Heat (0-1) at Celtics (1-0) Round 1 Game #2 4/24/24

[perks-a-beast]

Joe Mazzulla: if incompetence was a person

[celticinorlando]

This “historically good super team” just lost home court advantage in round 1 game 2 against the worst team in the playoffs without their best player.

They. Are. Frauds.

Same ole story

Let’s see how they respond in game 3. Still think they win in 5.

[jpotter33]

IT LITERALLY TOOK JOE UNTIL 30 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME TO GO SMALL WITH NO KP OR AL. MY GOD IS HE INCOMPETENT.

I would have went small in the first quarter.  The only way the Heat can win is if they light us up from 3.  Joe's dumbass double big lineup got them going.  They made back to back 3's when Joe made that decision.  It was all downhill from there.

Pretty sure that coincided with icing Tatum after ten straight points in the first, too. Gave them the momentum that they rode the rest of the game.

[scaryjerry]

the J’s might be scoring but their defensive effort tonight is pathetic. you can’t win a chip if you don’t play both sides of the court for 48 minutes. allowing someone as limited as herro to torch you at home is a joke.

I'm not sure what you're watching, but that's not on the Jays. They're getting screened off by Bam - with illegal screens no less - and it's the bigs that are playing way too far down low to contest it. That's literally what it is every single time, with the only other exceptions being when Jrue is playign his free safety defense and way too far off of his man.

It's the ridiculous defensive gameplan that is killing us - the same one that lost us the Finals in 2022. Wonder who we have to blame? 

i’m watching bam feast in the lane, martin and herro shooting uncontested threes, jaquez and jovic with 25. are the J’s not guarding anyone? their defensive effort has been crap, just like the bigs who are sagging on the pnr. take off your green colored glasses; this team is who they’ve always been and the J’s aren’t stepping up on the defensive end.

and where were the J’s on offense in the second half? another disappearing act in crunch time…against the butler-less heat at home!

I mean, they both went over their season averages in points tonight. You're pointing the finger at the wrong guys, my dude.

ah, points…the ultimate arbiter of performance in the nba playoffs.
 

where were they offensively in the second half? how many games have we witnessed the J’s put up big point stats but disappear in the crunch? tatum took himself out of the game mentally again (we all saw it happen), and brown was essentially nonexistent in the 2H. and they played horribly on defense. just because the bigs played poorly on D as well doesn’t have anything to do with the J’s: you want to be “the man” you have to show up in the crunch on both sides of the ball. ultimately, the J’s will be judged by wins and championships and tonight they didn’t deliver (again).

Jaylen brown is a lower level all star and Tatum is a choking dog who gets visible bad body language in tight playoff games.
Kind of a make or break season for them, if this snowballs poorly this could affect the rest of their careers negatively.

[jambr380]

IT LITERALLY TOOK JOE UNTIL 30 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME TO GO SMALL WITH NO KP OR AL. MY GOD IS HE INCOMPETENT.

I would have went small in the first quarter.  The only way the Heat can win is if they light us up from 3.  Joe's dumbass double big lineup got them going.  They made back to back 3's when Joe made that decision.  It was all downhill from there.

Pretty sure that coincided with icing Tatum after ten straight points in the first, too. Gave them the momentum that they rode the rest of the game.

That was crazy. Tatum comes out on fire, but we have to sit him after 5 minutes because that was the planned rotation and you can't deviate from the plan. How do you not just let him continue to cook out there?

[jpotter33]

Well s***, if the other team shoots 54% from three on high volume then you're gonna lose.  That just is what it is.

Onto the next one.

Most optimistic take. Thanks. Yeah, 23-43 is difficult to defeat, especially when you are shooting a pedestrian 12-32.   33 point differential.  The downside of the take is -- they had way too many good looks.

This is the most important point, though. It wasn't like they were hitting super contested, difficult threes. We were gift wrapping them wide open threes of the PnR because of a poor defensive gameplan and lack of adjustments.

You can't claim a fluke when you're giving them wide open threes. They're still professional basketball players on a team that is known for three point shooting.

[blink]

Tatum +8 in 41 minutes

Brown -20 in 37 minutes

Pretty much sums up the last 7 years.

for gawds sake are you even watching the game.  Brown has played well.  plus minus doesnt tell the whole story so stupid

We've seen this for 7 years.  When Brown has these great shooting games, he is generally playing selfish ball and doesn't work as hard defensively.  It is years and years of the same thing. Tatum played 41 minutes and Boston outscored the Heat by 6 points.  Tatum sits on the bench and Brown has to step up and Boston gets outscored by 16 points in the 7 minutes Tatum rested.  In game 1, Brown took just 12 shots, he had 3 assists, and just 1 turnover.  He was +17 in the 34 minutes. He played much better team ball.  That is the Brown we need.  Not the Brown from tonight when he took more shots than Tatum and had nearly double the shots of the 3rd person.  Gunner mode Brown is not good for the team, even when he is hitting shots because he doesn't play team ball.  He had just 1 assist, he turned it over 3 times, and his defense wasn't very good.

