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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: Beat LA on October 18, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
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I know that we're all focused on Gordo's ankle at the moment, but there is, in fact, another game taking place right now between the new-look Rockets and the Warriors, so yeah.
Anyway:
Hayward's injury - horrific.
Not getting killed on the boards - encouraging.
Cleveland's defense - atrocious.
Marv Albert saying "Swaggy P" on national television? Priceless :laugh:.
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Rockets are not looking like the superteam hyped them up to be so far.
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Rockets on a run after Draymond left.
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Wow, Rockets spoiled Warriors' championship ceremony.
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This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs
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This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs
I really don't want to. That would mean the East is even worse than most people expect and the East playoffs would be really ugly.
As it stands the NBA really has to be hoping that the Sixers make the playoffs. They need some good storylines to get people to watch and that's probably not coming from Detroit or Charlotte. if somehow a Bucks/Sixers matchup in the 1st round occurred, that would be perfect.
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Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
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Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
Can't get over Fultz's free throw motion.
I was really high on him pre draft, but I'm not sure if I was right to be
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This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs
Hope so.
Let those scoundrels in Cleveland (Jae, Zizic and Isaiah excluded) settle on some pick in the 20s ;D :laugh:
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Philly will look great in some games, horrible in others.
Lots of variance w/ turnovers, defense, and shooting.
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Gosh, those T'Wolves jerseys are ugly!
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Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer. Active cutters. Lots of shooters.
Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
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Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer. Active cutters. Lots of shooters.
Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
did they end up giving aldridge the extention? or were they waiting to do it later?
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Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer. Active cutters. Lots of shooters.
Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
did they end up giving aldridge the extention? or were they waiting to do it later?
already did
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2739030-report-lamarcus-aldridge-spurs-agree-to-3-year-72-million-contract-extension
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Suns got destroyed. Putting in their claim as the worst team in the league early.
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Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
Can't get over Fultz's free throw motion.
I was really high on him pre draft, but I'm not sure if I was right to be
I literally just said this exact thing in another thread
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Suns got demolished. Tyson Chandler Buy Out Watch in full effect.
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Did anybody else notice the Pacers attempted 102 shots and 32 free throws against the Nets last night?
How is that possible without overtime? That's crazy.
Pacers had 8 players in double figures, 3 of whom had 20+.
Is it possible that the Pacers could be fun this year?
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Another guy injured on the Knicks.
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Did anybody else notice the Pacers attempted 102 shots and 32 free throws against the Nets last night?
How is that possible without overtime? That's crazy.
Pacers had 8 players in double figures, 3 of whom had 20+.
Is it possible that the Pacers could be fun this year?
They have a sneaky good (or at least fun) team.
PG: D.Collison
SG: Oladipo
SF: Bogdanovic
PF: Thad Young
C: Myles Turner
5 guys who can all shoot the ball with range.
4 guys who can handle and pass the ball.
Good quickness & athleticism.
Some decent bench players too in Corey Joseph, Lance Stephenson, TJ Leaf (who I like the look of) and Sabonis. I was happy Big Al didn't play. Instead they went with the younger more active big bodies of Sabonis and Leaf. I hope they continue to do that. I think those young guys are better than Big Al (sadly).
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We have the Bulls and the Suns looking worse than the Nets so far. We need Lakers to stunk it up too.
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OKC is gonna be really, really good this year.
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Hate admitting it, but I'm about to watch this Lakers game because of Lonzo Ball.
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Hate admitting it, but I'm about to watch this Lakers game because of Lonzo Ball.
Me too, but at least it's because of the 30 yr old rookie for the Clips.. c'mon man Celtic pride!! Jk
That said, I do expect Milos to run circles around Lavar's boy.
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Sheesh Brandon Ingram is rail thin.
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Milos!!
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Still not buying Ball as an elite talent. Just don't see it.
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Sheesh Brandon Ingram is rail thin.
And they said he put on weight.
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Man gotta be honest. This Lakers team is fun to w.... :-X
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Blake Griffin can still dunk.
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Nah... they are terrible actually...
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At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.
Oh yeah, and this ::) -
From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.
Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer
Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
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Just the first half, but so far Brown and Tatum >>>> Ingram and Ball.
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At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.
Oh yeah, and this ::) -
From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.
Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer
Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
i don't think he knows what "immediate family" means..
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I'm watching Lakers/Clippers. That pick is going to be gold. The Lakers play no defense and can't shoot. It's going to be a long season for them....
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I see a lot of Rondo in Ball. They're both elite passers and rebounders with excellent court vision, but neither can play in the halfcourt set like they can the open court.
However, Ball isn't near the defender that Rondo was before his knee injury, and he can't get to the bucket like Rondo could. Ball is probably a bit better shooter, though not enough that it will ultimately matter.
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Why is Ingram posting up Jordan? LOL
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The Lakers are so fun to watch.
By fun I mean I am enjoying them fail so much. ;D
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At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.
Oh yeah, and this ::) -
From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.
Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer
Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
i don't think he knows what "immediate family" means..
Lol, TP :laugh:. At least they didn't have to pay for the tickets, though. I'd demand a refund if that was the case after this, umm, performance? :laugh:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMf-R3jWsAAVMhY?format=jpg)
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Why is there a Jaylen Brown pic here? ;D
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Lakers laked but Ball is such a great passer, he is probably going avg. a lot of rebounds too.
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Minnesota look good. A little unsure of how to run their offense with those three 20ppg threats and Teague at the point ... but a lot of firepower and some good role players.
Wiggins looks really good. More efficient in his actions offensively.
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Hmm, GS struggling to contain NO's size. Would love to see that first round matchup. While it would hurt our AD pursuit, I could see this NO team knocking off GS if Cousins and AD can figure out how to thrive together. They just have too much size for GS to handle.
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WOW! Nikola Vucevic with 41 points and 12 rebounds in 35 minutes (17-22 shooting).
But in a losing effort to the Brooklyn Nets.
If it weren't for his contract (about 12-13 M/Year) I would love him as a trade candidate or something involving the Disabled Player exception (if that was possible).
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So Lopez gets a flagrant on the similar play but Lebron gets away from it unpenalized?
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WOW! Nikola Vucevic with 41 points and 12 rebounds in 35 minutes (17-22 shooting).
But in a losing effort to the Brooklyn Nets.
If it weren't for his contract (about 12-13 M/Year) I would love him as a trade candidate or something involving the Disabled Player exception (if that was possible).
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Wow, The Refs in the lakers/Suns game are horrible. I've been watching for 5 minutes and at least a half dozen bad calls including Lopez dribble the ball on the out of bounds line and no ref was even looking at the ball.
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Wow, The Refs in the lakers/Suns game are horrible. I've been watching for 5 minutes and at least a half dozen bad calls including Lopez dribble the ball on the out of bounds line and no ref was even looking at the ball.
Yeah, I had to turn it off. The Lakers and Suns are both terrible, and the refs seem to know it and mentally checked out.
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Yeah, this Lakers pick is going to be golden. Giving up 73 points to the Suns in a half is... not good.
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Lonzo Ball is forrealz. 29/11/9...near triple double.
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Cavs frontcourt getting exposed by Vucevic.
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This Grizzlies team is absolutely giving it to the Warriors. I think they have a bit of a championship hangover going on.
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Superteams getting blown up today. Magic up by 25+ against the Cavs and Utah up 17 against OKC.
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Superteams getting blown up today. Magic up by 25+ against the Cavs and Utah up 17 against OKC.
GS also down 11 with 8 minutes to go against the Grizz.
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Curry and Durant got ejected! :o
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Lol Curry and Durant both ejected in a losing effort to Memphis. Curry threw his mouthpiece and hit a ref, so he might be suspended, too, though I bet he gets the superstar treatment and no suspension. ::)
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Ok, so we are now tied with the GSWs who lost last night, 1-2 just like the Celtics. At least we lost an all-star player and have a whole new roster of players that are learning a new system and each other's games, what's GS's excuse?
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Lol Curry and Durant both ejected in a losing effort to Memphis. Curry threw his mouthpiece and hit a ref, so he might be suspended, too, though I bet he gets the superstar treatment and no suspension. ::)
What an idiot. He deserves a suspension for that. NBA champions showing a lack of class and sportsmanship after sucking to start the season.
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The way Rudy Gobert plays is a thing of beauty.
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I thought I would watch King’s vs Nuggets to see all the young players. It’s some of the worst basketball I’ve ever watched. No fundamentals and no awareness. We’re spoiled in Boston. It could be so, so, so, so, so, so much worse.
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Giannis is so good it isn't even fair. Milwaukee have maybe one other truly above average starter on that team.
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
Guy is still a loser.
Okay look, I'll admit, if he signed with Boston, I'd be biased and defend him here :laugh:
But from taking the easy route, to it being revealed he created fake accounts to defend himself, to this.... ::)
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
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Blake looks really good so far this year. I’m sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
I think Lebron wouldve dropped 100 on you.
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
lebron got robbed finals mvp. Lebrons stats were better
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Blake looks really good so far this year. I’m sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.
He looks healthier and there's no Chris Paul meaning the ball is in his hands a lot so Blake can get creative.
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Greek freak dropped 44/8/4 lol
Wonder if the refs helped
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Greek freak dropped 44/8/4 lol
Wonder if the refs helped
Didn’t see the entire game, but from what I did see, he earned it. Utter dominance.
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Kevin Durant is such a BABY.
Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand. ::)
SNAKE.
So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
lebron got robbed finals mvp. Lebrons stats were better
sure his stats were better
but it doesn't mean anything if you don't play defense
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In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and the Pacers :o :o
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Blake looks really good so far this year. I’m sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.
I think the demise of Blake Griffin has been greatly exaggerated by the media.
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In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and the Pacers :o :o
I don't believe that Turner played in that game...
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In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and the Pacers :o :o
I don't believe that Turner played in that game...
No, he didn't.
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So Dedmon has now expanded his range to the 3pt line.
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Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.
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Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.
And the Warriors! :laugh:
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Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.
And the Warriors! :laugh:
Yep! That pick we gave the Cavs would be around 28-30 if this would hold up for the whole season ;D
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Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC. After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
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Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC. After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
final 5 minutes Carmelo had 3 pts and Paul george had 0. Lol
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Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC. After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
I liked the play Donovan drew up for that Melo shot.
It made Minny commit 2 defenders when WB drove to the basket on the side. WB made a good read, kicked it back and Melo got a nice look out of it. He has always been a great clutch shotmaker.
But Wiggy hit a prayer, nothing you can do about it. (except contest harder and not foul next time)
We could be looking at this years 4/5 West 1. round playoff matchup here and this is a nice appetizer.
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Man, Fultz doesn't even look at the rim unless he's right at the basket. He's laying off all kinds of pull-ups that he regularly took in college.
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Drummond really have a poor BBIQ.
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Man, Fultz doesn't even look at the rim unless he's right at the basket. He's laying off all kinds of pull-ups that he regularly took in college.
Its mental. He isn't even considering shooting it.
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Hawks really gunning for that #1 pick ;D
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So Dedmon has now expanded his range to the 3pt line.
I honestly don't understand the obsession with getting big men with their main natural talents close to the basket, pulling them out of the key, and getting them to shoot threes.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4. Sixers about to take down a godawful looking Pistons team.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4. Sixers about to take down a godawful looking Pistons team.
AB ....going for 35 points ? Save em AB ! ;D
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Stanley Johnson still hasn't figure it out apparently.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.
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Serge Ibaka 46 year old .
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.
PHX players are all hoping to be included in any Bledsoe trade. PHX vying with the NYK for #1 ClusterF front office.
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This Suns/Kings game is almost unwatchable.
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.
PHX players are all hoping to be included in any Bledsoe trade. PHX vying with the NYK for #1 ClusterF front office.
The Bulls and Kings have something to say about that.
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Gia may very well win MVP.
Wowza!
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.
One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.
One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.
It's p standard in the Euroleague. eg last year Pedoulakis resigned in mid-October from Panathinaikos' HC. I think it brings good short term results, but the long term benefits are debatable (unless the coach happens to be as bad as Pedoulakis, in which case you don't have to think about it twice).
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Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.
One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.
See it regularly here in Australia with the AFL, where players panic a bit when a coach gets fired and perform above their normal level in order to ensure their spot
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
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This article on Kelly Oubre Jr had some good stuff.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/20/16506934/kelly-oubre-wizards-bench-depth
The Ringer also published an article on Fultz: less original, more of a summary of what has happened the last few months. Links to the fans tweets was the part I liked the most.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/23/16518782/markelle-fultz-sixers-early-season-panic
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season. Similar to the MVP in that regard. And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards. Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams. Just the nature of the beast.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season. Similar to the MVP in that regard. And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards. Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams. Just the nature of the beast.
So you’re telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams?
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season. Similar to the MVP in that regard. And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards. Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams. Just the nature of the beast.
So you’re telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams?
No he didn't say that. He said stats is the key factor in both awards, but lotto rookies are often on bad teams. This is same thing I said.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season. Similar to the MVP in that regard. And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards. Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams. Just the nature of the beast.
So you’re telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams?
No he didn't say that. He said stats is the key factor in both awards, but lotto rookies are often on bad teams. This is same thing I said.
Okay — sounded to me like he was disagreeing with you.
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Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
Is there a written description somewhere of what the ROY is supposed to be? I've never thought of it as going to the "best potential", but rather to the rookie having the best season. Are you just making this up?
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https://twitter.com/cavs/status/922848905196339207
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So the Cavaliers are locked into a tight one with the Bulls.... ???
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So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.
Is that what happened?
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So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.
Is that what happened?
Good for the LA pick...
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MRI for Anthony Davis....uh oh.
hope this is nothing, too many injuries
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21146539/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-injures-knee-game-vs-portland-trail-blazers (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21146539/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-injures-knee-game-vs-portland-trail-blazers)
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So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.
Is that what happened?
Jimmy Butler didn't play. The Pacers also went 10/22 from three. And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.
I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces. CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
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https://twitter.com/AdamReisinger/status/922998992685842432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fnba%2F
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So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.
Is that what happened?
Jimmy Butler didn't play. The Pacers also went 10/22 from three. And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.
I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces. CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
Towns and Wiggins are still continuing their poor defensive play. If they can't play average defense, I'd expect the TWolves to fall short of expectations again.
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So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.
Is that what happened?
Jimmy Butler didn't play. The Pacers also went 10/22 from three. And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.
I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces. CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
Towns and Wiggins are still continuing their poor defensive play. If they can't play average defense, I'd expect the TWolves to fall short of expectations again.
If they can't play D, Thibs is gonna blow a gasket.
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Lauri Markkanen was really stroking the ball last night. He might be better than i thought he would be.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
What’s with your digs at Westbrook. They weren’t really that good because they just weren’t. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
What’s with your digs at Westbrook. They weren’t really that good because they just weren’t. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.
Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.
Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show. Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.
It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
What’s with your digs at Westbrook. They weren’t really that good because they just weren’t. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.
Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.
Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show. Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.
It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.
Sounds exactly like what I said about IT4. It didn't matter what the others guys did to help out, they just got carried on his shoulders in most people's eyes.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
What’s with your digs at Westbrook. They weren’t really that good because they just weren’t. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.
Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.
Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show. Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.
It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.
Oladipo didn't set the world on fire in his 3 season with the Magic. Four games into the season is way too early to draw conclusions. The Pacers have played Nets, Blazers, Heat and TWolves (without Butler) who are rather weak defensive teams.
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Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.
Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.
Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
They both are starting out strong but that trade was still terrible.
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Why is D-lo not playing right now?
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Why is D-lo not playing right now?
Minor knee sprain. He's day to day.
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Its disgusting to see LeBaby whine to the refs without getting T's.
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Its disgusting to see LeBaby whine to the refs without getting T's.
The one constant with NBA refs, babying 'Bron....
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Philly has Houston on the Rox w/1:07 left
World is upside down.
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Eric Gordon buzzer-beater 3 to take the Sixers down by 1!
Harden with some awful defense throughout but a huge block late then the assist to Gordon. Philly defended the play pretty well too.
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Philly has Houston on the Rox w/1:07 left
World is upside down.
Sixers blew it, like usual.
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Eric Gordon buzzer-beater 3 to take the Sixers down by 1!
Harden with some awful defense throughout but a huge block late then the assist to Gordon. Philly defended the play pretty well too.
I was not sure who to even root for in that game. I want philly to win so that the lakers pick has a better chance to come to us. I don't really like Harden so I am not excited about him winning anymore. Philly look like they had that game in the bag...then they just stopped scoring.
Go Nets against the Cavs though!
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"Trust the Proc...."
Lol. I was watching the Cavs/Nets game and missed it, but so glad the Rockets came back and beat them.
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Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!
I feel so dirty rooting for Brooklyn after 3+ years of always rooting for losses. :P
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Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!
I feel so dirty rooting for Cleveland after 3+ years of always rooting for losses. :P
do you mean you feel dirty rooting for the Nets?
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Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!
I feel so dirty rooting for Cleveland after 3+ years of always rooting for losses. :P
do you mean you feel dirty rooting for the Nets?
Oops lol Yep!
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Clint Cappella just personally ate Philly
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
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Nets with the win against the Cavs. Gotta love it.
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Nets with the win against the Cavs. Gotta love it.
Sean Marks has done a good job getting some talent on that Nets team without all those top 1st rounders.
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Cavs lost
Nets win
All we need is another L on the Laker's column and call it a day ;D
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The T Wolves have definitely underachieved. And the Nets just beat the Cavs so there's that
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Nets with the win against the Cavs. Gotta love it.
Sean Marks has done a good job getting some talent on that Nets team without all those top 1st rounders.
Yeah I was impressed that they held on at the end of that game. Absolutely no expectations on the Nets and they are playing like it.
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double whammy for the Cavs. Probably same pain I felt when we lost to the Nets couple of years ago. Lose to anyone just not to the ones you want to suck badly.
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There you go! Down go the Cavs, to the Nets! They hurt their own asset all by themselves.
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
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Danny Ainge is smiling somewhere right about now
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Time to watch John wall destroy ball
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Jordan Clarkson tends to do well against the Wiz and they have Brook Lopez now. I don't think this is a slam dunk for the Wiz by any means
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable. Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects. Also Covington's success as an undrafted player.
The Sixers were actually playing a top team. They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets. Their next game is against the Rockets too. Don't see how they are overrated. They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy. The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season.
If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
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Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal
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Those are some ugly, ugly Lakers jerseys.
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Mike Scott is a ball stopper.
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They're wearing the Minneapolis jersey
Meeks is playing like ray allen tonight against the terrible faker defense
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable. Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects. Also Covington's success as an undrafted player.
The Sixers were actually playing a top team. They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets. Their next game is against the Rockets too. Don't see how they are overrated. They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy. The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season.
If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
Tazz I feel like you are a lot smarter than not getting this. A team in our division (who we also swapped first round picks with) blew an 8 point lead in the final 63 seconds to a popular team with an MVP candidate missing 3 rotation players (on a buzzer beater no less) You are surprised there are more comments on that game than the timberwolves losing a game missing butler to an irrelevant team like the pistons? What game would you expect more comments on... you post too much here to not get this
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
Tazz I feel like you are a lot smarter than not getting this. A team in our division (who we also swapped first round picks with) blew an 8 point lead in the final 63 seconds to a popular team with an MVP candidate missing 3 rotation players (on a buzzer beater no less) You are surprised there are more comments on that game than the timberwolves losing a game missing butler to an irrelevant team like the pistons? What game would you expect more comments on... you post too much here to not get this
I didn't say I was surprised. Just find the constant need some folks on here have to jump through hoops to the knock the Sixers rather silly and disproportionate. Of course not being from the Boston area gives me a different perspective. Phillies were my favorite baseball team growing up and while a Celtics fan I liked the Sixers of the 80s too. My dislike of New York and Los Angeles teams was acquired not inherited.
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable. Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects. Also Covington's success as an undrafted player.
The Sixers were actually playing a top team. They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets. Their next game is against the Rockets too. Don't see how they are overrated. They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy. The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season.
If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
So Houston is overrated too. Sounds like besides GSW and ourselves every team is overrated.
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Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal
Also Jackson to the bench?
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Have The Lakers only played home games so far this year? Oh and one game against The Suns....
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Do you think Mark Jackson has all those cliches written down or does he have them memorized?
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Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal
Also Jackson to the bench?
A coaching change sometimes creates a positive change at least in the short term. Shakes up the status quo. Some "out of favor" players might have another chance to prove themselves.
Bledsoe situation shows that the young teams need veteran leadership mantra is easier said than done. There aren't many veterans that have the temperament to provide leadership to young players on a really bad team especially when those young players are taking your minutes.
