Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?

[JBcat]

Rozier played great last night, but was also matched up against Sexton who seems like a terrible weak defender.

[Phantom255x]

The year is 2025, Rozier has been a starting PG on another team for the past 5-6 years, and yet this thread still exists and is active 

[Androslav]

The year is 2025, Rozier has been a starting PG on another team for the past 5-6 years, and yet this thread still exists and is active 

Terry is 2 time MVP by then and is just finishing his 1st mandate in the White House.

[Big333223]

Ainge probably getting some calls this morning.

[slamtheking]

Ainge probably getting some calls this morning.

Yeah, Antoine's still p---ed over being traded to Dallas and been crankcalling Danny ever since

[Moranis]

Rozier played great last night, but was also matched up against Sexton who seems like a terrible weak defender.

Rozier just flat out plays much better when he starts. He just gets into a better rhythm and he stays there.

[indeedproceed]

Still here never left.



(but I do recognize he's been playing terribly this season)

[mef730]

His destiny seems to be to get traded and become a bottom-third starting PG.

This.
Reggie Jackson 2.0
below average shooter and starter, good playoff performance vs. SAS (?) and unhappiness with OKC backup role

good comp .   Rozier is a more likable character IMO .

One of our STM benefits is getting to meet a player each year. They usually throw out someone scrubbish, and no player has lasted more than a year with the Celtics after having met us (I like to think that it's not the "mef730 curse."). Of course, more than a year with the Cs makes you a grizzled veteran...

In any case, last night was our night and we were excited that it was TR12 (and shame on us for not having come up with that earlier) who took photos with us. He was truly one of the nicest people that we've met. Even though the reps were hustling us along (60-70 STM), he took the time to smile, shake hands and chat with everyone. My son was wearing his Brady shirt, so Terry commented on the number and gave him a "Go Pats!" as we left.

Granted, it was a REALLY good night for him, but he was genuinely likable and seemed excited to meet the fans, as well. Just an all-around good guy.

I'll miss him next year.

Mike

[indeedproceed]

His destiny seems to be to get traded and become a bottom-third starting PG.

This.
Reggie Jackson 2.0
below average shooter and starter, good playoff performance vs. SAS (?) and unhappiness with OKC backup role

It's not a good comp. Here's Rozier's 3rd yr vs Jackson's 3rd yr: http://bkref.com/tiny/4B8HL

Rozier is not the finisher Jackson was, but he's as good or better in all other facets of the game.

[RJ87]

Rozier played great last night, but was also matched up against Sexton who seems like a terrible weak defender.

Rozier just flat out plays much better when he starts. He just gets into a better rhythm and he stays there.

He's engaged more when he starts and his energy is better. He's shown that in rare flashes off the bench (the most recent game against Toronto comes to mind), so it seems obvious he just cares more when he starts so he focuses more.

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Rozier played great last night, but was also matched up against Sexton who seems like a terrible weak defender.

Rozier just flat out plays much better when he starts. He just gets into a better rhythm and he stays there.

He's engaged more when he starts and his energy is better. He's shown that in rare flashes off the bench (the most recent game against Toronto comes to mind), so it seems obvious he just cares more when he starts so he focuses more.

I think there is more calmness to his game when Rozier starts. He is comfortable and confident. He knows his minutes are there. He doesn't need to press too hard. Force the issue.

I see that as the problem with him off the bench. He tries too hard. He feels he needs to everything right away to stay on the court and in doing so, he tries to do too much too quickly and makes more mistakes because of it.

That if he doesn't play brilliantly, he's going back to the bench and won't play. That concern, it's like that is dominating his thought-process out on the floor.

Rozier has a peace of mind as a starter that he doesn't have as a bench player.

He might fare better in a larger bench role. In a 6th man type role where he gets 27-30 minutes rather than in a smaller 15-20mpg or 20-24mpg role bench role. He won't get that here in Boston while Smart and Kyrie are both around but things might work out better for Rozier elsewhere (different team) as a bench player in that 6th man type of role (extended minutes).

