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Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2018, 04:03:42 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2018, 04:10:02 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.

Against Atlanta? That’s your proof that it’s working? They’ve given up 120+ 9 times already (including 138 and 146 defensive masterpieces), all but one in losses. They are extremely terrible defensively. One quarter does not mean much to me.
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Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2018, 04:14:10 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.

Against Atlanta? That’s your proof that it’s working? They’ve given up 120+ 9 times already (including 138 and 146 defensive masterpieces), all but one in losses. They are extremely terrible defensively. One quarter does not mean much to me.

Well, open your eyes and watch every team drive on us and post up on us in the first quarter of every game. The Mavericks did it in the game the other night and scored 32 in the first quarter.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2018, 04:14:25 PM »

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Here's how the Irving/Horford/Baynes/Tatum/Brown lineup has performed so far this season, from NBA.com stats.

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LINEUPS TEAM GP MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST TOV STL BLK BLKA PF PFD +/-
.A. Horford, .K. Irving, .A. Baynes, .J. Brown, .J. Tatum BOS 7 3.6 7.9 3.0 6.3 47.7 0.7 1.7 41.7 1.1 1.3 88.9 0.4 2.9 3.3 2.3 1.4 0.4 1.4 0.6 1.4 1.3 0.0


Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2018, 04:24:34 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.
And the Celtics scored 30 points in the 1st quarter against the best team in the league, Toronto, also 30 and 31 points against Detroit with Hayward in the starting lineup.

Boston also scored just 18 points against the Knicks and 24 points in the first quarter against Charlotte.

So what exactly is your point?

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2018, 04:26:53 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.
And the Celtics scored 30 points in the 1st quarter against the best team in the league, Toronto, also 30 and 31 points against Detroit with Hayward in the starting lineup.

Boston also scored just 18 points against the Knicks and 24 points in the first quarter against Charlotte.

So what exactly is your point?

What is my point? What is the title of this thread?

 Baynes should start, especially against teams with big talented centers.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2018, 05:04:06 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.
And the Celtics scored 30 points in the 1st quarter against the best team in the league, Toronto, also 30 and 31 points against Detroit with Hayward in the starting lineup.

Boston also scored just 18 points against the Knicks and 24 points in the first quarter against Charlotte.

So what exactly is your point?

What is my point? What is the title of this thread?

 Baynes should start, especially against teams with big talented centers.
I meant your point about the CS getting 45 points against a pathetic Atlanta team. You obviously were implying that Hayward on the bench and Baynes starting was responsible for that 45 points. I showed you Hayward has started games where Boston scored a lot of points and that Baynes started games that where the Celtics scored very little points.

So obviously your point there is wrong.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2018, 08:19:27 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.
And the Celtics scored 30 points in the 1st quarter against the best team in the league, Toronto, also 30 and 31 points against Detroit with Hayward in the starting lineup.

Boston also scored just 18 points against the Knicks and 24 points in the first quarter against Charlotte.

So what exactly is your point?

What is my point? What is the title of this thread?

 Baynes should start, especially against teams with big talented centers.
I meant your point about the CS getting 45 points against a pathetic Atlanta team. You obviously were implying that Hayward on the bench and Baynes starting was responsible for that 45 points. I showed you Hayward has started games where Boston scored a lot of points and that Baynes started games that where the Celtics scored very little points.

So obviously your point there is wrong.

No, it is not.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2018, 09:25:04 PM »

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So is it safe to say that getting Hayward out of a starting position and Baynes into the starting lineup has made absolutely no difference whatsoever, especially given Baynes is still playing limited minutes while Hayward is still around 30 MPG since his being moved to the bench?

When Baynes started the other night, we scored 45 points in the first quarter.
And the Celtics scored 30 points in the 1st quarter against the best team in the league, Toronto, also 30 and 31 points against Detroit with Hayward in the starting lineup.

Boston also scored just 18 points against the Knicks and 24 points in the first quarter against Charlotte.

So what exactly is your point?

What is my point? What is the title of this thread?

 Baynes should start, especially against teams with big talented centers.
I meant your point about the CS getting 45 points against a pathetic Atlanta team. You obviously were implying that Hayward on the bench and Baynes starting was responsible for that 45 points. I showed you Hayward has started games where Boston scored a lot of points and that Baynes started games that where the Celtics scored very little points.

So obviously your point there is wrong.

No, it is not.
Except the numbers say differently.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2018, 10:59:07 AM »

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Where has Hayward been the last few games?  I kind of expected him to be rounding into form in December, but in his last three games he scored 5 pts and registered two DNP's.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2018, 11:05:33 AM »

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Where has Hayward been the last few games?  I kind of expected him to be rounding into form in December, but in his last three games he scored 5 pts and registered two DNP's.

5 points in a blowout win isn't a big deal. He's been sick the last two games.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2018, 11:16:57 AM »

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Where has Hayward been the last few games?  I kind of expected him to be rounding into form in December, but in his last three games he scored 5 pts and registered two DNP's.

5 points in a blowout win isn't a big deal. He's been sick the last two games.
A bug is going around the team.  That's why Brown and Yabusele were out too.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2018, 11:42:41 AM »

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Where has Hayward been the last few games?  I kind of expected him to be rounding into form in December, but in his last three games he scored 5 pts and registered two DNP's.

5 points in a blowout win isn't a big deal. He's been sick the last two games.
A bug is going around the team.  That's why Brown and Yabusele were out too.
Yabusele is out for a while with a severely sprained ankle.

Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2018, 02:56:49 PM »

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Where has Hayward been the last few games?  I kind of expected him to be rounding into form in December, but in his last three games he scored 5 pts and registered two DNP's.

Today’s daily Hayward post from IDreamAboutHaywardAllThe Time aka Jae Crowder’s alter ego  :laugh:
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Re: Baynes starting, Hayward off the bench
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2018, 03:17:56 PM »

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Hayward has probably already peaked as a player.  Unlikely he will ever play as well as he did his lone all-star season.  That said, I think he might start looking like himself again (16ppg, 44% from the field 36% from three) after the allstar break.