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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #285 on: February 05, 2018, 05:06:18 PM »

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Love Dion Lewis and James white but I absolutely hated how all year long McDaniels would constantly run right up the gut with a 5ft8 rb
I have no problem with that. It worked more often than not.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #286 on: February 05, 2018, 05:59:18 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #287 on: February 05, 2018, 05:59:53 PM »

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Love Dion Lewis and James white but I absolutely hated how all year long McDaniels would constantly run right up the gut with a 5ft8 rb
I have no problem with that. It worked more often than not.

Lewis and White are both nice but I think they could have used a bigger power runner to play the role Blount played in previous years.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #288 on: February 05, 2018, 06:57:37 PM »

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Love Dion Lewis and James white but I absolutely hated how all year long McDaniels would constantly run right up the gut with a 5ft8 rb
I have no problem with that. It worked more often than not.

Lewis and White are both nice but I think they could have used a bigger power runner to play the role Blount played in previous years.
Lewis can make a lot more yards between the tackles than Blount because he makes people miss. If you want someone to make a yard and not fumble the ball, you always have Brandon Bolden on the roster too.

All in all, I feel like the run is mostly a function of how well the OL plays. Remember Jonas Gray?
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #289 on: February 05, 2018, 07:00:56 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #290 on: February 05, 2018, 07:18:15 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.

Foles was awesome. Watch the game again if you don't think so. Check out how many times he put the ball where only the receiver could get it.

Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #291 on: February 05, 2018, 07:52:34 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.

Foles was awesome. Watch the game again if you don't think so. Check out how many times he put the ball where only the receiver could get it.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl?  Because, again, he was barely pressured.  Most QBs look awesome when not under pressure.

Even when the Pats forced him out of the pocket, they could barely get a finger on him.
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« Reply #292 on: February 05, 2018, 08:13:33 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.

Foles was awesome. Watch the game again if you don't think so. Check out how many times he put the ball where only the receiver could get it.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl?  Because, again, he was barely pressured.  Most QBs look awesome when not under pressure.

Even when the Pats forced him out of the pocket, they could barely get a finger on him.

I disagree. Even with a relative lack of pressure, most QBs aren’t going to hit their passes with the crispness, touch and accuracy that Foles did. He put the ball exactly where it needed to be.


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« Reply #293 on: February 05, 2018, 08:30:02 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.

Foles was awesome. Watch the game again if you don't think so. Check out how many times he put the ball where only the receiver could get it.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl?  Because, again, he was barely pressured.  Most QBs look awesome when not under pressure.

Even when the Pats forced him out of the pocket, they could barely get a finger on him.

I disagree. Even with a relative lack of pressure, most QBs aren’t going to hit their passes with the crispness, touch and accuracy that Foles did. He put the ball exactly where it needed to be.

I felt like their receivers made a whole lot more plays than the Pats' too.  Which is weird to say on a day the Pats got over 500 yards in the air.  If the ball was near their hands, they caught it. 
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« Reply #294 on: February 05, 2018, 08:33:14 PM »

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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #295 on: February 05, 2018, 08:36:36 PM »

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However bad that week of practice was, it can't be worse than what Bademosi gave them. Still doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #296 on: February 05, 2018, 08:51:01 PM »

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However bad that week of practice was, it can't be worse than what Bademosi gave them. Still doesn't make any sense.

What do you think of the narrative that benching Butler crushed the morale of the defense? If so, that could explain why they weren't able to stop the Eagles at all last night.

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« Reply #297 on: February 05, 2018, 09:04:38 PM »

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Either way, I don't think we're doing much arguing. For the record, I think Foles was a lot better vs. Minn than in the SB... and he had a 75% completion rate vs. Atl so I don't know how you count that as mediocre; vs. Oakland he was just plain bad.


Foles had a 47.4 QBR against Atlanta; compare to 93.5 against Minnesota and 88.6 against New England.
Not a big fan of ESPN's QBR. QBs are supposed to pass and I have no use for running, penalties, and all that other crap that goes in total QBR. Foles' passer rating was 100.1 QBR vs Atl, 141 vs Minn and 105 vs NE, and that's pretty great in my book.

Foles was awesome. Watch the game again if you don't think so. Check out how many times he put the ball where only the receiver could get it.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl?  Because, again, he was barely pressured.  Most QBs look awesome when not under pressure.

Even when the Pats forced him out of the pocket, they could barely get a finger on him.

I disagree. Even with a relative lack of pressure, most QBs aren’t going to hit their passes with the crispness, touch and accuracy that Foles did. He put the ball exactly where it needed to be.

I felt like their receivers made a whole lot more plays than the Pats' too.  Which is weird to say on a day the Pats got over 500 yards in the air.  If the ball was near their hands, they caught it.
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« Reply #298 on: February 05, 2018, 09:20:25 PM »

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http://www.weei.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/details-about-malcolm-butler-situation-starting-emerge

However bad that week of practice was, it can't be worse than what Bademosi gave them. Still doesn't make any sense.

What do you think of the narrative that benching Butler crushed the morale of the defense? If so, that could explain why they weren't able to stop the Eagles at all last night.
I don't know about the morale, but I'm shocked that Patricia, who was announced as the Lions HC the day after the SB, didn't just put Butler in when it was clear that the D needed someone, anyone to make a play.
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« Reply #299 on: February 05, 2018, 09:23:29 PM »

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I felt like their receivers made a whole lot more plays than the Pats' too.  Which is weird to say on a day the Pats got over 500 yards in the air.  If the ball was near their hands, they caught it.
Weird, that's how I felt about Amendola and Gronk. I can't think about a situation when I though, dang, I wish our guys made that play.
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