2013 PAPTBG Playoffs

[thirstyboots18]

Time to take a flyer...

Evan Gattis, Atlanta Braves.

He didn't do much in the regular season, hope he can continue to surprise me in the post season. 

(Maybe next time I will listen to Wally.  Nah....too stubborn!  )

[Redz]

Fielder for game 4 please

[Bahku]

 

2013 PAPTBG Playoffs

Quarter Finals


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American League

1 - 33-00-32 / BOS     vs     6 - Rondo2287 / TBR

            33-00-32  leads  Rondo2287  2.5 / 0.5 ,  + 3  bases



  Game 1 - Fri  10/4  Final


     BOS  -  David "Big Papi" Ortiz :  1 Hit / 2 Bases  ( Double )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 0  ( 1 Hit / 2 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     TBR  -  Yunel Escobar :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  0 / 1  ( 0 Hits / 0 Bases / 0 RBIs )


  Game 2 - Sat  10/5  Final


     BOS  -  Will Middlebrooks :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  1.5 / 0.5  ( 2 Hits / 3 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     TBR  -  Evan Longoria :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  0.5 / 1.5  ( 1 Hit / 1 Base / 0 RBIs )


  Game 3 - Mon  10/7  Final


     BOS  -  Shane Victorino :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  / 0 RBIs  =  2.5 / 0.5  ( 3 Hits / 4 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     TBR  -  Wil Myers :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  0.5 / 2.5  ( 1 Hit / 1 Base / 0 RBIs )


  Game 4 - Tue  10/8  Final


     BOS  -  Jarrod Saltalamacchia :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  3 / 1  ( 3 Hits / 4 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     TBR  -  James Loney :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 3  ( 1 Hit / 1 Base / 0 RBIs )



( MLB  -  Boston  Red  Sox  beat  Tampa  Bay  Rays  3 / 1 )

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3 - Redz / DET     vs     4 - GreenFaith1819 / OAK

            Redz  leads  GreenFaith1819  2 / 1 ,  + 2  bases



  Game 1 - Fri  10/4  Final


     DET  -  Victor Martinez :  2 Hits / 3 Bases  ( Double, Single )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 0  ( 2 Hits / 3 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     OAK  -  Josh Donaldson :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  0 / 1  ( 0 Hits / 0 Bases / 0 RBIs )


  Game 2 - Sat  10/5  Final


     DET  -  Torii Hunter :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 1  ( 2 Hits / 3 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     OAK  -  Yoenis Cespedes :  2 Hits / 2 Bases  ( Singles )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 1  ( 2 Hits / 2 Bases / 0 RBIs )


  Game 3 - Mon  10/7  Final


     DET  -  Miguel Cabrera :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  2 / 1  ( 3 Hits / 4 Bases / 0 RBIs)

     OAK  -  ** Missed Pick ** :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Ouch )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 2  ( 2 Hits / 2 Bases / 0 RBIs )


  Game 4 - Tue  10/8  Final


     DET  -  Prince Fielder :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  3 / 1  ( 4 Hits / 5 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     OAK  -  Brandon Moss :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 3  ( 2 Hits / 2 Bases / 0 RBIs )



( MLB  -  Oakland  Athletics  and  Detroit Tigers  are tied 2 / 2 )

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National League

         
* *  B a h k u   b e a t s   T h i r s t y B o o t s 1 8   3 / 1 ,  + 1 4   B a s e s  * *
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  Game 1 - Thu  10/3  Final


     ATL  -  Jason Heyward :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  0 / 1  ( 1 Hit / 1 Base / 0 RBIs )
     
     LAD  -  Adrian Gonzalez :  2 Hits / 5 Bases  ( Home Run, Single )  2 RBIs  =  1 / 0  ( 2 Hits / 5 Bases / 2 RBIs )


  Game 2 - Fri  10/4  Final


     ATL  -  Freddie Freeman :  1 Hit / 2 Bases  ( Double )  0 RBIs  =  0 / 2  ( 2 Hits / 3 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     LAD  -  Hanley Ramirez :  3 Hits / 8 Bases  ( 2 Doubles, Home Run )  3 RBIs  =  2 / 0  ( 5 Hits / 13 Bases / 5 RBIs )