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Wizards blowing their lead, ugh.
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Rookie kuzma makes a huge mistake i think he traveled lol
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Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
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Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
Beal have no business bricking it. It Lakers hit a 3, they're dead.
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Atleast if the Lakers do win, there will be a good soundbite by Lavar
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We're in OT. wiz up 2
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Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
They never call lane violations anymore.
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Kuzma offensive interference lol
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Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
They never call lane violations anymore.
I get that but in a 2 pt game on a free throw? Kind of could throw the game 1 way or another especially since Randle got the rebound
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And wizards gave up and didn't even foul. Lol
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Scott Brooks is just an awful coach. The Wizards looked terrible the entire 2nd half. No ball movement. No significant adjustments made. And apparently they don't know how to foul with the game on the line.
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Scott Brooks is just an awful coach. The Wizards looked terrible the entire 2nd half. No ball movement. No significant adjustments made. And apparently they don't know how to foul with the game on the line.
Yup. This game had the signs of terrible coaching on the wiz.
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Wizards chocked that away, hard!
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It's not just Brooks, it's players also. This Wizards team is full of crap, they play iso ball all the time, play with 6-7 men rotation and most of all, they seem so arogant like they won it all at least a three times in a row. OMG. I just watched the last quarter and ot, and I'm sick of basketball. God we are so spoiled with our team and Brad...
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^ yup. Whenever I see that guy Oubre shoot a wide open 3, he bricks it.
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Herculean effort by the Wiz to gag this game away. A couple awful missed calls by the refs too.
Makes me want to vomit.
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable. Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects. Also Covington's success as an undrafted player.
The Sixers were actually playing a top team. They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets. Their next game is against the Rockets too. Don't see how they are overrated. They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy. The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season.
If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
I watched a replay of the Pistons game in full, it was their 3rd game in 4 nights but i got to say that the Wolves lacked any sense of urgency defensively , i know that it was without Butler , but it is almost as if Towns and Wiggins selfishness on the offensive end carries over to the team onto the defensive end. 3 or 4 ball reversals resulted in a tonne of wide open looks, I think they are dead last in the league in defensive field goal percentage now, early days i know but the signs aren't great on that end for them.
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So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets. No shame in that. Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.
While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).
But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable. Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects. Also Covington's success as an undrafted player.
The Sixers were actually playing a top team. They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets. Their next game is against the Rockets too. Don't see how they are overrated. They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy. The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season.
If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
So Houston is overrated too. Sounds like besides GSW and ourselves every team is overrated.
Nice straw man. But, yes, I think those three teams in particular are overrated, especially without Paul, which you conveniently didn't mention.
And, for your information, I thought the Celtics were underrated. ;)
But keep on protecting your Sixers lovechild....on Celticsblog for whatever reason. #TTP
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Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4
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Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4
WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd
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Monster game by Boogie
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Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4
WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd
make that 41/23/6
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Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4
WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd
Ended up with a monstrous 41/23/6
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Below is an analysis of the Bulls season so far.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/78vsq1/the_bulls_are_finally_playing_the_way_fred/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=nba
tl;dr They are playing at a faster pace and shooting lots of 3s, which is prolly what Hoiberg wanted all along.
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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/10/sixers-working-with-jahlil-okafor-to-find-suitable-trade.html
Okafor back on the trading block with both sides actively seeking a trade.
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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/10/sixers-working-with-jahlil-okafor-to-find-suitable-trade.html
Okafor back on the trading block with both sides actively seeking a trade.
I remember a time (summer of 2016) when people on here were advocating trading pick #3 (Jaylen) in a package for Okafor, with Smart thrown in as a "sweetener" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Can we get Okafor with the DPE? Give them a few seconds too.
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give m Yabu and Nader
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The Magic looking really good, with DJ Augustin starting and Nikolva Vucevic putting up 25-10, is probably the most mystifying part of the start to this season.
And a bench of Shelvin Mack, Jon Simmons, Jon Isaac, Bismack Biyombo.
Nik Vucevic, speaking generally, is a weird player. He's been a double double machine for years, and he's huge. He has decent assists for a center. He can shoot a little. But he barely averages 50% from the field over most of his career, and he hardly ever gets to the free throw line.
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WOW Magic up 61-34 vs Spurs at halftime! :o
If they hold on, Magic will start the season 4-1.
Might help us a bit in regards to Lakers pick too.
UPDATE: Apologies as @phosita already posted this just 2 minutes before I submitted this post. I wasn't aware.
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how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
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how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
Its Magic ;)
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how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
Apparently, the answer is to NOT play Elfrid Payton.
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how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
Its Magic ;)
mage
māj
noun archaic literary
a magician or learned person.
Might explain why there playing so well...
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Wizards actually looking pretty dang good right now. Granted, it's when they go to their bench that they lose games.
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how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
Its Magic ;)
mage
māj
noun archaic literary
a magician or learned person.
Might explain why there playing so well...
Eh you get me wrong. I was talking about how/why they were playing so well. Im a gamer so I pretty know what mage means :)
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The Magic are surprising teams with some high energy play. The Spurs were without Kawhi Leonard but another good win by The Magic.
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Draymond and Bradley Beal get in a fight:
https://twitter.com/loganmmurdock/status/924118511332474881?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
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Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
A lot of these early games this year still look like preseason games. A lot of really sloppy basketball.
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Haha ! Not much of a fight. More like a hugging match.
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Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
A lot of these early games this year still look like preseason games. A lot of really sloppy basketball.
There are always some weird results early on. But the Warriors have been just generally playing like they don't really respect the concept of a regular season.
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Raptors better not choke like the Wizards.
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It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.
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It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.
Or Wall, they're the same as last year.
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It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.
Or Wall, they're the same as last year.
And some people actually thought they are better than the Celtics this year.
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Kelly Oubre is not a good Basketball player.
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Kelly Oubre is not a good Basketball player.
You mean the guy in Game 4 who got caught in a screen and got so mad he charged the ref and Olynyk and pushed them back full force? And the guy who, before Game 6, mocked Jaylen in pregame?
Wow... shocking.... ::)
No surprise he was a no-show in Game 7 lol.
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Wall is the opposite of clutch...
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Lol Wizards.
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When the Warriors shoot 26% from 3 and you still lose...
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Pelicans lead the Cavaliers 65-51 at halftime.
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E'tuan Moore was a good pick.
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Two overlooked stats for the season:
-Andre Drummond FT%: 72.2
-Victor Oladipo averaging 26 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists on 50% FG, 44.8 3P%, 88.6 FT%
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Two overlooked stats for the season:
-Andre Drummond FT%: 72.2
-Victor Oladipo averaging 26 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists on 50% FG, 44.8 3P%, 88.6 FT%
With the way teams are performing over/under expectations, I'm not surprised to see some players doing the same. It has been a weird first couple weeks in this NBA season.
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E'tuan Moore was a good pick.
Gimme Gimme Moore, Gimme Moore, Gimme E'Twaun Moore :laugh:.
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Cavs struggling against the Knicks, of all teams. LOL
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Cavs struggling against the Knicks, of all teams. LOL
You are all witnessing the demise of the Cavs as we know it, thanks to Danny with a little help from Kyrie. Don’t be surprised if the Celts go to the finals with a DPE buy out add and Hayward coming off the bench.
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I'd wait until Thomas and Rose return before making any more assessments.
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I'd wait until Thomas and Rose return before making any more assessments.
Rose is already playing.
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Well, I'd wait for Thomas since he's replacing Kyrie.
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Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.
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Well, I'd wait for Thomas since he's replacing Kyrie.
He'll only exacerbate their defensive problems, which is a big part of their issue.
But they are definitely missing Kyrie's offense and shooting out there. They can't even run any plays; it's all jumpshots and no attacking the rim. Without another iso guy, their offense just doesn't work and is subpar.
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Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.
Yeah, and to a man they say they are not worried about it. Someone needs to speak up and lead that team. I wonder when they are going to start to worrying?
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Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
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Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.
Maybe a coach?
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Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.
Yeah, and to a man they say they are not worried about it. Someone needs to speak up and lead that team. I wonder when they are going to start to worrying?
I wonder how long it’s going to take Lebron to pack it in and start looking towards a move to the Lakers. Eventually he’s going to get frustrated and make more excuses.
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Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.
Maybe a coach?
Their sideline reporter said it. I'm watching the away feed so I didn't catch the name.
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Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.
Maybe a coach?
Their sideline reporter said it. I'm watching the away feed so I didn't catch the name.
Wow, that's a bad hot take there. Too many leaders? Yeah, that's always a problem! :o
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They are going to have to play LeBron over 40 minutes tonight to try and come back over the Knicks.
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Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
I think that's code for dead weight, Wade and Rose are finished and aren't aware of it (especially Rose). Their GM has some very hard decisions to make soon does he leave the roster the way it is and almost guarantee that James walks in the offseason or does he flip the Brooklyn pick for some help but if James still walks he has wasted their chance at a quick rebuild...the need a proper sit down with James and his agent.
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Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
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Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.
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Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.
He has been coasting but I can't see them missing the post season in the eastern conference...
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Way too much is being made of these early season games. They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things. LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season. Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.
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Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.
True. 16 points in 36 down double digits at home, you'd think he'd have some interest.
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Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.
He has been coasting but I can't see them missing the post season in the eastern conference...
They won't, but they have to grind every game now with Lebron playing 40+ minutes. 4-8th seed is now a possibility with them if Lebron continues to coast. Their roster reminds me of 2014 Nets.
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Way too much is being made of these early season games. They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things. LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season. Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.
They Have Jason Tatum on the CAVS? ;)
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Cavs got smoked and LeBron played 40 minutes, no good.
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Way too much is being made of these early season games. They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things. LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season. Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.
Yeah, until the Cavs prove they can’t turn it on in April, I’m going to believe they will. I’ve seen this story before. I don’t think the Cavs really care if they get the 8 seed, so long as they’re in the playoffs.
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Losing badly to the knicks. Are the cavs really our biggest threat in the east still? Wonder if a team like the wizards could beat this cavs team in 7
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Losing badly to the knicks. Are the cavs really our biggest threat in the east still? Wonder if a team like the wizards could beat this cavs team in 7
Too soon to say.
They're playing like they don't care.
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Kyrie seeing the Cavaliers 3-4 record like....
(https://kingjamesgospel.com/files/2012/10/6628250.jpg)
(Insert photoshopped Celtics jersey)
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Cavs got smoked and LeBron played 40 minutes, no good.
See this is the problem with the Cavs. I blame Lue. For a lot of things, but minutes management is one of them.
If you're really not too concerned about records and seeding, then keep Lebron at 28 and then there are minutes for Korver, JR, Wade, and Crowder at the wing too. Why burn out the aging one for nothing? Also since their problem is playing w/o LBJ on the floor, he needs to sit some for them to find a groove when he rests for real.
I hope Lue gives most of his checks to charity. He sure isn't worth them.
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Cavs got punked good by Knicks
Thompson .....scores ONE point for Cavs .......? Dude is hurt n their cap too much to score ONE point ? Good job GM Lebron for paying him like he is Tim Duncan .
LeBron will be 34 next season and he run Irvin off .
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Domantas Sabonis went 9 for 9 today against the Spurs. He has gone 7 for 7 two other times this season.
He must've done some old school Soviet training with his father this summer.
And Hoosier Olapdipo is tied with LeBron and Durant for 5th in the league in scoring average
Who needs Paul George?
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2 straight quality win for the Pistons. They might be a good team and a possible playoff contender this season.
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Warriors come up short somehow :o :o
Durant: 28 points 71% from the field 43% from 3.
Thompson: 29 points 63% from the field 57% from 3.
Curry: 27 points 65% from the field 43% from 3.
Sheesh Pistons got a lot of contribution. Bradley leading the team with 23 points, but there were 5 players with 15+ points.
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I'm interested in Orlando. If someone here has watched their games, has something changed by comparison to last year?
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I'm interested in Orlando. If someone here has watched their games, has something changed by comparison to last year?
Just looking at stats, it appears that Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic, and most notably Aaron Gordon are making huge strides offensively. Fournier is leading the team in scoring at 22 ppg while Vucevic and Gordon are both 20-10 guys.
Jonathan Simmons off the bench is giving them some great minutes too 16ppg. Possible 6th man candidate?
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Unsustainable mid and long-range shooting. I watched some parts of games.
Vuch, Ross, Fournier and Payton all shoot better than 50% from 16-25 feet.
Teamwise they are hitting 44% of their 3's, with a lovely 12 makes per game.
Gordon & Simmons are especially unsustainably hot - 18/32 overall.
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Thank you CelticD and Androslav
Was wondering if Vogel made any changes but if this is mostly bcs they shoot at a high FG% it sounds much less exciting
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The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.
So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.
Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
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The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.
So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.
Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
Maybe IT could help their defense by trash talking his lazy teammates, e.g. "I'm 5 feet tall. What's your excuse?"
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The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.
So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.
Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
Maybe IT could help their defense by trash talking his lazy teammates, e.g. "I'm 5 feet tall. What's your excuse?"
Won't work on Lebron though. Lebron would have him traded :laugh:
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I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
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I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
that's cuz he had kyrie and prime wade to hold down the fort. Who does he have now? You act like all lebron teams will forever be good.
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The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.
So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.
Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
"Cleveland Corpses" is a good name
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I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
This is the least talent Lebron has played with in probably 8 years. That can change some with IT if he is able to regain all-star form, but right now there isn't a single player on that team besides Lebron playing all-star form. Love is capable of it, but may even be injured.
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Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.
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Good Ol' Quincy, the guy with the most pronounced ape index in the league,
is shooting 3's now like there is no tomorrow.
http://stats.nba.com/player/203112/
http://www.ape-index.com/
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The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.
So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.
Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
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Ya gotta think Love is not liking the Lebron experience right now. Even if Lebron drops 40 , they still look like turd soup as a team
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Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.
Warriors didn’t look very mortal last night.
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I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
This is the least talent Lebron has played with in probably 8 years. That can change some with IT if he is able to regain all-star form, but right now there isn't a single player on that team besides Lebron playing all-star form. Love is capable of it, but may even be injured.
I have visited the future in my time machine and I have returned to tell you that Cleveland will not make the Finals this year. For further information on the future you will have to pay. 8)
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I like seeing what other fanbases think of us, here's a Cavs fan on Kyrie.
>Having watched a few celtics games this year, maybe Kyrie was never the problem when it came to the absolute dearth of ball movement. He looks like a very willing passer and a capable playmaker under Stevens, and that's with notably less help than he had in Cleveland.
Seems like the problem has been, and still is, the complete lack of an offense. I do remember seeing some chatter about how Lue would discourage Kyrie from being a playmaker and try to convince him to iso more. I'm not blaming Lue specifically, but the team culture, which, admittedly, is something the coach has a say in.
I'm more and more inclined to believe Kyrie was literally driven out by the culture of coasting, not caring, not giving 100% effort, etc., rather than Kyrie just straight up having beef with LeBron.
>Not a single player who has come to the Cavs has shown any signs of development, whether that's young players (Liggins, Felder, etc.) or others like Shump, JR, TT etc. If anything, several have regressed. And this is a team that hasn't changed ALL that much. Yes, there's a lotta new faces, but there's a LOT of continuity too. LBJ, JR, Love, TT, Frye, Shump, etc.
In comparison, this completely revamped Boston team, with SEVERAL very young players (Tatum, Brown, Rozier) and several completely new faces (Kyrie, Baynes, Morris, etc.) looks like a well-organized, cohesive team, DESPITE losing 4 of 5 starters from last season, losing their BEST player to an absolute freak injury in the first 6 minutes of their season. And everyone's game seems to be developing, on both ends of the floor.>
The post goes on for a couple of paragraphs and it first appeared here https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/79sh29/thoughts_on_kyrie_to_boston/
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Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.
Warriors didn’t look very mortal last night.
Warriors look like the 2001 Lakers right now.
The Cavs look like they also think they are the 2001 Lakers right now.
Only one of them is right. Best case for the Cavs might be a 2010 Celtics type playoff run from a middling seed if they don't start getting better production from everyone other than LBJ/Love.
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Also the more I see of the rest of the league the more convinced I am the C's defense is for real.
Embiid and Porzingis have looked very good every time I've watched 76ers/Knicks when they weren't playing the C's.
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Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers. ???
Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.
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Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?
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Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.
Warriors didn’t look very mortal last night.
Warriors look like the 2001 Lakers right now.
The Cavs look like they also think they are the 2001 Lakers right now.
Only one of them is right. Best case for the Cavs might be a 2010 Celtics type playoff run from a middling seed if they don't start getting better production from everyone other than LBJ/Love.
They look like a 2013 Celtics playoff type team. Only LBJ and Love, and get ousted in the first-rounds...
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Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?
Planning his escape!
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Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?
Planning his escape!
... To Boston!
Then we'll actually get the 8 championships he promised Miami :laugh:
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Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers. ???
Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.
IT4 going to drop 40 a game .....bring Lebron his 4 th ring.
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I like seeing what other fanbases think of us, here's a Cavs fan on Kyrie.
>Having watched a few celtics games this year, maybe Kyrie was never the problem when it came to the absolute dearth of ball movement. He looks like a very willing passer and a capable playmaker under Stevens, and that's with notably less help than he had in Cleveland.
Seems like the problem has been, and still is, the complete lack of an offense. I do remember seeing some chatter about how Lue would discourage Kyrie from being a playmaker and try to convince him to iso more. I'm not blaming Lue specifically, but the team culture, which, admittedly, is something the coach has a say in.
I'm more and more inclined to believe Kyrie was literally driven out by the culture of coasting, not caring, not giving 100% effort, etc., rather than Kyrie just straight up having beef with LeBron.
>Not a single player who has come to the Cavs has shown any signs of development, whether that's young players (Liggins, Felder, etc.) or others like Shump, JR, TT etc. If anything, several have regressed. And this is a team that hasn't changed ALL that much. Yes, there's a lotta new faces, but there's a LOT of continuity too. LBJ, JR, Love, TT, Frye, Shump, etc.
In comparison, this completely revamped Boston team, with SEVERAL very young players (Tatum, Brown, Rozier) and several completely new faces (Kyrie, Baynes, Morris, etc.) looks like a well-organized, cohesive team, DESPITE losing 4 of 5 starters from last season, losing their BEST player to an absolute freak injury in the first 6 minutes of their season. And everyone's game seems to be developing, on both ends of the floor.>
The post goes on for a couple of paragraphs and it first appeared here https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/79sh29/thoughts_on_kyrie_to_boston/
lue is no coach ...he is a flunky for Lebron....they had a real coach , Lebron ran him off .....studying plays hurt his large brain. and Lebron wants to play same non coached , no brain street ball he played in Miami . Lebron and Wade are really not into playing for anybody . .....but themselves . Irving wanted a. normal TEAM .....Lebron pretends to play team ball.....by passing ...but he and Wade never read a play book . They defy authority or structure , it will be no different if he leaves ...Lebron has to play for a nobody coach .....hes too good to be told how or when to play . So basically he may have to stay in Cleveland where hey will let him have his yes man coach . I wonder if Luke Walton wants to ruin his carrer .
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Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers. ???
Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.
IT4 going to drop 40 a game .....bring Lebron his 4 th ring.
By the time IT comes back, the Cavs will be such a train wreck. IT will be playing for a contract, not Lebron’s next ring.
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We need Dallas to win tonight to help get above lakers
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No Kawhi, no problem. Spurs are manhandling the Warriors so far.
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Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.
I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
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No Kawhi, no problem. Spurs are manhandling the Warriors so far.
They always start out hot against them and then get rolled.
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Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.
I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
Never was a fan of Kerr's
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Kerr is overrated. How do you lose 3 games so early with that roster?
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Gasol with the matador defense.
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Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.
Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason.. :o
Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
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Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.
Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason.. :o
Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
Yeah people saying the Aldridge deal was bad.....it has nothing on that Gasol deal.
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Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.
Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason.. :o
Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
Yeah people saying the Aldridge deal was bad.....it has nothing on that Gasol deal.
Yeah. Now that Aldridge is "doing his thing" and not trying to simply adapt to the Spurs system, he looks really good again, and should be the perfect #2 behind Kawhi when he comes back.
But Gasol just looks like a liability out there for the most part, and relying on him as the secondary/third option right now w/o Kawhi is proving to be a struggle, even for Pop.
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To be fair, Ginobili is just as bad (at least in this game)
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I will say, I know they are w/o Kawhi, but it seems like this is becoming the norm. Spurs get out to great start, then Warriors come back and you forget the Spurs even led by 10+ at one point :P
UPDATE: LOL Popovich gets ejected with his 2nd technical. Gets a standing O. Can't really blame him to be honest.
