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It's interesting that Ainge is "linked" to walker discussions.If Ainge wants him, I take it seriously.Anyway, I am still grumpy after a season with a volume shooting point guard. I suppose, because it didn't work at all. With Walker it might work really well and thus, I remain on the fence. Have to be happy get him as NBA teams need points.Interested that Ainge, an Auerbach disciple, would again, go spend a ton of money on a point guard. I saw the reason for taking Irving from the Cavs and accepting the risk.Wondering about front court and lack of same. In the playoffs, point guards can and do get shut down. This year's playoffs showed us a few examples of this phenomena.I'll pass on Walker for now, but, Ainge doesn't return my texts and how could a Celtic fan not be happy to get a great scorer.
Quote from: Silky on June 26, 2019, 11:43:25 AMQuote from: aingeforthree on June 26, 2019, 11:39:25 AMQuote from: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2019, 11:24:53 AMQuote from: Green-18 on June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.So who can we get if we sign Kemba? There are also rumors that we are looking to trade for Steve Adams, so could we do that without giving up much? Supposedly OKC is looking for a salary dump and ownership has said they would be willing to go over the cap and pay the tax. I'm thinking if we could we'd look something like:PG: Kemba WalkerSG: Jaylen BrownSF: Jason TatumPF: Grant Williams (given all the hype hes been getting on this board maybe he should start)C: Steve Adams BenchPG: Marcus SmartSG: Romeo LangfordSF: Gordon HaywardPF: Robert Williams C: Vincent Poirier (French Euro league Big we've been linked to)Back end of the bench towel swingersCarson EdwardsTacko FallAaron HarrisonI think Smart starts, no question. The Draymond Green type intangibles need to be on the floor at all times. He’s too valuable, and even more so if you have an offensive firepower next to him like Walker.I truly believe that Brown is on the chopping block. Too much of a logjam at that position and they know full well that the front court needs more talent.I think Ainge gets someone who isn’t even being talked about on this board. Who will it be ? It’s wide open. Who knows.there are only a couple of centers in the league that allow for a SF to be fulltime PF.Adams is one.so you would look atKembaSmartBrownTatumAdamsbench ofEdwardsLangfordHaywardWilliamsWilliamsSilky, that team looks very nice. TP. I'd love it if this is where we land.
Quote from: aingeforthree on June 26, 2019, 11:39:25 AMQuote from: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2019, 11:24:53 AMQuote from: Green-18 on June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.So who can we get if we sign Kemba? There are also rumors that we are looking to trade for Steve Adams, so could we do that without giving up much? Supposedly OKC is looking for a salary dump and ownership has said they would be willing to go over the cap and pay the tax. I'm thinking if we could we'd look something like:PG: Kemba WalkerSG: Jaylen BrownSF: Jason TatumPF: Grant Williams (given all the hype hes been getting on this board maybe he should start)C: Steve Adams BenchPG: Marcus SmartSG: Romeo LangfordSF: Gordon HaywardPF: Robert Williams C: Vincent Poirier (French Euro league Big we've been linked to)Back end of the bench towel swingersCarson EdwardsTacko FallAaron HarrisonI think Smart starts, no question. The Draymond Green type intangibles need to be on the floor at all times. He’s too valuable, and even more so if you have an offensive firepower next to him like Walker.I truly believe that Brown is on the chopping block. Too much of a logjam at that position and they know full well that the front court needs more talent.I think Ainge gets someone who isn’t even being talked about on this board. Who will it be ? It’s wide open. Who knows.there are only a couple of centers in the league that allow for a SF to be fulltime PF.Adams is one.so you would look atKembaSmartBrownTatumAdamsbench ofEdwardsLangfordHaywardWilliamsWilliams
Quote from: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2019, 11:24:53 AMQuote from: Green-18 on June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.So who can we get if we sign Kemba? There are also rumors that we are looking to trade for Steve Adams, so could we do that without giving up much? Supposedly OKC is looking for a salary dump and ownership has said they would be willing to go over the cap and pay the tax. I'm thinking if we could we'd look something like:PG: Kemba WalkerSG: Jaylen BrownSF: Jason TatumPF: Grant Williams (given all the hype hes been getting on this board maybe he should start)C: Steve Adams BenchPG: Marcus SmartSG: Romeo LangfordSF: Gordon HaywardPF: Robert Williams C: Vincent Poirier (French Euro league Big we've been linked to)Back end of the bench towel swingersCarson EdwardsTacko FallAaron HarrisonI think Smart starts, no question. The Draymond Green type intangibles need to be on the floor at all times. He’s too valuable, and even more so if you have an offensive firepower next to him like Walker.I truly believe that Brown is on the chopping block. Too much of a logjam at that position and they know full well that the front court needs more talent.I think Ainge gets someone who isn’t even being talked about on this board. Who will it be ? It’s wide open. Who knows.
