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Title: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 15, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
(http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2562000/ff_2562172_full.jpg&w=200) at (http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2562000/ff_2562175_full.jpg&w=200)
Boston Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20)
Saturday, December 16, 2017
9:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #32, Road Game #16
TV: NBCSB, FSSE-MEM, NBA-LP 762 (DTV),759 (Xfinity)
Radio: 98.5 Sports Hub,WMFS
Fed Ex Forum

(http://www.dougloudenback.com/hornets/memphis.fedexforum1.jpg)

Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Irving_Kyrie_bos17.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Harrison_Andrew_mem17.jpg)
Kyrie Irving vs Andrew Harrison

Shooting Guard

(http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brown_Jaylen_bos1617.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brooks_Dillon_mem17.jpg)
Jaylen Brown vs Dillon Brooks

Small Forward
(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tatum_Jayson_bos17.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Evans_Tyreke_mem17.jpg) 
Jayson Tatum vs Tyreke Evans

Power Forward
(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Horford_Al_bos17.jpg)  vs  (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Green_JaMychal_mem1617.jpg)
Al Horford vs JaMychal Green 

Center
(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Baynes_Aron_bos17.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Gasol_Marc_mem17.jpg)
Aron Baynes vs Marc Gasol

(http://data.shamsports.com/content/images/logos/celtics.jpg) Reserves
Shane Larkin
Abdel Nader
Semi Ojeleye
Daniel Theis
Guerschon Yabusele
Terry Rozier
Marcus Smart

Injuries

Marcus Morris  (knee)  questionable
Gordon Hayward (ankle)  out
Daniel Theis (broken nose)  out
Two Way Players
Kadeem Allen
Jabari Bird

Head Coach
Brad Stevens

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_drUMJ9HF-tQ/STAVnCy_zyI/AAAAAAAAE_A/bGbq3iOQVMU/s400/FedExForum2.jpg)

(http://data.shamsports.com/content/images/logos/grizzlies.jpg) Reserves
Mario Chalmers
Deyonta Davis
James Ennis III
Jarell Martin
Ben McLemore
Ivan Rabb

Injuries

Mike Conley (Achilles)  out
Wayne Selden Jr (quad) out
Brandon Wright (groin)  out
Chandler Parsons (rest)  out
Tyreke Evans (hip) game time decision

Two Way Players
Vince Hunter
Kobi Simmons

Head Coach
J.B. Bickerstaff

Game Notes
The Celtics head out on the road after 2 home games to face the Memphis Grizzlies in the first of two games this season.   They will meet again on February 26 in Boston.  The Celtics won both games between these two teams last season. 

Both teams are playing on the second night of back to back games.  The Grizzlies faced the Hawks at home while the Celtics faced the Jazz at home.  Memphis will have an advantage in that the Celtics had to travel after their game but the Grizzlies remain at home. 

The Celtics are 11-4 on the road while the Grizzlies are 6-11 at home.  The Grizzlies have lost 15 of their last 16 games and are 1-9 in their last 10 games.  The Celtics are 9-2 vs the West while the Grizzlies are 1-10 against Eastern Conference teams.  The Celtics are coming off a loss to the Jazz while the Grizzlies are coming off a win over the Hawks. 

Marcus Morris (knee) and Gordon Hayward (ankle) are out for the Celtics.  Daniel Theis left the game on Friday with a broken nose after getting hit in the face.  He did not return and he didn't make the trip to Memphis with the team so is likely out for this game.  Mike Conley (Achilles), Wayne Selden (quad) nd Brandan Wright (groin) are out for the Grizzlies. 

Key Matchups
(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Baynes_Aron_bos17.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Gasol_Marc_mem17.jpg)
Aron Baynes vs Marc Gasol
Gasol is averaging 18.9 points, 8.6 rebounds, and 4.0 assists. With Conley out, Gasol is the Grizzlies' best player.  He is tough to cover and Baynes will need to stay with him to keep him from having a big game. 

(https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tatum_Jayson_bos17.jpg) vs (https://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Evans_Tyreke_mem17.jpg)
Jayson Tatum vs Tyreke Evans
Evans is usually the Grizzlies' 6th man but with Chandler out for rest, Evans may move into the starting lineup, if he is playing, that is. He is a game time decision with a hip injury.   He is averaging 18.2 points, 5.0 rebounds and 4.0 assists per game.  Evans is playing better than anyone not named Gasol. 

Honorable Mention
Al Horford vs JaMychal Green
Green is averaging 10.1 points, 6.1 rebounds and 1.3 assists.   Al needs to be aggressive on both ends of the court to make Green work on defense and then to have to work for everything he gets on the offensive end. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - Defense is always key to getting a win.   The Celtics has been letting their defense slip somewhat recently and they need to get back to the tough team defense they played to start the season.  The Celtics must make defense a priority. 

Play 48 Minutes -  The Celtics can't just run half the game.  They have to run for the entire game.  They also can't let up down the stretch and have to focus especially at the end of the game.  The Celtics have had a tendency to get a lead and then let up or to start off slowly and dig a hole they  have to climb out of.  The Celtics have to play hard from the opening tip to the final buzzer. 

Rebound -  Rebounding takes effort and desire and the Celtics will need both to get back to outrebounding their opponents.  The Celtics  were out rebounded 48-30 against the Nuggets
and 55-31 against the Jazz.  Those numbers indicate that the Celtics are getting outworked.  The Celtics have to put more effort into crashing the boards because they can't score if they don't have the ball. 

Be Aggressive - The Celtics need to play hard and be the more aggressive team.  They have to go after rebounds, loose balls,  and 50/50 balls.  They have to be aggressive on defense and in getting to the basket.  They have to be the team that works harder and wants it more.    The Celtics must match the Grizzlies' effort and be the team that wants it more. 
 
