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Do You Think Kyrie Is A Top 10 Player In The NBA Today?

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Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« on: February 09, 2018, 12:12:20 PM »

Offline CelticsQuestFor18

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Hey all,

Just curious what you guys think and where you rank Kyrie across the landscape.

Kind of exciting to think about it, and while it may not matter, it still is a fun thing to maybe debate.

I consider Kyrie Top-15 now (around 12-14 range). But before the season I had him Top-20 (around 16-18 range). He's definitely become a better playmaker here in Boston, and also seems to be playing pretty good defense too (not elite but I'd say average to above average - definitely not a liability).

That said, seems like a lot of people in the media, social media, talk shows and talk show hosts, and even players say Kyrie is a "superstar" in this league and a Top-10 player (or very close, on the edge of being Top-10).

He's currently averaging 24.8 PPG, 3.7 APG, and 5.0 APG in 33 minutes/game.

Anyways, really happy we have Kyrie here (even though I do miss Isaiah - The Little Guy - and thought we overpaid dearly back in August), but what do you all think?

For realistic purposes, I'm not saying he's worse than Top-20 in this poll (because honestly I don't think many think that unless you hate Kyrie with a passion or something).
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Re: Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 01:35:02 PM »

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I think Kyrie is a top 10 player, especially after being able to see him play every game for the Celtics. He is insanely talented and makes difficult plays look routine.

I forget which particular game it was, but it was during the Eastern conference finals last season. It looked liked Kyrie may have turned his ankle after a drive, and my immediate reaction was the Celtics may have a chance if Kyrie is hurt. Little did I know, but Kyrie then went off and seemed like he couldn't miss a shot if he tried. I don't ever recall seeing a stretch like that by a player in my life. I was in such awe that I found myself rooting for the guy to continue.

There are many super talented players in the NBA, and most can take over a game when it's needed. However, I think Kyrie is part of a select group that can perform the feat on the big stage and carry a team . To me, that separates Kyrie and firmly places him in the top 10. You can have the Greek Freak, James Harden and Chris Paul, who are all great players. But their next made big shot in a high profile game, may be their first.

Just curious as to who is in your top ten.

Re: Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 01:41:21 PM »

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8-13 range ,

He is the most entertaining guard since prime Rondo . Kyrie is so fun to watch .  He is Uncle Drew .

Re: Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 01:43:37 PM »

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Top-10, 15, 18. It’s all pretty arbitrary.

He’s good enough to be the best player on a good playoff team.


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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 01:48:03 PM »

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This are my current rankings. Kyrie is in 13th place, so just outside top 10.

Tier 1: James, Durant
Tier 2: Harden, Davis, Leonard, Westbrook, Curry, Antetokounmpo
Tier 3: George, Cousins, Wall, Butler, Irving
Tier 4: Paul, Embiid, Lillard, Griffin, DeRozan, Towns
Tier 5: Aldridge, Walker, Jokic, Gobert, Oladipo, D.Green, Drummond, Thompson

Re: Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »

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Top-10, 15, 18. It’s all pretty arbitrary.

He’s good enough to be the best player on a good playoff team.
Ah, but is he good enough to the best player on a title team?  That is really the only thing that matters.

As for the question, he isn't a top 10 player, but he is having a top 10 season.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 02:00:18 PM »

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This are my current rankings. Kyrie is in 13th place, so just outside top 10.

Tier 1: James, Durant
Tier 2: Harden, Davis, Leonard, Westbrook, Curry, Antetokounmpo
Tier 3: George, Cousins, Wall, Butler, Irving
Tier 4: Paul, Embiid, Lillard, Griffin, DeRozan, Towns
Tier 5: Aldridge, Walker, Jokic, Gobert, Oladipo, D.Green, Drummond, Thompson

Those are great tiers.  I like that and agree with them, except maybe for the order within each tier.

In Tier 3 I'd put Kyrie/Cousins/Butler at the beginning in a tie, and move George and Wall to the end.  All three of those first guys play different positions so it's hard to compare apple to apples, but I think all three are go-to, clutch guys.  Not so sure about George any more and I've never liked Wall outside of him on the fast break.  His defense is atrocious and he stands around more than anyone.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 02:07:07 PM »

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Top-10, 15, 18. It’s all pretty arbitrary.

He’s good enough to be the best player on a good playoff team.

Yeah, totally agree
 
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 08:54:11 PM »

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He's Top 15.

Though Bleacher did release some Player Rankings like 2 weeks ago (w/Top 100 NBA Players), and Kyrie was #11 on that list.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 09:01:33 PM »

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This are my current rankings. Kyrie is in 13th place, so just outside top 10.

Tier 1: James, Durant
Tier 2: Harden, Davis, Leonard, Westbrook, Curry, Antetokounmpo
Tier 3: George, Cousins, Wall, Butler, Irving
Tier 4: Paul, Embiid, Lillard, Griffin, DeRozan, Towns
Tier 5: Aldridge, Walker, Jokic, Gobert, Oladipo, D.Green, Drummond, Thompson


TP, Nice tiers.

Its hard to argue with.

Re: Is Kyrie now a Legit Top-10 Player?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 12:42:08 AM »

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Top-10, 15, 18. It’s all pretty arbitrary.

He’s good enough to be the best player on a good playoff team.
Ah, but is he good enough to the best player on a title team?  That is really the only thing that matters.

As for the question, he isn't a top 10 player, but he is having a top 10 season.

I think so, but the rest of that team better be really good. Irving, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Horford and a diesel bench is capable of winning a title. In this scenario, we need bench players that would start on other teams.

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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2018, 02:49:53 AM »

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This are my current rankings. Kyrie is in 13th place, so just outside top 10.

Tier 1: James, Durant
Tier 2: Harden, Davis, Leonard, Westbrook, Curry, Antetokounmpo
Tier 3: George, Cousins, Wall, Butler, Irving
Tier 4: Paul, Embiid, Lillard, Griffin, DeRozan, Towns
Tier 5: Aldridge, Walker, Jokic, Gobert, Oladipo, D.Green, Drummond, Thompson
I don't see how cousins wall  butler and George are on the same level as kyrie. Kyrie is much better and impactful

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2018, 03:06:39 AM »

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You guys are giving him way too much credit.  His playmaking hasn't changed and neither has his defense.  I'll believe went he can run an offense without it falling into pure isolation trash.  Run the plays and get your teammates into a rhythm before going Rambo

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2018, 04:26:20 AM »

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This are my current rankings. Kyrie is in 13th place, so just outside top 10.

Tier 1: James, Durant
Tier 2: Harden, Davis, Leonard, Westbrook, Curry, Antetokounmpo
Tier 3: George, Cousins, Wall, Butler, Irving
Tier 4: Paul, Embiid, Lillard, Griffin, DeRozan, Towns
Tier 5: Aldridge, Walker, Jokic, Gobert, Oladipo, D.Green, Drummond, Thompson
I don't see how cousins wall  butler and George are on the same level as kyrie. Kyrie is much better and impactful

Wall is two tiers too high. He was barely an all star this year. Since cousins is probably not the same anymore that puts Irving in the top 10 at tier 3.

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2018, 11:41:13 AM »

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I'd say if Kyrie is Top-10, Lilliard should be too (or on the edge), but most consider him to be a "distant" Top-15.
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