 
  Game 3 - Sun  10/6  Final


     ATL  -  Justin Upton :  2 Hits / 3 Bases  ( Double, Single )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 2  ( 4 Hits / 6 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     LAD  -  Yasiel Puig :  3 Hits / 3 Bases  ( Singles )  2 RBIs  =  2 / 1  ( 8 Hits / 16 Bases / 8 RBIs )


  Game 4 - Mon  10/7  Final


     ATL  -  Evan Gattis :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 3  ( 4 Hits / 6 Bases / 0 RBIs )

     LAD  -  Mark Ellis :  2 Hits / 4 Bases  ( Doubles )  0 RBIs  =  3 / 1  ( 10 Hits / 20 Bases / 8 RBIs )




( MLB - Los Angeles Dodgers beat Atlanta Braves 3/1 )

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0 - Whozey / PIT     vs     0 - Whatzey / STL

            Whozey  leads  Whatzey  2.5 / 1.5 ,  + 2  bases



  Game 1 - Thu  10/5  Final


     PIT  -  Andrew McCutchen :  2 Hits / 2 Bases  ( 2 Singles )  0 RBIs  =  0 / 1  ( 2 Hits / 2 Bases / 2 RBIs )
     
     STL  -  Carlos Beltran :  1 Hit / 4 Bases  ( 1 Home Run )  3 RBIs  =  1 / 0  ( 1 Hit / 4 Bases / 3 RBIs )


  Game 2 - Fri  10/4  Final


     PIT  -  Pedro Alvarez :  2 Hits / 6 Bases  ( Double, Home Run )  2 RBIs  =  1 / 1  ( 4 Hits / 8 Bases / 2 RBIs )

     STL  -  Matt Adams :  2 Hits / 3 Bases  ( Double, Single )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 1  ( 3 Hits / 7 Bases / 3 RBIs )


  Game 3 - Sun  10/6  Final


     PIT  -  Justin Morneau :  1 Hit / 1 Base  ( Single )  0 RBIs  =  2 / 1  ( 5 Hits / 9 Bases / 2 RBIs )

     STL  -  Matt Holliday :  0 Hits / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1 / 2  ( 3 Hits / 7 Bases / 3 RBIs ) 


  Game 4 - Mon  10/7  Final


     PIT  -  Marlon Byrd :  0 Hits /  Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  2.5 / 1.5  ( 5 Hits / 9 Bases / 2 RBIs )

     STL  -  Yadier Molina :  0 His / 0 Bases  ( Nada )  0 RBIs  =  1.5 / 2.5  ( 3 Hits / 7 Bases / 3 RBIs )


  Game 5 - Wed  10/9  500P


     PIT  -  Starling Marte : 

     STL  -  Matt Carpenter : 



( MLB  -  Pittsburgh  Pirates  and  St. Louis  Cardinals  are  tied  2 / 2 )

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** Leaders are marked in red, followers are marked in blue, and ties are marked in purple. All picks are due at the time of that game's start, and in case of a tie, the total bases difference decides the winner, if it's still a tie, then the type of hit decides, (HRs beat Triples, Triples beat Doubles, etc.), if still a tie, then RBIs decide. Missed picks, late picks, and DNPs, will result in a zero score, or minus one base if opponent gets a zero. Thanks to everyone for playing/helping this year, we hope to see you again next season, and try to bring someone new with you ... the more the merrier! **

[Bahku]

** Special thanks to my very worthy opponent and my best blog-mate, ThirstyBoots18, for a great series and especially all the help you give me over the seasons ... winning isn't quite as sweet when it's against you, my friend, (but I'll live with it if I have to ). Hope to see you back in the game next Spring! **

[33-00-32]

Jarrod Saltalamacchia for me in game #4.

[Rondo2287]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base? 

[Rondo2287]

Jarrod Saltalamacchia for me in game #4.

James Loney for me

[Bahku]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

[Rondo2287]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

[Bahku]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

And you could also pay any Joe Schmoe to stand at the base and let the ball go by ... only a skilled player can hit the ball consistently, it'd take some high odds for Joe to even get the bat around in time to be close.