Take Care of the Ball - The Celtics have to take care of the ball, make smart passes, and limit their turnovers.   The Grizzlies average 16.7 points off of turnovers  and the Celtics don't want to give them extra points by getting careless with the ball. 

X-Factors
On the Road and Fatigue

Both teams are playing on the second night of back to back games.  The Celtics are playing in the 3rd game in 4 nights and the 6th game in 9 nights.  The Celtics looked tired against the Jazz with many of their shots short and they just didn't play hard, allowing the shorthanded Jazz to outwork them for the most part.  They have to dig deep and play with energy and they have to block out the distractions of playing on the road and focus on getting a win in this game. 

Bench Play
- The Grizzlies bench has out-scored their opponents' benches 1107-807 this season.  Their bench is averaging 39.5 points per game, which is good for 7th in the league.  They have gotten 50+ points from their reserves 6 times this season.  The Celtics have a very young bench that often struggles on offense.  If the Celtics second unit can't keep up with the Grizzlies' second unit, then it might be a long night for them. 

Who Steps Up?
- With Marcus Morris and now Daniel Theis out, the bench is getting thinner.  But, the starters have to step up as well as the reserves.  Only two players, Kyrie and Al, were in double figures against the Jazz.  It's tough to win when only 2 players are scoring.  Who is going to step up? 
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 15, 2017, 09:53:00 PM
Let's go Celtics!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 15, 2017, 09:53:08 PM
Going to be rough!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 15, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
TP to rondofan1255 and liam for being the first to post in the game thread!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 15, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
TP rondofan1255!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on December 15, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
In Soviet Russia, Ball take care of you!


Let's win this one!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: trickybilly on December 15, 2017, 10:31:48 PM
In Soviet Russia, Ball take care of you!


Let's win this one!

Also, turnover mean gulag.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (8-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 15, 2017, 10:33:49 PM
frist afaik
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: HICeltic on December 16, 2017, 03:30:55 AM
I'll be at the game! With a few friends (making em wear Celtics gear) and one Grizzlies fan. Let's go C's!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: greece66 on December 16, 2017, 04:12:36 AM
nr 9 baby!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: nickagneta on December 16, 2017, 04:18:57 AM
I'll be at the game! With a few friends (making em wear Celtics gear) and one Grizzlies fan. Let's go C's!!!!
There are Grizzley fans in Boston?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on December 16, 2017, 09:27:52 AM
We really need this one after the dud last night. Hopefully we don't make a couple nobody's like Chandler Parsons or Harrison look like Hall of Famers. BTW Nick the game is in Memphis so I think there are a few Grizzly fans in Memphis.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2017, 09:42:53 AM
celtics haven't lost two in a row since the start of the season and that won't change with this game!!!!! celtics will pummel and pulverize these despicable and detestable grizzlies!!!!

thanks flc for the thread, a tp as ever for your labor of love.

goooooooooooooo celtics!!!!  ;D

p.s. frist page.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Surferdad on December 16, 2017, 10:45:44 AM
thriteenth on the frist paige.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticsElite on December 16, 2017, 06:15:39 PM
If we lose it will help the Lakers pick .  grizz are in need of wins bad

Win win situation tonight boys. This is one of those nights where you can Start lighting up the victory cigar  before the game
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Jiri Welsch on December 16, 2017, 06:55:35 PM
Pray for a victory ye holy folke
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 07:01:49 PM
Hoping for effort in defense and rebounding.  That has really fallen off in the last few games.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on December 16, 2017, 07:08:55 PM
Hoping for effort in defense and rebounding.  That has really fallen off in the last few games.

Me too, but asking for both in one game may be asking too much.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 08:30:13 PM
OK BRAD WHAT YOU GONNA DO TONIGHT EH?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2017, 08:54:20 PM
OK BRAD WHAT YOU GONNA DO TONIGHT EH?
why, win of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 08:56:27 PM
OK BRAD WHAT YOU GONNA DO TONIGHT EH?
why, win of course.  ;D

sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on December 16, 2017, 09:04:30 PM
I'm hoping we see an aggressive Celtic team here, after last night.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jambr380 on December 16, 2017, 09:07:29 PM
Nice touch with the Cheers theme song for the introduction of the Cs line-up in Memphis.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 09:09:28 PM
Very winnable game.  Looking for Tatum to have a good one -- he's been quiet lately.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
Ugly game on both sides so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
I'm hoping we see an aggressive Celtic team here, after last night.

everybody's azz shoulda been reamed last night team and coaches by DA and ownership
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:15:54 PM
I was a bit concerned that Kyrie's first shot was short by a lot.  Looked good on that 3.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 09:16:09 PM
Worst part of this game is the way too loud arena music.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:16:50 PM
vet rook for 3
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:17:05 PM
Impressive pull-up by Tatum.  Marc Gasol was right there.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:17:05 PM
Tatum! Good to see him hit his first shot, a pullup three no less, after his mini slump the last several games.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:18:02 PM
Worst part of this game is the way too loud arena music.

