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Re: Tyler Z's most impressive measurable.
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2014, 02:11:11 PM »

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besides the fact that he's really talk at 6'11" and a quarter without shoes. Is that his no step vertical is 30". To give a point of reference Marcus smart had a 33" no step vertical which was tired for third out of all the players at the combine and the only guys to best smart were guys like m brown smarts teammate who had a mind blowing 44" max vertical. Also Dwayne Wade had a 31" no step vertical at his combine. So for a seven footer to jump 30" without needing any steps is nice. He does have a small wingspan though at only 7'. Oh well.
I am a UNC fan so I know his game fairly well.  He has good springs but his biggest asset in college was his speed and willingness to run the floor.  Used to get lots of easy baskets.

how is he at protecting the rim?
Not much of a factor.  I mean, he'll try hard, and even takes charges, but he isn't blocking or re-directing too many shots. 

Re: Tyler Z's most impressive measurable.
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2014, 02:14:51 PM »

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standing vert won't make up for your short reach when a big man is posting you up.
and to add some more stats that have appeared elsewhere on cb....

the average nba center's standing reach is 9' 1.3".

tyler's standing reach is 8' 8.5", which, by the way, is shorter than olly's, sully's, or even bass'.
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2014, 02:17:24 PM »

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besides the fact that he's really talk at 6'11" and a quarter without shoes. Is that his no step vertical is 30". To give a point of reference Marcus smart had a 33" no step vertical which was tired for third out of all the players at the combine and the only guys to best smart were guys like m brown smarts teammate who had a mind blowing 44" max vertical. Also Dwayne Wade had a 31" no step vertical at his combine. So for a seven footer to jump 30" without needing any steps is nice. He does have a small wingspan though at only 7'. Oh well.
I am a UNC fan so I know his game fairly well.  He has good springs but his biggest asset in college was his speed and willingness to run the floor.  Used to get lots of easy baskets.

how is he at protecting the rim?

He is good at protecting the rim, but probably not the way that most think of.  Zeller seems to always be stepping up and taking charges, which protects the rim by disallowing the shot.  He might not be a great shot blocker (.5 blocks per game averaging 15 minutes a game last season) but he is a rim protector.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2014, 02:29:10 PM »

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tyler's standing reach is 8' 8.5", which, by the way, is shorter than olly's, sully's, or even bass'.
Couldn't care less. His max vertical is 3-4" inches more than Sullinger's and Olynyk's, and he has a 7'1 frame on which to put muscle so that he doesn't get pushed around. Where do I sign up?
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2014, 02:35:19 PM »

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Re: Tyler Z's most impressive measurable.
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2014, 03:27:13 PM »

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tyler's standing reach is 8' 8.5", which, by the way, is shorter than olly's, sully's, or even bass'.
Couldn't care less. His max vertical is 3-4" inches more than Sullinger's and Olynyk's, and he has a 7'1 frame on which to put muscle so that he doesn't get pushed around. Where do I sign up?
i agree, but i also look realistically at those situations wherein zeller will be posted up by someone with a lot long standing reach. this isn't a fatal flaw, nor did i say it was. it is however something to consider as a limitation.

his rebounding stats in his first two years seem to say that he is a good, not great rebounder. i looked at his rebounding based upon rebounds/48 minutes (since he only averaged 15 minutes a game last season this is a bit suspect, but all i could really find for comparisons.)

tyler ranked 48th in the nba, averaging 12.9/48. not bad, not super. he was just above spencer hawes, and just behind chris anderson. for what it is worth, sully averaged 14.1/48 and olly 12.5/48.

looking at his TRB% gives a similar story. a good, not great percentage for zeller.

i think he will be good as a back up center for the celtics. but as with any backup, he has limitations.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2014, 03:30:25 PM »

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besides the fact that he's really talk at 6'11" and a quarter without shoes. Is that his no step vertical is 30". To give a point of reference Marcus smart had a 33" no step vertical which was tired for third out of all the players at the combine and the only guys to best smart were guys like m brown smarts teammate who had a mind blowing 44" max vertical. Also Dwayne Wade had a 31" no step vertical at his combine. So for a seven footer to jump 30" without needing any steps is nice. He does have a small wingspan though at only 7'. Oh well.
I am a UNC fan so I know his game fairly well.  He has good springs but his biggest asset in college was his speed and willingness to run the floor.  Used to get lots of easy baskets.

how is he at protecting the rim?

He is good at protecting the rim, but probably not the way that most think of.  Zeller seems to always be stepping up and taking charges, which protects the rim by disallowing the shot.  He might not be a great shot blocker (.5 blocks per game averaging 15 minutes a game last season) but he is a rim protector.

interesting, thanks for the info

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2014, 03:30:58 PM »

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We have a great stable of horses to run run run.

I can't wait to see Rondo walk the ball up and pound it into the ground for 22 seconds.

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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2014, 03:35:57 PM »

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We have a great stable of horses to run run run.

I can't wait to see Rondo walk the ball up and pound it into the ground for 22 seconds.

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2014, 03:48:03 PM »

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We have a great stable of horses to run run run.

I can't wait to see Rondo walk the ball up and pound it into the ground for 22 seconds.

Hey Tommy, remember who had the fastest pace last season?

That's right! It was the world beating Philadelphia 76ers.

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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2014, 04:10:48 PM »

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He is better shooter than Sully.   Look at his FG% last year.  It was .538%.  He is a nice backup center.

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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2014, 04:36:13 PM »

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Just to clarify, Zeller has the same standing reach and wingspan as our new shooting guard James Young.

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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2014, 04:54:57 PM »

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Can someone tell me if we received the better of the Zeller brothers?  Not that either is a real franchise/game changer or anything, I'm simply curious.

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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2014, 04:57:06 PM »

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Can someone tell me if we received the better of the Zeller brothers?  Not that either is a real franchise/game changer or anything, I'm simply curious.

no we got the lesser one

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2014, 05:05:57 PM »

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We got the stronger one who is more capable at the center position.