Nothing better for a team than real competition for starting roles and playing time. Hope this lights a fuse under Jeff Green's ass and he realizes he needs to be aggressive and active every minute he is on the floor or else he will lose his spot and his minutes.
Periods of passivity/zoning out is part of Green's DNA and will never change. That's not something you can coach out of someone at this stage of the game. He is what he is.
Why is everyone assuming that Turner takes Green's spot? Green is fine as a player I don't understand what more people want from him.
They want him to be an underpaid All Star.
Jeff has his limitations but he has his strengths and he is fairly paid. Most Celtics fans will never just accept this though.
Just because he's a "fine as a player" doesn't mean he would be guaranteed to start. Evan Turner is also a "fine as a player".
What "they" want him to be is someone who creates high-percentage offense for himself, because the next guy the starting lineup who can do that will be the first. Green can't do it. He can "consume" offence just fine (that is, score when the entire defense isn't focused on him) -- which is a fine skill to have, but that's not what this team needs.
So unless Green and his game proves to be some sort of a revelation, the team is better served by sitting him in favor of Turner -- at least as far as I am concerned.
How does this make any sense when Turner also cannot create his own 'high percentage' offense?
Turner's career FG% is 42% and his career 3PT% is 32%. Over his entire career he has shot above 44% from the field only once, and shot better than 32% from three only once.
Jeff Green's career averages are higher than that (44% and 34% respectively).
I don't see any way you could argue that Turner creates his own 'high percentage' offense better than Green does. Green's career scoring average (per 36 minutes) is 13% higher AND his percentages are higher pretty much across the board. He is clearly a superior offensive player overall, with the only exception being passing - where Turner definitely has the advantage.
The only argument you can make for Turner as a scorer is that he's more aggressive driving to the basket, but even this argument is pretty much moot since 30% of Jeff Green's shots have come from 0-3 feet over his career, and he has shot 64% on those attempts. while turner has shot 60%. By comparison only 20% of Turner's attempts have come from 0-3 feet, and he's shot only 60% on those attempts.
In fact the majority (24.9%) of Turner's offense has come from 10-16 feet (where he has shot 40.6%), with the second highest number of attempts (24.1%) coming from 16 feet to 3 point (where he has shot 39.1%). These long two-point jumpers are widely acknowledged to be the most inefficient shots in basketball, and while turners percentages from those ranges are not bad, they aren't good enough that you would consider it a good shot - as you would with somebody like Brandon Bass or Kevin Garnett.
On the other hand the majority (30.6%) of Green's offense comes from 0-3 feet (where he has shot 64%) with the second largest number of shots (25.1%) coming from the three point line (where he has shot (34.4%). These two locations are widely considered to be the most efficient types of shots in basketball.
Jeff Green does shoot his lowest percentage from 10-16 feet, but this is ok because he only takes 17% of his field goal attempts from that range. His second worst shooting percentage is from 16 feet to the three point line, but again that's ok because only 9% of his offense comes from there.
So what this tells us is that Jeff Green is a pretty decent offensive player to have. The two most efficient types of shots in basketball (shots around the basket and three point shots) happen to be his stronger areas offensively, and they also are the shots he takes the most of. Likewise the most inefficient shots in basketball (long 2's) are the shots he is less skilled at, and also takes the least of.
Looking at all the numbers I can't see how anybody could argue that Turner is a more efficient offensive player.
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