DWI or mute TV. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:21:18 PM
BOX OUT! GEEZ HORRIBLE DEFENSE!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:21:37 PM
Armchair coaching time - I hope Brad pulls Al or Kyrie out now to put them back in with the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: bostonsportsforlife on December 16, 2017, 09:22:36 PM
wish that Kyrie four point play counted
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
Wait, wait, wait... if you make it they're still not even going to call that as a shot? Non-sense.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: greece66 on December 16, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
i really like the game so far (judging from the comments above, maybe my stream is late?)

btw, i prefer it when the commentators are homers, the generosity of the memphis speakers makes me slightly uncomfortable

Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:23:40 PM
NBA's finest already crapping the bed officiating wise SMH
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 09:24:00 PM
I didn't know McLemore is now playing for Griz now. Remember when we thought he's gonna be the second coming of Ray Allen?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
BROWN 4 point play!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:24:14 PM
Jaylen still lighting it up from the corners
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
I didn't know McLemore is now playing for Griz now. Remember when we thought he's gonna be the second coming of Ray Allen?

who is WE? speak for yourself ole chap
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:25:25 PM
i really like the game so far (judging from the comments above, maybe my stream is late?)

btw, i prefer it when the commentators are homers, the generosity of the memphis speakers makes me slightly uncomfortable

IIRC, Memphis has always had fairly objective announcers, similar to New Orleans.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 09:26:50 PM
I didn't know McLemore is now playing for Griz now. Remember when we thought he's gonna be the second coming of Ray Allen?

who is WE? speak for yourself ole chap

Draft hype. LarBrd33 used to have a mancrush on this guy too.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
SCAL said tatum could come off bench for scoring help. we need a DPE scorer soon
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
Our defense is outstanding.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
Tatum!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:28:22 PM
VET ROOK FOR 3
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
grizz have only 8 points in 9.5 minutes of play

wow
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
Man, this Grizzlies team really is as bad as advertised without Conley. Hopefully he is back soon; otherwise, they might legitimately be another team to worry about finishing below LAL.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SparzWizard on December 16, 2017, 09:29:11 PM
Celtics up by 19 in the 1st quarter!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
Griz have really fallen off the cliff.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on December 16, 2017, 09:29:38 PM
Sheesh Memphis is bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 09:30:01 PM
I have to pick up my aunt early tomorrow from the airport. Hopefully the Celtics blow this wide open so I can go to bed in peace.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticsElite on December 16, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
Words can't describe how ecstatic I am about tatums potential in the league
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
Hoping for effort in defense and rebounding.  That has really fallen off in the last few games.

Me too, but asking for both in one game may be asking too much.

I felt the same way but so far so good lol.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SaCaCh on December 16, 2017, 09:31:55 PM
Words can't describe how ecstatic I am about tatums potential in the league
For me the biggest thing that Tatum has going for him is his ice water in the veins. That is beyond valuable in the NBA.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2017, 09:34:02 PM
OK BRAD WHAT YOU GONNA DO TONIGHT EH?
well, i guess CBS read your post and is showing us all what he plans for tonight.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:34:14 PM
THEIS THEIS BABY
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
OK BRAD WHAT YOU GONNA DO TONIGHT EH?
well, i guess CBS read your post and is showing us all what he plans for tonight.  ;D

 :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D


(https://i.imgur.com/eq9h1Dj.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:40:34 PM
I want to see Al touch the ball every possession down the floor with this current unit.  I don't want to see Smart or Rozier overdribbling.  Get Al in the post.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Hope MEM can find a way to pull this one out.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:43:35 PM
THEIS REJECT!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 09:44:06 PM
Second quarter swoon has begun
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:44:48 PM
9 points off lead evaporated
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
Second quarter swoon has begun

Predictable bench blowing the lead
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:45:06 PM
Get Al in the post and let him pass or shoot from there.  Come on Brad.

3 points in 3.5 minutes.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:45:30 PM
Second quarter swoon has begun

Predictable bench blowing the lead

TURRIBLE
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 09:46:31 PM
Nice, 12-3 run here.  Let's go Memphis!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on December 16, 2017, 09:47:01 PM
It's official, our bench is just not good and there doesn't seem to be an internal option to fix it.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:47:01 PM
Well, would you look at that. The bench is giving up points even to this scrub team.

At this point my only guess is that Brad is trolling us all with these continued dumb rotations with the bench. Does anyone really believe that a Larkin, Rozier, Smart, Theis, and Al lineup will work out there? Ugh, at least have one of Brown or Tatum out there, too.

It really should not be this difficult.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 09:48:31 PM
It's official, our bench is just not good and there doesn't seem to be an internal option to fix it.

Worst bench in the league without a doubt.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 09:49:17 PM
LOL, Rozier.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:49:48 PM
My enthusiasm for Rozier has all but disappeared.  After being a strong supporter for two years, I've soured on him very quickly this season.  He's just not a good basketball player.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
It’s official this is the worst bench in the NBA...I could be wrong but how many benches night in and night out can blow leads this quickly??
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
This bench issue is becoming incredibly frustrating. This team isn't nearly as fun to watch anymore as it was at the beginning of the year due to these predictable gamely struggles.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:52:46 PM
My enthusiasm for Rozier has all but disappeared.  After being a strong supporter for two years, I've soured on him very quickly this season.  He's just not a good basketball player.

probably needs to be packaged and dealt. we need a consistent bench scorer
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticD on December 16, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
Bench as usual blowing the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
I still want the Celtics to try to get Marco Bellineli with the DPE they have.  Would be nice off the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 09:55:09 PM
Well, would you look at that. The bench is giving up points even to this scrub team.

At this point my only guess is that Brad is trolling us all with these continued dumb rotations with the bench. Does anyone really believe that a Larkin, Rozier, Smart, Theis, and Al lineup will work out there? Ugh, at least have one of Brown or Tatum out there, too.

It really should not be this difficult.

I think a lot of coaches look (stubbornly) at the long game, meaning he wants this unit to figure it out come playoffs.  And he seems to have emphasized limiting starters' mins to be healthy for the playoffs. I remember IT mentioning that right before the playoffs last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:55:21 PM
brown for 3
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 09:56:34 PM
Is there a way we can trade Rozier for Tyreke?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
My enthusiasm for Rozier has all but disappeared.  After being a strong supporter for two years, I've soured on him very quickly this season.  He's just not a good basketball player.

probably needs to be packaged and dealt. we need a consistent bench scorer

He has no trade value, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 09:58:07 PM
morris
smart
theis

are going nowhere on bench

the rest on the bench are expendable
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:00:02 PM
Is there a way we can trade Rozier for Tyreke?

