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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0

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The onus isn't on us to prove you wrong on such a wild claim. He has 1/10 the motor KP has
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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too

Nope....Not seeing it.  One highlight film proves nothing.   But Zinger has a way better vertical and is a proven NBA player whereas Bol Bol is a human question mark.  Here is a sports science on Porzingas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YCAzsPktGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFV0-WK0dJk

No way is Bol Bol more fluid.   You seen some Bol videos but you must not have looked at Porzingas ones, eh?
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In this weak draft, you have to consider taking him. More upside than anyone other than Williamson. But great risk for sure.

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I can help but to visualize Smart destroying him in the post
 ;D ;D ;D
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I can help but to visualize Smart destroying him in the post
 ;D ;D ;D
208lbs and he's 7'2 :o I think PBev and Smart would easily be able to push him around, let alone actual big men
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C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0

I have no idea, but I do know if you believe there's even a 10% chance this guy enters Porzingas' stratosphere you draft him.  Danny's never actually drafted a player that made an exponential leap so he's due.


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Hope im wrong but i think Bol will be a bust
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To OP, wow, you couldn't be more wrong. I dont even need to explain it.

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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0

I have no idea, but I do know if you believe there's even a 10% chance this guy enters Porzingas' stratosphere you draft him.  Danny's never actually drafted a player that made an exponential leap so he's due.
Given that maybe we draft 4 Giannis'
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0

I have no idea, but I do know if you believe there's even a 10% chance this guy enters Porzingas' stratosphere you draft him.  Danny's never actually drafted a player that made an exponential leap so he's due.

So what would you call the leap Rondo made? (And no, us telling the Suns to pick him as part of a trade does not mean that we didn't pick him)
I'm bitter.

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I wouldn’t hesitate to draft him with our picks in the 20’s. I would even package both to move up (after 14, if it’s traded) for him.

Yes he’s frail, but they can easily pack 20lb onto his frame in an offseason. If they can get him to 250 in a couple years, his durability will be so much better.

He’s very talented (he shot 52% from 3!), and obviously the length is incredible.
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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0

I have no idea, but I do know if you believe there's even a 10% chance this guy enters Porzingas' stratosphere you draft him.  Danny's never actually drafted a player that made an exponential leap so he's due.

So what would you call the leap Rondo made? (And no, us telling the Suns to pick him as part of a trade does not mean that we didn't pick him)
Since AB we basically have a decade of no picks making unforeseen leaps, so we're due!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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I wouldn’t hesitate to draft him with our picks in the 20’s. I would even package both to move up (after 14, if it’s traded) for him.

Yes he’s frail, but they can easily pack 20lb onto his frame in an offseason. If they can get him to 250 in a couple years, his durability will be so much better.

He’s very talented (he shot 52% from 3!), and obviously the length is incredible.

We've all seen his dad so I don't think it should be assumed that he can pack on the pounds. And that's okay. He can still be an effective player in this league if he has the desire (and that seems to be his biggest issue right now). Putting too much weight on a body that can't support it is a recipe for disaster.

I would still be happy to take a flyer on him, although I assume another team picking a little higher will take the chance - kind of what happened with Thon Maker.

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Injury concern aside. Do you agree?


he's a faster more fluid ball handling kristap. Better on D too


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAw8ICwubK0
I think a week from tonight, when pick 20 or so rolls around and he's still on the board, you'll have your answer as to whether or not NBA GMs think he's a better version of Porzingis.

Personally speaking, I wouldn't touch him. He looks awkward even when he's walking. An injury just waiting to happen every time he steps foot on the floor.