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Our friend Turner helping us get that lottery pick ;D
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Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.
Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason.. :o
Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
He has looked very good in a reduced role the last two years in my eyes. Had the highest plus/minus on the team tonight as well.
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Other than the C's, the top records in the East currently belong to Orlando, Detroit, Indy and Charlotte. Who'da thunk?
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Other than the C's, the top records in the East currently belong to Orlando, Detroit, Indy and Charlotte. Who'da thunk?
I like it so far, even if the trend doesn't stick for long, it looks lively and competitive.
I think that Wizards will make a run at one point, maybe even sooner than later. They have a knack of making consecutive wins at home. I expect it now; Cleveland, Road game @ Toronto, Dallas, Lakers, Atlanta, Sacramento.
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Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.
I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think of him as No1 or No2. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, maybe even SVG and a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.
In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
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Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.
I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think so. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Maybe even SVG and maybe even a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.
In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
Warriors did just fine with Walton running the show. There are plenty of coaches that would do well with that much talent. More of a personality question. You want a coach that would subjugate their ego and just not rock the boat. I'd put Rivers above Carlisle in that situation as an example.
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Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.
I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think so. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Maybe even SVG and maybe even a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.
In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
Warriors did just fine with Walton running the show. There are plenty of coaches that would do well with that much talent. More of a personality question. You want a coach that would subjugate their ego and just not rock the boat. I'd put Rivers above Carlisle in that situation as an example.
Well, if by 'not rock the boat' you mean 'rarely plays young players and as a result burns out his starters', then I agree. ;D
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0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.
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0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.
you stole my thunder, i came on to make he very same comment .
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0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.
I honestly don't think they have the personnel to play .500 ball right now. This is like historically bad defense and Rose, Love, Wade and Korver don't even have the potential to play average D (Love probably used to, but he is even slower with a banged up knee). Thompson was their only slight defensive presence down low. Gortat is already 3-3 with 8 points in 7 minutes.
I am sure they will win some games outscoring people, but they really are not going to be knuckle down to get stops like they could in previous seasons when these guys were all younger (even Lebron)
BTW it goes without saying that the Wizard are playing terrible defense this game too. However, you can at least see the potential of them having plus defenders in Wall and Porter. I have no idea how good or bad Beal is on D.
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Both teams might legitimately hit 40 this first quarter... No interest in defense by either team lol
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0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.
Cav's need to start making trades if they want to salvage their season. This isn't an overreaction given their squad and when Thomas comes back, their defence is going to get worse! They need to start flipping their assets for two way players or at least 3 and D guys...otherwise it's guaranteed James will walk.
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And Wizards are supposed to be the second best team in the east? LOL
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Inthought the wizards played D .
This a joke ......Bron , with wide open lanes to the rim, free fast breaks , no one even putting a hand in his face as he shoots threes ....
I would be going wild as a coach. .....watching this all star nothing defense game. Looks like an exhibition game.
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So referees can rescind calls? :o
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And Wizards are supposed to be the second best team in the east? LOL
When I watch them play it just makes me even more happy to know CBS is in Boston. Team really gets by on like 80% talent. They aren't coached well and they play really lazy. Will never get where they want unless other teams are injured.
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74 to 66 at the half.
Cavs shooting something like 67%.
Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.
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gonna give Lebron 60 points ...very little defense on him. what a joke he is allowed to play ball like a fullback using his arm as a battering ram driving to rim. NBA is a joke ....when it comes to this guy.
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74 to 66 at the half.
Cavs shooting something like 67%.
Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.
I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense. He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense. Especially against the PnR.
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Yeah Wall, the Cavs clearly tanked to avoid your superior squad!
The same squad that let Kelly Olynyk crush you in the 4th quarter of a Game 7 :laugh: (where Wall himself had 0 points that quarter as well)
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Can't wait to see Mook clobber the crap out of Crowder. His lil brother Kief already did ;D
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Lol S-O-F-T!
That new ref has been atrocious all night long on both sides. What is with the league bringing in so many new refs this year? There's been at least half a dozen games I've watched with a new ref doing a real bang-up job
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Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play. That was a bad call. Just a hard foul on Crowder...
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74 to 66 at the half.
Cavs shooting something like 67%.
Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.
I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense. He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense. Especially against the PnR.
They don't even look like they're trying out there on defense. It literally reminds me of watching the Balls play at Chino Hills.
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Dislike both of these teams so can't really enjoy this either way.
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Dislike both of these teams so can't really enjoy this either way.
Me too, but it is more fun if the Cavs lose...haha
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Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play. That was a bad call. Just a hard foul on Crowder...
I thought Crowder might have been hit in the groin. If not, then yeah, it was.
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Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play. That was a bad call. Just a hard foul on Crowder...
I thought Crowder might have been hit in the groin. If not, then yeah, it was.
It was just a hard swipe across the arm. It seems like that things have gone downhill for the wiz since that point. Down by 14 to the cavs now....cmon Wiz.
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74 to 66 at the half.
Cavs shooting something like 67%.
Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.
I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense. He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense. Especially against the PnR.
They don't even look like they're trying out there on defense. It literally reminds me of watching the Balls play at Chino Hills.
It’s not just tonight. Suns put up 107 in the final three quarters on Wednesday. 5 straight quarters going on 6 where the Wizards have given up at least 30 points.
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game over ...if thats what you want to call it.
worst officiating ever.
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Wizards are bunch of whiny sissies. How about sticking to the play instead of constantly complaining for non-calls?
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My God the media is completely blowing this Kyrie quote out of proportion.
And, no, Jeff, Brad and Lue are completely different coaches. Lue is not anywhere considered an analytically-minded coach like someone like Brad, Snyder, Pop, etc.
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Don't mind Jeff Van gundy. He was such a terrible coach and doesn't have the minimal brain power needed to decipher what kyrie meant. Van Gundy wouldn't know who a good and smart coach is
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Lebron can only play much with this intensity for the whole season.
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wade is completely done....
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Wizards are overrated
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lerbon's fadeway is pretty [dang] good,
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Wade with his flopping
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Oubre have a pretty low BBIQ
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Oubre have a pretty low BBIQ
yup
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
I mean, Lebron has been amazing tonight, no doubt. Unstoppable when his shot is on like this. But it's also taking a 50 point game from him in order for them to beat the Wiz. That's not really much of an endorsement for them this season, since he can't be expected to do this every night.
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
Cavaliers desperately needed that from Lebron.
But Lebron won't go for 45+ points every single night. They need Isaiah back ASAP.
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
I think every one on here has said Lebron is still a great player. However is it not telling about his supporting cast that he has 52 points and it has been a 8 point game for most of the quarter?
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
Yeah but he can't keep dropping 40+ games for the whole season, especially against the cream of the crop teams.
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The Wizards and John Wall especially should feel bad.
All that talk and you let Cavaliers (w/o their 2nd best scorer) put up 125+ on you??
And Lebron at 54 points and counting LOL. Wizards are overrated.
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When you have the best player in the world on your team you'll always have a chance. Hence the problem with facing Cleveland. C's are the only team that will be able to dethrone him. Don't run to the West!
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If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
I think every one on here has said Lebron is still a great player. However is it not telling about his supporting cast that he has 52 points and it has been a 8 point game for most of the quarter?
True. And frankly Washington haven't looked that great so far this season.
Still early but they look overrated. Like a "middle of the pack" kind of team.
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John Wall and clutch is like water and oil.
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Why exactly was Wall guarding Lebron for most of the 4th?
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Why exactly was Wall guarding Lebron for most of the 4th?
Because Scott Brooks coaches in Washington.
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Looks like Lebron was after Kyrie's record.
57 points. Tied for highest points in a single game for Cavaliers history I believe.
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The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
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When you have the best player in the world on your team you'll always have a chance. Hence the problem with facing Cleveland. C's are the only team that will be able to dethrone him. Don't run to the West!
They still have glaring problems.
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The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
If you're only doing one takeaway from the game, it would be that Lebron is still by a clear margin the best player in the league.
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Knicks win and are now 4-4 this season... :o
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The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
If you're only doing one takeaway from the game, it would be that Lebron is still by a clear margin the best player in the league.
The takeaway for me is that the Cavs still got a lot holes they need to fix.
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Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game. Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.
The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.
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Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls! Maybe the magic aren't for real.
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Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls! Maybe the magic aren't for real.
I think they're a good team, but ya some of their shooting percentages aren't gonna be sustainable throughout the course of the season.
They'll be lookin to bounce back vs. Boston though. I think it'd be another good test.
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Nets trying to give their Best celtics impression. Just can't get over the hump tho...
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Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls! Maybe the magic aren't for real.
I think they're a good team, but ya some of their shooting percentages aren't gonna be sustainable throughout the course of the season.
They'll be lookin to bounce back vs. Boston though. I think it'd be another good test.
All this 3pt shooting puts a lot of variability into the league over short time frames. The Magic are shooting 42.1% from 3 this year but only shot 32.8% last year. Don't see where they made significant changes to justify that huge of a jump. I expect they'll revert back to norm before too much longer.
However Drummond shot 14 of 16 free throws tonight and is 28 of 36 overall so anything really is possible.
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Holy Moly!!! I knew the Rockets were taking a lot of 3s but didn't realize how much. 45.1 3PA out of 83.6 FGA while shooting just 31.7%. The next closest team is the Mavs at 33.2 3PA. Way too much 3pt shooting as it is. Hopefully no other teams follow the Rockets lead.
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Holy Moly!!! I knew the Rockets were taking a lot of 3s but didn't realize how much. 45.1 3PA out of 83.6 FGA while shooting just 31.7%. The next closest team is the Mavs at 33.2 3PA. Way too much 3pt shooting as it is. Hopefully no other teams follow the Rockets lead.
Morey is a smart guy but Pop showed him what happens to too much analytics...you get outsmarted by BBIQ. I honestly believe that Paul trade will be a failure as they will be defensively a sieve and their depth has been depleted.
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Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game. Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.
The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.
Wizards , are too small overall to deal with Lebron. Only Gortat has real,size , he could not get near Lebron . Nobody else even tried to muscle up on Bron......Obre and Porter , poked at the ball Wall and Beal are too small and lightly built to deal with Bron . That Wizards team has nobody to even foul Lebron .....they acted scared of him. Nobody stepping in the lane to draw a foul or cut him off . Brooks has serious seriousness us defensive issues on that team. Theynare just twiggs for Lebron to crush.
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Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game. Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.
The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.
Wizards , are too small overall to deal with Lebron. Only Gortat has real,size , he could not get near Lebron . Nobody else even tried to muscle up on Bron......Obre and Porter , poked at the ball Wall and Beal are too small and lightly built to deal with Bron . That Wizards team has nobody to even foul Lebron .....they acted scared of him. Nobody stepping in the lane to draw a foul or cut him off . Brooks has serious seriousness us defensive issues on that team. Theynare just twiggs for Lebron to crush.
Yeah, after last season, I actually expected more out of the Wiz this year (yes yes I know it is still really early). Each time I have watched them they have somewhat underperformed. I thought for sure they were a 2-4 seed in the east this year, now I am not so sure. It will interesting to see how our games go with them this year. That was a tough series with them last year, we barely escaped. It feels like we would match up better with them this year.
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.
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Hmm, I wonder what excuse people will have for the Cavs after a loss to the 1-8 Hawks.
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.
I wonder how he'll react? ;D
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.
I wonder how he'll react? ;D
By reminding everyone he has a no-trade clause. As he already did this summer.
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Why would the Cavs want to trade their meal ticket? Watch what happens to that crowd if LeBron leaves next summer.
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Why would the Cavs want to trade their meal ticket? Watch what happens to that crowd if when LeBron leaves next summer.
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Wade is getting torched on defense. Even a game like today where he scored he isn't really helping. 91 points given up through 3 quarters to a glorified d league team.
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Lue emptied the bench with 10 minutes left down 12. He must be disgusted
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"Cavaliers trying to make a move" against the Hawks? lol
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Lue emptied the bench with 10 minutes left down 12. He must be disgusted
Lue is the worst coach in the league. He should be disgusted with himself more than anyone else.
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LOL. LeBron is worthless from a trade perspective now too...
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Started watching at around the 7 min mark. just nothin but guards and forwards on the floor.
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40 minutes with Lebron again for the losing effort.
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Heat smoking the clipper. 89-82 and the clippers just went on a 18-0 scoring run
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why does Lue even play Lebron 40+ minutes a game? all lebron is gonna do is pace himself. sit him for like 10-15 minutes a game and let him take over while he's in.
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Jr smith 6 pts in 34 minutes.. ;D Kevin Love with 4 pts lol. These guys are terrible
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He is at 40 minutes again tonight. At home against the hawks. Beginning of November. Lol
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CAVALIERS ABSOLUTELY CHOKE WHEN ATLANTA WAS BEGGING THEM TO TAKE THAT WIN AWAY FROM THEM! LOL
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Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!
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Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!
What did they do? Had switched to football
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wow, I was wrong, Cavs (Was) are worse than I thought. Hawks WANT to lose and you lose to them.
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Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!
What did they do? Had switched to football
They were going crazy like it was a playoff game.
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Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.
I wonder how he'll react? ;D
By reminding everyone he has a no-trade clause. As he already did this summer.
If things keep going like they are, he might just be sending a tweet from his wife's hair salon soon. ;D
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It must be so annoying being a cavs fan in the regular season. ur best player could put away 80% of the league easily and yet he insists on not taking over against lowly teams.
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Heat blew like a 25 pt lead in 1.5 quarters. Lol
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Speakin of choke jobs, Miami is lettin the clips go on a 29-4 run..
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Austin rivers stole the heat last possession then choked 2 free throw
The heat may have just won because of austin rivers inability to make a free throw
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Atlanta beat Cleveland at Cavs home court? Hahahahaha
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Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.
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Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.
He ruined Sunday dinner with the family! No dessert
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Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.
he should cuss the coach out good
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Austin rivers shoots 65% from free throw. Why does he play in crunch time when free throws are crucial? Lol
Clips fans on another board:
“Nepotism cost us another win”
“I honestly didn't want Doc fired because it would be messed up our chemistry during the season and might cause some chaos. This was the last straw. Amy other coach, disregarding Pop, Carlisle, Stevens, would have been fired after giving up a 3-1 lead to the Rockets. A coach that has terrible rotations, wasn't able to form a respectable bench for years, then the entire front office got revamped to get him a good bench and he still doesn't even use any of the bench, overplaying the players to the point that they themselves have even complained about it. It's not really a comeback if you still lose. And in this case the coach's son cost us the game. I don't care if he gets fired mid-season, Doc is an overrated coach who should've been fired years ago. Ok that's the end of my rant.”
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Harden having a special game tonight.
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Timberwolves of to a great start. Also, that Northwest Division, is what soccer fans would call a group of death
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duplicate
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A few guys had monster games tonight. Several amazing players in this league. I wonder what Lillard could do in a better environment. Same for Zinger, actually.
Harden went off for 56 points, 13 ast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9H1_3Q3Gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9H1_3Q3Gw))
Porzingis had 40 pts, 8 rebs, and 6 blks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBT7kihaTE&t=49s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBT7kihaTE&t=49s)).
Lillard went off for 36 pts and 13 ast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfm84UV0c8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfm84UV0c8)).
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.
SSS.
Gotta give Melo, Westbrook and George some time to figure and fix their chemistry woes.
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
To me this is just more evidence Westbrook doesn't really know how to co-exist with other stars very well.
The easy target will be their terrible bench, though. And while it's certainly a big factor, I think the issue runs much deeper than that.
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
To me this is just more evidence Westbrook doesn't really know how to co-exist with other stars very well.
The easy target will be their terrible bench, though. And while it's certainly a big factor, I think the issue runs much deeper than that.
No reason to blame their bench. Their big 3 went 15-54 tonight.
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Where is the defense this year in the NBA? As a Vegas resident i have noticed the total points are up between 5 and 15 points every game. I got to credit Stevens for keeping the Celtics focus defensivly when nobody in the NBA is playing defense.
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OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.
SSS.
Gotta give Melo, Westbrook and George some time to figure and fix their chemistry woes.
They could still figure it out.
I felt that getting George was a great move for them, but once they got Melo for depth I felt its a backwards move.
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Where is the defense this year in the NBA? As a Vegas resident i have noticed the total points are up between 5 and 15 points every game. I got to credit Stevens for keeping the Celtics focus defensivly when nobody in the NBA is playing defense.
Just a product of today’s league. Heard today that Houston averages shooting 45 three pointers a game.
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Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
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Durant-less Warriors DECIMATING the Timberwolves. The 'ol splash brothers on fire.
Jimmy Butler sucks huh? 6pts 3rebs lol. Glad Ainge didn't trade for this guy.
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I have to always remind myself to stay away from general nba boards because the amount of envy and hate this franchise gets becomes tiresome. Just going to sit back and enjoy the ride back to banner 18.
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Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
only if he goes somewhere besides the Lakers. would rather he stay put in that case
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Rockets win 117-113.
Cavaliers defense is just flat out bad.
Isaiah will help them score when they return but unless Isaiah can play great defense, they'll have to score like 120+ every game to win vs. good teams...
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Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
only if he goes somewhere besides the Lakers. would rather he stay put in that case
I would actually like it if he went to LA but could only make them 8th seed playoff cannon fodder.
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Fox with a nice little game winner over Philly. Sacramento starting to put it together a little bit lately.
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
But they lost.
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The Davis/cousins experiment is such a failure. Lol
Anyone remember all the hype when the trade happened?
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
But they lost.
Those are his season averages.
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
He, along with Westbrook, pads stats in a big way. When mental fortitude is required in big games and at the end of games, they are both found wanting.
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
But they lost.
Is that all it comes down to? Basically if you're not the warriors you're a bad player?
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I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
But they lost.
Is that all it comes down to? Basically if you're not the warriors you're a bad player?
No, it comes down to the point where selective picking of his raw stats blinds his guardians from realizing that his inefficiency, unreliability, mental letdowns, being out of shape every year after the initial 2 months of the season and the overall negative effect on his teammates, lower the ceiling of his teams to an unbearable point, after which his team implodes. Kings did that several times, NOLA will this year.
I am not saying he will never win a playoffs series (still 0 playoff games played = Cbloggers), or maybe even win a chip, but if it happens it will be on a tail end of his career when he realizes there is not much more left to play, his reputation is at a low point and he is a 3rd big, scorer off the bench role. Meaning, he only plays if "the good DMC" is in the building.
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For me, the biggest mystery for us, is why we still play Nader and I am astounded when he comes off the bench ahead of other guys. This has stopped somewhat recently.
Opponents have a 115.0 ORtg when Nader is in the game. .566 eFG%, too.
Opponents have 97.1 ORtg and .469 eFG% when Nader is off the the court.
To place this is context we have a -17.0 ORtg with him in the game and +12.3 ORtg with him out.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/naderab01/on-off/2018
I get the guy worked off his tail in the D league. But those minutes need to be given to Semi so he can develop more. 6.9 more mpg to Semi. I was not kidding when I called him "Lead-Killer" earlier in the season.
I think some of this could be fixed. He leans over too much at the waist on D and therefore is off balance most of the time. He should bend his knees more and waist less.
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Don’t know why you’re concerned about Nader’s PT. He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting. He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC. He’s gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time. They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didn’t work, but he really doesn’t play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.
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If someone told me in September that going in to the second week of November that the Pistons, Knicks, Philly, Pacers, and Magic were all in playoff spots, and the Celts were on an 11-game winning streak atop the conference leaning heavily on 4 rookies....
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Spurs game on tnt. Not many fans in arena
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This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.
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This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.
This is the most fun start to the season in recent memory for me because it's been so unpredictable. Lots of teams winning unexpectedly, and the Cavs looking entirely mortal. I'm sure team records will start to regress to the mean by Christmas, but for now I'm absolutely loving it.
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This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.
This is the most fun start to the season in recent memory for me because it's been so unpredictable. Lots of teams winning unexpectedly, and the Cavs looking entirely mortal. I'm sure team records will start to regress to the mean by Christmas, but for now I'm absolutely loving it.
Me too! I've never been as engaged in watching how other teams are doing. Watching the C's, always. The Lakers (and the Nets) because of the picks. The Cavs because of Crowder and Thomas.
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After nets win tonight,
the Nets, Cavs, lakers all have the same record 5-7. Lol
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and the East is net +3 vs the West so far.
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Don’t know why you’re concerned about Nader’s PT. He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting. He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC. He’s gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time. They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didn’t work, but he really doesn’t play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.
Because we are a decidedly worse team with him on the floor and as we lose players to injury, it's important to notice and take head of little things because they will matter at some point this season.