Grizzlies are tanking so maybe they’ll do it?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:00:19 PM
Well, would you look at that. The bench is giving up points even to this scrub team.

At this point my only guess is that Brad is trolling us all with these continued dumb rotations with the bench. Does anyone really believe that a Larkin, Rozier, Smart, Theis, and Al lineup will work out there? Ugh, at least have one of Brown or Tatum out there, too.

It really should not be this difficult.

I think a lot of coaches look (stubbornly) at the long game, meaning he wants this unit to figure it out come playoffs.  And he seems to have emphasized limiting starters' mins to be healthy for the playoffs. I remember IT mentioning that right before the playoffs last year.

Sure, which is definitely smart. But you can still stagger these guys better without significantly increasing our main guys' minutes. Yeah, it'll mean fewer minutes with your five preferred guys on the floor all at once, but we'd certainly make up for that by not going on huge scoring deficits in those all/primary bench lineups.

This is especially true once Morris gets back and is healthy, let alone Hayward, too. There's just no reason whatsoever that Brad can't always have two of Kyrie, Al, Tatum, Brown, or Morris out there, yet he regularly goes with only one or none of those guys in the lineup, which just doesn't make sense to me given how bad our bench has struggled.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:01:09 PM
21 point lead down to 5
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:02:37 PM
Are these refs watching the game?  That was clearly off of Memphis.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
where's max215 been at?  he abadoned us after 'the trade'
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
I have always like Tyreke Evans and yes it is strange to see him be able to hit 3's off the dribble like this.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
The bench is bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: greece66 on December 16, 2017, 10:05:08 PM
getting late here

despite memphis cutting their deficit, i enjoyed this half, this team has great promise
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticsElite on December 16, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
Smart and rozier do not pair well


We need to let go of one and get a consistent 3 and D scoring guard
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Bench is 2/13 for six points. Starters are 15/25 for 42 points.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on December 16, 2017, 10:06:18 PM
Rozier and Ojeleye are so terrible.  Marcus Smart is either great or terrible... no in between. We need another good bench player preferably someone who can actually put the ball in the hoop.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticD on December 16, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
As usual bench sucks. Smart only has a positive +/- because he played with the starters for extended minutes, Horford only has a negative +/- because he played with the bench for extended minutes.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
brad better figure it out soon on how to play for 48 minutes!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:08:03 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 10:08:38 PM
Horford only has a negative +/- because he played with the bench for extended minutes.

Horford was not good with the bench on offense in that stretch.  He passed up a wide open score in the paint to kick out to three (another bad Rozier brick), bobbled a dime from Smart, and in general didn't look for his shot much when it was needed.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
getting late here

despite memphis cutting their deficit, i enjoyed this half, this team has great promise
up by eight at the half and on the road, i'll take it. celtics going to win this one. looking forward to the second half.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
Rozier and Ojeleye are so terrible.  Marcus Smart is either great or terrible... no in between. We need another good bench player preferably someone who can actually put the ball in the hoop.

semi sux. i sadly do not see him developing into anything worthy
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
Well, would you look at that. The bench is giving up points even to this scrub team.

At this point my only guess is that Brad is trolling us all with these continued dumb rotations with the bench. Does anyone really believe that a Larkin, Rozier, Smart, Theis, and Al lineup will work out there? Ugh, at least have one of Brown or Tatum out there, too.

It really should not be this difficult.

I think a lot of coaches look (stubbornly) at the long game, meaning he wants this unit to figure it out come playoffs.  And he seems to have emphasized limiting starters' mins to be healthy for the playoffs. I remember IT mentioning that right before the playoffs last year.

Sure, which is definitely smart. But you can still stagger these guys better without significantly increasing our main guys' minutes. Yeah, it'll mean fewer minutes with your five preferred guys on the floor all at once, but we'd certainly make up for that by not going on huge scoring deficits in those all/primary bench lineups.

This is especially true once Morris gets back and is healthy, let alone Hayward, too. There's just no reason whatsoever that Brad can't always have two of Kyrie, Al, Tatum, Brown, or Morris out there, yet he regularly goes with only one or none of those guys in the lineup, which just doesn't make sense to me given how bad our bench has struggled.

Yeah, I mean I agree with you.  But Bradley seems to get stuck in his ways.  The bench truly does suck though.  I wish we had drafted Portis over Rozier.  And Hayward's injury screwed the bench up.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticsElite on December 16, 2017, 10:10:03 PM
Maybe there is ring chasing veteran that asks for buyout in a few months, then we flash the dpe at him to come play for a ring


Remember when we got pietrus few years ago. Someone like that
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 10:10:11 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.  He shows flashes but it is not there, even when he is with the starters who draw more attention he isn't lighting it up.  He is hitting good open shots.  With a defense focusing on him, he can't run anything yet.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:12:26 PM
Maybe there is ring chasing veteran that asks for buyout in a few months, then we flash the dpe at him to come play for a ring


Remember when we got pietrus few years ago. Someone like that

lol
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:12:32 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:16:56 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.

Ya as of now Tatum scores most of his points by hitting spot up threes and straight line drives, he probably wouldnt excel trying to generate his own offense. In any event asking any 19 year old rookie to carry a bench as bad as teh celtics is probably aksing for trouble. That being said, he or Brown fr that matter coudln't be any worse that the offesne Smart and Rozier throw out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on December 16, 2017, 10:17:50 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.

I agree. He's shown more capability in this short span than either Smart or Rozier.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:20:49 PM
21 point lead down to 2
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
21 point lead down to 2

And gone
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
Good defense there!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:24:14 PM
TIE GAME!!!!!!!!

GREAT JOB BLOWING 21 point lead.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on December 16, 2017, 10:24:26 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.

