09) Though he lasted the whole regular season just fine that year,.
Since then he has played 31 games, 25 games, and 25 games.
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I heard 6-8 weeks. Which puts it really close to the trade deadline (which is about 6 weeks away I believe).
At the very least, his trade value just took a huge hit.
I am a little relieved actually. I was afraid Danny would panic and pay a premium for Varajao, and then have him miss key parts of the playoff run.
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On the plus side, this is good news for Cleveland. Losing Varejao will cost them pointless victories and help them improve their lottery position.
They should be a near-certainty for another top five pick now.
Who are top 5 pick in this year draft anyways? I just dont see a superstar..maybe Shabazz mohamend
They may not need a superstar, per se, since they already have Irving. They just need to continue building around him and hope that 2 of Zeller, Waiters, Thompson, and next year's pick blossom into very good players.
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If he does have a quad tear as Brazilian media has reported, then the Cavs just failed to sell high...again. They could've had Amare, but balked when Phoenix wanted Hickson.
Bolded is why I never blame LeBron for leaving. They didn't do it and then they didn't play Hickson, who was playing very well for them, at all in the playoffs. Joke. Absolutely ridiculous.
Anyways,
Yes. Should have traded him high. He's a good player of course but he's the type of player that doesn't help this team much. Might as well give Zeller and Thompson as much PT as possible and tank for lotto picks.
On the plus side, this is good news for Cleveland. Losing Varejao will cost them pointless victories and help them improve their lottery position.
They should be a near-certainty for another top five pick now.
Who are top 5 pick in this year draft anyways? I just dont see a superstar..maybe Shabazz mohamend
Cody Zeller should be a top pick. His game will translate very well to the NBA, where PGs know how to get a big the ball.
If you had both the Zeller brothers you would have some of the most mobile bigs in the NBA. Legit 7 footers too.
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Bolded is why I never blame LeBron for leaving.
I just blame him for the unnecessary dog-and-pony show.
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Bolded is why I never blame LeBron for leaving.
I just blame him for the unnecessary dog-and-pony show.
Yeah we are totally in agreement there.
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Good news is this means one less player that we have to read about bogus trade rumors for.
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As others have said, this will help Cleveland tank for much needed talent.
However, it's a shame to see a guy who was playing so well miss the rest of the season. He could have been a major factor for some team in the post-season if the Cavs finally traded him. And the Cavs could have gotten some decent value for him by selling high.
Definitely seemed like Sideshow is injury prone though.
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Did cleveland really need help tanking? Seems like they were doing a fine job with Varejao doing that.
Also I don't think Varejao has ever really been healthy. Just look at the numbers. Especially given the low amount of.minutes he has played.
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His value will never be what it was this past season. Blown opportunity for Cleveland.
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His value will never be what it was this past season. Blown opportunity for Cleveland.
YUp...glade DA didn't panic , maybe he can still be had as alot cheaper down the road.
Long as its not an ACL ..he'll be back and probally strong as ever.
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Did cleveland really need help tanking? Seems like they were doing a fine job with Varejao doing that.
It really is shocking that team with Kyrie + Varejao isn't winning more games.
Their supporting cast is absolutely atrocious but you'd still think a team with those two should get the team more wins than they have been able to get. Underperforming.
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Did cleveland really need help tanking? Seems like they were doing a fine job with Varejao doing that.
It really is shocking that team with Kyrie + Varejao isn't winning more games.
Their supporting cast is absolutely atrocious but you'd still think a team with those two should get the team more wins than they have been able to get. Underperforming.
Me too. Although as we have seen with the C's, talent isn't everything. There needs to be chemistry and something to pull the team together. Even with the talent Cleveland has, they have looked like a bunch of guys playing in a pickup game or something.
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reduces Sideshow Bob's trade value but probably drives up Gortat's value as the other primary center supposedly on the market
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Am I th only one who think he isnt injuried?
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Did cleveland really need help tanking? Seems like they were doing a fine job with Varejao doing that.
It really is shocking that team with Kyrie + Varejao isn't winning more games.
Their supporting cast is absolutely atrocious but you'd still think a team with those two should get the team more wins than they have been able to get. Underperforming.
I read a breakdown on Fear the Sword about how they are truly awful at transition defense, even when they have players in position.
I wonder if overall coaching and details like that are unravelling them.
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Am I the only one who think he isnt injuried?
This arent injuried man stats to me
2012-13 CLE 25 36:00 mpg 47.8FG 75.5 FT 14.4 REBOUNDS 14.1 PPG
and every game he comes back he grab like 20 rebounds then 14 then 10 then 8 ( demotivated )
maybe
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Am I th only one who think he isnt injuried?
Probably. Not sure why he would fake surgery. It really hurts the team, because they lose their key trade asset and their second best player, and doesn't help him much either, but solidifying his reputation as an injury prone player.