I agree its a minor thing but the stats I posted are pretty [dang]ing.
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Don’t know why you’re concerned about Nader’s PT. He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting. He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC. He’s gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time. They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didn’t work, but he really doesn’t play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.
Because we are a decidedly worse team with him on the floor and as we lose players to injury, it's important to notice and take head of little things because they will matter at some point this season.
I agree its a minor thing but the stats I posted are pretty [dang]ing.
I get he’s not good. I was saying that last year during his D-League success. I’m just not going to be concerned about a rookie late 2nd-round pick who only gets minutes when there are multiple injuries or it’s garbage time. If Nader ever matters it’s because so many other things have gone wrong. We won’t lose a game because of Nader — we’ll lose because 4 players were injured. Same is true of every teams’ 13-15th players.
My only complaint was that they signed him to a small amount of guaranteed money next year. He should not be around for 2018-2019.
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Donovan Mitchell is really good. Jazz got themselves a steal in the kid.
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Donovan Mitchell is really good. Jazz got themselves a steal in the kid.
Its a pity that outside of him, they're probably the dullest NBA team to watch that has been assembled in the last decade.
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What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.
My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.
Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.
IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
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What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.
My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.
Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.
IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
The scoring averages and totals will make him a Hall of Famer. He deserves it based on the numbers. But you are absolutely right that he makes teams worse and is selfish and lazy. I'm certain he will still make the Hall of Fame though.
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What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.
My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.
Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.
IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
The scoring averages and totals will make him a Hall of Famer. He deserves it based on the numbers. But you are absolutely right that he makes teams worse and is selfish and lazy. I'm certain he will still make the Hall of Fame though.
Yup. HOF easily. T-Mac made it. Melo will too.
But it's easy to see now why George "snake in the grass" Karl was just tickled when he was traded away from Denver, even without getting a star player back.
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What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.
My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.
Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.
IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
Melo is 10 times All Star, 6x all NBA, and scoring champion in 2012-13 . For comparison, Guy Rodgers who was inducted in 2014 was 4 times All Star and 2 times leader in assists.
Melo is a sure HOFer.
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Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.
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Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.
Should have retired. What the heck is he trying to prove anyways. Assured HOF his jersey going up the rafters...his time is up.
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It wouldn't be so bad if he was on a better team
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What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.
My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.
Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.
IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
Melo is 10 times All Star, 6x all NBA, and scoring champion in 2012-13 . For comparison, Guy Rodgers who was inducted in 2014 was 4 times All Star and 2 times leader in assists.
Melo is a sure HOFer.
The question would be what team would retire his jersey?
I believe that apart from a surefire HOF career, players also want a team honoring them in some way like a jersey or number retirement...but for a journeyman allstar..who honors him?. Denver might but its probably not a given since he didnt lead them anywhere close to the Finals...I also dont think NY aint gonna touch him.
He might end up like Ray Allen or Gary Payton..
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Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.
I wonder how aware he is of it. I've always heard athletes say that they often don't realize that they've slowed down, or to what extent.
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
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It wouldn't be so bad if he was on a better team
Wouldn’t it? A better team would have to sit him.
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
I mean they're tanking this year so it doesn't really matter.
I don't blame KG or Dirk or whomever for keeping going till they're ready to be done.
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
At least he would be winning - he would be getting solid praise in a 2008 PJ Brown role. With the Mavs basically tanking now, the end of his career is just sad. I guess the fact that he is sticking it out with the Mavs for his entire career is admirable, too.
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Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point
It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
I mean they're tanking this year so it doesn't really matter.
I don't blame KG or Dirk or whomever for keeping going till they're ready to be done.
Marc Cuban should have sense of favor and release Dirk for either a chance to play on another contender or buy his contract out so he can finally rest while getting paid like the Spurs did on Duncan.
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The Celtics haven't lost a game since their 0-2 start to the season. According to Elias Sports Bureau research, their 12-game winning streak is tied with the 2006-07 Mavericks for the longest win streak immediately following an 0-2 or worse start to the season. That Mavericks team went on to win a franchise-best 67 games
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I smell a Knicks/Cavs rivalry brewing after that Lebron statement on Ntilkina
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I smell a Knicks/Cavs rivalry after that Lebron statement on Ntilkina
Lebron, is your career and your team really so low right now that you need to pick a fight with a backup rookie 19 year old?
That little thing where he intentionally chested up Frank was something Lance Stephenson would do to him. Its petty and small. Its pitiful that Lebron has to stay relevant by picking fights with bench players.
This was supposed to be the year he went for MVP, but instead its obvious he is hampered by nagging injuries. Its equally as obvious that his team is bad.
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Ntilkina may not have put up impressive stats, but the kid makes winning plays. He's like their own Smart in a sense and its rubbing off his teammates.
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Lol @ this Cavs team.
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Lol @ this Cavs team.
It’s still early, of course, but if the Cavs keep playing like this until IT gets in the lineup, they’re going to have to work very hard just to get homecourt in the first round of the playoffs, much less round 2.
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It's just fodder so people talk about something else.
We got all our guys back, mask and all. How far can the C's take this win streak?
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"Man, the Cavs are a dumpster fire."
- Sacramento Kings
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I can’t believe I picked this team to win the East lol if they keep this up after 20-30 games in to the season wholesale changes have to be made perhaps starting with Lue’s resignation and I’m sure everyone not named James or Wade is on the trade block.
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They're guarding Porzingis with Crowder. I mean, I'm not sure that they have a better option other than Lebron, who you don't want getting into foul trouble on Porzingis, but there's literally like an 8-9 inch difference there.
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I can’t believe I picked this team to win the East lol if they keep this up after 20-30 games in to the season wholesale changes have to be made perhaps starting with Lue’s resignation and I’m sure everyone not named James or Wade is on the trade block.
if they play like this the whole season, they might not make the playoffs
I could see heat going on win streak like last year to squeeze in
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Hey guys, I found a gif of Cleveland's defense online!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IynvPneUpb7SnBe/giphy.gif)
It's an amazing concept. You actually have to play defense when you simply can't outscore your opponent anymore. Lebron better hope IT comes back at 100%, because they're not getting out of the East otherwise.
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IT should win MVP if he comes back to save this washed up Cavs team.
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I can smell a Boogie Cousins for Porter Jr trade coming in January, Pelicans will be flailing at the bottom and Washington will smell Cavs blood in the water and with Cousins/Beal/Wall combo makes them automatically favourites.
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Idk how to feel if i was a teammate of lebron. im playing with someone who has the ability to take over games but he insists on passing it to me so i can keep bricking shots...
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And people think Lebron doesn't get a favorable whistle? Dude just straight bodied up Porzingis on a shot with no call from the refs.
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Holy hell, then Lebron blatantly goes up and down for a travel and no call! lol
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Porzingis choking eh?
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Porzingis choking at the free throw line. Classic Knicks lol
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Dang epic choke job
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Knicks , what pathetic defense.
So the cavs still playing the same
coast for 3 quarters and win the 4 th
won't work at GS.
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Knicks , what patheic defense.
So the cavs still playing the same
coast for 3 quarters and win the 4 th
own't work at GS.
Or us. They got lucky the Celtics lost their focus in the season opener.
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Wow, Porzingis has dang near single-handedly lost the Knicks this game. Wasn't boxing out there and allowed Wade to get the rebound, which is in addition to the three missed free throws in crunch time.
That can't happen if he wants to be the "man" in New York City.
EDIT: Lol and Porzingis missed yet another rebound there on the two missed free throws... at 7'3" tall. Seemed pretty lazy tonight.
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Wow, Porzingis has dang near single-handedly lost the Knicks this game. Wasn't boxing out there and allowed Wade to get the rebound, which is in addition to the three missed free throws in crunch time.
That can't happen if he wants to be the "man" in New York City.
EDIT: Lol and Porzingis missed yet another rebound there on the two missed free throws... at 7'3" tall. Seemed pretty lazy tonight.
He's in the wrong "system"/on the wrong team.
Love to see what CBS could do for him.
Forty Three points in the fourth quarter.....they deserve to lose. Just wish it wasn't to Bron Bron.
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Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.
Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid
Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals
Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball😁
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Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.
Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid
Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals
Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball😁
Best part. Embiid played 36 minutes.
Covington has been playing really well. Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
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Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.
Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid
Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals
Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part. Embiid played 36 minutes.
Covington has been playing really well. Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.
Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
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Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.
Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid
Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals
Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part. Embiid played 36 minutes.
Covington has been playing really well. Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.
Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
Yeah, that Gallo signing was risky for sure.
I'd say George Hill is a close second at 3 years/$57M. He was supposed to stabilize that young Sacramento team, but instead his defense has tailed off and his eFG% is 8 points lower than his career average - and he's just a few months away from being 32. Right now his contract looks near-untradeable.
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Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.
Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid
Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals
Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part. Embiid played 36 minutes.
Covington has been playing really well. Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.
Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
Yeah, that Gallo signing was risky for sure.
I'd say George Hill is a close second at 3 years/$57M. He was supposed to stabilize that young Sacramento team, but instead, his defense has tailed off and his eFG% is 8 points lower than his career average - and he's just a few months away from being 32. Right now his contract looks near-untradeable.
G. Hill is right up there. He was signed in a 2 fold manner
1. We give you the big contract, you teach Fox how to be a starter.
2. We trade you to a playoff team when we think he can take over the job/get a good offer once someone gets injured/we just tank blatantly
It is still early to bury the hope, but:
Remember this:
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18789802/george-hill-utah-jazz-discussing-last-minute-contract-extension
Now that would be truly scary for all sides except Hill, as it is an even worse deal (for the Jazz) and it had some Gordon Hayward (resigning) connotations.
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RAptors and spurs won
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3b5ba16f82ae93fd6f8872d695b68313/tenor.gif)
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“I think the pressure gets pretty high,” said a rival team executive. “If it’s not working, they should either move the [Nets] pick or Love or LeBron. Those should all be on the table.”
http://hoopshype.com/rumor/1146648/
OK, some team should seek an upgrade over this executive just for not knowing that LBJ has a no-trade clause. No wonder why some teams can't make playoffs for decades.
There are like 2 of those in the whole league (LBJ and Dirk)
Melo lost his after the trade to OKC, right?
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I'm really liking this Charlotte lineup with Nicolas Batum in it. The floor is more open, and they get a secondary playmaker.
I wonder if they there's a move there that they can do and get a better shooting SG instead of playing Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in with the Kemba - Howard - Williams - Batum lineup? If they can get that 3 and D wing, that would just make the Dwight Howard/Kemba Walker pick and roll all the more deadly. Bring MKG off the bench to add some defensive intensity there.
But I don't know if there's a player there they can acquire.
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Lebron with 4 fouls and Hornets couldn't capitalize.
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Charlotte bench is a joke
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I find Tommy unbearable. When he complains about foul calls, its basically a coin flip whether he's right.
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Bradley 5-9 from three and 23 for Pistons
Bledsoe Bux on top though in 4th.
Deeetroit is hot like C's..10-3
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I find Tommy unbearable. When he complains about foul calls, its basically a coin flip whether he's right.
Not a fan of Tommy either, but I can stand him because he's biased toward my team.
I completely understand why fans of other teams would hate watching our broadcast team, though Gorman is definitely one of the best play-by-play guys in the business.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games. How is that not improvement?
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games. How is that not improvement?
Putting up more numbers from more playing time on a bad team doesn't mean improved play. He has not improved on any aspects of his game at all.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.
Which would have been a very bad decision in retrospect.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games. How is that not improvement?
Putting up more numbers from more playing time on a bad team doesn't mean improved play. He has not improved on any aspects of his game at all.
So upping his fg% from .377 last year to .429 coming into tonight doesn't count as improvement? Seriously?
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Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
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Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
He's shooting 35% so he is not a terrible 3pt shooter. If he is, what does that make Smart?
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Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
He's shooting 35% so he is not a terrible 3pt shooter. If he is, what does that make Smart?
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Those laker uniforms are hideous , they’re wearing those minepolis throwbacks
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Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great. Convert that pick!
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Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great. Convert that pick!
Randle is going to have nightmares tonight about the abuse Embiid is subjecting him to.
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Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great. Convert that pick!
Randle is going to have nightmares tonight about the abuse Embiid is subjecting him to.
Randle smiled in the 4qtr like that meant nothing. Not a good sign when guys are trying to hide failures by smiles. (Many of us do use that defensive mechanism, but it is not aesthetically pleasing)
He needs to find the 3pt range, that is the only way I don't see his draft position as a failure.
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And Kris Dunn had been playing so well. Sigh.
Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.
that was not the only reason. He went to providence.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.
So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.
It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.
I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.
So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.
It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.
I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.
Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.
So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.
It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.
I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.
Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.
I got the joke. I was doing a charade to prompt for chaos and confusion. I would like to be the Nathan Felder of this board.
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Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.
I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games. :-\
I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Yikes!
Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you ;D.
Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.
So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.
It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.
I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.
Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.
I got the joke. I was doing a charade to prompt for chaos and confusion. I would like to be the Nathan Felder of this board.
TP for the attempt ;).
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I know it's oranges and apples, but Houston has made more threes in the first quarter than we made in the whole game.
That team has scary good shooters.
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Harden 33 pts and it’s not even half time yet.
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Most points in a half since 1991. Rockets have 90. Lol more than Golden State has the whole game
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Cavs are using Celtic's old starting lineup song. lol
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My God, the Cavs look atrocious, even offensively. Nothing but contested jumpers that aren't falling.
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Cavs making Jordan look like Shaq
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My God, the Cavs look atrocious, even offensively. Nothing but contested jumpers that aren't falling.
IT will bring his 28 points per and everything will be O tay
Sides ...Bron loves play n 40 minutes a night .
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Derrick Rose could be out for another few weeks by the way.
Injury-prone Rose being Injury-prone Rose...
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Even Harrell looks like Barkley there ;D
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Lol this Cavs defense is comical. And it'll get even worse when you replace Shump with IT in the starting unit.
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Cavs 2nd unit is saving them once again, those guys will win them playoff games, that's a really good bench to have. Wade, Korver and Green can take turns and explode for 20 on any night. Rose too if healthy.
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detroit dropping one, also washington loses, nets probably gonna win, just need lakers to lose to make it a near perfect night
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detroit dropping one, also washington loses, nets probably gonna win, just need lakers to lose to make it a near perfect night
Detroit lost to Pacers with Oladipo having a big game again (box score), 21/4/15. He has got to be near the top in MIP, right?
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I wish I can mute Cavs broadcast. The color commentator is so annoying.
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I wish I can mute Cavs broadcast. The color commentator is so annoying.
I turn him off .....he is worse than a homer .....maybe only surpassed by another turd that sounds just like him for the Rockets.
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The defense in this Cavs/Clips game has been unwatchable for both sides.
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And this Clippers team offense is like barren outside of Griffin, who is struggling himself.
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I know the Clippers are decimated by injuries but Griffin just can't close out games.
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If LeBron keeps playing like this and dragging these terrible Cavs over the finish line he'll be MVP. I just can't see how he'll be able to keep playing all these minutes.
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If LeBron keeps playing like this and dragging these terrible Cavs over the finish line he'll be MVP. I just can't see how he'll be able to keep playing all these minutes.
Eh, I am okay with the Cavs getting the 2 or 3 seed. This is assuming of course that the Cs once again get the 1 seed. I would hate to face the Cavs in the 2nd round. Keep overplaying Lebron and let him get burned out by the ECF. Over 46 mins tonight - I just don't know if he can keep this up through June.
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Patty mills is garbage
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Melo shot a 2 Lol
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Nuggets vs Pelicans
25-4, nuggets winning so far
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Welcome to Shaqtin, Diallo.
Just cut to the basket while looking at the floor. Jameer Nelson donked him off the head with the ball.
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The Clippers have lost 8 out of their last 9. If the Clippers continue to go in the tank I wonder if Ainge can get Lou Williams (1 year $7 million) with the DPE. We need clips to blow it up. Just the scorer the Celtics need off the bench.
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Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
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Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there
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Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there
Nets also currently have the 10th worst record, so that Kyrie trade ain't looking to good for the Cavs at the moment.
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Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there
Nets also currently have the 10th worst record, so that Kyrie trade ain't looking to good for the Cavs at the moment.
lol
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Let it go... Let it goooooooo.
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A near perfect day for us; Detroit, Wizards, Pelicans, Lakers lose and Brooklyn, Bulls, Suns, Kings all win!
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Gentry said everyone embarrassed their franchise tonight. Lol
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Sindarius Thornwell is the basketball version of Marcus Smart. Sigh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n6pmndMjJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KocuudXc3lQ
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The Clippers have lost 8 out of their last 9. If the Clippers continue to go in the tank I wonder if Ainge can get Lou Williams (1 year $7 million) with the DPE. We need clips to blow it up. Just the scorer the Celtics need off the bench.
He is a 6'1" SG who is terrible defensively and more of a volume scorer. Not the type of guy who fits with the Celtics.
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.
That's a legit playoff team in the East.
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.
That's a legit playoff team in the East.
The 76ers lucked into the perfect team to beat the Warriors, size, spacing and passing. They essentially fluked what Pop is trying to do in San Antonio...Warriors have no answer to Embiid.
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A near perfect day for us; Detroit, Wizards, Pelicans, Lakers lose and Brooklyn, Bulls, Suns, Kings all win!
the gods have smiled on us :D
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.
That's a legit playoff team in the East.
The miracle is only 4 turnovers. Can't see that holding up so expect GSW to come back but it was a very impressive 1st half.
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Embiid just got injured. Unclear if serious
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GSW climbing back. Down 12 now with lots of time left.
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GSW climbing back. Down 12 now with lots of time left.
You can never be too confident against the Warriors with the lead.
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GSW climbing back. Down 12 now with lots of time left.
You can never be too confident against the Warriors with the lead.
Warriors now winning
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GSW just erased a 23 point deficit in 10 minutes of play in the third in Philly.
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.
That's a legit playoff team in the East.
Confusing as I saw this too (Simmons with 18 in the first half). He now shows 15 in the box score near end of the third.
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Wow GSW up by 10. a 33 point swing in about 15 minutes.
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Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.
That's a legit playoff team in the East.
Confusing as I saw this too (Simmons with 18 in the first half). He now shows 15 in the box score near end of the third.
That's a relief, I thought I was going crazy for a minute there.
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Warriors completely flipped the switch on the 76ers....wow
up by 12 now, down by 18-19 before right?
sheesh, curry going off.
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:o :o :o :o
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO9RlohUEAA6V3a.jpg)
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Marc Gasol got a tech for kicking a player's shoe off the court LOL.
Marc isn't a tech kind of guy....looked like he was just trying to get it out of the way before someone rolled an ankle.
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Mavs beat the bucks.
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Why did Giannis play 40 minutes?
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:o :o :o :o
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO9RlohUEAA6V3a.jpg)
76ers can’t defend the perimeter
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Why did Giannis play 40 minutes?
Fairly slow pace game. Kidd tried for a little too long to pull the Bucks back into it though.
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Wow GSW up by 10. a 33 point swing in about 15 minutes.
They just need LeBron.
All C’s fans should be shook.
🙄
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Today we need:
Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)
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Today we need:
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)
No, we don't. The Heat are a better team that the Pacers and it should be proven over the course of the season.
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Today we need:
Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)
Firstly, posts like this are probably best for the Lakers watch thread.
Secondly, I’d prefer Phoenix over Chicago. The Bulls are terrible and want to get that high pick this year. The Lakers are not finishing below Chicago. Phoenix has had a bottom 4 record two years running, and might want to pretend for some portion of the year that they’re not terrible. It’s possible (although not probable) that the Lakers finish beneath them. Wins over Chicago will he’ll that cause.
Remember, the big drop off between odds is from 4th place to 5th (from 70.9% that we get the pick to 46.5%). We want the Lakers to have a bottom 4 record to have a better than even chance to get the pick. So it’s best if 2-3 teams on the bottom prop up the record of the next tier of bad teams (so Chicago, Dallas, and Sacramento lose to Phoenix and Atlanta), while of course beating the Lakers when they play.
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Today we need:
Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)
Firstly, posts like this are probably best for the Lakers watch thread.
Secondly, I’d prefer Phoenix over Chicago. The Bulls are terrible and want to get that high pick this year. The Lakers are not finishing below Chicago. Phoenix has had a bottom 4 record two years running, and might want to pretend for some portion of the year that they’re not terrible. It’s possible (although not probable) that the Lakers finish beneath them. Wins over Chicago will he’ll that cause.
Remember, the big drop off between odds is from 4th place to 5th (from 70.9% that we get the pick to 46.5%). We want the Lakers to have a bottom 4 record to have a better than even chance to get the pick. So it’s best if 2-3 teams on the bottom prop up the record of the next tier of bad teams (so Chicago, Dallas, and Sacramento lose to Phoenix and Atlanta), while of course beating the Lakers when they play.
