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Is the NBA Lottery Rigged?

No. Stop worrying about this.
30 (85.7%)
Yes. And Silver won't let the Celtics get another top selection.
2 (5.7%)
Yes. And Silver hates the 76'ers so we don't have to worry.
3 (8.6%)

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Voting closed: October 24, 2018, 04:18:43 PM

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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2018, 02:34:55 PM »

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Good thing the lottery isn't rigged, then.


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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2018, 02:55:46 PM »

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You know how I know that the NBA lottery isn't rigged?

The last time that the Knicks won it was in 1985. The NBA would love nothing more than the Knicks to be a winner, financially speaking. It's the largest NBA market and one of the worst teams -- the most potential swing. Imagine how much extra revenue they'd get if their largest market had a good team?

Maybe I should start worrying that all the top players are wings instead of worrying that we wont get the pick.

Our wing spot is loaded. Not sure where we'd find the minutes for another natural 3.

There's a good chance if the pick is high that we're either trading the pick or trading one of our wings. Agree that we're not adding a 4th top wing to the mix, as much as that'd be a good problem to have.
agreed.  it'd more than likely be offered as a significant trade chip for Davis next offseason. 

not sure of the timing between that and when Kyrie can sign his next contract for the max but I wouldn't be surprised to see Danny coordinate with NO to pick who they want so that they can be shipped out with Brown and possibly Smart/Rozier for salary purposes (Smart's deal helps cover financial ground) right after Kyrie resigns to get Davis if NO sucks this year and he wants out.

Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2018, 03:12:28 PM »

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I mean 2014 was very questionable. Cavs with the #1 pick lol.


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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
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I mean 2014 was very questionable. Cavs with the #1 pick lol.

Obviously, there have been some eyebrow raising events over the years but it would be nearly impossible to carry out a rigged lottery conspiracy.  There would be way too many people involved in the parts to make it work.  Plus you have a public accounting firm overseeing the events.   Both the NBA and Ernst & Young have way, way, way too much at stake to undergo a rigging of a lottery.


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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2018, 03:30:37 PM »

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The lottery is run and certified by the accounting firm of Ernst and Young. It occurs behind closed doors with all teams represented watching the entire process. The draft can't get rigged.

As for the Celtics pick, this draft isn't nearly as strong as the last few drafts have been. I could easily see the C's trading their Sac pick and others plus players for a star. Or maybe they package a bunch of picks to get RJ Barrett, have Smart be the bench PG, let Rozier walk and develop Barrett as the back up SG.

Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2018, 04:33:14 PM »

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It would be sad to lose the pick but not a killer, Tatum straight up was a huge get, we'd also get a first from Philly, not going to be good but it's an add on. IMO any pick is gravy.
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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2018, 05:03:18 PM »

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You know how I know that the NBA lottery isn't rigged?

The last time that the Knicks won it was in 1985. The NBA would love nothing more than the Knicks to be a winner, financially speaking. It's the largest NBA market and one of the worst teams -- the most potential swing. Imagine how much extra revenue they'd get if their largest market had a good team?

Maybe I should start worrying that all the top players are wings instead of worrying that we wont get the pick.

Our wing spot is loaded. Not sure where we'd find the minutes for another natural 3.

There's a good chance if the pick is high that we're either trading the pick or trading one of our wings. Agree that we're not adding a 4th top wing to the mix, as much as that'd be a good problem to have.

I'm not sure there's a trade I want to make besides for AD (or a S&T with Terry).

Most Trades would require us to send out salary, and we don't have a player + contract we could send out to get value for a top pick. Really, if we do trade our #2 pick and a player, who are we targeting to get back (if not AD)? Would we ever get value for #2 + Hayward or #2 + Smart? I doubt it.

Maybe if there's a good shooter we could try to come away from this draft with our 2-guard of the future.
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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2018, 05:09:40 PM »

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If Silver is smart, he’d set the Celts up as a dominant team. Leagues thrice on villains, and rival fan bases love to hate the Celts.

Agreed, Celtics are easy to hate as they are such a successful franchise. Problem is, this team is very likeable. Smart, Morris, and possibly Kyrie (for how he handled his ending in Cleveland) are the only guys I can see being disliked by other fans.

This team was put together through a series of shrewd trades and great drafting. I know people like to discredit Ainge for swindling an (in their eyes) incompetent Billy King, but he still had to hit on those picks (and use another pick to get Kyrie).

