Who do the C’s cut?

[ozgod]

[Goldstar88]

My guess is Kornet gets cut and resigned to a 1-year deal to save $400k while keeping him for now.  Queta remains a 2-way because there’s no reason to convert his contract now — if he earns a better role as the year goes on you can always convert him then.

Brissett is guaranteed, so no way does he get cut.  Banton and Svi have a small guarantee, so again, no reason to cut now when you can keep them on the roster for 30 days at the same cost as releasing them.  One of Stevens or Gabriel makes it, because they only have 13 on the roster — my guess is Stevens.  Maybe they keep Gabriel too with the intent of dropping down to 14 once Banton and Svi’s guarantees have been met.

This seems like the most likely outcome. It would have been an easier decision if Stevens had been offered the guaranteed contract over Brissett, but hindsight is 20:20.

I like Brissett.  I think he’s one of those “good things happen when he’s on the court players” who’s offensive stats you should pay less attention to.. I think he’ll be ahead of Stevens in the rotation to start the year (assuming Stevens makes the team).

I thought Stevens looked better, especially in the last game. Hopefully Brad keeps them both.

[Celtics2021]

My guess is Kornet gets cut and resigned to a 1-year deal to save $400k while keeping him for now.  Queta remains a 2-way because there’s no reason to convert his contract now — if he earns a better role as the year goes on you can always convert him then.

Brissett is guaranteed, so no way does he get cut.  Banton and Svi have a small guarantee, so again, no reason to cut now when you can keep them on the roster for 30 days at the same cost as releasing them.  One of Stevens or Gabriel makes it, because they only have 13 on the roster — my guess is Stevens.  Maybe they keep Gabriel too with the intent of dropping down to 14 once Banton and Svi’s guarantees have been met.

This seems like the most likely outcome. It would have been an easier decision if Stevens had been offered the guaranteed contract over Brissett, but hindsight is 20:20.

I like Brissett.  I think he’s one of those “good things happen when he’s on the court players” who’s offensive stats you should pay less attention to.. I think he’ll be ahead of Stevens in the rotation to start the year (assuming Stevens makes the team).

I thought Stevens looked better, especially in the last game. Hopefully Brad keeps them both.

Seems like he will, since we have to have 14 and Gabriel was cut.  Which is good, I like them both.

[wiley]

Please don’t cut Queta!
(Gabriel’s cutting makes less likely)

Please don’t cut Stevens! 
(Gabriel’s cutting makes less likely)

Please play Stevens and Queta before Kornet!
(Please!)

Just because Kornet fits the system and puts his body in the right place doesn’t mean he can actually add anyrhing.  Even with Queta’s lesser fit he’ll do more for the team.  And let him have some bad games…sheesh.  Invest for heavens sakes. 

[BitterJim]

I think Kornet should be cut. He is putrid.

But Joe and Brad love him so he will survive and we will be punished by having to watch him get out worked for rebounds, watch passes go through his hands and see not be able to get off the ground.

If you expect a minimum-salary big to never do this things, you're gonna be severally disappointed whether that big is Kornet or someone else. He's not good, but the talent pool for his replacement is even worse

[Vermont Green]

I would say that waiving Gabriel is going to be the only move for now.  They can see if anyone interesting becomes available.  Likely, they end up converting Stevens to a roster spot and going with who they have.  I am fine with that.  I am not that excited about what I have seen from Banton but I understand why they would keep him if nothing better is available.  And I don't mind Kornet, he is what he is, which is a useful end of the bench guy who knows the system and is fine with the role.

I am hoping to see more from Brissett, and think he probably will settle in.  Hauser and Pritchard had good preseasons in my view.  Still not sure on Stevens, but I did like what I saw.  Mykhailiuk seemed to play well enough to be a solid end of the bench guy.

I feel we still have a need for a PF/C who can be a 7th or 8th guy in the rotation but like the team to start the season.

[feckless]

Didn't Roby look better than all of our maybes.  Why not?

[Goldstar88]

I would say that waiving Gabriel is going to be the only move for now.  They can see if anyone interesting becomes available.  Likely, they end up converting Stevens to a roster spot and going with who they have.  I am fine with that.  I am not that excited about what I have seen from Banton but I understand why they would keep him if nothing better is available.  And I don't mind Kornet, he is what he is, which is a useful end of the bench guy who knows the system and is fine with the role.

I am hoping to see more from Brissett, and think he probably will settle in.  Hauser and Pritchard had good preseasons in my view.  Still not sure on Stevens, but I did like what I saw.  Mykhailiuk seemed to play well enough to be a solid end of the bench guy.