Ya as of now Tatum scores most of his points by hitting spot up threes and straight line drives, he probably wouldnt excel trying to generate his own offense. In any event asking any 19 year old rookie to carry a bench as bad as teh celtics is probably aksing for trouble. That being said, he or Brown fr that matter coudln't be any worse that the offesne Smart and Rozier throw out there.

Some of you guys need to understand the distinction between total offense and scoring though, as Smart is a really good passer.  He is a way better passer than Tatum does and he is good at running pick and roll.  He just needs someone to hit the buckets (he does well with guys who can and plays well with Kyrie for example).  Like you say, Tatum hasn't shown much off the dribble.  You need the dribble to break down defenses and create offense.   Tatum isn't ready yet.

Smart is doing a fine job.  No one is expecting him to be the top scorer with the bench, we need other people to score while he passes.  The bench doesn't really have enough off the dribble scoring or three point shooting off the bench in my mind.  That's why I would like Bellineli from ATL.

Smart isn't just holding the ball.  He moves it.  He isn't preventing Tatum from doing anything, he's just not ready.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:25:59 PM
Gasol is killing us!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticsElite on December 16, 2017, 10:26:54 PM
Tie game. We lost that huge lead. Thanks bench
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 10:27:08 PM
Now it’s become Kyrie vs Memphis. Looking like a .500 team out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:27:42 PM
It's amazing how much our poor 2nd quarters from our bench influences such large stretches of the game.

Can we just cut Nader and re-sign Gerald Green at the minimum or something?  We need to address our anemic bench scoring one way or another.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticD on December 16, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Starters build up a lead...bench gives it away...by the time the starters come back in all the momentum goes to the other team...

Time and time again..smh.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2017, 10:28:53 PM
i have only watched part of the game, but from what i watched the celtics are really doing a poor job of switching on defense. and credit it memphis, they make the shots that open up because of the poor rotation.

plus, the celtics offense is still sluggish. i dont see al or tatutm or brown being involved enough.  :(
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 10:29:10 PM
now that's the shot in Smart's wheelhouse
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
We've already given up 20 points in 6 minutes after giving up 28 points in the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on December 16, 2017, 10:29:55 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.

Ya as of now Tatum scores most of his points by hitting spot up threes and straight line drives, he probably wouldnt excel trying to generate his own offense. In any event asking any 19 year old rookie to carry a bench as bad as teh celtics is probably aksing for trouble. That being said, he or Brown fr that matter coudln't be any worse that the offesne Smart and Rozier throw out there.

Some of you guys need to understand the distinction between total offense and scoring though, as Smart is a really good passer.  He is a way better passer than Tatum does and he is good at running pick and roll.  He just needs someone to hit the buckets (he does well with guys who can and plays well with Kyrie for example).  Like you say, Tatum hasn't shown much off the dribble.  You need the dribble to break down defenses and create offense.   Tatum isn't ready yet.

Smart is doing a fine job.  No one is expecting him to be the top scorer with the bench, we need other people to score while he passes.  The bench doesn't really have enough off the dribble scoring or three point shooting off the bench in my mind.  That's why I would like Bellineli from ATL.

Smart's a good passer, but any competent defense can neutralize him. Play him for the pass and take away the passing angles - he's not a threat to score, so defenders are going to stay home on their guys. When that happens, Smart goes into one on one mode which plays directly into what the other team wants.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:31:09 PM
It's amazing how much our poor 2nd quarters from our bench influences such large stretches of the game.

Can we just cut Nader and re-sign Gerald Green at the minimum or something?  We need to address our anemic bench scoring one way or another.

It really is. It seems like we start off games well, but then the bench in the 2nd quarter just totally throws us out of rhythm, which we tend to play catch-up with the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:32:20 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.

He’s shown far more ability than Smart and Rozier. Half the time offensive plays are running through Smart and tunnel vision Rozier.I’d prefer Tatum take a last second shot than Smart.

Ya as of now Tatum scores most of his points by hitting spot up threes and straight line drives, he probably wouldnt excel trying to generate his own offense. In any event asking any 19 year old rookie to carry a bench as bad as teh celtics is probably aksing for trouble. That being said, he or Brown fr that matter coudln't be any worse that the offesne Smart and Rozier throw out there.

Some of you guys need to understand the distinction between total offense and scoring though, as Smart is a really good passer.  He is a way better passer than Tatum does and he is good at running pick and roll.  He just needs someone to hit the buckets (he does well with guys who can and plays well with Kyrie for example).  Like you say, Tatum hasn't shown much off the dribble.  You need the dribble to break down defenses and create offense.   Tatum isn't ready yet.

Smart is doing a fine job.  No one is expecting him to be the top scorer with the bench, we need other people to score while he passes.  The bench doesn't really have enough off the dribble scoring or three point shooting off the bench in my mind.  That's why I would like Bellineli from ATL.

Smart isn't just holding the ball.  He moves it.  He isn't preventing Tatum from doing anything, he's just not ready.

Ya, as a whole there are worse offensive players than Smart. You can say that about just abut every celtics bench player. The problem comes when you have 4 or 5 subpar offesnive players on the court at once as we do. In that regard inserting any one Starter probably wnt solve our problems. We just need indivudals to play and shoot better.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:32:52 PM
Tatum with a beauty!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:33:45 PM
Wait Marcus hit a pull-up 3??
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 10:34:09 PM
Wait Marcus hit a pull-up 3??

He does that occasionally.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:34:27 PM
That's the second beautiful move that Tatum has made on the drive but missed the layup.  I'm not worried about the misses.  He's getting to the hoop.  Stay aggressive.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 10:35:01 PM
Smart has energized the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:35:20 PM
That's the second beautiful move that Tatum has made on the drive but missed the layup.  I'm not worried about the misses.  He's getting to the hoop.  Stay aggressive.

that 2nd one was gorgeous... but he did miss it. Still a great move.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
That's the second beautiful move that Tatum has made on the drive but missed the layup.  I'm not worried about the misses.  He's getting to the hoop.  Stay aggressive.