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Am I th only one who think he isnt injuried?
Yeah. What would the reason be?
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Cavs should have traded him while they could - too bad for him and them
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Am I th only one who think he isnt injuried?
Probably. Not sure why he would fake surgery. It really hurts the team, because they lose their key trade asset and their second best player, and doesn't help him much either, but solidifying his reputation as an injury prone player.
I get this.... but why to play?
they are not winning with or without him
hes probably resting an old injury only
I could not blame him for that
see Pierce/elbow
then come back to be in a championship contender next year.
I mean why not
he always deliver BIG in international competitions too during summer.
He will find his value on the open market.
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Varejao To Undergo Surgery On Right Knee, Miss 6-8 Weeks
Realgm.com
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Am I th only one who think he isnt injuried?
Probably. Not sure why he would fake surgery. It really hurts the team, because they lose their key trade asset and their second best player, and doesn't help him much either, but solidifying his reputation as an injury prone player.
I get this.... but why to play?
they are not winning with or without him
hes probably resting an old injury only
I could not blame him for that
see Pierce/elbow
then come back to be in a championship contender next year.
I mean why not
he always deliver BIG in international competitions too during summer.
He will find his value on the open market.
Well, he isn't a free agent. He is locked up for a couple years in Cleveland. So, if he wants to go to a contender, continuing to perform leading up to the trade deadline, so a contender would pay up for him, was his best chance.
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reduces Sideshow Bob's trade value but probably drives up Gortat's value as the other primary center supposedly on the market
Tp
Any possible available centers just got a bit more expensive
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I wonder if someone would still deal for him even though he is injured...
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I wonder if someone would still deal for him even though he is injured...
DA would...he risked Shaq , and all those old players , DA would , he likes deals like this ....Maybe he can get 2-3 really good years left in the guy. He'd gamble. For a decent price.
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If he starts out next season playing completely healthy and just as well as he has been in the past few seasons (when healthy), his trade value will probably be the same. It's not like this injury means he should be evaluated as more injury-prone than he has been in the past.
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well It wasnt that false
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/10/cavaliers-varejao-surgery.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Wow, Jordan and Bledsoe? So basically the Cavs don't really want to trade Varejao.
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Wow, Jordan and Bledsoe? So basically the Cavs don't really want to trade Varejao.
While I think AV is very good and worth a good amount when healthy... that's ludicrous!
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Yeah, that's asking for two really valuable young players for a 30 year old with injury issues who has been an energy guy most of his career, albeit a very productive one.
Definitely a crazy asking price.
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Yeah, that's asking for two really valuable young players for a 30 year old with injury issues who has been an energy guy most of his career, albeit a very productive one.
Definitely a crazy asking price.
And that's why the Cavs are the Cavs. Jordan would've been more than fair value.
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Yeah, that's asking for two really valuable young players for a 30 year old with injury issues who has been an energy guy most of his career, albeit a very productive one.
Definitely a crazy asking price.
And that's why the Cavs are the Cavs. Jordan would've been more than fair value.
First, it's Vecsey, so it's probably unreliable.
Second, Varejao is significantly better than Jordan. I don't blame them for asking for a lot in their opening offer, with the idea that they'd be flexible. If you put your best offer on the table initially, there's no room for negotiation.
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Anderson Varejao recently developed a blood clot in his lung and is out for the season.
A bad break gets worse for Varejao, who is now officially done for the season, according to the Cavs. Varejao just had surgery for a small split in his right quad, and he is expected to remain at the Cleveland Clinic to be treated and monitored. The good news is that he's expected to make a full recovery. This locks Tristan Thompson and Tyler Zeller in as the starting frontcourt for the remainder of the season. Thompson is averaging 10.3 points, 9.3 rebounds, 0.8 steals and 0.7 blocks as the starting power forward, while Zeller is averaging 10.3 points, 7.4 rebounds and 1.6 blocks as the starting center.
Source: NBA.com Jan 21 - 11:12 AM
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He's done.
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as much as I despise Sideshow Bob for his time with Bron, I always respected his hustle (and would have loved to have him on our team). hope he makes a full recovery.
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Peter Vecsey reported this week that Cleveland told the Clippers it would take DeAndre Jordan and prized reserve guard Eric Bledsoe to get him.
Crazy asking price for Varejao. The Celtics never had a chance.
Yeah, that's asking for two really valuable young players for a 30 year old with injury issues who has been an energy guy most of his career, albeit a very productive one.
Definitely a crazy asking price.
And that's why the Cavs are the Cavs. Jordan would've been more than fair value.
First, it's Vecsey, so it's probably unreliable.
Second, Varejao is significantly better than Jordan. I don't blame them for asking for a lot in their opening offer, with the idea that they'd be flexible. If you put your best offer on the table initially, there's no room for negotiation.
Significantly better?...mmmm rather have Jordan myself