TP. I’ll just add I’m hoping the Kings catch the Lakers (only 2 wins away and the Lakers have a really tough schedule in December coming up). The Mavs just had a surprising victory over the Bucks so who knows with them. I’d feel a whole lot better if the Lakers secure the 3rd worst record.
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If the Nets beat the Warriors ...
Then i need to check my lotto numberb
The m sure Ive won
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So far Nets down 24 in the 3rd q
Not looking good for the Nets
Pacers beat the heat by 25. (We play the heat the 22nd and pacers the 25th)
Raptors beat the wiz by 9. Wolves beating Pistons by like 6 right now in the 1st
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Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier? Legit question. He's about the same age, but he's 6-6, can really shoot, plays under control, and knows how to run an offense.
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Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier?
In short, yes.
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Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier?
In short, yes.
Yeah, that's what my eyes tell me. In addition, a quick glance at his stats show that he's averaging 11 ppg, a ridiculous 44.6% from 3, and 5.6 apg (with only 1 tov).
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Warriors and pistons won
Suns up 3
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Suns up 9, 5 min left in game
Nuggets down 6, end of 1st q
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Pistons over the T-wolves in Minn today. Seems like Detroit is having a really great start to the season, kind of under the radar right now.
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Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.
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Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.
The Pistons played a game in Minnesota yesterday.
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Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.
The Pistons played a game in Minnesota yesterday.
sure, but assuming they finish this game out they will have won 6 of their last 7 with their only loss being a very close game in Houston.
Although the only noteworthy teams in the 7 game stretch would be Houston (they lost), Milwaukee(good matchup for Cle) and Detroit.
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Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.
was nothing more than old guys taking time to get it going. oh well, WE can still beat them!
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Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter
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Ball is really really bad.
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Well...OKC blowing out the Warriors. And Westbrook and Durant had a little altercation too!
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Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter
Don't worry a new thread will disappear with a few of Rollie thoughts.
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We've been a little spoiled compared to the rest of the league.
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Nets up 4 pts in the 4th on the blazers. Whether they win or not, this nets team has proven to be not the same garbage losing streak team as in the past few years
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Nets blew their lead and lost
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Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter
Don't worry a new thread will disappear with a few of Rollie thoughts.
That made me spit my "soda" out. I play a game..in the right menu is Latest Forum Topics and I try to guess which ones are Rollie from the headlines.
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Thunder down 23 entering the 4th against the Mavs in Dallas. What's up with that team? They just can't it together
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Who gets fired first, Donovan or Doc?
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After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.
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After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.
That's inexcusable for both teams!
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After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.
That's inexcusable for both teams!
Afternoon games are the worst in the NBA. 45-42 at the half is low-scoring, but not obscene.
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The thunder are one of the teams making it easy for the Lakers. The Thunder remain winless on the road against the Western Conference and are now once again 3 games under .500, with two humiliating performances following Wednesday’s big win over the Warriors.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Yeah, I’m for the Cavs on this one.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Yeah, I’m for the Cavs on this one.
Sad, sad day.
I'm for a random meteor blasting down through the roof and wiping out both teams. It's a curse I once reserved for Heat/Lakers games...
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
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Griffin just went to the locker room after Rivers landed on his leg while fighting for a loose ball.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
Thanks man tp. Aside from us it was the most entertaining game on the schedule by a mile. Was actually the only other game with two +500 teams. Sorry your team lost tazz
I would have preferred both teams lost, more bummed we lost
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SWEET LOU!
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Warriors lose at home to the kings without curry and durant
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Warriors lose at home to the kings without curry and durant
Lakers down 115-120 to LAC with 11.8 secs remaining. Lou with 42 :)
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?
honestly cant tell
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?
honestly cant tell
Yes. But cclay is also my dude, so I hoped to kill 2 birds with one stone.
And I can appreciate the 76ers --Simmons is the only bright spot on my challenged fantasy team.
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Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.
I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However, I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case. The sixers heads are getting too big.
Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now. For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.
Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?
honestly cant tell
Yes. But cclay is also my dude, so I hoped to kill 2 birds with one stone.
I can appreciate the 76ers tho -Simmons is the only bright spot on my challenged fantasy team.
I don't think anyone has ever actually questioned my love of celtics. I stand up for people that act like everything we do is crap and everything other teams do is great. I'm usually on the same page with Tar Heels and he is also my dude
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Well it looks like Griffin may be done for the season. I hope not, but he injured his knee late in the game and it didn’t look good. He was able to walk off on his own but I’d be surprised if it’s just a hyperextension.
If it’s the worst case, that’s bad news for the Lakers pick this year and maybe the Clippers pick going forward.
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Well it looks like Griffin may be done for the season. I hope not, but he injured his knee late in the game and it didn’t look good. He was able to walk off on his own but I’d be surprised if it’s just a hyperextension.
If it’s the worst case, that’s bad news for the Lakers pick this year and maybe the Clippers pick going forward.
I think it’d be good news for the Clippers pick. If Griffin is out for most of the year, but able to come back next season, they can have a year in the tank to get a good draft pick, but at the same time might not feel the need to blow everything up this summer.
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Kevin Love 32 at half (he probably will not play full second half cause Cavs are dominating the Heat) They need to get Derrick Rose and Tristan Thompson back to start playing awful again.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
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Porzingis with a brutal looking ankle injury:
WARNING GRAPHIC VID (like 2 notches less cringey than Hayward, for context)
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/936034774933585920 (https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/936034774933585920)
Update: X-rays apparently negative. God bless young joints.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
I was acutally joking in my posts. To be honest, other than Lebron and maybe Love and Isaiah. I'm not sure if the Cavs are really more talented than the Celtics.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
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Can the Thunder get any worse?
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Can the Thunder get any worse?
I get the scary feeling this means George could be traded mid-season... to Cleveland.. :o
Or he just walks this summer and goes to Lakers.
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Lol they're hacking Simmons in Philly due to his terrible free throws.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
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Lol they're hacking Simmons in Philly due to his terrible free throws.
And it's working. :P
Their lead to cut to just 4.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Do they have the better team?
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Do they have the better team?
It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Do they have the better team?
It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
How is it rushing?
I dont get this. We have been better than them so far, but thats unlikely to continue. Are the Pistons better than them too?
Last year, according to most metrics we were right there with Cleveland. In reality, we werent they were way better.
With Hayward Im all aboard, but without hayward, our talent level just isnt that high. Im not gonna overreact to a fast start. Is Houston better than Golden State? is Philly better than Washington and Milwaukee? I dont think so. I dont think a Leonardless Spurs team is actually the 3rd best team in the West.
Remember, last year our differentials with Cleveland were very close and we had more wins then them. But guess what? Cleveland was a lot better. When they wanted to crush us, they crushed us. Thus far weve been quite lucky in winning close games and with our opponents missing shots they typically make. This wont continue. Unless, of course, you think we are gonna win ~67 games.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Do they have the better team?
It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
When have the Cavs ever cared about the regular season? The East goes through LeBron until it doesn’t. It will take a hellacious series to knock them off this year. Games will come down to winning time and the C’s second best player got hurt 5 minutes into the season. Relying way too much on a rookie and sophomore this year. Expectations got way too increased after that win streak. The C’s are still underdogs right now.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Do they have the better team?
It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
How is it rushing?
I dont get this. We have been better than them so far, but thats unlikely to continue. Are the Pistons better than them too?
Last year, according to most metrics we were right there with Cleveland. In reality, we werent they were way better.
With Hayward Im all aboard, but without hayward, our talent level just isnt that high. Im not gonna overreact to a fast start. Is Houston better than Golden State? is Philly better than Washington and Milwaukee? I dont think so. I dont think a Leonardless Spurs team is actually the 3rd best team in the West.
Remember, last year our differentials with Cleveland were very close and we had more wins then them. But guess what? Cleveland was a lot better. When they wanted to crush us, they crushed us. Thus far weve been quite lucky in winning close games and with our opponents missing shots they typically make. This wont continue. Unless, of course, you think we are gonna win ~67 games.
To answer your questions yes I think philly is better than Milwaukee and Washington. I don't think Houston is better than golden state but they are pretty close. I also just feel like Hayward would be back if we made it far enough to play them in playoffs. Cleveland also has some of the oldest players in the league that may be warm down later in the year based on how lue runs them into the ground. We should continue to get better from our young and improving players over the next 6 months.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
The question is right now in this moment in time. It's hard to argue that right now Cleveland is the better team. I think the majority of people would take Boston in a 7 game series right now, which is ultimately what we're talking about.
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.
People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.
Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.
Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
The question is right now in this moment in time. It's hard to argue that right now Cleveland is the better team. I think the majority of people would take Boston in a 7 game series right now, which is ultimately what we're talking about.
If they playoffs started today I'd have Cle coming out of the East all day long
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What's up with NBA superstars getting ejected this week?
LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and now Kevin Durant? Wow! Has there been a star-treatment disagreement between the superstars and referees or what :o
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So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall. I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.
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So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall. I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.
They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?
The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.
The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.
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So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall. I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.
They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?
The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.
The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.
Bucks will be the best rebounding team in the league, but their shooting have left much to be desired and their perimeter defense is one of the worst in the league.
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Bucks have a coaching issue.
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So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall. I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.
They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?
The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.
The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.
Poor wording. I meant to specifically to question the Pistons as a playoff threat. The Bucks with Jordon don't concern me. He'd clog the paint for Giannis. Jabari is a lousy defender and he's combing back from ACL surgery.
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Our poor resident misunderstood "superstar" demarcus with another innefficient meaningless double double in a loss.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Poor trade by Denver but they do have Harris and Murray. What about the Pistons choosing Kennard over Mitchell?
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Our poor resident misunderstood "superstar" demarcus with another innefficient meaningless double double in a loss.
Didn't see the game but doesn't look like Cousins was to blame based on the box score. Looks like Rondo had a good night 13/11/8 on good shooting.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.
Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..
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Derrick Rose reports back to Cavs. I predict the win streak ends as soon as he plays legit minutes.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.
Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..
They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.
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I just checked the score of Jazz-Wizards. Utah really murdered Washington in this game.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.
Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..
They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.
Burks is much better than Exum. He lit it up again tonight with 27 points. He's much more proven than Exum, and he's just rounding back into form after his past injuries. They should move on from Exum.
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Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.
Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..
They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.
Burks is much better than Exum. He lit it up again tonight with 27 points. He's much more proven than Exum, and he's just rounding back into form after his past injuries. They should move on from Exum.
Utah seems like they have really figured something out the last few weeks. Very impressive stretch
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Rick Carlisle said Nerlens Noel will be having surgery on his left thumb to repair a torn ligament. "He'll be out for several weeks. I don't know how long."
https://twitter.com/bobbykaralla/status/938545119002849280
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Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!
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Cavs streak over.
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Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!
Sorry, Cavs, our streak was better!
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Lebron with more than 35 minutes again.
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Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!
Sorry, Cavs, our streak was better!
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kyrie will be popping a bottle tonight. He gets the last laugh
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BIZARRE that they’re repeating the play
Edit: Clips hang on
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Zizic with the start in Cleveland tonight with Love out.
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Zizic with the start in Cleveland tonight with Love out.
Looks like it didn't go to well for him.
Either way, w/o Love it will be tough for Cleveland.
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Josh Jackson has really not looked good thus far.
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Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought I’d say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
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The Pelicans gave up 40 points to the Sixers without Embiid. And they are playing with Cousins and Davis.
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Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought I’d say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
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Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought I’d say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
not playing next to Westbrook is big too.
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Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought I’d say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
Saw this tweet online:
'Victor Oladipo's nickname should be "Rated R", because he's showing more adult stuff than PG 13'
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The Pelicans gave up 40 points to the Sixers without Embiid. And they are playing with Cousins and Davis.
That really was a pathetic empty game of basketball void of defense.
Neither of those teams would be proud of that film.
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Also Luwawu Cabarrot is truly awful.
I remember a poster on here saying that he was the equivalent to Jaylen Brown for a much lower pick. My goodness. Some sixer fan quotes for reference.
Bayliss plays like dog Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. Wish we traded him instead of sauce. He is horrible. Him and TLC can p--- off.
Furkan done more then Bayless and TLC from 1 shot.
I just hope this is the game Brown finally realises Holmes > Amir and Furkan > TLC+Bayless. Go home Bayless you're drunk.
Bayless and TLC. Just lol.
I love how there's no crowd so you can just hear Brett yelling constantly at TLC.
Can't be any worse then TLC. He is terrible. Can't hit open 3's, can't defend and turns it over.
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#BringBackRondo
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Rondo dominated!
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Pels are neck-and-neck with the Rockets right now.
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Rondo with a triple-double!
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Cousins forcing things and missing FTs. Glad we didn't invest on him.
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Dumb coaching by the Pelicans. Rondo should handle the ball.
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Pelicans are a joke
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Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought I’d say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
not playing next to Westbrook is big too.
Old post but I'm going to give you a TP for it.
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The Detroit Pistons
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Also Luwawu Cabarrot is truly awful.
I remember a poster on here saying that he was the equivalent to Jaylen Brown for a much lower pick. My goodness. Some sixer fan quotes for reference.
Bayliss plays like dog ****. Wish we traded him instead of sauce. He is horrible. Him and TLC can p--- off.
Furkan done more then Bayless and TLC from 1 shot.
I just hope this is the game Brown finally realises Holmes > Amir and Furkan > TLC+Bayless. Go home Bayless you're drunk.
Bayless and TLC. Just lol.
I love how there's no crowd so you can just hear Brett yelling constantly at TLC.
Can't be any worse then TLC. He is terrible. Can't hit open 3's, can't defend and turns it over.
I bet I know which poster.
He would still probably defend the position as well.
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
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The difference in this game is really butler. The young guys on both teams are making mistakes but butler has taken over
Edit this game actually became really ugly in the 4th. This is the worst I have seen Simmons look. I think the 76ers young players may be trying to do too much for the national TV game. Lots of attempts at home run passes
And just like that they came together with some good plays. Back to a good game
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Butler is a bad man out there tonight. Fun finish.
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Butler is a bad man out there tonight. Fun finish.
I really wish the Celtics had gotten him
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up.
Couple rando observations.
Wiggins body language screams demoted. Wouldn’t surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.
Thibs team plays some bad d. What is this zone crap they run? What ever happened to straight man on man?
Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters.
Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up.
Couple rando observations.
Wiggins body language screams demoted. Wouldn’t surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.
Thibs team plays some bad d. What is this zone crap they run? What ever happened to straight man on man?
Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters.
Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up.
Couple rando observations.
Wiggins body language screams demoted. Wouldn’t surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.
Thibs team plays some bad d. What is this zone crap they run? What ever happened to straight man on man?
Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters.
Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up.
Couple rando observations.
Wiggins body language screams demoted. Wouldn’t surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.
Thibs team plays some bad d. What is this zone crap they run? What ever happened to straight man on man?
Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters.
Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
With Thibs coaching, they ought to be at least middle of the pack defensively.
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Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up.
Couple rando observations.
Wiggins body language screams demoted. Wouldn’t surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.
Thibs team plays some bad d. What is this zone crap they run? What ever happened to straight man on man?
Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters.
Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
With Thibs coaching, they ought to be at least middle of the pack defensively.
I think their biggest problem is definitely the minutes played by their starters. There was a good article on the Ringer about it. I do think they will maybe get a bit better over the course of the season as they are still fitting together a lot of new rotation pieces (Teague, Gibson, Buter, Crawford)
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The bulls best two man combo is Mirotic and Portis for a net +33 over 44 minutes.
:o
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http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS
Cleveland has had the softest schedule in the league thus far, which seems to validate many of our feelings that Cleveland’s recent run was a bit of a mirage.
However, all that is about to change. They’re about ready to start a stretch until March where they’ll play mostly playoff teams/contenders and the elite teams of the league (GS x2, BOS x 2, HOU, SAS). They’ve got a pretty tough schedule until about the second week of March, and I see us putting some more separation in the standings during that time.
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The bulls best two man combo is Mirotic and Portis for a net +33 over 44 minutes.
:o
You mean their best one-two punch?
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http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS
Cleveland has had the softest schedule in the league thus far, which seems to validate many of our feelings that Cleveland’s recent run was a bit of a mirage.
However, all that is about to change. They’re about ready to start a stretch until March where they’ll play mostly playoff teams/contenders and the elite teams of the league (GS x2, BOS x 2, HOU, SAS). They’ve got a pretty tough schedule until about the second week of March, and I see us putting some more separation in the standings during that time.
Should be some interesting takes if IT comes back and the team starts to really struggle.
I think IT will be a bit rusty for a while, but the real reason for the struggles will be that Lebron knows he needs to chill at some point and the schedule will be way more difficult than its been.
If Boston can avoid any huge skids, I think we should finish with a better regular season record than Cleveland. They have a tough schedule and an old team.
Im actually kind of intrigued with Toronto.
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Okafor 20 minutes of gametime getting slaughtered before being sent to the DNP house by Brooklyn just like at Philly.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've got a bust here boys.
Clean, crispy bust.
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Kings beat the Sixers.
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Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
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Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
Very nice indeed!
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Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...
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Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...
Lebron goes to the bench and the Cavs go on a 24-2 run and now have the lead...interesting.
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Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...
Lebron goes to the bench and the Cavs go on a 24-2 run and now have the lead...interesting.
You can tell how young this Bucks team is. Had trouble dealing with that run and converted to all isolation/individual stuff offensively.
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Bucks were winning this game but it never seemed legit. Kidd won’t be back next year IMO.
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Snell!
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I'm sure glad Lebron came back just in time to blow the game that his bench was winning ;)
Unfortunately, I think he re-took the lead again in 'clutch points' over Kyrie.
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LeBron is a shooter now?
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Nice to see the Cavs drop one!
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LeBron is a shooter now?
Always been a "shooter"......just no one has ever caught him! ;D
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Nice loss by The Cavs there...
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Embiid hurt again... will miss at least 4 games following them playing 48 minutes in okc game. Still not sure why they did that... https://www.libertyballers.com/2017/12/20/16801108/joel-embiid-may-not-play-until-christmas-sixers-76ers-knicks-porzingis-simmons-philadelphia
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Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.
Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.
Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.
We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
Well here it is.
We've lost a few and aren't as bad as the doomsday gang says.
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Man, this NBA season has been wild.
Minnesota and OKC now the 4 and 5 seeds in the West? Dang... :o
Felt like they were toiling a few weeks ago, oh how times change lol.
The thing is though, it feels like all the playoff teams are virtually set for each conference, barring a massive meltdown late in the season for a team or two. Like, the 9th seed in both conferences are like 2+ games behind (though still close), but after that the rest of them are bad teams/tankers for the most part. That's not to say they can't sneak in late in the season, but I wouldn't put my $$$ on it at the moment.
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Man, this NBA season has been wild.
Minnesota and OKC now the 4 and 5 seeds in the West? Dang... :o
Felt like they were toiling a few weeks ago, oh how times change lol.
The thing is though, it feels like all the playoff teams are virtually set for each conference, barring a massive meltdown late in the season for a team or two. Like, the 9th seed in both conferences are like 2+ games behind (though still close), but after that the rest of them are bad teams/tankers for the most part. That's not to say they can't sneak in late in the season, but I wouldn't put my $$$ on it at the moment.
I saw it coming since the summer when Minnesota acquired Jimmy Butler, Jamal Crawford, Taj Gibson, and Jeff Teague. They would be a top 5 team in the West. OKC- obvious when they formed their own Big 3 of Russell Westbrook, Paul George, and Carmelo Anthony.
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Probably the worst final 3 minutes of basketball ive ever seen from the Knicks. Just missed free throw after turnover after missed free throw. It was bad.
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
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Cavs are stinking it up on the offensive end in Golden State. Fun stuff because neither team can do much
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Love is feasting on GSW. These 2 teams are still in a league of their own. Their size alone stands out. Barring injury, GSW will be winning another chip this year.
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Old friend Crowder with a big shot there. Man, this is GSW without Curry. Unbelievably stacked. For some reason, it's still jarring to see them play together.
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
Lol
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
Lol
How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious. I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
Lol
How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious. I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.
Wait how is saying "lol" that someone described a close game as being pulverized mean? I literally thought it was funny and laughed about it
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76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
Lol
How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious. I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.
Wait how is saying "lol" that someone described a close game as being pulverized mean? I literally thought it was funny and laughed about it
I was referring to Freddie. I just enjoy seeing your name in posts. <3
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LOL that was a CLEAR foul, Durant..