Quote from: Green-18 on June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.So who can we get if we sign Kemba? There are also rumors that we are looking to trade for Steve Adams, so could we do that without giving up much? Supposedly OKC is looking for a salary dump and ownership has said they would be willing to go over the cap and pay the tax. I'm thinking if we could we'd look something like:PG: Kemba WalkerSG: Jaylen BrownSF: Jason TatumPF: Grant Williams (given all the hype hes been getting on this board maybe he should start)C: Steve Adams BenchPG: Marcus SmartSG: Romeo LangfordSF: Gordon HaywardPF: Robert Williams C: Vincent Poirier (French Euro league Big we've been linked to)Back end of the bench towel swingersCarson EdwardsTacko FallAaron Harrison
Quote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.
Danny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.
I'm gonna be honest, I think there is a functionally zero percent chance Kemba comes here. If he want the most money, he goes to Charlotte. If he wants to go home or be the guy maybe the Knicks. If he wants a title or yo be part of history the Lakers. If he wants to join an up and comer he can go to Dallas. The argument for Boston is they have young talent, and he is a good fit. But he be joining a team that got stomped in the second round WITH Horford. I just dont see why he'd choose Boston, I get why he would listen but I can't see it. Now of course I'm not Kemba Walker, so who knows. But I think this is one if those things where ya, Boston is interested. But its gonna be the classic "Boston was soooooo close."
Maybe Malcolm Brogdon is the better, cheaper fit. I think the Hornets give Kemba the Supermax.
Quote from: CBS_Take a Report on June 26, 2019, 11:57:32 AMQuote from: Silky on June 26, 2019, 11:43:25 AMQuote from: aingeforthree on June 26, 2019, 11:39:25 AMQuote from: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2019, 11:24:53 AMQuote from: Green-18 on June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AMDanny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba. Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.So who can we get if we sign Kemba? There are also rumors that we are looking to trade for Steve Adams, so could we do that without giving up much? Supposedly OKC is looking for a salary dump and ownership has said they would be willing to go over the cap and pay the tax. I'm thinking if we could we'd look something like:PG: Kemba WalkerSG: Jaylen BrownSF: Jason TatumPF: Grant Williams (given all the hype hes been getting on this board maybe he should start)C: Steve Adams BenchPG: Marcus SmartSG: Romeo LangfordSF: Gordon HaywardPF: Robert Williams C: Vincent Poirier (French Euro league Big we've been linked to)Back end of the bench towel swingersCarson EdwardsTacko FallAaron HarrisonI think Smart starts, no question. The Draymond Green type intangibles need to be on the floor at all times. He’s too valuable, and even more so if you have an offensive firepower next to him like Walker.I truly believe that Brown is on the chopping block. Too much of a logjam at that position and they know full well that the front court needs more talent.I think Ainge gets someone who isn’t even being talked about on this board. Who will it be ? It’s wide open. Who knows.there are only a couple of centers in the league that allow for a SF to be fulltime PF.Adams is one.so you would look atKembaSmartBrownTatumAdamsbench ofEdwardsLangfordHaywardWilliamsWilliamsSilky, that team looks very nice. TP. I'd love it if this is where we land.It's also impossible to happen since the team doesn't have enough cap space to absorb Adams and sign Kemba. It's either one or the other with the cap space the team has...not both.