Same can't be said about Rozier. Dude just can't finish, even with wide open layups.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on December 16, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
It's amazing how much our poor 2nd quarters from our bench influences such large stretches of the game.

Can we just cut Nader and re-sign Gerald Green at the minimum or something?  We need to address our anemic bench scoring one way or another.

I've asked myself this question every game. A dove dies every time Nader checks into the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:36:36 PM
That's the second beautiful move that Tatum has made on the drive but missed the layup.  I'm not worried about the misses.  He's getting to the hoop.  Stay aggressive.

that 2nd one was gorgeous... but he did miss it. Still a great move.

yep. agree with both of u and i say same thing here when he drives and cannot finish. DONT STOP TATUM. KEEP DOING IT!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 10:37:34 PM
They should be beating these guys. Less shakiness would be nice...lighten'em up would be aok too. Three threes in a row...nothing crazy...maybe the bear gets on the court...fights with a Grizzly...you know a wild animal thing where the Leprechaun comes out on top.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:38:49 PM
Jaylen is really bad at forcing contested shots at the rim when he should kick out.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
Gasol should be playing for a better team...you know...like the Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
Jaylen is really bad at forcing contested shots at the rim when he should kick out.

I'm fine with that shot, when you have it literally at the rim go up with it.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:40:23 PM
Lol Gasol can’t miss
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:40:42 PM
Gasol is just unreal tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:40:54 PM
How do we leave Gasol wide open after he just made a 3?  If I was Brad I'd take a TO and rip into my team.  That's just unacceptable.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:40:57 PM
Back with the non-sense calls I see.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 10:41:28 PM
The defense is just bad now. Gasol hasn't had this much space to shoot in weeks.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
Gasol is just unreal tonight.

This is actually ridiculous
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
C’s are making another bad team look good.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 10:42:17 PM
Not boxing out, sagging out Gasol in the perimeter. Terrible effort on defense once again.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticD on December 16, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Jaylen is really bad at forcing contested shots at the rim when he should kick out.

He is so inept at making basic passes, i don't even fault him.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:42:24 PM
CAN WE EVEN TRY TO GUARD GASOL? WHAT THE FRICK MAN??????
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:42:42 PM
I guess we don't learn our lesson.  Let's just let Gasol make 3 consecutive 3's on us.  Crowding him and making him put the ball on the floor clearly isn't a good strategy.  Nope.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
What the hell is Al doing defensively?? He's given up two straight open threes to Gasol by losing him and miscommunicating.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: ETNCeltics on December 16, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
2 of the worst quarters we've seen all season, back to back.

KI is +22 and we're behind. Our bench is beyond putrid.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 10:44:36 PM
yet another heads-up-their-ass collapse.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:44:40 PM
2 of the worst quarters we've seen all season, back to back.

KI is +22 and we're behind. Our bench is beyond putrid.

yeah i have seen enough. this is BS. DA needs to raise hell with CBS or go find new players. who is a keeper on bench? theis and morris. what about smart? is he expendable also?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:45:02 PM
yet another heads-up-their-ass collapse.

losing to another D league team like the bulls.

Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on December 16, 2017, 10:46:01 PM
Smart needs to realize that when the team needs a basket, he's not a good option to get it. He has to learn that, he should be facilitating the basket.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:46:26 PM
yet another heads-up-their-ass collapse.

losing to another D league team like the bulls.

At least we’re losing to Gasol and not Portis
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:46:26 PM
Oh nice.  A Larkin and Rozier combo.  Because that worked so well in the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 10:47:02 PM
This stretch will be the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 10:48:02 PM
about time they started calling some fouls on Chalmers.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:48:17 PM
Wow, that's 4 fouls in a little over a minute. Granted, it's doubtful that we take advantage of that and get to the line.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:49:21 PM
Nice break!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 10:50:03 PM
TATUM WITH THE TOMAHAWK!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:50:12 PM
Good thing the Memphis bench is pulling a Celtics bench.  Can't score the ball and turning the ball over.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:50:13 PM
I know we have Tatum and Horford in but it’s nice to see the bench actually take and extend a lead
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:50:13 PM
TATUM WITH THE SLAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:50:39 PM
Tatum!

Good on Brad by having both Al and Tatum in there.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
TATUM WITH THE SLAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

That was massive!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 10:50:58 PM
Defense??
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 10:51:50 PM
Did you see how high that ball was in the air at it's peak? lol
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
I know we have Tatum and Horford in but it’s nice to see the bench actually take and extend a lead

That's the entire point. This type of bench rotation will limit those terrible droughts we have, especially with pairings like Al and Tatum.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 10:52:07 PM
Rozier skins Grizz
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: keevsnick on December 16, 2017, 10:52:07 PM
Welp, running things through Horford seemed to work.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jambr380 on December 16, 2017, 10:52:21 PM
It's worse for Memphis with Gasol going out of the game than it is for us with Kyrie. Gasol sat for like a minute and the Cs went on an 11-0 run.

Let's keep this going! Also, this is the Rozier we all love!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on December 16, 2017, 10:52:38 PM
Blood in the water. We need more aggressive big-brother-picking-on-little-brother type of defensive plays.

Oh, and it'd be great if we don't leave Gasol wide open in the 4th.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 10:53:36 PM
what a juke by Tatum.  love this kid
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:53:37 PM
Oh man, Tatum looking like Kyrie out there with the handles!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:54:08 PM
Honestly the offense needs to run through Tatum on the bench... Brad already staggers his minutes so he plays with the bench. He’s the only consistent scorer.