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Dude fouled LeBron James not ONCE but TWICE at the end, there.
ANYONE could see that.
Then he's going to put off by saying "He's too big...he's too big"....LOL!
LeBron James is the BEST player in the NBA, period.
Durant should just stop.
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Jeff Teague probably done for the year. Minny will need to look for PG help now.
Rozier for Shabazz?
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Rondo just dished 25 assists against the Nets. 4 players on the team scored 20 points or more.
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Interesting thing about Sac:
Their current bench (Carter, Cauley-Stein, Hield, Bogdanovic, Justin Jackson)
is probably as good if not better than their starters (Randolph, Frank Mason, Garret Temple, George Hill, Malachi Richardson)
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Interesting thing about Sac:
Their current bench (Carter, Cauley-Stein, Hield, Bogdanovic, Justin Jackson)
is probably as good if not better than their starters (Randolph, Frank Mason, Garret Temple, George Hill, Malachi Richardson)
doesnt fox come off the bench too? thats a nice bench they got. their strategy seems to be to get a lead somehow with those vet starters, then extend it with their mostly young but very talented bench
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Rondo just dished 25 assists against the Nets. 4 players on the team scored 20 points or more.
It's crazy he did that while only scoring 2 pts
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Free agent guard Gerald Green is finalizing a non-guaranteed deal to sign with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/946470469024264193
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Wiz got a 6 pt lead on rockets
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And after facing a crushing defeat from Boston, the Rockets move on to fall to the Washington Wizards tonight. They have dropped 5 games in a row. What's Harden's excuse now?
Houston, you have a problem.
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Thunder got screwed on a non review where Greek Freek stepped out of bounds. Ouch
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Donovan Mitchell is legit.
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Donovan Mitchell is a bad man.
EDIT: Donovan Mitchell is legit.
Lol
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Cavs lose third in a row!
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Has there been a Mitchell vs Tatum debate yet? lol
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When it comes to killing people Mitchell might be a bad man, but Tatum is a professional, silent assassin.
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poor diva lost on his birthday ......life isn't fair
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LeBron can't win in Utah.
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Maybe it's the thin Salt Lake City air.
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Are we going for Tatum or Brown for the ASG?
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The "super sikh" is having some quality minutes in this Bucks/Raps game.
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Kris Dunn showing why a lot of Cbloggers wanted him..
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On virtually any other night, I would love a Cavs loss. However, if they lose tonight they’ll be on a four game losing streak heading into a big, nationally-televised game in Boston. It certainly makes me wonder whether a Cavs win tonight is ultimately best for Boston, because I imagine Lebron will be locked in tomorrow night if they’re still on a losing streak.
As for IT, he’s certainly not shy in his first game back with 5 shot attempts in his first 4 minutes and 7 total in his first 6 minutes. It’ll be interesting to see how he adjusts to playing with both Love and Lebron, because he certainly won’t have that much free reign with his shot selection when he starts playing regularly with them.
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As for IT, he’s certainly not shy in his first game back with 5 shot attempts in his first 4 minutes and 7 total in his first 6 minutes.
I don't think he's ever gonna be shy about that, haha.
IT should help an already very good offensive team become even better on that end.
Currently Cleveland is #3 in offensive efficiency, with IT adding his scoring I suspect they'll inch closer to #2 (GSW) and may even challenge for #1 (Houston), especially with Harden missing time.
At the same time, Cleveland is currently 28th in defensive efficiency, so with IT playing significant minutes I wouldn't be shocked if they fell to 30th even as they inch toward #1 in offense.
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Lebron just got called for a travel.
felt it was newsworthy.
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Cavs are just stacked .
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Lebron just got called for a travel.
felt it was newsworthy.
Did you see that shameless flop of the year candidate that he had right before that? Lol Dude acted like he just got hit by lightning!
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It’s pretty hilarious that Lebron is mad at anyone about flopping after that Oscar-worthy performance he put up earlier.
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The Cavaliers with Isaiah are a fantastic offensive team that can score a ton. Problem is, their defense is still BAD and other teams will put up a ton of points on them too (Portland has like 56 points at halftime vs. them)
Cleveland should still get through the East relatively easy, but against Golden State I frankly think they'll get beat even worse because of that defense (unless they make some major trade).
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The Cavaliers with Isaiah are a fantastic offensive team that can score a ton. Problem is, their defense is still BAD and other teams will put up a ton of points on them too (Portland has like 56 points at halftime vs. them)
Cleveland should still get through the East relatively easy, but against Golden State I frankly think they'll get beat even worse because of that defense (unless they make some major trade).
They might still be the (slight) favorites with a healthy IT if Hayward doesn’t come back by then, but this will definitely be their most difficult Eastern playoffs, especially if they stay in the third position without HCA. Unlike in previous years with Kyrie, they’ll now have to gameplan for IT mismatches, which given Lue’s/this team’s defensive track record, doesn’t look like something they are capable of doing, especially in an East that boasts big, offensively talented guards and tons of mismatch opportunities.
Remember how bad Toronto and Washington abused IT’s size last season and into the playoffs? They’re not going to be able to simply outscore their opponents in the playoffs. If the top-3 would stay as is, I’d like to see them draw one of Milwaukee, Detroit, or Washington in the first round, which would set up an incredibly difficult path to the Finals for them.
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cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo
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cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo
I don't think they are cruising. Cavs are having a tough time with the Blazers.
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Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.
Was this trade worth it after all?
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cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo
I don't think they are cruising. Cavs are having a tough time with the Blazers.
they cruise with napier out there.
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Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.
Was this trade worth it after all?
One game.
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First game back and he's looking good. You can tell he's playing cautious right now until he finds his rhythm again.
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Yes. The trade was another smart move by Ainge. IT is damaged and a free agent next year. The pick is declining in value. And, Crowder and Zizic were just salary cap throw-ins. Meanwhile, Kyrie is a star who can be the number one scoring option on a championship winner.
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Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.
Was this trade worth it after all?
Let's wait till they actually face elite teams like the Spurs or Warriors. Their defense is still suspect.
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Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.
Was this trade worth it after all?
Yes. The trade was about the future not this year.
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The trade is DONE. OVER. CANT GO BACK. GET OVER IT. It4 is a good player, Cavs will be good with another good player. I know you guys want the trade to mean that it4 is now going to be bad but it doesn't! DA said from the beginning that IT(3) would come back but that it would take longer than they expected. He didn't trade him because he thought he would never play nor be good again! He actually said the opposite.
IT4 is almost 30 and looking for a fat check and Kyrie is 25, there is your main reasons the trade happened.
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honestly with how well Kyrie has played, I don't even worry at this point if we 'won' or 'lost' the trade. we have a great team, a great core to add to with GH coming back next year, and maybe the lakers pick.
best of luck to IT, hope he gets back to fully healthy. he certainly didn't look super mobile tonight. He hit shots, good for him.
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
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Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
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I wish IT would have played us but let's think about it, would you want to play Smart your first or first couple games back? He wants to work himself back into it, not into a brick wall like Smaht!
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
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How many games do the Cavs take off GS this year? One or zero?
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How many games do the Cavs take off GS this year? One or zero?
haha I am not convinced that they even make it that far.
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
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Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
On the second night of a back to back, no less.
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
2nd that. But that was true even before GH went down.
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
That's before or after Isaiah moves to the starting lineup?
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
It certainly looks like it. Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards. Do we have a decent counter for those guys? IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.
JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis
We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad. Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.
I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron.
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
It certainly looks like it. Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards. Do we have a decent counter for those guys? IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.
JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis
We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad. Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.
I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron.
Just curious...who on the Cavs defends Kyrie?
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Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
It certainly looks like it. Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards. Do we have a decent counter for those guys? IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.
JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis
We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad. Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.
I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron.
Just curious...who on the Cavs defends Kyrie?
That would be IT....lol
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense. :)
In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year. Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love? Maybe, but maybe not.
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense.
In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year. Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love? Maybe, but maybe not.
TP
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense. :)
In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year. Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love? Maybe, but maybe not.
I don't think he should - Kevin Love has been fantastic for them so far this season. Easily the most comfortable he's looked in Cleveland, I think you have to keep him involved offensively which should mean less shots for IT. Will that happen? Idk.
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19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers. that isn't going to happen though. he is going to start. I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
lol that wasn't what I meant. The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts. Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense.
In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year. Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love? Maybe, but maybe not.
TP
Right back at ya. IT shot lights out tonight. Let's see if he can get his mobility back to almost 100% before the playoffs, who knows how bad that hip really is?
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Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
The #7 seeded Blazers.
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Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
The #7 seeded Blazers.
Sure, but the Cavs were at home, hadn't played since Saturday, and the Blazers were on the second night of a back-to-back and that game went to OT.
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Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
The #7 seeded Blazers, who are 19-18, playing in Cleveland, on the second night of a back to back coming off of an OVERTIME game last night, and having Lillard just coming back from a four game absence.
FTFY. ;)
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IT will extract his revenge and sign his Brinks deals
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Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?
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Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?
Yep...give me Green over Nader each and every day please.
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Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?
Yep...give me Green over Nader each and every day please.
took the words right out of my mouth
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I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.
I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.
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I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.
I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.
agree , Houston s game makes my skin crawl.
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I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.
I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.
Unless they stay incredibly hot from behind the arc they are second round playoff fodder at best. Shooting over 45 threes a game is not conducive to the playoffs.
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All Star voting so far. Not sure how many reserves get in, but Tatum has the best chances of our two rookies. http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/04/2018-nba-all-star-voting-first-returns-revealed#/
Eastern Conference
Frontcourt
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 863,416
2. LeBron James (CLE) 856,080
3. Joel Embiid (PHI) 433,161
4. Kristaps Porzingis (NYK) 359,459
5. Kevin Love (CLE) 221,969
6. Al Horford (BOS) 120,016
7. Jayson Tatum (BOS) 98,586
8. Andre Drummond (DET) 85,374
9. Enes Kanter (NYK) 83,102
10. Dwight Howard (CHA) 57,730
Guards
1. Kyrie Irving (BOS) 802,834
2. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 259,368
3. Victor Oladipo (IND) 251,886
4. Ben Simmons (PHI) 210,085
5. John Wall (WAS) 175,990
6. Dwyane Wade (CLE) 165,163
7. Isaiah Thomas (CLE) 87,680
8. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 85,070
9. Bradley Beal (WAS) 71,079
10. Jaylen Brown (BOS) 51,562
Western Conference
Frontcourt
1. Kevin Durant (GSW) 767,402
2. Anthony Davis (NOP) 393,000
3. DeMarcus Cousins (NOP) 356,340
4. Draymond Green (GSW) 325,612
5. Paul George (OKC) 291,495
6. Kawhi Leonard (SAS) 212,650
7. Carmelo Anthony (OKC) 194,239
8. Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 188,240
9. Kyle Kuzma (LAL) 184,338
10. LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS) 153,599
Guards
1. Stephen Curry (GSW) 735,115
2. James Harden (HOU) 602,040
3. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 438,469
4. Klay Thompson (GSW) 359,442
5. Manu Ginobili (SAS) 231,460
6. Chris Paul (HOU) 174,343
7. Damian Lillard (POR) 148,622
8. Lonzo Ball (LAL) 120,817
9. Devin Booker (PHO) 91,562
10. Jimmy Butler (MIN) 88,009
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Wow!! Gianis lead, I didn’t know he was so popular .
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Wow!! Gianis lead, I didn’t know he was so popular .
Why wouldn't he be? Best young player in the league with an exciting playing style and having an MVP caliber season. If you're tired of the old guard, he's a breath of fresh air. I think in the travesty of an allstar game last year he at least attempted to play some defense.
Hopefully Giannis will maintain a top 2 spot so he'll be one of the captains who gets to pick the sides. I'd like to see him and Embiid on the same team.
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I haven't watched an AllStar game since Dee Brown pumped them up. For whatever reason All Star games do nothing for me. We see these players nonstop on ESPN (2000s I'm aware they just show reality TV these days) Youtube clips and all over the internet.
Maybe all star games had a purpose when you only got 4 channels and you only got to see star players a few times a year if they played your team.
I guess I've reached the point in my life where everything is "Get off my lawn" & "back in my day" :-X
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The Rockets terminated Demetrius Jackson's two-way contract. He will sign a 10-day contract, but does not appear in team's plans. Will be assigned to RGV, source said, and play in G League Showcase during his 10-day.
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/949691267981684737
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Sixers signed James Young to a 2-way contract.
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Kind of watching the Pelicans-Timberwolves game now. That is a crazy color for a jersey.
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Jae Crowder is having the worst season of his career. He's not even playing good defense, as partly evident by the Cavs being the third worst defensive team in the NBA. Probably second worst after tonight.
It doesn't really matter I guess since the Warriors are unbeatable this season anyway.
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Pelicans getting creamed so far. Wolves are up 91-60 with 2 mins left in the 3rd.
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Wondering when the Pellies are going to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellies are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players
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Windering when the Pellies are gou g to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellues are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players
The Pelicans are 8th seed right now.
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Windering when the Pellies are gou g to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellues are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players
The Pelicans are 8th seed right now.
Only because the Clippers have the worst medical staff in the NBA. (I have no idea if that’s true, but given how much their team gets injured every single year, I’ve decided they must be.)
The Pels will not make the playoffs.
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Kings needs to hold on with the lead.
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IT highlights vs. the Magic. He looks good and he will make life easier for the Cavs on offense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc63btaLJs0
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Isaiah looks great.
I wish him the best.
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Cavs offense looks good but the defense have left alot to be desired. They let a terrible offensive team like Magic score 127 on them.
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JJ Barea is having yet another under-the-radar season.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bareajo01.html
For a guy that is listed at 6 feet (very generous height measurement IMO), to be doing these things year in and year out, for me is a proof that he is a fantastic basketball talent.
He is an NBA champ and it is not accidentally.
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Minny up 45-24 on cavs midway through the 2cd
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Minny up 45-24 on cavs midway through the 2cd
Yeah, IT 0-7 so far tonight
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Pacers routing the Bucks early in the 4th early in the 4th. Oladipo with a really nice step back to beat the buzzer at the end of the 3rd.
Are the Bucks as good as we thought earlier in the year?
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JJ Barea is having yet another under-the-radar season.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bareajo01.html
For a guy that is listed at 6 feet (very generous height measurement IMO), to be doing these things year in and year out, for me is a proof that he is a fantastic basketball talent.
He is an NBA champ and it is not accidentally.
Barea was in one of my classes at Northeastern. he was like 5'6. very short but genuinely nice guy
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wow that buzzer beater by butler! up 27
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Keep an eye on the Nets. They have a chance!
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Pacers routing the Bucks early in the 4th early in the 4th. Oladipo with a really nice step back to beat the buzzer at the end of the 3rd.
Are the Bucks as good as we thought earlier in the year?
It depends how good you thought the Bucks were. They’re a better version of last year’s team due to more experience, and they can beat anyone. But they are also inconsistent and put up some real duds from time to time. Their last several games have been:
Beat Wolves at home
Beat Thunder on road
Lost at Toronto in OT
Crushed Indiana at home
Blown out by Toronto at home
Beat Wizards on road
Now getting blown out by Indiana on road
That’s a tough stretch vs likely playoff teams. They’ll come out 4-3. Of course, the two games immediately preceding this were losses to Charlotte and Chicago. And they beat Cleveland right before those bad losses.
So yeah, Milwaukee could be a dangerous team in the playoffs. But they could also get bounced in the 1st round as a 4-seed, and are unlikely to earn any better seeding than that. Similar to Washington in that regard.
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Gerald Green is having another electric game. He's lost on defense like usual though.
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Cavs getting murdered by the Timberwolves. I guess father time is catching that team up.
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Wolves decimating the Cavs 71-47. Their defense is just beyond terrible and cannot contain the Wolves. It’ll be really interesting to see how they play against the Raptors in their upcoming game, who could present all kinds of troubles for this year’s Cleveland squad.
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Wolves decimating the Cavs 71-47. Their defense is just beyond terrible and cannot contain the Wolves. It’ll be really interesting to see how they play against the Raptors in their upcoming game, who could present all kinds of troubles for this year’s Cleveland squad.
The overreaction from the Portland game seems humorous. They will definitely be up and down for a while
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Wow, what a dirty, punk move by IT there. That was Andrew Bynum/JJ Barea level dirty.
He'll be suspended for a game or two in addition to that flagrant two call. What a d bag move. That was a straight throat shot to Wiggins.
This Cavs team lacks heart and character. They're getting completely punked out there losing by 40, and their body language is terrible.
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IT has spent less than 4 months with Wade and he's already doing cheap shots?
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Did IT ever do something like that in Boston?
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Cavs down 41 and IT got ejected
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Anthony Davis just rolled his ankle coming down from an alley-oop finish attempt. He was fouled on the play.
He was uninjured enough to shoot his two free throws, but then intentionally fouled Tolliver as the ball moved up the court so that he could limp off the court and go to the locker room to get checked out.
I'm not a hot take type of guy, but that rubbed me the wrong way.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
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That Cavs/Wolves game is just one loss for The Cavs but it should count as two! Wow, what a beat down.
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Cavs/Wolves 67-102 is a 35 point lead at the end of the third.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
Yeah, that was a pretty Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty move by IT. Pretty surprising for him imo.
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Overtime in Brooklyn. Derozan missed the three at the buzzer. Crabbe hopefully is okay.
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Anthony Davis just rolled his ankle coming down from an alley-oop finish attempt. He was fouled on the play.
He was uninjured enough to shoot his two free throws, but then intentionally fouled Tolliver as the ball moved up the court so that he could limp off the court and go to the locker room to get checked out.
I'm not a hot take type of guy, but that rubbed me the wrong way.
Why so?
It sounds like a smart enough play to me. Any other decision and his team potentially loses points.
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Lowry hurt and being carried off.
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Oh man, Lowry just took a HARD fall on his back from several feet in the air. He might've fractured his back; it was that hard. He tried walking and couldn't even do it on his own.
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That's a nasty fall by Lowry. Yeah, a bad back can really screw your whole body strength. Im suffering on the same problem and couldn't walk properly.
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Looking like a rough finish from the Cs perspective. BKN definitely didn't get the calls down the stretch - Dinwiddie got destroyed by Ibaka on that dunk attempt and Ibaka was all over Acy on the loose ball that led to the jump ball.
Anyway, hope Lowry is okay - that was a hard fall, but maybe it will just be a stinger.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
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No idea what IT was thinking—wasn't even a "basketball play." And also no idea what Lowry was thinking—he had no chance at blocking that shot, and was even on the wrong side of the rim.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, he’s no angel.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, he’s no angel.
How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?
IT generally isn’t a dirty player, he’s a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because there’s no apparent basketball reason for it.
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, he’s no angel.
How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?
IT generally isn’t a dirty player, he’s a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because there’s no apparent basketball reason for it.
It’s not much of a leap to go from mouthy to a flagrant. he’s playing for a contract ,probably frustrated at his injury , getting smoked in the game , still probably wants to be in Boston. Easy leap really
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Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Bud’s job safe?
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Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Bud’s job safe?
Definitely.
They are tanking and he is one of the top 10 coaches in the league
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Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Bud’s job safe?
Definitely.
They are tanking and he is one of the top 10 coaches in the league
Cool.
Kings up 89-82 on Spurs (missing Leonard, Green, Manu) with 6:53 to go.
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Talk about a choke, Kings :o
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Hawks just took their first lead. 88-84 now!
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That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT. Completely deserved to be ejected. Lets see what his fine is going to be. Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, he’s no angel.
How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?
IT generally isn’t a dirty player, he’s a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because there’s no apparent basketball reason for it.
I see a basketball reason for it, they were down 30 and he was frustrated to the point of a lesser self-control. If they were up 30 he'd be all smiles and high fives. I don't expect something similar from him, at least not this year.
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
It's going to be really tight!
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
It's going to be really tight!
cmon Heat! gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
It's going to be really tight!
cmon Heat! gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.
NICE! Great win by the Heat....
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Now we need an LA loss and it will be an excellent night!
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Now we need an LA loss and it will be an excellent night!
We need an Orlando win too to make more separation against the Lakers.
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
It's going to be really tight!
cmon Heat! gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.
NICE! Great win by the Heat....
whooohooo! didn't think they were going to pull it out.
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A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
It's going to be really tight!
cmon Heat! gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.
NICE! Great win by the Heat....
whooohooo! didn't think they were going to pull it out.
Me either. That was exciting.
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Lakers are off to a quick start and the Kings stink.
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Pretty good game between the Warriors and Clippers going on right now. 97-90 Clips at the end of 3. Lou Williams has 40. Durant with 32.
