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Quote from: Tr1boy on November 18, 2020, 12:50:40 PMSources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run nowI don't think Carter and Avdija make them better this year. Carter is still not close to a finished product. Thought Warriors wanted more experienced help. Which is why I thought Celtic offer of Hayward (assuming they make that offer) would be more attractive to them.
Sources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run now
Quote from: footey on November 18, 2020, 01:13:13 PMQuote from: Tr1boy on November 18, 2020, 12:50:40 PMSources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run nowI don't think Carter and Avdija make them better this year. Carter is still not close to a finished product. Thought Warriors wanted more experienced help. Which is why I thought Celtic offer of Hayward (assuming they make that offer) would be more attractive to them.https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-could-celtics-trade-warriors-move-top-threeIf the Bulls want to dangle Wendell Carter and #4, and GS is willing to take our picks and Smart for #2, I think a 3 way works out really well for us.I appreciate what Smart brings to the table, but Carter is pretty much exactly what we want in a young center, and we'd also have #4, which could be another high quality guy. I'd do that.
Quote from: td450 on November 18, 2020, 02:16:45 PMQuote from: footey on November 18, 2020, 01:13:13 PMQuote from: Tr1boy on November 18, 2020, 12:50:40 PMSources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run nowI don't think Carter and Avdija make them better this year. Carter is still not close to a finished product. Thought Warriors wanted more experienced help. Which is why I thought Celtic offer of Hayward (assuming they make that offer) would be more attractive to them.https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-could-celtics-trade-warriors-move-top-threeIf the Bulls want to dangle Wendell Carter and #4, and GS is willing to take our picks and Smart for #2, I think a 3 way works out really well for us.I appreciate what Smart brings to the table, but Carter is pretty much exactly what we want in a young center, and we'd also have #4, which could be another high quality guy. I'd do that.I cannot see a scenario where the Celtics trade Smart. Kemba, Hayward, Picks, Bench pieces are all availableTatum, Brown, Smart pretty much off the table completely.
Quote from: Darth_Yoda on November 18, 2020, 02:21:38 PMQuote from: td450 on November 18, 2020, 02:16:45 PMQuote from: footey on November 18, 2020, 01:13:13 PMQuote from: Tr1boy on November 18, 2020, 12:50:40 PMSources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run nowI don't think Carter and Avdija make them better this year. Carter is still not close to a finished product. Thought Warriors wanted more experienced help. Which is why I thought Celtic offer of Hayward (assuming they make that offer) would be more attractive to them.https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-could-celtics-trade-warriors-move-top-threeIf the Bulls want to dangle Wendell Carter and #4, and GS is willing to take our picks and Smart for #2, I think a 3 way works out really well for us.I appreciate what Smart brings to the table, but Carter is pretty much exactly what we want in a young center, and we'd also have #4, which could be another high quality guy. I'd do that.I cannot see a scenario where the Celtics trade Smart. Kemba, Hayward, Picks, Bench pieces are all availableTatum, Brown, Smart pretty much off the table completely.For a quality long term solution at center and another #4?Marcus Smart is good, but he's not that good.
Quote from: td450 on November 18, 2020, 02:16:45 PMQuote from: footey on November 18, 2020, 01:13:13 PMQuote from: Tr1boy on November 18, 2020, 12:50:40 PMSources: The Warriors and Bulls have discussed a trade that’d send the second pick in exchange for the fourth pick and Wendell Carter Jr. # @ringerSounds like Bulls trying to secure WisemanGSW get Carter Jr. plus someone like Avdija, Haliburton or Vassell with the 4th. Which would help their immediate needs/make a run nowI don't think Carter and Avdija make them better this year. Carter is still not close to a finished product. Thought Warriors wanted more experienced help. Which is why I thought Celtic offer of Hayward (assuming they make that offer) would be more attractive to them.https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-could-celtics-trade-warriors-move-top-threeIf the Bulls want to dangle Wendell Carter and #4, and GS is willing to take our picks and Smart for #2, I think a 3 way works out really well for us.I appreciate what Smart brings to the table, but Carter is pretty much exactly what we want in a young center, and we'd also have #4, which could be another high quality guy. I'd do that.Time Lord is better than Carter IMO. I don't see the attraction. I'd rather trade Hayward to GSW and get the 2nd pick. I'd be willing to take back Wiggins if that's what it took.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwardsIs this guy for real? Saying things like how he can't watch basketball, and how he'd let basketball go if he was drafted to the NFL? This is not only a massive red flag for his motor and commitment to basketball, this also makes me wonder how smart this guy actually is. Why would you say this stuff days before the draft?
Quote from: RPGenerate on November 18, 2020, 03:55:59 PMhttps://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwardsIs this guy for real? Saying things like how he can't watch basketball, and how he'd let basketball go if he was drafted to the NFL? This is not only a massive red flag for his motor and commitment to basketball, this also makes me wonder how smart this guy actually is. Why would you say this stuff days before the draft?I heard speculation he was intentionally tanking to avoid certain top teams. If not, not a good look.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwardsIs this guy for real? Anthony Edwards saying things like how he can't watch basketball, and how he'd let basketball go if he was drafted to the NFL? This is not only a massive red flag for his motor and commitment to basketball, this also makes me wonder how smart this guy actually is. Why would you say this stuff days before the draft?
Quote from: RPGenerate on November 18, 2020, 03:55:59 PMhttps://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwardsIs this guy for real? Anthony Edwards saying things like how he can't watch basketball, and how he'd let basketball go if he was drafted to the NFL? This is not only a massive red flag for his motor and commitment to basketball, this also makes me wonder how smart this guy actually is. Why would you say this stuff days before the draft?“I wish I was an NFL player so I could be a flog on the field” is the essence... what?? Surely his manager would have stopped this if he wasn’t avoiding teams, right? Crazy. I got a chuckle out of his siblings being named Antoine and Antoinette
Hardwood Paroxysm@HPbasketballThe Celtics and Warriors discussed a deal that would send Marcus Smart to the Warriors for the No. 2 pick, but ultimately talks fell through, league sources tell @ActionNetworkHQ
Hardwood Paroxysm@HPbasketball·5mReplying to @HPbasketball and @ActionNetworkHQNot clear on which side ended those talks, and I absoolutely do NOT think this means the Celtics are shopping Smart any more than they shop everyone all the time because the front office does their dilligance.
The belief among league observers is that the Celtics have targeted Memphis center James Wiseman, looking to upgrade their frontcourt while keeping their core together. The Celtics have also entertained talks for Gordon Hayward in a potential sign-and-trade and Kemba Walker.None of this is exceptional given that Celtics general manager Danny Ainge haS a long-standing history of making all players available in trade talks in pursuit of upgrades. The Celtics’ request of a No. 2 pick, even in a weak draft, is a sign of how much they value Smart.