People need to give this idea up this year.  Tatum does not consistently show enough ability to find his own shot, create for others, and shoot off the dribble to positively run a bench unit in the NBA yet.  He shows flashes but it is not there, even when he is with the starters who draw more attention he isn't lighting it up.  He is hitting good open shots.  With a defense focusing on him, he can't run anything yet.

Tatum heard you because he’s creating his own offense now
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 10:54:16 PM
Andrew Harrion's not that good.  Surprised he has stuck in the league.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 10:54:36 PM
We've been a good 4th quarter team this season.  So what's the difference between the 2nd and the 4th?  Brad usually changes his rotations in the 2nd quarter.  This is working better, at least this game.  I don't mind Tatum subbing out early in the 1st and 3rd so we can use his scoring with the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 10:54:48 PM
I know we have Tatum and Horford in but it’s nice to see the bench actually take and extend a lead

That's the entire point. This type of bench rotation will limit those terrible droughts we have, especially with pairings like Al and Tatum.

Exactly it’s just unfortunate to always have to rely on starters.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:55:17 PM
Al and Tatum have been connected to every single bucket in this run, mostly Al.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 10:55:46 PM
I like Theis!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:55:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/O39x7I3.jpg)

for THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 10:55:55 PM
THEIS 3!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 10:56:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uydPKb8.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: GratefulCs on December 16, 2017, 10:56:53 PM
good time out
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on December 16, 2017, 10:57:33 PM
Now, Gasol is a player that fits the Celtic system well.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 10:58:12 PM
We've been a good 4th quarter team this season.  So what's the difference between the 2nd and the 4th?  Brad usually changes his rotations in the 2nd quarter.  This is working better, at least this game.  I don't mind Tatum subbing out early in the 1st and 3rd so we can use his scoring with the bench.

Yes. This is also something that I've noticed, and I don't really understand it either. He always relies too heavily on the primary/all bench lineups in the second, which gets us into the hole/funk in the first place. Not sure what changes in the fourth for Brad.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Redz on December 16, 2017, 10:59:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uydPKb8.jpg)

Nice to see him hit a three.  He's been taking one or two a game with confidence but bricking them.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 11:00:42 PM
We've been a good 4th quarter team this season.  So what's the difference between the 2nd and the 4th?  Brad usually changes his rotations in the 2nd quarter.  This is working better, at least this game.  I don't mind Tatum subbing out early in the 1st and 3rd so we can use his scoring with the bench.

Yes. This is also something that I've noticed, and I don't really understand it either. He always relies too heavily on the primary/all bench lineups in the second, which gets us into the hole/funk in the first place. Not sure what changes in the fourth for Brad.

I don't understand it either.  When do you see really weird lineups in the 4th?  The Larkin, Smart, Rozier, Ojeleye, Theis kind of lineups.  Almost never, but they show in the 2nd, and they kill our momentum.  I just don't get it.  If Brad seeks consistency, stop rolling out stupid lineups in the 2nd.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 11:00:44 PM
Man, like clockwork - Al (and Tatum) goes out, and they make a little run. People don't realize how important Al is to our team.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 11:01:14 PM
nice persistance to get that bucket
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 11:02:11 PM
Smart is so good in the PnR when he has a good roller/popper and he's looking to pass instead of shoot.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:02:25 PM
Nice dish from Smart!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 11:02:57 PM
Kyrie!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uydPKb8.jpg)

Nice to see him hit a three.  He's been taking one or two a game with confidence but bricking them.

yup
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:03:55 PM
Tyreke got bailed out.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 11:03:56 PM
who's that number 11? He's good.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 11:04:32 PM
Brooks is pretty solid for a mid 2nd rd pick.  Making the most of his opportunity.

Does anyone know how to turn off the "Warning: While you were typing a new reply..." notification?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 11:06:23 PM
nice bucket by Horford.  we needed that
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on December 16, 2017, 11:06:31 PM
Tatum!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
Why are they rushing it? Milk the clock.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 11:06:44 PM
JT!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on December 16, 2017, 11:06:52 PM
VET ROOK SEALS GAME!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
Very stupid shot by Kyrie w/ the fresh clock.  Tatum bailed him out.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 11:07:07 PM
Why are they rushing it? Milk the clock.

Kyrie just a little too trigger happy sometimes.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
Why are they rushing it? Milk the clock.

Score if it's there!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 11:07:11 PM
Memphis downtown traffic report....standby
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 11:08:13 PM
Beautiful 4th quarter by The Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticD on December 16, 2017, 11:08:30 PM
Why are they rushing it? Milk the clock.

Kyrie just a little too trigger happy sometimes.

Poor end-of-game bbiq. Those 2 shots were just unacceptable.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on December 16, 2017, 11:08:31 PM
Very stupid shot by Kyrie w/ the fresh clock.  Tatum bailed him out.

Yep, and the shot before that he took wasn't great either.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 16, 2017, 11:09:28 PM
Beautiful 4th quarter by The Celtics!
They picked up the defense and the offense followed.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2017, 11:10:09 PM
Major props to our team for this 4th quarter.  We must be exhausted. 

And props to Rozier who put in some big baskets this quarter.  But one good quarter every 5-6 quarters ain't good enough.  Need more consistency from the 7th guy off the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: slamtheking on December 16, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Brown really needs to work on his ballhandling.  gets his dribble picked off too easily in traffic
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:10:26 PM
Beautiful 4th quarter by The Celtics!
They picked up the defense and the offense followed.

And who sparked that run? Marcus Smart.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 11:10:32 PM
Please drive home safely!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:10:57 PM
Unleash the dancing bear!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: CelticSooner on December 16, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Bench showed up to start the 4th. *applause*
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 16, 2017, 11:11:36 PM
Very stupid shot by Kyrie w/ the fresh clock.  Tatum bailed him out.