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Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.
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Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.
He’s not getting traded. Clippers would rather make the playoffs. They’re 2.5 games back of 5th despite all their injuries. People here like to bash Doc, but he’s done a good job holding that team together this season. They’re 8-3 over the last 11, and should have Blake back soon.
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Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.
He’s not getting traded. Clippers would rather make the playoffs. They’re 2.5 games back of 5th despite all their injuries. People here like to bash Doc, but he’s done a good job holding that team together this season. They’re 8-3 over the last 11, and should have Blake back soon.
Totally agree. I'm on the record in several threads saying the Clips will be fine. I did not expect this Tyrone Wallace kid to break out (didn't even know who he is tbh)
They would be a nasty first round out for the Rockets or the Spurinos..
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Too funny. I was going to post a Lou Williams offensive oddity thread last night (before his game). But I got lazy and didn't know if it would be interesting to anyone but me, so I didnt.
I don't know that many 31 year olds have had the type of career scoring year that he's having.
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Cavs not putting any resistance against the Raptors so far.
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This is the third game in a row that Cleveland is getting demolished by a good opponent, especially their defense. And Toronto doesn't even have Lowry or Ibaka playing!
IT is having a dreadful night, too - 0-8 with 1 TO and terrible defense.
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cavs getting rolled again, down 23 to toronto w/o lowry and ibaka...i kinda wanted toronto to lose this one..oh well i'll take it
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Matador defense by KLove out there. lol
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Cavs defense is just so bad.
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Outside of a Celtics win not much gives me happiness like seeing the Cavs get whooped.
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cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.
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Wow. This has to be embarrassing as a Cavs fan. They've legitimately given up and look like they simply don't care out there anymore.
Hell, even IT, who generally plays with a ton of swagger, looks timid and defeated out there.
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cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.
I was just coming in to say that exact same thing. They are putrid on def. Amazingly embarrassingly bad. It makes me really happy!
75-42 Toronto over Clev right now.
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Lebron going to demand for more help now and demand to trade away that BKN Pick :laugh:
Just too bad Cousins is likely NOT available, and even DeAndre Jordan might not be dealt (depending on how seriously the Clippers feel about wanting to make the playoffs this year).
Other than that, what big man can the Cavs get who could thread the needle even a little? Not many to be honest.
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No more slacking off for LeGM. He have to grind for every win now and then.
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cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.
I was just coming in to say that exact same thing. They are putrid on def. Amazingly embarrassingly bad. It makes me really happy!
75-42 Toronto over Clev right now.
that is amazingly bad. they look defeated and I don't see how they fix it. its been like this all season.
if cavs end up the #3 seed. It may take a herculean effort for Lebron to drag a team with this defense to the finals. I dont see how Lebron doesnt bounce.
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IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?
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No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
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IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?
pivotally bad ha ha
2-15 from the field.
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IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?
he has 4 points on 2-15 shooting so far and 0-6 from 3.
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No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
Call me crazy, but I think Boston could "steal" a home game from Golden State in a hypothetical Finals with good defense and hopefully a career night from someone.
But yeah, Warriors would have an extremely easy series win.
Frankly, this Cleveland team looks worse than last year ESPECIALLY ON DEFENSE. They may still get through the East (although with more bumps and bruises from their foes), but I could see Golden State sweeping them and winning every game by 20+.
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Theres no doubt Lebron is leaving the cavs this summer. He left Miami when they were in better shape than this(they just lost a finals series, but the writing was on the wall).
Team has no flexibility to add players, is old and plays no defense. Will be interesting to see if the Cavs look to move the brooklyn pick to appease lebron.
and people wonder why Kyrie Irving asked out of there!!
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No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
Call me crazy, but I think Boston could "steal" a home game from Golden State in a hypothetical Finals with good defense and hopefully a career night from someone.
But yeah, Warriors would have an extremely easy series win.
Frankly, this Cleveland team looks worse than last year ESPECIALLY ON DEFENSE. They may still get through the East (although with more bumps and bruises from their foes), but I could see Golden State sweeping them and winning every game by 20+.
Warriors are beatable once you impose physicality on them. Slow down their pace and they will look mortal. Curry doesn't always perform well on the biggest stage. And we also know Durant is a mental midget.
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No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
? I don't understand this mentality about GS. We've legitimately played them better than any other team for the last three years, and we literally beat them already at full health this season.
It'd be a closer series than people think, especially if we're fully healthy (minus Hayward). I actually think with Hayward we would beat them in a series.
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VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight. When did he get so good?
He is looking good.
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Man, Crowder is just a non-factor in Cleveland. Sad to see.
He's doing decent tonight (11 points on 4-7 shooting), but he's averaging 8 points and 3 rebounds a game in 26 minutes/game. Also Cavaliers fans are complaining that his defense just isn't as great. Though I can understand the last part since to be honest, his defense seemed to be a lot worse for the C's last year (took a hit from his defense here 2 years ago).
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Theres no doubt Lebron is leaving the cavs this summer. He left Miami when they were in better shape than this(they just lost a finals series, but the writing was on the wall).
Team has no flexibility to add players, is old and plays no defense. Will be interesting to see if the Cavs look to move the brooklyn pick to appease lebron.
and people wonder why Kyrie Irving asked out of there!!
LeBron to the Lakers is slowly becoming a reality...
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I would hold off on any judgments on the Cavs until IT gets his legs back. Teams tend to play a lot harder when shots are actually going in the basket. But man does Crowder look terrible.
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The Cavs with IT look really bad. They are down by 28 to the Raps. I guess they need to work Thomas in to their rotations. It would probably be best to bring him off the bench as a scorer but he probably would be really mad as he is looking for that Brinks truck this off season.
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I'll always have love for IT4 but unless something drastic happens it looks more and more like Brad's system is what made him look so great. He's always gonna be a decent shooter but IMO I don't see him as that #2 guy for the Cavs.
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Man, Crowder is just a non-factor in Cleveland. Sad to see.
He's doing decent tonight (11 points on 4-7 shooting), but he's averaging 8 points and 3 rebounds a game in 26 minutes/game. Also Cavaliers fans are complaining that his defense just isn't as great. Though I can understand the last part since to be honest, his defense seemed to be a lot worse for the C's last year (took a hit from his defense here 2 years ago).
His whole last year here, a lot of us thought his def regressed. When he first got traded here, his def intensity was awesome, he fit in really well with the underdog mentality. But last year I think his limitations on offense got exposed. When his def didn't stand out anymore, then why do you keep him if we got great young wings who need playing time + GH.
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I'll always have love for IT4 but unless something drastic happens it looks more and more like Brad's system is what made him look so great. He's always gonna be a decent shooter but IMO I don't see him as that #2 guy for the Cavs.
He's not in shape yet. I do question whether he'll be as effective as he was under Brad, but he need his legs to be on his game and doesn't have them yet. It's obvious when you watch him attack the basket.
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the butt kicking continues in Toronto.
Raps up 113-78 over LeCavs. I love it, I think..
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James has played 32 minutes in a game that the Raptors lead by 35. Seems like a waste.
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VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight. When did he get so good?
He is looking good.
Vanvleet, Poeltl, and Valunciunas look good because they're playing 5 traffic cones tonight.
Honestly the cavs have been putrid.
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No one on the floor for the Cavs right now wants to there.
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How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.
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How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.
I could see them at 4th, but I have no idea which other team will get to 3. Miami? Wash? Bucks? Heat have been winning lately, but I think Wash is better.
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VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight. When did he get so good?
He is looking good.
Vanvleet, Poeltl, and Valunciunas look good because they're playing 5 traffic cones tonight.
Honestly the cavs have been putrid.
The cavs d has been putrid I agree 100%. But I was impressed with Vanvleet, he was confident moving the ball, shot well, in general looked like he belonged out there.
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We just may be in store for a good Eastern conference playoffs this year.
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LeBron coasting again .
He ll play hard when it really counts .mmShame he ruins basketball. Glade when he departs
IT was not exactly dominating.....4 points in 24 minutes :o
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Lebron going to demand for more help now and demand to trade away that BKN Pick :laugh:
Just too bad Cousins is likely NOT available, and even DeAndre Jordan might not be dealt (depending on how seriously the Clippers feel about wanting to make the playoffs this year).
Other than that, what big man can the Cavs get who could thread the needle even a little? Not many to be honest.
wonder if Lebron would give IT and the pick back if Kyrie would come back...... ;D
dang IT all.....Bron needs help
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No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
? I don't understand this mentality about GS. We've legitimately played them better than any other team for the last three years, and we literally beat them already at full health this season.
It'd be a closer series than people think, especially if we're fully healthy (minus Hayward). I actually think with Hayward we would beat them in a series.
It is incredibly difficult to outscore the Warriors over the course of one game when Durant and Curry play 40+ minutes and one of them is almost always on the floor - forget about two or three games. Unless you have a top 5 NBA talent, which the Celtics do not.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
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How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.
I could see them at 4th, but I have no idea which other team will get to 3. Miami? Wash? Bucks? Heat have been winning lately, but I think Wash is better.
Washington should already be at 3. The Heat are playing well but I don't know if they can keep it up and so far the Bucks just don't look like a top half playoff team.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
I highly doubt it. I think that sends the message that management doesn't think they can win it all this year and are hedging their bets.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
LeBron manipulating the GM to make a "must-win" now move when they could improve their future with that BKN pick.
And then LeBron can bounce and go to LA or wherever in the summer. Haaaah.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
LeBron manipulating the GM to make a "must-win" now move when they could improve their future with that BKN pick.
And then LeBron can bounce and go to LA or wherever in the summer. Haaaah.
yup ...thats exactly waht Cavs FO thinking .....no way we are going to loose James and the Net pick , not worth risking using it on help for James and then getting blown out in the finals ......left standing empty handed with James flying to LA to sign
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title . Keeping the pick , is the smart move . Your probably loosing James anyway . James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys . Just waitng on GS to sweep them . The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title . Keeping the pick , is the smart move . Your probably loosing James anyway . James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys . Just waitng on GS to sweep them . The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.
I’m honestly not sure they make it out of the East anymore.
They may have to do it on the road for two of the series. Do you really like their odds of beating Toronto then Boston without HCA against either?
I know LeBron is LeBron and IT will shake the rust, but their defense is atrocious. Both of their stars need the ball. Their role players are washed up. Their coach doesn’t have them buying in.
If Celtics get GH back before April rolls around, I think they should (and would) be favored.
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Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title . Keeping the pick , is the smart move . Your probably loosing James anyway . James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys . Just waitng on GS to sweep them . The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.
I’m honestly not sure they make it out of the East anymore.
They may have to do it on the road for two of the series. Do you really like their odds of beating Toronto then Boston without HCA against either?
I know LeBron is LeBron and IT will shake the rust, but their defense is atrocious. Both of their stars need the ball. Their role players are washed up. Their coach doesn’t have them buying in.
If Celtics get GH back before April rolls around, I think they should (and would) be favored.
Objectively (if that's possible), I favor the C's even w/o GH.
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So after getting blown out their last two games, the Cavaliers are about to blow a big lead today to the Indiana Pacers ;D
And their next game is against the Warriors. Could get ugly if they can't figure it out now.
UPDATE: Comeback complete! Pacers win 97-95.
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Cavs blew a 22 point lead ;D
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Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.
But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
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Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.
But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
Even cowherd is struggling to spin this cavs team in a positive light. His lebron worship will never wane.
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Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.
But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole ”cavs only care about playoff” theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesn’t exist also. It’ll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak and they’ll be in that discussion
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Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.
But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole ”cavs only care about playoff” theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesn’t exist also. It’ll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak and they’ll be in that discussion
We kinda have to give James the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't dominated the East for most of the decade for no reason, and IT still isn't back 100%. As much as I'd love to say "this is for real", he's stormed through the East too many times for me to think he and his team won't pick it up once the playoffs come round.
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Spencer freaking Dinwiddie!!
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You have to feel bad for Kevin Love though. I agree his defense hasn't been great either, BUT the guy is practically a walking double-double and has been fairly consistent in his entire time in Cleveland. Even today, the guy had 21 points on 8-14 shooting, and 9 rebounds. And with Isaiah out, Love played a HUGE part in that winning stretch the Cavaliers had to keep them Top-3 in the East at the moment.
BUT he's always the scapegoat it seems when they fail and is ALWAYS in trade talks for other star players (especially this past summer). Kind of sad.
Now obviously I hate when he kills us in games and hope he does BAD when he plays us, but man is Kevin Love underappreciated over in Cleveland.
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This is the third game I've seen Acy dribble and turn it over at the worst time.
Edit: Brooklyn Wins!!
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You have to feel bad for Kevin Love though. I agree his defense hasn't been great either, BUT the guy is practically a walking double-double and has been fairly consistent in his entire time in Cleveland. Even today, the guy had 21 points on 8-14 shooting, and 9 rebounds. And with Isaiah out, Love played a HUGE part in that winning stretch the Cavaliers had to keep them Top-3 in the East at the moment.
BUT he's always the scapegoat it seems when they fail and is ALWAYS in trade talks for other star players (especially this past summer). Kind of sad.
Now obviously I hate when he kills us in games and hope he does BAD when he plays us, but man is Kevin Love underappreciated over in Cleveland.
Pretty much similar situation to Chris Bosh with Miami.
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Why is Middleton guarding KD when Giannis is on the court?
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Holy Crap do I despise watching the Rockets.
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Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.
But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole ”cavs only care about playoff” theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesn’t exist also. It’ll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak and they’ll be in that discussion
We kinda have to give James the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't dominated the East for most of the decade for no reason, and IT still isn't back 100%. As much as I'd love to say "this is for real", he's stormed through the East too many times for me to think he and his team won't pick it up once the playoffs come round.
I'm not writing them off until they're eliminated from the playoffs. I especially don't want to see them drop so low that Boston ends up facing them in the first or second round.
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Blah blah blah! That' when kyrie was with them now they not Go Celtics!!!!
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For what ever struggles the Cavs are having, I'm still not thrilled about facing LeBron in the playoffs. He always finds that next gear.
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Rockets to sign Vipers guard R.J. Hunter to a two-way contract tomorrow, per source.
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/952286114076741632
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Rockets to sign Vipers guard R.J. Hunter to a two-way contract tomorrow, per source.
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/952286114076741632
They are loading up on ex Celtics. Someone should tell them neither of those two ever knew much about Steven's playbook to begin with.
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Raptors on verge of a comeback after being down 27.
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iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .
return ....
of the mighty IT.
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iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .
return ....
of the mighty IT.
He is playing 20 minutes a game and shooting 35% so probably not quite there yet...
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.
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it's gonna work out but WHY didn't philly pull it out and run the clock/get fouled the last two steals...so dumb
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.
Looks like they got within 1 and ran out of guess... nice win for philly.
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
I'm not at all worried about them. We match up really well with them.
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.
Looks like they got within 1 and ran out of guess... nice win for philly.
Good week so far for Philly, from the C's perspective. Lose to Boston, then beat one of their closest EC competitors. Thanks! ;D
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
We won't be so fortunate that the Knicks or Hornets will jump into the 8th seed, so there's no really easy outcome here. I guess we would like to meet the Pacers, but all other teams are dangerous.
We have had a lot of trouble with the Pistons (Harris and Drummond!) the past seasons. The Bucks with a healthy Parker and Antetokounmpo on the court almost full time could give us a very hard time. The Heat are deep and doing pretty well, although we would be clear favorites against them.
Obviously don't want to see the Cavaliers or Wizards drop to face in the first round!
So apart from the Pacers or the Heat, I think there's not a better match up out there for us than the 76ers.
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball. They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball. They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.
Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
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Heat is the team i'm most worried about. I want them to match up against Cavs or the Raptors. They are just a bad matchup for anyone.
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iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .
return ....
of the mighty IT.
He is playing 20 minutes a game and shooting 35% so probably not quite there yet...
LOl....thanks .....I got little carried away with my prediction ...... ;D
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Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS. one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive, but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record . So many angles to this game .
Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.
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Im torn who he want to win Cavs vs GS. one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive, but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record .
Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.
I want GS to totally blow out the Cavs and send a message that the Cavs don't have what it takes anymore. Add fuel to the turmoil in Cleveland and increase the chance that the front office makes a bad trade.
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Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS. one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive, but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record . So many angles to this game .
Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.
Is everyone playing tonight for this matchup?
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball. They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.
Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
I predicted that the Sixers would make the playoffs if they were close to .500 at the hallway point and Embiid plays 60+ games. I'll stick with that. Their 2nd half schedule is much easier. After Thursday's game, they will have played all their games against us, Toronto, GSW and Houston. In case of a tie, the Sixers are 3-0 against the Pistons with 1 game left and 1-0 against the Pacers with 2 games left.
It will be interesting to see how aggressive the Sixers are trying to make the playoffs. Does Embiid play any B2Bs? Do they make a playoff focused deadline trade?
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Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS. one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive, but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record . So many angles to this game .
Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.
Is everyone playing tonight for this matchup?
Maybe not Rose . I think GS is healthy . It should be a barn burner. Lebron has been spanked in this game several times 6 of 7 osmething like that . He may open the special can tonight to prove a point ......no matter where he lands next season .....he can still get the job done ....
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I kind of want Golden State to KILL Cleveland.
I understand the implications with W-L record between Golden State and Boston, but at the same time, if the Cavaliers suffer another humiliating loss, this time at the hands of Golden State while at home (Quicken Loans Arena), then I could imagine things start to get real ugly in Cleveland honestly.
They are just 2 games away from being a 5 seed in the standings, and I could see LBJ getting restless and demanding they fire Lue, and/or trade the Nets Pick for some sort of help. Problem is, Cousins is likely NOT getting dealt, and DeAndre Jordan might not be either, in which case, their options are limited to mainly buyout options which probably isn't threading the needle for them in a series vs. Golden State.
It's strange really, I think Golden State would also kill us (Boston) in a Final series, BUT we do seem to match up well against them to be honest, even better than Cleveland. Of course, Cleveland > Boston w/King James, but still...
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Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
A lot of that is Embiid IMO.
He doesn't play back to backs, he needs games off, and he doesn't train. He has no conditioning or staying power. Watch him next time at a 3rd quarter time-out. He is doubled over sucking in the big ones.
That team goes as far as Embiid carries them, and by the second half of basketball games, he is usually pretty tired. They can get leads and build leads in the first half of games, but then when he fades or needs time off the court in the second half, the team seriously fades with him. The fact that they have no guys that can create their own shot outside of Embiid compounds their woes down the stretch.
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Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball. They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.
Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
I predicted that the Sixers would make the playoffs if they were close to .500 at the hallway point and Embiid plays 60+ games. I'll stick with that. Their 2nd half schedule is much easier. After Thursday's game, they will have played all their games against us, Toronto, GSW and Houston. In case of a tie, the Sixers are 3-0 against the Pistons with 1 game left and 1-0 against the Pacers with 2 games left.
It will be interesting to see how aggressive the Sixers are trying to make the playoffs. Does Embiid play any B2Bs? Do they make a playoff focused deadline trade?
Its certainly possible, but you have always been one of the most optimistic people regarding the 76ers. On the positive side of the ledger simmons has been as good as could be hoped for and Emiid has been mostly healthy. On the flip side Fultz is starting to look like one of the weirdest stories in the history of the NBA. I do think they could trade their own first round pick for Williams, but the Clippers are talking about extending him. I am not sure what kinds of shooters are out there that would really help them.
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I kind of want Golden State to KILL Cleveland.
I understand the implications with W-L record between Golden State and Boston, but at the same time, if the Cavaliers suffer another humiliating loss, this time at the hands of Golden State while at home (Quicken Loans Arena), then I could imagine things start to get real ugly in Cleveland honestly.
They are just 2 games away from being a 5 seed in the standings, and I could see LBJ getting restless and demanding they fire Lue, and/or trade the Nets Pick for some sort of help. Problem is, Cousins is likely NOT getting dealt, and DeAndre Jordan might not be either, in which case, their options are limited to mainly buyout options which probably isn't threading the needle for them in a series vs. Golden State.
It's strange really, I think Golden State would also kill us (Boston) in a Final series, BUT we do seem to match up well against them to be honest, even better than Cleveland. Of course, Cleveland > Boston w/King James, but still...
I agree with all of this. We also would give Golden State a more competitive series because it is not a coaching mismatch like Kerr running circles around Lue. The Cavs needed to fire Lue a week ago.
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IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
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IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.
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So I just found out that before the game, Charles Barkley predicted "Cleveland would not make the NBA Finals".
