Author Topic: How will you remember this past period of Celtics basketball? (2016-19)  (Read 5734 times)

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Offline Kuberski33

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I'll sum it up in one sentence - Ainge did everything right, but Hayward got hurt and Kyrie was an idiot.

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You play your best players. Our best players were mostly wings, plus that is today's basketball. We also played 2 big lineups.

You don't play guys just because they are big. The Pelicans played big with two of the best centers in the game,didnt even reach playoffs. The warriors with a 6-8 dude playing cneter won 3 championships. This is a different era where skill>height.

Yet Baynes and Horford together were one of our best defensive options and allowed us to hang with Philly.   So it is not as simple, as you make it out to be.   The trouble is we don't nor have we had enough good bigs aside from Al.      Al is a two way player, Baynes was not.   We also don't have the shooters to offset the bigs like Golden State has on their team.   Durant also had plenty of size, and is a great deal bigger than 6-8.   

So once, again a generalization, is shown to be as full as holes as Swiss Cheese.

I would also point out that the Warriors can go big most of that era if they needed too.   Small ball was not their only option.   That is the problem with management here, they do not see as a tactical option in a game but rather a foundation to build the team on.   Against Big teams like the Bucks we were exposed.   A team ought to have options for both and we are going to see that this year because we don't have Al did a lot of things to mitigate this weakness.

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When that 6'8 player has a rare combination of length, motor, strength and skill, his lack of size is mitigated at the center spot. They also have a 6'7 SG, a 6'9 SF/PF and a 7'0 freak who can play all three frontcourt spots in a pinch, as well as the greatest shooter of all time to bolster their offense. We don't have that combination of offensive firepower and defensive versatility, and we played three guard lineups when Golden State played one guard with 3 wings and 1 forward/center as "going small". You don't have to play huge, but you can't play tiny either.

I know,  it was a gross simplification, and your post, which I noted after posting mine,   Pointed those things out admirably.
TP for identifying the issues our FO and coaching staff have in terms of basketball philosophy. A great team has to have options to combat an array of different matchups, and that's usually achieved by having a variety of different players who can be used in specific matchups, or having a bunch of players who are big and skilled, or have qualities that can overcome their lack of size ala Draymond.
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Now is the winter of our discontent.

Offline mobilija

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2018-2019 the season that I became more interested in the political threads on CelticsStrong.

The season that talking politics was better than talking Celtics....ouch

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Offline Hank Finkel

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2018-2019 the season that I became more interested in the political threads on CelticsStrong.

The season that talking politics was better than talking Celtics....ouch

Sad but true.  Aarggghhh!!!

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Yeah Danny is so committed to small ball he only had 4 Centers on the roster. A real visionary would have had 6.

Yeah, which are those four are going to stop Embiid and Al, please tell.   I want a quality big not a pack of bandaids hope some of them will stick.  We have the following:

Kanter - skilled big, decent rebounder oft criticized for defense
Pourier - An unknown who led his Euro league in rebounding but is just two years from scoring 4 pts and 4 rebounds in the summer league.
Timelord -Tantalizing talent who needs to put it together
Tacko - intriguing but will he make the team
Theis - Undersized and big bodied easily but moves well and can get hot.

What I was talking about was a quality big, right now, Kanter is our only quality big and some would say he struggles on D.     Pourier, Timelord and Tacko have a lot to prove.   I am a Celtics Fan so I hope it all works and they dominate but aren't you even a little worried about our bigs? 


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In the same way as the decade of the 90's.