Will be interesting to see who fans root for if we get Celtics vs Warriors Finals.
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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2018, 05:24:53 PM »

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You know how I know that the NBA lottery isn't rigged?

The last time that the Knicks won it was in 1985. The NBA would love nothing more than the Knicks to be a winner, financially speaking. It's the largest NBA market and one of the worst teams -- the most potential swing. Imagine how much extra revenue they'd get if their largest market had a good team?

Maybe I should start worrying that all the top players are wings instead of worrying that we wont get the pick.

Our wing spot is loaded. Not sure where we'd find the minutes for another natural 3.

There's a good chance if the pick is high that we're either trading the pick or trading one of our wings. Agree that we're not adding a 4th top wing to the mix, as much as that'd be a good problem to have.

I'm not sure there's a trade I want to make besides for AD (or a S&T with Terry).

Most Trades would require us to send out salary, and we don't have a player + contract we could send out to get value for a top pick. Really, if we do trade our #2 pick and a player, who are we targeting to get back (if not AD)? Would we ever get value for #2 + Hayward or #2 + Smart? I doubt it.

Maybe if there's a good shooter we could try to come away from this draft with our 2-guard of the future.
Isn't Jaylen Brown at age 22 our SG of the future?

Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2018, 06:05:52 PM »

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I mean 2014 was very questionable. Cavs with the #1 pick lol.
With the Clippers pick.  Their own pick fell to 4th despite being a bottom 2 team.
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Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
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Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2018, 06:57:28 PM »

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You know how I know that the NBA lottery isn't rigged?

The last time that the Knicks won it was in 1985. The NBA would love nothing more than the Knicks to be a winner, financially speaking. It's the largest NBA market and one of the worst teams -- the most potential swing. Imagine how much extra revenue they'd get if their largest market had a good team?

Maybe I should start worrying that all the top players are wings instead of worrying that we wont get the pick.

Our wing spot is loaded. Not sure where we'd find the minutes for another natural 3.

There's a good chance if the pick is high that we're either trading the pick or trading one of our wings. Agree that we're not adding a 4th top wing to the mix, as much as that'd be a good problem to have.

I'm not sure there's a trade I want to make besides for AD (or a S&T with Terry).

Most Trades would require us to send out salary, and we don't have a player + contract we could send out to get value for a top pick. Really, if we do trade our #2 pick and a player, who are we targeting to get back (if not AD)? Would we ever get value for #2 + Hayward or #2 + Smart? I doubt it.

Maybe if there's a good shooter we could try to come away from this draft with our 2-guard of the future.
Isn't Jaylen Brown at age 22 our SG of the future?
You’d suspect so. A long-term project to take Hayward’s spot (cough, Zion) would be the way I’d try and go. Or Barrett if we lose Rozier, as he’s a very strong ball-handler and playmaker.

No bigs I’m really interested in besides Nazreon Reid - Bol looks like he can’t be bothered.
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2018, 08:10:47 PM »

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Good thing the lottery isn't rigged, then.

Never was and never will be. Even our owner Wyc made sure of that by witnessing the KD sweepstakes and lost. Just the bounce of the balls. How will Silver rig the thing anyway with every team having representatives in that tiny room..

Re: A horrible thought about our SAC pick.
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2018, 06:57:42 AM »

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You know how I know that the NBA lottery isn't rigged?

The last time that the Knicks won it was in 1985. The NBA would love nothing more than the Knicks to be a winner, financially speaking. It's the largest NBA market and one of the worst teams -- the most potential swing. Imagine how much extra revenue they'd get if their largest market had a good team?

Maybe I should start worrying that all the top players are wings instead of worrying that we wont get the pick.

Our wing spot is loaded. Not sure where we'd find the minutes for another natural 3.
Zion is not exactly a typical wing player but yeah, it might be until Charles Bassey when we see the first big come off the board. There's currently no PG's that look like a top 10 pick either. There's some good potential though and I wouldn't necessarily punt on this draft pick. Reddish, Barrett, Little, Zion, Langford and Sekou could all turn out to be all-stars. It's like complaining about having to pick from Adriana Lima, Megan Fox or Miranda Kerr when you really want a hot blonde.

It’s not like Marcus Morris is long for this team, and Smart or Rozier are easily tradeable as well.  If we drafted a wing that player could easily take up some of those minutes to start his career.

Longer term Hayward will be 30 in a couple years, and it’s not a guarantee he will be here long term.  Even if he is continue to start 3 wings, with one of them bring off the bench as a 6th man.   You could even have lineups with all 4 in at the same time.