Will Marcus Smart ever shoot 40%? Part 3

[hwangjini_1]

His three point shooting seems streaky this season as well. First few months it was bad. Then starting in December he was fine to good for a few months. Then as of late he has sucked.

He can shoot three pointers, but he needs to be set and in control and in the corner. Why CBS lets him shoot puzzles me the same way it puzzled me that CBS let sully loft up so many threes.

[Dino Pitino]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

[tankcity!]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

[Ilikesports17]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Marcus is already better offensively than TA.

[RJ87]

Will Marcus Smart ever shoot 40%?

Given that he only shot 41% from the field in college - where he got by on bullying his way to the rim - I don't know if he ever will.

[tankcity!]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Marcus is already better offensively than TA.

I disagree. I think Allen was better at finishing, and he had a nice little mid-range game. He wasn't bad offensively at all before he tore his ACL on offense.

Smart is a better ballhandler, passing, PG stuff. I personally think Allen has proven to be a better defender than Smart thus far. I've seen Allen give players like KD trouble.  I would advise you look at KD's stats in the playoffs against Memphis. Allen has always been able to guard elite players. I cannot say that for Smart, who I've seen get burned by Paul George and Durant to name a few. When I brought this up, people said Smart's height was the reason, but my counter is that it doesn't effect Tony Allen who is listed at the same height.

[Dino Pitino]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Aren't there stats for that now? Somewhere in some analytic website's excel sheet is Smart's percentage on wide open threes in normal shot clock conditions. I bet it's better than you'd expect.

[tankcity!]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Aren't there stats for that now? Somewhere in some analytic website's excel sheet is Smart's percentage on wide open threes in normal shot clock conditions. I bet it's better than you'd expect.

I disagree, but if you find it, please share. Would be great if Smart was good at hitting wide open 3's.

[celtics2030]

What is next? The shot clock is too low excuse? 

[Ilikesports17]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Marcus is already better offensively than TA.

I disagree. I think Allen was better at finishing, and he had a nice little mid-range game. He wasn't bad offensively at all before he tore his ACL on offense.

Smart is a better ballhandler, passing, PG stuff. I personally think Allen has proven to be a better defender than Smart thus far. I've seen Allen give players like KD trouble.  I would advise you look at KD's stats in the playoffs against Memphis. Allen has always been able to guard elite players. I cannot say that for Smart, who I've seen get burned by Paul George and Durant to name a few. When I brought this up, people said Smart's height was the reason, but my counter is that it doesn't effect Tony Allen who is listed at the same height.

if Allen hadnt torn his ACL he would have been better than Marcus on O.

he tore it. He is a better finisher than Smart, he is more explosive than Smart and he is/was a better on-ball defender than Marcus.

The rest, I give the advantage to Marcus, passing and handling are not insignificant. Smart is good in the post and in pick and roll, Smart is a probably a tiny bit more versatile although he isnt able to lock wings down like Allen could. Not too surprising as TA is 1.5 inches taller than Marcus.

[Ilikesports17]

What is next? The shot clock is too low excuse? 

what time period is this referencing?

[celtics2030]

What is next? The shot clock is too low excuse? 

what time period is this referencing?

This season.

[Ilikesports17]

Himmelsbach doesn't quite get it, either.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/04/03/marcus-smart-looking-for-way-out-shooting-slump/63rBDpDJnAW73s02t8INNM/story.html

There are other types of desperation shots besides strictly beyond halfcourt ones. Subtract all of them, and his percentages significantly improve. Even if it's just 0.5 a game, a grand total of 37 in 74 games, that would turn his current season percentages to 38.4 overall and 30.5 from three, not nearly good but not quite abominable either, just pretty bad.

Lol it's been a while since I've seen you on this board. Glad to see you're still making excuses for Smart.

Like I've been saying after watching Smart in his rookie year, the dude can hopefully become Tony Allen at this point. I had hope he would be more, but this past run has been a disappointment. The Celtics could really use him for spacing purposes. It would help out the offense a lot if he could hit a open 3.

Aren't there stats for that now? Somewhere in some analytic website's excel sheet is Smart's percentage on wide open threes in normal shot clock conditions. I bet it's better than you'd expect.

this season Marcus is shooting 31% on catch and shoot threes and 17% on pull-ups
He is shooting 34% on shots in the "average" range of the shotclock(15-7 seconds). Every other time period is pretty awful.

with a defender within 0-2 feet("very tight") he is shooting 14.3% on threes
within 2-4 feet("tight"): 26%
4-6("open"):32%
6+(very open):25%

Last year the numbers were completely different
He was awful catch and shoot and really good on pull-ups (37%)
He was really good early in the shot clock (by Marcus Smart standards) and historically bad in the middle of shot-clocks
He shot his best percentage with defenders within 2 feet of him.

His rookie numbers finally make some Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing sense.

He was really good in catch and shoot. bad off the dribble. Terrible at the end of the shot clock, pretty good in the beginning, and made 40% of open threes.

Overall he is a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing mystery, but a mystery that is really Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing bad at shooting threes.

[Dino Pitino]

What is next? The shot clock is too low excuse? 

18 shots 30 feet away or longer. All desperation heaves. If only another 19 threes among the 154 threes 29 feet or closer were taken under duress in desperation after a play breaks down at the end of a shot clock and more towards 29 than 25 feet then we're at 38.4% overall and 30.5% from three.

[Ilikesports17]

What is next? The shot clock is too low excuse? 

18 shots 30 feet away or longer. All desperation heaves. If only another 19 threes among the 154 threes 29 feet or closer were taken under duress in desperation after a play breaks down at the end of a shot clock and more towards 29 than 25 feet then we're at 38.4% overall and 30.5% from three.

again, this is a bit unfair as every player has a small percentage of desperation shots thrown into their percentages.