[SHAQATTACK]

Im a fan of trading him for Orlandos big center Vucevic .   Rozier gets to start and be a star and we get a multi skilled vet big to help with paint issues.

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Rozier played great last night, but was also matched up against Sexton who seems like a terrible weak defender.

Rozier just flat out plays much better when he starts. He just gets into a better rhythm and he stays there.

He's engaged more when he starts and his energy is better. He's shown that in rare flashes off the bench (the most recent game against Toronto comes to mind), so it seems obvious he just cares more when he starts so he focuses more.

I think there is more calmness to his game when Rozier starts. He is comfortable and confident. He knows his minutes are there. He doesn't need to press too hard. Force the issue.

I see that as the problem with him off the bench. He tries too hard. He feels he needs to everything right away to stay on the court and in doing so, he tries to do too much too quickly and makes more mistakes because of it.

That if he doesn't play brilliantly, he's going back to the bench and won't play. That concern, it's like that is dominating his thought-process out on the floor.

Rozier has a peace of mind as a starter that he doesn't have as a bench player.

He might fare better in a larger bench role. In a 6th man type role where he gets 27-30 minutes rather than in a smaller 15-20mpg or 20-24mpg role bench role. He won't get that here in Boston while Smart and Kyrie are both around but things might work out better for Rozier elsewhere (different team) as a bench player in that 6th man type of role (extended minutes).

Hmm. I agree on the 27-30 min 3rd guard spot being a good one for Rozier, but it was also a good spot for Smart before taking Brown's starting spot. Since any 2 of Irving/Smart/Brown/Rozier can be paired in the backcourt, Smart is Locked in to a deal and Kyrie is the man he wanted to be, it could be Brown vs Rozier for that spot, with a Wanamaker or Larkin type or vet min for insurance.

[Big333223]

His destiny seems to be to get traded and become a bottom-third starting PG.

This.
Reggie Jackson 2.0
below average shooter and starter, good playoff performance vs. SAS (?) and unhappiness with OKC backup role

It's not a good comp. Here's Rozier's 3rd yr vs Jackson's 3rd yr: http://bkref.com/tiny/4B8HL

Rozier is not the finisher Jackson was, but he's as good or better in all other facets of the game.

Just looking at the numbers you posted, Rozier's ppg is lower,his apg is lower, his FG% is lower, his FT% is lower, and their steals and blocks are pretty close to identical. It looks like Rozier is a better 3P shooter and rebounder and that's it.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

His destiny seems to be to get traded and become a bottom-third starting PG.

This.
Reggie Jackson 2.0
below average shooter and starter, good playoff performance vs. SAS (?) and unhappiness with OKC backup role

It's not a good comp. Here's Rozier's 3rd yr vs Jackson's 3rd yr: http://bkref.com/tiny/4B8HL

Rozier is not the finisher Jackson was, but he's as good or better in all other facets of the game.

Just looking at the numbers you posted, Rozier's ppg is lower,his apg is lower, his FG% is lower, his FT% is lower, and their steals and blocks are pretty close to identical. It looks like Rozier is a better 3P shooter and rebounder and that's it.

As always, in a vacuum, you can use these kinds of stats to compare players, but Jackson's situation in OKC was so different than Rozier's in Boston.

Jackson was given the keys to the offense when Westbrook was off the court. Their offense allowed their primary playmakers to run pick-and-rolls/isos to create opportunities. This raised Jackson's stats.

Rozier has never had that opportunity (except in the playoffs last year). He has always played with Irving, or Smart, or Tatum, or Hayward. He plays in a team system.

Admittedly, Rozier is not as good in the pick-and-roll as Jackson is. But he brings an energy to the team than Jackson never had. He has a magnetism. He has the explosive scoring ability to score 8 straight points and tip the game.

He's also a much, much better defender and rebounder than Jackson. The difference defensively cannot be easily quantified, but if you watch Jackson play, you realize that his defense constantly compromises the entire team's defense.