[Bahku]

And I certainly respect your opinion as well, my friend. 

[Rondo2287]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

And you could also pay any Joe Schmoe to stand at the base and let the ball go by ... only a skilled player can hit the ball consistently, it'd take some high odds for Joe to even get the bat around in time to be close.

True, but if a player didnt have the skill to hit the ball the pitcher could just fire them down the middle and not worry about having to pain the corners and risk walking a guy if he misses his spot

[Bahku]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

And you could also pay any Joe Schmoe to stand at the base and let the ball go by ... only a skilled player can hit the ball consistently, it'd take some high odds for Joe to even get the bat around in time to be close.

True, but if a player didnt have the skill to hit the ball the pitcher could just fire them down the middle and not worry about having to pain the corners and risk walking a guy if he misses his spot

I learned a long time ago not to lock horns with you, Buddy, but there are certainly points to both sides.

Doesn't feel right to me ... I probably shouldn't have sounded like it was such an empirical answer, though, lol.

I was trying to make parallels to one of the other games, but couldn't come up with a solid one ... baseball really is pretty unique in that way.

[thirstyboots18]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

And you could also pay any Joe Schmoe to stand at the base and let the ball go by ... only a skilled player can hit the ball consistently, it'd take some high odds for Joe to even get the bat around in time to be close.

True, but if a player didnt have the skill to hit the ball the pitcher could just fire them down the middle and not worry about having to pain the corners and risk walking a guy if he misses his spot

I learned a long time ago not to lock horns with you, Buddy, but there are certainly points to both sides.

Doesn't feel right to me ... I probably shouldn't have sounded like it was such an empirical answer, though, lol.

I was trying to make parallels to one of the other games, but couldn't come up with a solid one ... baseball really is pretty unique in that way.

Sometimes the rules are just the rules.  When I first started playing, I remember thinking every base counted, not just the bases actually gained by a hit.  (If a guy hit a single, but scored, for example, but no...it is bases actually hit by that batter.)  If you want to start another game with different rules, maybe that would be your solution, although I know Bahku and Redz always welcome questions and suggestions.

[Rondo2287]

Has there ever been consideration to adding Walks as one base?

No.

I can't speak for Redz, but a walk takes no talent and is not really "earned", so it makes little sense to me.

This, (and the other Pick-A-Player games), have generally been more about the talent and achievements of the player than just about adding empty stats.

Again, just my opinion ... Redz started all this, it's his creation, so it's really his call, but that's pretty much what I've assumed from the parameters to this point.

Good for discussion, though, if anyone wants to continue or would also like to consider it seriously.

I guess I gave my vote at the top of this post.

I of course respect you opinion, but disagree.   

Say you are watching a 10 pitch Dustin Pedroia at bat in which he battles, fouls off pitches and ultimately draws a walk.  I would argue that takes just as much skill as somebody hitting a seeing eye single up the middle of the infield or something.

And you could also pay any Joe Schmoe to stand at the base and let the ball go by ... only a skilled player can hit the ball consistently, it'd take some high odds for Joe to even get the bat around in time to be close.

True, but if a player didnt have the skill to hit the ball the pitcher could just fire them down the middle and not worry about having to pain the corners and risk walking a guy if he misses his spot

I learned a long time ago not to lock horns with you, Buddy, but there are certainly points to both sides.

Doesn't feel right to me ... I probably shouldn't have sounded like it was such an empirical answer, though, lol.

I was trying to make parallels to one of the other games, but couldn't come up with a solid one ... baseball really is pretty unique in that way.

Sometimes the rules are just the rules.  When I first started playing, I remember thinking every base counted, not just the bases actually gained by a hit.  (If a guy hit a single, but scored, for example, but no...it is bases actually hit by that batter.)  If you want to start another game with different rules, maybe that would be your solution, although I know Bahku and Redz always welcome questions and suggestions.

ya totally, I was just wondering if it had ever been given some thought, especially with moneyball and all the sabremetrics stuff coming about in the last 10 years or so