I feel we still have a need for a PF/C who can be a 7th or 8th guy in the rotation but like the team to start the season.

With Horford off the bench, that’s really going to help the rotation. Hopefully one of Queta, Stevens, Brissett can turn into a Sam Hauser type role player.

[KeepBigAl]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

[Vermont Green]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

[Celtics2021]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

I would disagree with the bolded.  A White + Holiday backcourt is superior defensively to Holiday + Brown.  If you were doing overall, you should have put Tatum >>>>>>> Grant, because it is a massive upgrade.

[Goldstar88]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

Brown isn’t much of a downgrade from Tatum at SF. Tatum is a big upgrade over Horford at PF.  Al can play both the 4/5 off the bench. That’s an ideal situation. Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis is the best starting 5 in the NBA.

[Moranis]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

Brown isn’t much of a downgrade from Tatum at SF. Tatum is a big upgrade over Horford at PF.  Al can play both the 4/5 off the bench. That’s an ideal situation. Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis is the best starting 5 in the NBA.

Brown is a pretty significant downgrade from Tatum.  They are a different class of player.  And Tatum has no business getting beaten on by bigger stronger players more frequently at PF. 

And that certainly isn't clear cut as the best starting 5 in the sport.  I'd probably take Denver (Murray, KCP, MPG, Gordon, Jokic) and Milwaukee (Lillard, Beasley, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez) over that.  You could make a case for GS especially with a small Boston lineup (Paul, Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Dray), Phoenix (Beal, Booker, Okogie, Durant, Nurkic), and even Philly with an engaged Harden (Maxey, Harden, Harris, Tucker, Embiid), though Harden being engaged seems unlikely at this point. 

[BitterJim]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

Brown isn’t much of a downgrade from Tatum at SF. Tatum is a big upgrade over Horford at PF.  Al can play both the 4/5 off the bench. That’s an ideal situation. Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis is the best starting 5 in the NBA.

Brown is a pretty significant downgrade from Tatum.  They are a different class of player.  And Tatum has no business getting beaten on by bigger stronger players more frequently at PF. 

And that certainly isn't clear cut as the best starting 5 in the sport.  I'd probably take Denver (Murray, KCP, MPG, Gordon, Jokic) and Milwaukee (Lillard, Beasley, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez) over that.  You could make a case for GS especially with a small Boston lineup (Paul, Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Dray), Phoenix (Beal, Booker, Okogie, Durant, Nurkic), and even Philly with an engaged Harden (Maxey, Harden, Harris, Tucker, Embiid), though Harden being engaged seems unlikely at this point.

You could make an case for Detroit with Cade/Thompson/Bogdanovic/Stewart/Duren, too, but that doesn't mean the case is a coherent one or based in reality

[Goldstar88]

Gabriel is only 6' 9" and 205 lbs.  While Queta is a bit slight, his size and preseason play made Gabriel expendable.

I would like to see another big Embid and/or perhaps Giannis defender - but Tatum's increased minutes at PF will be an upgrade over Grant who was a sub par rebounder.

True but whoever has to play SF in place of Tatum, while he is playing PF, will be a downgrade.

It will essentially work like this:

Tatum > PF (Grant?)
Brown < Tatum at SF
Holiday < Brown at SG
White < Holiday at PG
Porzingis = Porzingis at C

Brown isn’t much of a downgrade from Tatum at SF. Tatum is a big upgrade over Horford at PF.  Al can play both the 4/5 off the bench. That’s an ideal situation. Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis is the best starting 5 in the NBA.

Brown is a pretty significant downgrade from Tatum.  They are a different class of player.  And Tatum has no business getting beaten on by bigger stronger players more frequently at PF. 

And that certainly isn't clear cut as the best starting 5 in the sport.  I'd probably take Denver (Murray, KCP, MPG, Gordon, Jokic) and Milwaukee (Lillard, Beasley, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez) over that.  You could make a case for GS especially with a small Boston lineup (Paul, Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Dray), Phoenix (Beal, Booker, Okogie, Durant, Nurkic), and even Philly with an engaged Harden (Maxey, Harden, Harris, Tucker, Embiid), though Harden being engaged seems unlikely at this point.

The drop off in talent from Tatum to Brown is less drastic than Tatum to Horford. Fair to say? Tatum is plenty big and strong to play PF. C’s have the best starting 5, IMO. I’d put them ahead of the ones you just listed every day of the week. Draymond Green is a starting center now?