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Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 02:53:48 PM »

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Agreed!!
I think the way the media decided to completely ignore pre-merger basketball to enhance the streak's importance historically is notable.

Similar to how the current NFL just ignores all championships before they rebranded it as the "superbowl".

I do think, however, that it is important to contextualize stats in historical periods. The specific dates of each era may be artificially concrete, but it is useful to acknowledge differences between eras.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2011, 02:59:54 PM »

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Agreed!!
I think the way the media decided to completely ignore pre-merger basketball to enhance the streak's importance historically is notable.

Similar to how the current NFL just ignores all championships before they rebranded it as the "superbowl".

I do think, however, that it is important to contextualize stats in historical periods. The specific dates of each era may be artificially concrete, but it is useful to acknowledge differences between eras.
Its useful when comparing players to each other, but when you're talking about it like its a record I think that falls apart.

Its like people talking about Kobe's 81 point game without mentioning Wilt's 100 point game at all. Except this conversation has gone on for a month.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 03:00:09 PM »

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The fact that Keving Love's numbers have enticed people to declare him the best player in the NBA.....

Yes.  I haven't seen that many Minny games, but it seems that he's pushing for the stats, e.g. aware of where his numbers stand during the game...need X more rebounds, etc.

His team is a loser, and he's stat-stuffing.  Wonder which team will overpay him down the road...

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2011, 03:01:32 PM »

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The fact that Keving Love's numbers have enticed people to declare him the best player in the NBA.....

Yes.  I haven't seen that many Minny games, but it seems that he's pushing for the stats, e.g. aware of where his numbers stand during the game...need X more rebounds, etc.

His team is a loser, and he's stat-stuffing.  Wonder which team will overpay him down the road...
His current team is apparently trying to get him to sign an 70 million dollar extension.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2011, 03:17:13 PM »

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Kevin Love's rebounding?  30-20's etc...

Double Double streak

Agreed!!
I think the way the media decided to completely ignore pre-merger basketball to enhance the streak's importance historically is notable.

Similar to how the current NFL just ignores all championships before they rebranded it as the "superbowl".

I do agree wih you, but some of the stats 'back in the day' were just weird. Oscar Robertson averaging a triple double and Wilt scoring 100 is ridiculous, but could either of those possibly be reached? I say a slight 'maybe'. His 55 rebound game seems untouchable, though. For me, that is the most impressive single game stat ever. Can you imagine anyone grabbing 55 rebounds in today's NBA?

Kevin Love obviously has impressive stats, but that is downplayed because of how terrible his team is. If you compare his rebounding to that of his peers, however, you have to go back to 2002-03 to find someone who has averaged over 15 rebounds a game (Ben Wallace).

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 03:35:26 PM »

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Agreed!!
I think the way the media decided to completely ignore pre-merger basketball to enhance the streak's importance historically is notable.

Similar to how the current NFL just ignores all championships before they rebranded it as the "superbowl".

I do think, however, that it is important to contextualize stats in historical periods. The specific dates of each era may be artificially concrete, but it is useful to acknowledge differences between eras.
Its useful when comparing players to each other, but when you're talking about it like its a record I think that falls apart.

Its like people talking about Kobe's 81 point game without mentioning Wilt's 100 point game at all. Except this conversation has gone on for a month.

Fair point. I think it would be interesting to see records expressed as standard differentiation/degree of outliers. In other words, a double-double streak of 100 games is less impressive if, in that same time span, there were other players with streaks of 90, 85, 88, etc. as compared to 30 years later, if there were a double double streak of 70 games (clearly not the record), but the other streaks in that time were 20, 25, 30, 20, etc.

I mean, the point of era contextualization is that sure, Wilt scored 100 points, but it was an era that allowed him to average 50+ ppg one year, right? So Kobe's 81 would not be as impressive if it were a league where a player was averaging 40 ppg. But no one has come close to that in a long time, so the 81 is quite an outlier.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 03:43:47 PM »

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Craziest stat goes to former Celtic James Posey.
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1pt:   9 / 12
2pt:  12 / 25
3pt:  61 / 189
That's crazy...88,3% of his field goal attempts were 3pointers...
Btw, 38,4% of Ray Allen's field goal atempts were 3pointers.
Worth some TP?  ;)
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Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2011, 02:36:33 PM »

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Craziest stat goes to former Celtic James Posey.
Posey 2010/11.
1pt:   9 / 12
2pt:  12 / 25
3pt:  61 / 189
That's crazy...88,3% of his field goal attempts were 3pointers...
Btw, 38,4% of Ray Allen's field goal atempts were 3pointers.
Worth some TP?  ;)

Agreed!  Nicely said!

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2011, 02:52:28 PM »

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1pt:   9 / 12
2pt:  12 / 25
3pt:  61 / 189
That's crazy...88,3% of his field goal attempts were 3pointers...
Btw, 38,4% of Ray Allen's field goal atempts were 3pointers.
Worth some TP?  ;)

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Re: Craziest stats of the season?
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Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2011, 03:25:31 PM »

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I have my doubts, I know it was bad but Kobe or someone else has probably done worse.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2011, 03:27:56 PM »

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I have my doubts, I know it was bad but Kobe or someone else has probably done worse.

Maybe but one of those bombs had an "ing" at the end and then the name of a female dog to go with it. How that did not get him thrown out is beyond me.

Re: Craziest stats of the season?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2011, 03:29:41 PM »

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I have my doubts, I know it was bad but Kobe or someone else has probably done worse.

Maybe but one of those bombs had an "ing" at the end and then the name of a female dog to go with it. How that did not get him thrown out is beyond me.
I know, maybe the Ref just assumed it was KG he was hearing from another side of the court.

Such direct disrespect usually gets the hook.

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2011, 03:38:23 PM »

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Re: Craziest stats of the season?
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I have my doubts, I know it was bad but Kobe or someone else has probably done worse.

Maybe but one of those bombs had an "ing" at the end and then the name of a female dog to go with it. How that did not get him thrown out is beyond me.
Maybe he threw in some of those Canadian "aaayyyy"s and the ref just didn't translate it in his head and saw it as more of a fudging question aaaaaayyyyy?