Yep, and the shot before that he took wasn't great either.
In Kyrie's defense he's out there with Smart and Brown - neither of whom can make a shot - so he probably (and correctly) feels like it's up to him to score.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 11:12:51 PM
Shameless brag:

This was prior to tip off the Nuggets game.  Jaylen went for 26, 5, 2.

Easy game. Jaylen is going off for 20+ tonight. Looking forward to celebrating this win with yall.

And this was prior to tonight's game:

Very winnable game.  Looking for Tatum to have a good one -- he's been quiet lately.

Tatum went for 19, 10, 2, 2.

I am on fire this week! TPs for tarheels.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tstorey_97 on December 16, 2017, 11:12:55 PM
TP's to all for crunching Grizz!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:13:05 PM
Very stupid shot by Kyrie w/ the fresh clock.  Tatum bailed him out.

Yep, and the shot before that he took wasn't great either.
In Kyrie's defense he's out there with Smart and Brown - neither of whom can make a shot - so he probably (and correctly) feels like it's up to him to score.

There was no urgency to score. They have a comfortable lead. If it wasn't rebounded by Tatum, it could lead to an easy points to Memphis.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 16, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
Celtics are 23rd in pace this season. Down from 12th and 3rd the two seasons prior. Curious why that is.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 11:16:48 PM
Celtics are 23rd in pace this season. Down from 12th and 3rd the two seasons prior. Curious why that is.

Last year's emphasis was on a run and gun style with less concern on the defensive side of the ball.  I think guy's are staying home more on that end this year.  Also, we have much better half-court shot creators in Kyrie, Tatum, etc. and more size down low.  I think Kyrie is better in the half court in general, though I don't have stats to back that up. 
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: liam on December 16, 2017, 11:18:28 PM
That was a solid win on the 2nd night of a back to back and the team had to fly all the way to Memphis. Good win! On to Indiana!
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on December 16, 2017, 11:18:31 PM
Celtics are 23rd in pace this season. Down from 12th and 3rd the two seasons prior. Curious why that is.

Brand new team means brand new schemes. This Celtic team can now score better on half court, in contrast to last year's team where they had to outrun their opponents for easy buckets.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on December 16, 2017, 11:19:52 PM
Other than the failure to defend Gasol in the 3rd, this was a great defensive effort. Seriously, if we just took away his 3 pointers and forced him into drives or passes, the Griz score like 75.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 16, 2017, 11:22:19 PM
Thank the gods we never traded for Ben McLemore who many here thought we should have traded for.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 16, 2017, 11:54:34 PM
Other than the failure to defend Gasol in the 3rd, this was a great defensive effort. Seriously, if we just took away his 3 pointers and forced him into drives or passes, the Griz score like 75.

Didn't guard the perimeter very well, though.  They shpt 41% from 3, and we're only giving up 34% on the season.  They struggled from inside, though.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on December 16, 2017, 11:57:06 PM
That was a solid win on the 2nd night of a back to back and the team had to fly all the way to Memphis. Good win! On to Indiana!

You make it sound like they flew to Mexico City or Europe. Haha. It's Tennessee what a 2 hour flight?
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 17, 2017, 12:25:36 AM
That was a solid win on the 2nd night of a back to back and the team had to fly all the way to Memphis. Good win! On to Indiana!

You make it sound like they flew to Mexico City or Europe. Haha. It's Tennessee what a 2 hour flight?
For what it is worth, a direct flight is about five hours.  Siri gave me an answer In less than five seconds.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 17, 2017, 12:38:08 AM
Beautiful 4th quarter by The Celtics!
They picked up the defense and the offense followed.

And who sparked that run? Marcus Smart.

which run? smart didn't come into the 4th until the last 5 minutes. the run to begin it was with horford and larkin running the show. some good play by tatum and clutch buckets from rozier. the last 5 minutes was basically maintaining the lead those guys got us in the first half of the 4th.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: greece66 on December 17, 2017, 04:28:27 AM
Smart and rozier do not pair well


We need to let go of one and get a consistent 3 and D scoring guard

Just woke up and saw the result, nice result.

On your comment CelticsElite: a 3D player would be an upgrade over Rozier, but I think you underestimate how hard they are to get. I remember discussing (was it with DWC?) why NOP did not get any good wings last summer and the answer was there was none available at an affordable price.

As things are, despite his shortcomings, Rozier fills a useful role and he comes at a very reasonable rookie price. And once Hayward is back it will matter less anyway.

Also, hwangjini good to see we share the same optimism.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: colincb on December 17, 2017, 05:56:21 AM
Beautiful 4th quarter by The Celtics!
They picked up the defense and the offense followed.

And who sparked that run? Marcus Smart.

which run? smart didn't come into the 4th until the last 5 minutes. the run to begin it was with horford and larkin running the show. some good play by tatum and clutch buckets from rozier. the last 5 minutes was basically maintaining the lead those guys got us in the first half of the 4th.

I think mr. dee meant to say that Smart sparked the team from the bench. So did the view of Marc Gasol getting a rest.  Theis played well during that stretch too and hit a near dagger 3 running the lead back up to 14 points.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: chilidawg on December 17, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
Smart's intangibles are so powerful he can dominate the game from the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (24-7) at Grizzlies (9-20) Game #32 12/16/17
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on December 17, 2017, 08:16:04 AM
If nothing else, Smart has impacted how aggressive Jaylen Brown is on defense, which is a leading reason why Brown deserve an All-Defensive Team nod this year.

I love hearing Smart yell "Get out (name)" when we play small ball. Like, multiple times last night, Smart defended the guy in the corner when a pick-and-roll action was happening at the top of the key. Al and Terry (or Kyrie, or Shane) switched which left Gasol diving and trying to post up our point guards as the ball was swung.

Smart jumped into action with excitement in his voice and yelled "Get out," telling our little guys to take his man in the corner while he takes Gasol. I love that about Smart.