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Title: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: albas89 on January 20, 2013, 11:12:28 AM
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/2013/01/20/miami-takes-a-shot-on-chris-andersen/ (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/2013/01/20/miami-takes-a-shot-on-chris-andersen/)

In the other news, C's don't need a big, that's why they haven't given him a shot for so long... ::)
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Birdman on January 20, 2013, 11:15:40 AM
Noooo..but got to see what he has left. Injuries and hasnt played in awhile may hurt him
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Roy H. on January 20, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
Well, we'll see if Danny's complete lack of interest was justified. 
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Birdman on January 20, 2013, 11:16:59 AM
K-mart is still out there
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Roy H. on January 20, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
K-mart is still out there

I would much prefer Andersen.  He's better in terms of scoring (both in terms of scoring rate and efficiency), he's a better shotblocker, a better rebounder, a better defender, and a better teammate.  Plus, Andersen is a better center.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=martike01&y1=2012&p2=anderch01&y2=2012

Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on January 20, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
Lol awesome
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 20, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
gooooosh dang it!
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: CantBeRight on January 20, 2013, 11:32:23 AM
I hope he destroys them from the inside...
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on January 20, 2013, 11:32:36 AM
No worries, birdman is washed up and a trouble maker.....right? He better be.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: csfansince60s on January 20, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
Having a hard time fathoming Danny's seemingly complete lack of interest. Not even a blurb or a murmur of C's interest. Heat about two weeks ago were speaking to Birdman as were a couple of other teams.

Hopefully this means:

1. Birdman is really cooked and the cHeat, being desperate for a big,took him as a last resort, because they have NO assets to acquire even a Mosgov, nevermind a Gortat or even a Dalembert.....and...

2. Danny knows that he is going to make a move for a quality big.

Even if #2 is true,though, can't see how Birdman would've hurt as a backup to this possible big.....unless he is completely cooked.

Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Bombastic Jones on January 20, 2013, 11:48:12 AM
depressing news.  *sigh*

i am on board with your analysis csfansince60s.  but, i dont understand how danny would know birdman is really cooked.  it seems like he didnt even look at him.  hopefully i am wrong.  i liked birdman's game up until 30 seconds ago, now i hope he has a terrible season.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Who on January 20, 2013, 11:49:03 AM
Crap
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: pearljammer10 on January 20, 2013, 11:53:37 AM
No worries, birdman is washed up and a trouble maker.....right? He better be.

Maybe he will be a terrible influence on Bron Bron!!
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: mgent on January 20, 2013, 12:02:44 PM
Only a matter of time til he signed with someone.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: csfansince60s on January 20, 2013, 12:07:33 PM
depressing news.  *sigh*

i am on board with your analysis csfansince60s.  but, i dont understand how danny would know birdman is really cooked.  it seems like he didnt even look at him.  hopefully i am wrong.  i liked birdman's game up until 30 seconds ago, now i hope he has a terrible season.

It is depressing.

Hopefully, however, my analysis is correct, BUT, it is wishful thinking on my part that Danny "knows" he is cooked. Once and awhile, wishful thinking can be correct....I know that you and I and most here hope so this time...despite the fact that most of us liked Birdman...just not with the cHeat.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: apc on January 20, 2013, 12:09:33 PM
What is the status on his legal issues?
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Roy H. on January 20, 2013, 12:11:03 PM
depressing news.  *sigh*

i am on board with your analysis csfansince60s.  but, i dont understand how danny would know birdman is really cooked.  it seems like he didnt even look at him.  hopefully i am wrong.  i liked birdman's game up until 30 seconds ago, now i hope he has a terrible season.

It is depressing.

Hopefully, however, my analysis is correct, BUT, it is wishful thinking on my part that Danny "knows" he is cooked. Once and awhile, wishful thinking can be correct....I know that you and I and most here hope so this time...despite the fact that most of us liked Birdman...just not with the cHeat.

There are definitely reasons to be wary of Andersen.  He only played in 32 games last year and averaged 15 minutes per game, and was hampered by a bad back. 

Even so, we have two open roster spaces, and Andersen would add a lot more in 10 to 15 minutes per minute than, say, Jason Collins or whoever this year's Ryan Hollins is.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Roy H. on January 20, 2013, 12:12:32 PM
What is the status on his legal issues?

Still technically "under investigation", but it doesn't seem like it's a serious concern.

Looks like this is a 10-day deal for now.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: csfansince60s on January 20, 2013, 01:12:07 PM
I guess that he has been in Miami for a while working out.

Supposedly he had a small procedure done on his knee and hasn't been on the court since August.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/heat-blog/sfl-miami-heat-chris-andersen-s012013,0,4052734.story

"  "It's been nine months since I've been on the floor," he said. "I'm just overwhelmed to be here. They're taking a chance with me and I'm here to give them everything I've got."

Hopefully it's not much....for this year, anyway.

Don't like this at all.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Nowee on January 20, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
It's sad that Boston did not give him a 10 day contract to see what he can do. Signing him would be cheap and would not need a trade like all the the other trade suggestions for a big man.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: slamtheking on January 20, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
It's sad that Boston did not give him a 10 day contract to see what he can do. Signing him would be cheap and would not need a trade like all the the other trade suggestions for a big man.
let's face it, he's no Varnado   ::)
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: crimson_stallion on January 20, 2013, 02:11:04 PM
His skills aside, we really don't need any more injury prone big men.  We have had our heart's broken by that for as long as I can remember, and chances are if he signed with us he would have suffered a career ending injury 12 games in.  Since he signed with Miami, he'll probably he healthy and have a break put year.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: xmuscularghandix on January 20, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
IMO letting Birdman sign in Denver was one of Danny Ainges biggest mistakes. A few years ago I was so excited to see that dude coming off the bench...
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: wiley on January 20, 2013, 03:17:29 PM
Wyc probably nixed it due to the off court stuff......whether or not it's fair.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: csfansince60s on January 20, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
Wyc probably nixed it due to the off court stuff......whether or not it's fair.

.....or smart.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Who on January 20, 2013, 03:21:54 PM
K-mart is still out there
Sign him up
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: csfansince60s on January 20, 2013, 03:25:53 PM
Maybe us being on Oden's shortlist was Danny's rationale for not signing Birdman. Let's hope he knows something we don't know. (I know that I am grasping at straws here.)

Won't affect this year so much, but could be big for future.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Who on January 21, 2013, 03:15:38 AM
I still think Chris Andersen could have really helped this team's backup big men corps.

A missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: j804 on January 21, 2013, 05:07:36 AM
might Spoelstra throw Birdman at us when we see them this week? I think so should be interesting
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: jambr380 on January 21, 2013, 09:12:09 AM
I have to go with the assumption that he would be about as useful as Oden would be right now. Honestly, there is no other reason for this guy to be not have been picked up until now. I know we all like to think of the good old days when Andersen was very effective, but he must just be horrible now. His legal matters are pretty minor given other players around the league.
Title: Re: Heat sign Birdman
Post by: Who on January 21, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
might Spoelstra throw Birdman at us when we see them this week? I think so should be interesting
I doubt he'll get up to speed that quickly.

Joel Anthony and Chris Andersen are pretty similar players defensively and offensively. C.Andersen is just a better rebounder. Superior overall player due to that but close enough that it'll probably take C.Andersen a fair bit of time to learn the system before he pushes ahead of J.Anthony in the depth chart.

Andersen is returning from a long layoff also so that will probably hold Andersen further back too.