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9. Kwame Brown: The former No. 1 pick has run out of excuses. Yes, he's huge, athletic and only 25 years old. But after seven years in the league he's yet to prove that he's anything more than a backup. Someone will pay him something, but no one is expecting much.

10. Shaun Livingston: He has amazing talent, but will he ever recover from that horrific knee injury he suffered in 2007? With the Clippers using all of their money on Baron Davis, someone could try to roll the dice.

Other notables: Kwame Brown, Grizzlies, Shaun Livingston, Clippers; Brent Barry, Spurs;

Re: Kwame Brown and Livingston are so desirable, Ford lists them twice.
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 05:37:18 PM »

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I think it would be a huge win if we sign both Kwame and especially Livingston, with or without the Bird Man signing.

Kwame is a good opposite of Perk - a huge stiff that's only good at one half of the game (offense for Kwame, defense for Perk) - combine the two of them and you have one half-decent player!

We all know what Livingston can do but I don't think there's room on the roster for him.  I also don't think he would enjoy another stint as the 3rd string PG behind Cassell.
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Kwame is a good opposite of Perk - a huge stiff that's only good at one half of the game (offense for Kwame, defense for Perk) - combine the two of them and you have one half-decent player!

Wait, what?

Since when was Kwame good at offense?  He averages fewer points per minute than Perk does.  He's a terrible free throw shooter, has "stone hands" that would make Mark Blount blush, and is significantly less efficient than Perk.

Kwame is an okay rebounder.  He's no great shakes on defense, but he's better on that end than he is on offense.

(I'll ignore the shot at Perk, aka the starting center on the World Champion Boston Celtics.)

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Re: Kwame Brown and Livingston are so desirable, Ford lists them twice.
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I think it would be a huge win if we sign both Kwame and especially Livingston, with or without the Bird Man signing.

Kwame is a good opposite of Perk - a huge stiff that's only good at one half of the game (offense for Kwame, defense for Perk) - combine the two of them and you have one half-decent player!

We all know what Livingston can do but I don't think there's room on the roster for him.  I also don't think he would enjoy another stint as the 3rd string PG behind Cassell.

What sport have you been watching BrickJames?! Kwame is a horrible player on both ends of the floor. Perk doesn't deserve to be lumped in with that underachiever. Perk has made the most out of his ability and then some.

Maybe you already started your lifetime self ban on watching the NBA if TA plays next year?! Oh, that was for posting if he plays... Sorry.

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Kwame Brown is to a basketball team as Cigarettes are to the lungs.
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Kwame Brown plays good individual defense on big men who can score, but besides that, he's basically a stonehands. There's always a place for a guy like him in this league though. He isn't totally useless.

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I don't think Kwame is a bad 7th or 8th man. Especially if he's cheap. Plus the kid is only 26.
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What sport have you been watching BrickJames?! Kwame is a horrible player on both ends of the floor.


I believe that I've been watching "basketball", a sport invented by Dr. James Naismith from Canada - and Kwame does have a decent offensive game. To say he's a horrible offensive player is inaccurate. But feel free to be more condescending.

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I think Kwame is not very good now but he has a chance to be a very good backup in the league. He is only 25 that means if he went to four years of college it'd be his 3rd year in the league, no one would quit on an athletic center three years into the league. If he can come reasonably priced (LLE), I see no reason not to pursue him. I think Livingston would be a good pick up. On a seperate note I can't figure out what is gonna happen with Ben Gordon, he isn't going to get the contract he wants from the bulls, probably not from anyone else either. He might sign a one year tender but I feel like it's a lateral move.
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It does take Big Guys a long time to find a nitch in the league, look at guys like Haywood and mikki moore, a lot of big guys don't start producing until 4 or 5 years in the league, this is what Browns 7th? I think he is worth looking at

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so "Soap 07" and "Brick James" must be the same person if you followed the respoinses to the last few posts. I thought this sort of thing wasn't allowed here.

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so "Soap 07" and "Brick James" must be the same person if you followed the respoinses to the last few posts. I thought this sort of thing wasn't allowed here.

Oh Snap!  Check IP addresses, check IP addresses. That would be hilarious.

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so "Soap 07" and "Brick James" must be the same person if you followed the respoinses to the last few posts. I thought this sort of thing wasn't allowed here.

Oh Snap!  Check IP addresses, check IP addresses. That would be hilarious.

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