If we sign Kemba then I hope we end up trading Brown for a legit big like a Capella or Adams or Drummond or something who can cover up Tatum’s weak rebounding. Do we still have MLE if we have cap space? I haven’t checked any salaries but assuming it’s someone like Adams, then we’d haveKemba-Smart-Hayward-Tatum-AdamsThat’s a fairly strong team imo. We have one star prospect in Tatum instead of 2 so we know the future of our franchise. We have current stars both mature enough to sacrifice in Walker and Hayward. And we have amazing, nitty gritty role players that every contender needs in Smart and Adams.
Without regard to a specific trade, if the Celtics were able to work out a S&T with Horford’s new team, they could use his new salary in a 3-way trade in which they acquired Walker. This would allow them to use the MLE and BAE instead of the room exception, as well as preserve Bird rights to Rozier and Morris. If it took a second rounder going to each of those teams, it could be worth it in terms of getting starter-level taken at the 4 and/or 5 via those exceptions..
“He understands the New England passion,” said Calhoun. “When we’d get to the Sweet 16 we’d usually be the only New England team remaining. So we sort of were adopted by New England. Trust me, he understands how important winning is up here."
“Kemba is a winner. He is a winner,” repeated Calhoun. “He won in high school. His AAU team was incredible. He was on two Final Four teams with us.“He’s already proven he’s a great player and he’s going to be a very wealthy man wherever he goes. But he wants to win. He wants to compete for a championship.”
https://www.eagletribune.com/sports/national_sports/boston-will-love-kemba-former-uconn-coach-jim-calhoun-says/article_303c5424-7980-5891-919f-20e31868c87b.htmlSorry if this has been posted but I cant stress enough how much better this interview with Jim Calhoun made me feel about signing Kemba.The way I see it Boston is the best fit because...1. Kemba lost his first all star appearance to IT4 despite playing as well if not better. I think Kemba has proven that he's a better player than Isaiah so put him in Brad's system and watch him go to work.2. Hayward originally signed to play with Kemba in Charlotte before it was matched by Utah. You'd imagine Kemba still has respect for Hayward's game.3. New England Pride. Quote“He understands the New England passion,” said Calhoun. “When we’d get to the Sweet 16 we’d usually be the only New England team remaining. So we sort of were adopted by New England. Trust me, he understands how important winning is up here."4. His role would not change. He would be the first option/closer here which he might not get to be in Dallas or LA. Kemba will slide right into our rotation being flanked by upgrades at basically every position compared to what he had in Charlotte.I leave coach Calhoun with the final word.Quote“Kemba is a winner. He is a winner,” repeated Calhoun. “He won in high school. His AAU team was incredible. He was on two Final Four teams with us.“He’s already proven he’s a great player and he’s going to be a very wealthy man wherever he goes. But he wants to win. He wants to compete for a championship.”
Is anyone on here terrified by the possibility of Kemba joing the Sixers ?In theory they can go with :embiid , Simmons , Kemba , Butler , Thybulle and MLE playerOr Embiid , Simmons, Kemba , Harris , redick, plus rookie contracts plus MLE playerThe first option is scarier
and for those of you who like to pay attention to dreams, hopes, and fantasies...Current Kemba Walker destination likelihood order, per league source: 1. Boston 2. Charlotte 3. Dallas (definitely in the mix, with Lakers) Somewhere down the line: New York --Brad Towsend, Dallas Morning Newshttps://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1143944349849460737but sometimes dreams become real.