+\- isn’t the god of stats that you think it is.  JB practically kept us in the game in the 2nd quarter.  the whole team needs to play better def.  JB wasnt the problem tonight.  you are so biased it is unbelievable.

[celticinorlando]

Gotta get more out of white, holiday and KP.

Joe needs to trust PP and Hauser

[scaryjerry]

This “historically good super team” just lost home court advantage in round 1 game 2 against the worst team in the playoffs without their best player.

They. Are. Frauds.

Same ole story

Let’s see how they respond in game 3. Still think they win in 5.

You have more confidence than me. The way that game just played out and tatums  disgusting body language has me shook. Miami has literally nothing to lose and this is a legacy defining playoff run for some of these Celtics. Lots of pressure. It’s not going to be a cake walk in Miami and I have no idea why anybody would think that or that the Heat are not going to play well again. I guarantee you the Heat will play well again.

[celticinorlando]

Boston wins game 3. Sets up a big game 4.

We are going to find out if tonight was a one off or if Boston hasn’t learned

[Billz401]

IT LITERALLY TOOK JOE UNTIL 30 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME TO GO SMALL WITH NO KP OR AL. MY GOD IS HE INCOMPETENT.

I would have went small in the first quarter.  The only way the Heat can win is if they light us up from 3.  Joe's dumbass double big lineup got them going.  They made back to back 3's when Joe made that decision.  It was all downhill from there.

Pretty sure that coincided with icing Tatum after ten straight points in the first, too. Gave them the momentum that they rode the rest of the game.

That was crazy. Tatum comes out on fire, but we have to sit him after 5 minutes because that was the planned rotation and you can't deviate from the plan. How do you not just let him continue to cook out there?

This is what I've been saying, he has zero feel for the game. This is what year 3 of his coaching career at any level?

[Donoghus]

Think we knew there was gonna be a bad loss or two this playoff run.

Guess I just didn’t expect one in Game 2 of the first round.

Celtics just made things more difficult for themselves but they’ll bounce back.

[Phantom255x]

This “historically good super team” just lost home court advantage in round 1 game 2 against the worst team in the playoffs without their best player.

They. Are. Frauds.

Same ole story

Let’s see how they respond in game 3. Still think they win in 5.

You have more confidence than me. The way that game just played out and tatums  disgusting body language has me shook. Miami has literally nothing to lose and this is a legacy defining playoff run for some of these Celtics. Lots of pressure. It’s not going to be a cake walk in Miami and I have no idea why anybody would think that or that the Heat are not going to play well again. I guarantee you the Heat will play well again.

We've actually done really well in Miami in recent years. Last two postseasons, a combined 5-2 there. That's not some "home court advantage" for them either, when the stadium is only like 50% filled 

[smicker16]

Tatum +8 in 41 minutes

Brown -20 in 37 minutes

Pretty much sums up the last 7 years.

for gawds sake are you even watching the game.  Brown has played well.  plus minus doesnt tell the whole story so stupid

We've seen this for 7 years.  When Brown has these great shooting games, he is generally playing selfish ball and doesn't work as hard defensively.  It is years and years of the same thing. Tatum played 41 minutes and Boston outscored the Heat by 6 points.  Tatum sits on the bench and Brown has to step up and Boston gets outscored by 16 points in the 7 minutes Tatum rested.  In game 1, Brown took just 12 shots, he had 3 assists, and just 1 turnover.  He was +17 in the 34 minutes. He played much better team ball.  That is the Brown we need.  Not the Brown from tonight when he took more shots than Tatum and had nearly double the shots of the 3rd person.  Gunner mode Brown is not good for the team, even when he is hitting shots because he doesn't play team ball.  He had just 1 assist, he turned it over 3 times, and his defense wasn't very good.

I agree with your overall belief of value between Tatum and Brown but in this game it feels more like a one off and Brown being brought down by having to play with KP who had an even worse +/-   Think we all felt KP was basically being played off the court with how poorly he was being played. That feels like the main driver and Tatum was paired with Horford who had a positive impact on the game.

[perks-a-beast]

I feel like I owe Marcus Smart an apology.