But knowing his Celtics hate, he probably thinks either Toronto, Miami or Washington is making the Finals instead of Cleveland... ::)
(I mean, you could make the case for Toronto, but Charles Barkley is one who thinks the Wizards and Raptors are WAY better than the Celtics... which as Stephen A. Smith would say, is blasphemous).
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Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?
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Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?
Defense is bad as usual but the offense is good enough so far not to get blown out by the Warriors.
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Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?
Excuses, make trade calls, fire the coach, etc. ;D
But this game, they started off HOT, with like 8-10 shooting, and had an 18-11 lead.
NOW? Warriors on an 8-0 run with Cleveland playing HORRIBLE defense. :P
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Cavs literally have 0 rim protection. Love sucks defensively and IT have 0 resistance in the post.
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Wow Klay already has 13 points so far.
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For as bad as the Cavs D has been, it hasn't killed them against Gstate so far. Cavs up by 7 in the 1st.
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oh man Lebron just ran over Curry, foul on Curry. such bad calls..
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Kevin Durant just put the best player in the league on a poster! :o
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IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.
It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
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Cavs just played about as good as they can possibly play, yet they're only up two, even with James dominating with 16 points on 6-8 shooting.
I just don't see how this Cleveland team can beat Golden State, let alone four out of seven times. You simply can't "out-offense" them, which would be the Cavs whole gameplan. Beating Golden State takes an elite defensive team that can exploit their propensity to turn the ball over and convert that into easy buckets. The Cavs aren't that team, and I'm guessing as soon as Lebron sits you'll see a big run.
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Cavs just played about as good as they can possibly play, yet they're only up two, even with James dominating with 16 points on 6-8 shooting.
I just don't see how this Cleveland team can beat Golden State, let alone four out of seven times. You simply can't "out-offense" them, which would be the Cavs whole gameplan. Beating Golden State takes an elite defensive team that can exploit their propensity to turn the ball over and convert that into easy buckets. The Cavs aren't that team, and I'm guessing as soon as Lebron sits you'll see a big run.
But Lebron needs more help! ;D
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Seems that Cavs really moves the ball better without Lebron.
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IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.
It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
Yeah, it's a very sizable regression. IT is awful on defence
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IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.
It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
Yeah, it's a very sizable regression. IT is awful on defence
I mean, I don't disagree that Isaiah's defense is awful, but if we compare it to Kyrie's defense last year, it wasn't that worse I believe.
I forget who, but I think someone on here a few months ago posted something that showed Isaiah like last in the league at a certain defensive metric, and Kyrie very close to Isaiah (also real bad).
But yeah, the size difference is noticeable and a factor, I agree with that.
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Isaiah struggling tonight. 2/8 shooting.
Lebron keeping them in this with 18 points already, but Cavaliers only up 2 right now.
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Cavs play a lot of me ball. IT selfish as usual and James...well is James
So glad IT was shipped out.
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IT turned up and raking their ass! Haha!
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IT turned up and raking their ass! Haha!
Still plays absolutely no defense
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Isaiah struggling tonight. 2/8 shooting.
Lebron keeping them in this with 18 points already, but Cavaliers only up 2 right now.
And on cue, Isaiah plays better, hits a shot, connects with James on an alley-oop, and Cavaliers increase the lead to 6 :P
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F the Cavs. Old.
Wade is a dirty player
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Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.
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Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.
Cavs better not get Toronto in the eastern conf semi's...Cavs play no defense
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GS is a lazy basketball team.
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Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.
Cavs better not get Toronto in the eastern conf semi's...Cavs play no defense
Even if CLE matches up with Miami in the 1st round, it won't be easy for them.
But yeah, there's a good chance they play TOR or WAS in the EC Semi's (Wizards tend to play Cavaliers tough as well).
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I thunking GS gets a " L " tonight
wade , green , everybody trying really hard.
They can still play , if they get rest
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I still don't believe Thomas is an answer in Cleveland. GS beats the Cavs in 5 in a series. Cavs old, long travel, oft injured.
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Going to be great to watch the Cavs being dismantled in the offseason...
Wade---Old
James is not staying
IT--nobody is paying that guy big money
Crowder--he is a role player
Green, Rose, Calderon, Korver are all old and not a long term answer
Thompson is overpaid and is already being shopped
Love is a one trick pony
Cavs are cap strapped and have no youth on that roster. Kyrie knew it and he knew James wasn't staying and didn't want to be stuck on a crap team
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IT still doesn't look like he's fully recovered. He's a step slow from what he was in previous years, which substantially affects his game. It'll be interesting to see if he ever gets that elite speed back.
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IT still doesn't look like he's fully recovered. He's a step slow from what he was in previous years, which substantially affects his game. It'll be interesting to see if he ever gets that elite speed back.
Yeah he looks stiff and doesn't run right...more like he shuffles. I honestly believe the hip is going to get worse at some point this season and he will have to have surgery
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Durant is just too chumy with opposing players in game for my liking
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GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.
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GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.
And yet GS is still within 1 LOL.
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GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.
Warriors are so overrated defensively.
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This game may finish with both teams scoring 120+ LOL.
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GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half
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GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half
They won't be toying anytime soon when they face the Celtics once again. Team will make sure they won't have any fun even if they win.
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GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half
Yes I agree. This is no longer a fun matchup. Cleveland can steal a game at home but they are not winning a series
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Durant is just too chumy with opposing players in game for my liking
After going to the Warriors, it seems pretty clear he isn't the most competitive guy around.
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I'm waiting for The Warriors to step on the gas and just blow this out.
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
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I don't understand Cleveland not playing Thompson more. He at least gives them some defensive presence, and his rebounding is still such a valuable tool for them. They're a bad defensive team even with Thompson playing, but they're a whole other level of bad with Love at the 5, at least to the eye test.
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
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Is Crowder hurt or something? Why isn't he playing?
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.
Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.
Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.
The Cavs don't have any defenders so they have to try and out score you.
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.
Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.
The Cavs don't have any defenders so they have to try and out score you.
And they can't because they are so old and shoot jumpers late in games with tired legs. Crowder never plays in crunch time.
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
The Cavs didn't want to give it to him, but Lebron had them over a barrel. At least they saved $12M on the deal (he ended up with a 5yr/$82M deal rather than the $94M max he was demanding).
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IT been playing close 30 minutes
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Not gonna lie. If the cavs don't come back here gonna be fairly humorous hearing our resident celtics cavs fans tell us why the cavs will dominate the east so easily
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KD s hair thin on back ......Lebron laughing ;D
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Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
The Cavs didn't want to give it to him, but Lebron had them over a barrel. At least they saved $12M on the deal (he ended up with a 5yr/$82M deal rather than the $94M max he was demanding).
That is still a massive overpay for a role player.
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35 minutes for IT
they wanting to win.
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35 minutes is alot
he is offically back. IMO
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IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.
Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed
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Swaggy P,....fo Trey
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Game over
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Swaggy P,....fo Trey
In dirty D Wade's face
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IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.
Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed
If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.
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King of 4 th scores
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Swaggy P,....fo Trey
In dirty D Wade's face
I thought the D stood for Dirty...
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IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.
Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed
If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.
Not going to happen with LBJ on the floor in the 4th. James leads all players in scoring in the 4th...IT is going to have to be the lil sidekick
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Swaggy P,....fo Trey
In dirty D Wade's face
I thought the D stood for Dirty...
It stands for something else much more vile...
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IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.
Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed
If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.
thats basically the facts . Klay was using him as front sight to line up shots .....IT has no chance wot 6 3" and up,guys .
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Sir Charles
bron doo looking sooooooo thin
come on home bro
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Bron Bron getting a crazy call there.
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Warriors didn't even play that well tonight and still running the Cavs out of the gym
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
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To quote the great Paul Pierce " It's like a puppy and a pitbull"...
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GS did not look stressed to beat Cavs.
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I don't see a logical way to defend this team when they run this many pick and rolls.
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
They will do nothing...
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
Does it matter? Cavs are going to be worn out by they time they get to Boston...
Cavs don't have enough scoring to beat elite teams
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
let him walk
no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .
Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment . Really up to Have Ball Le travel
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Swaggy P,....fo Trey
In dirty D Wade's face
I thought the D stood for Dirty...
Dirtbag
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4 losses in a row. Cavs still look terrible. Coach lue is bad but so are many players on the roster like Thompson
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
let him walk
no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .
Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment . Really up to Have Ball Le travel
LeBron is holding this team hostage again. I can't think of another great NBA player that would be constantly hold his own teams feet to the fire. He's punching the whole franchise just like he did to The Cavs before and did to Miami.
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Lakers pick > Nets pick. Boston upgrade with Kyrie and still might have a better pick
Nets pick getting traded would be dumb for the Cavs..James is not going to play his cards until the end to avoid the backlash...He is not coming back to Cleveland...a team that is old, has no money and has been proven not good enough to win a title as constructed
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Wonder if CBS had been handed Clippers team .Doc was gifted .....back then ......with all that talent .....would he have won a title.
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Lakers pick > Nets pick. Boston upgrade with Kyrie and still might have a better pick
Nets pick getting traded would be dumb for the Cavs..James is not going to play his cards until the end to avoid the backlash...He is not coming back to Cleveland...a team that is old, has no money and has been proven not good enough to win a title as constructed
LeBron built this team and now he'll bail.
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
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Wonder if CBS had been handed Clippers team .Doc was gifted .....back then ......with all that talent .....would he have won a title.
Yes, at least one.
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The Cavs team reminds me of the one Boston ran out of town in Lebron's last series with them before going to Miami in 2010.
LBJ handpicked Marion, Amare and company and looked old and dead by that EC semifinal. LBJ dictated who he wanted and all year we heard they are just pacing themselves...yet in the end they were just old
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
Starting to get some separation.
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Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
let him walk
no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .
Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment . Really up to Have Ball Le travel
LeBron is holding this team hostage again. I can't think of another great NBA player that would be constantly hold his own teams feet to the fire. He's punching the whole franchise just like he did to The Cavs before and did to Miami.
They don't trust him to,stay.......I,would not on a handshake and promise. I want signed contract before muse the nets pick.
Kyrie knowsmhe is most likey leaving and knew Cavs were not equipped win even if he stayed and went down with the ship
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
Starting to get some separation.
Having Cleveland have to go through Toronto before Boston is huge for the Cs...Plus Cleveland is a terrible road team.
I could see the Raptors winning that series
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!
Edit: Okay, I basically said what everybody else said so TPs to you guys!
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!
The way The Cavs are playing they will be Lucky to get by The Pacers in the 1st round.
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Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!
Edit: Okay, I basically said what everybody else said so TPs to you guys!
I am praying Miami stays in the 4 hole and can win the first series. I think Boston would beat them in 4 or 5 games.
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We've just gotta hope the Heat or Wizards don't catch the Cavs and drop them to 4.
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I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.
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I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.
Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.
A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible
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I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.
Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.
A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible
They were down around 2-4 going into the 4th IIRC. I think the game was won when they started attacking IT on D. I don't know why they weren't doing it all game. When they did the Cavs D folded. What also got them was LBJ had to defend, that took it out of him. Another thing GSW did that I didn't see as much in the first half (don't remember anyway), they switched more on D. The change to Looney helped a lot also.
Kerr made some excellent second half decisions. That's good coaching, Cavs better hope Lue has that in him this season. COME ON EAST non-Cavs!!!
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I don't think these games matter much. Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast. And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that. Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.
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I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.
Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.
A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible
The no defense line up.
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I don't think these games matter much. Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast. And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that. Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.
I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself. TP, tar.
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I don't think these games matter much. Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast. And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that. Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.
I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself. TP, tar.
I think you both are really on to something here! TP @tarheels and @tarheels!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I don't think these games matter much. Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast. And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that. Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.
I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself. TP, tar.
Lol what
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To quote the great Paul Pierce " It's like a puppy and a pitbull"...
This really was how the game was. Cavs are at a lower level with a bunch of other teams (and below healthy Houston )
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Seems like I missed an interesting day of basketball.
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Cleveland remind me of that Miami Heat team after they won the title in 2006. The team that completely capitulated in the playoffs. Got hammered by a young Bulls team. All it took was a young, aggressive and athletic team. The Heat just couldn't cope. Too old, too slow.
Cleveland = just too many old players. Not enough speed or athleticism. Too many defensive liabilities. Terrible team D.
This isn't something they can turn on or off. This is who they are. And they will get bounced before the Finals because of it. Some younger athletic team will take them out.
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So after playing an easy Magic team this Thursday, the next two games for the Cavaliers are vs. OKC, then @San Antonio. Might go 1-2 the next three games and cause even more tension in CLE.
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Disclaimer: The slow-motion is kinda gruesome for the queasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuZbP78JqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuZbP78JqY)
Looked painful. He's improved a lot this year and is fun to watch. Still rooting for the local kid to succeed (and not prove half of us wrong).
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IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight
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IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight
Not his best shooting night, but he had a solid all-around game.
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IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight
You mean a 1 point win for Cleveland in which IT hit the game winning free throws.
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IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight
You mean a 1 point win for Cleveland in which IT hit the game winning free throws.
Wow, I completely missed that. TP. Good for him!
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Cavs really looks bad despite the win.
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Cavaliers play @OKC this afternoon on ABC, then they play the Spurs on Tuesday night.
They are coming off a really, really close win vs. Orlando, and if they drop these next two games to elite Western foes, they may start to get desperate on the trade market, and Lebron could get restless too.
Of course, we'll have to see how Isaiah does these next two games. Their Finals aspirations does also hinge on him being a consistent 23-25 PPG scoring option.
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Lets go okc
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Lets go okc
I'm pretty interested in this game. Cleveland is a favorite at home, but okc could dominate inside. How will IT try to stop Westbrook?
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Why Lue continues to have Love at the 5 instead of starting TT is beyond me. The offensive gains do not make up for what it does to their D and lesser rebounding without TT.
And from what I've seen Lue is having IT guard Westbrook instead of Roberson, who is potentially the worst offensive guard in the league. I don't think Roberson is really much of a post-up threat either.
Someone want to explain this to me? How much of the Cavs' terrible defense is on Lue?
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Two things I love right now....IT doing ok and the Cavs getting crushed in the first quarter at home
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Westbrook has been playing nice, getting everybody involved.
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Why Lue continues to have Love at the 5 instead of starting TT is beyond me. The offensive gains do not make up for what it does to their D and lesser rebounding without TT.
And from what I've seen Lue is having IT guard Westbrook instead of Roberson, who is potentially the worst offensive guard in the league. I don't think Roberson is really much of a post-up threat either.
Someone want to explain this to me? How much of the Cavs' terrible defense is on Lue?
Love at 5 worked a few game and Lue is convinced it will work every game now .
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33 points for OKC with over 4 minutes left in the first. Cleveland's D is awful.
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When OKC is locked in, they're fun to watch.
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Starting to worry more about Toronto than Cleveland in the east
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33 points for OKC with over 4 minutes left in the first. Cleveland's D is awful.
They are old and a team full of poor defenders to begin with
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It's like the rim is Russell's mortal enemy. I love it.
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Having IT defensively, players like Westbrook are impossible to guard. There's just no stopping him from getting where he wants to go. Remember how much trouble we had stopping Westbrook the last few years with IT here?
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This is how bad it is for the Cavs. James is running with the second team
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43 points in ine quarter
Cavs cannot defend and are too old to just try to outscore anyone
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Was that d Wade who got the ball stripped from and Westbrook scored from the stolen ball? Man the Cavs look bad
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I have never seen a team with that many great players who a coach [dang] near refuses to do early subs and make sure there is always one on the floor. If your bench is as bad as as OKC's, why keep subbing in an entire bench unit at any point? I swear that's garbage coaching and yet he keeps doing it! 3 players as good as that? one should always be feasting on bench units!!! Why Billy why? Your bench scores 11 a game or something outlandish like that, one of PG/Melo could get that alone in 5 minutes with the bench!!
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Derrick Rose getting minutes just shows how desperate the Cavs are.
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Watching IT play these days is just like watching a car crash. Guy is down right slow and gets worked by anyone he guards
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Anyone that thinks the cavs will just roll through the east needs to watch the first half of this game. Lie should be fired tomorrow
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
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I have never seen a team with that many great players who a coach [dang] near refuses to do early subs and make sure there is always one on the floor. If your bench is as bad as as OKC's, why keep subbing in an entire bench unit at any point? I swear that's garbage coaching and yet he keeps doing it! 3 players as good as that? one should always be feasting on bench units!!! Why Billy why? Your bench scores 11 a game or something outlandish like that, one of PG/Melo could get that alone in 5 minutes with the bench!!
I was wondering about this, too. I wonder if this is a college coach thing, because Brad seems to struggle with this at times, too.
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
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Toronto is the biggest threat in the East.
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.
Donovan is a better college coach. The way he handles his bench is comical
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76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.
I just don't get coaches that do that. Stevens does it and Doc always did it. Just makes no sense when your bench can't score.
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Here comes pouting Lebron
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Here comes pouting Lebron
I love pouting LeBron, he's my favorite LeBron....
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
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I turned it off midway through the 2nd because I had some errands to take care of, just checked the box score and Russ is knocking on a triple double with 18 assists?
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Jeff Green has been the Cavaliers' third best player.
That's how disappointing the Cavs have been this season.
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My favorite stat for Cavs game is Lebron and his -33 rating 😁How soon before he starts demanding moves to bring in better players
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OKC with 4 players with 23 points or more. Lebron by far with the worst +/- on his team with a -33. Don't see those two stats very often.
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Will OKC get to 150?
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Okc going for 155
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Okc going for 155
They could make it. I almost posted 150 after the 3rd but I figured the scoring would slow down but NO!
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it
Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.
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Yeah, that looks like a Lebron James who is already looking towards next year.
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Am I petty for being happy that Lebron won't get his 30,000th point at home?
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it
Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.
He is not getting that Brinks truck
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Cavs will be fine, I'm not going to get happy yet! Seen this movie before. I want to know why people keep assuming people want the BKN pick with as much value as people think it has? Remember that DA said he tried to trade the BKN picks a few times before and no teams would bite. Maybe people want young players already in the league for their good players, cavs have none of those. I'm sure they will be able to get something for it but it won't be a really good established player. Maybe DJ, he is really good and established but in this league, it's not really that great of a get, especially when looking up at GSW.
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Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.
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Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.
Warriors have like 10 knock down shooters , all are 6- 12 inches taller than IT . So there is nobody for him to stop. Warrior vs Cavs is 5 on 4 on offense . IT scor s 30 , he gives up 12 or 14 points in easy jumpers to guys like Curry , Iggy , KT and KD all game . IT is great on awful shooting team like when he came on Celtics . Cavs don't need his offense .....they need Bradleys and Smarts to play defense on some people.
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IT’s offense looking good. Looks like last year’s IT today.
Unfortunately for the Cavs, that’s not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.
I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldn’t do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it
Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.
He is not getting that Brinks truck
Let's not underestimate the prevalence of foolish GMs; seems like, no matter how many bad contracts are regularly handed out, there are always a couple of GMs who don't learn (from their mistakes or the mistakes of others), and instead give in to whatever pressure there is (real or not) to win now—"Hey, look! I just signed a guy who can score 20+ a game! I must be doing my job well!"
Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.
Today's game seems like a new low. The Thunder shot 58% (!)—and almost 47% on threes—and would've easily surpassed 150 points if they'd shot their free throws well.
Yeah, I'm not writing off the LeBrons yet, but this is the worst any LeBron team has looked during the regular season.
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LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
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LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
Yeah, he might come to Boston after we’ve finished our sweep of the Warriors.
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LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
Any sane organization should not give him power over their team. Lebron is aging and he should drop his ego before its too late. Learn to play within a system that doesn't revolve around him if he wants to expand his legacy.
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Hornets blew a 10 pt lead with 3 minutes left in game...
Game tied with 0.2 seconds left in game, and Dwight fouls olynyk
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LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
Yeah, he might come to Boston after we’ve finished our sweep of the Warriors.
haha I was thinking the same
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Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.
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LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
We'll tell Lebron to sign with the MLE, and also offer him the bonus services of being coached by Brad Stevens (so total value of the signing is a max contract for LBJ) :laugh:
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Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.
Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.
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Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.
Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.
Just heated up. Slugfest.
We would really need Hayward in a game like this...
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You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3? Good lord I can't stand either of them.
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Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.
Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.
Just heated up. Slugfest.
We would really need Hayward in a game like this...
Im fairly confident our defense and Kyrie will give both teams enough problems as they already did.
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You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3? Good lord I can't stand either of them.
Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...
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You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3? Good lord I can't stand either of them.
Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...
Both have unlikable personalities. Immature, crybabies and entitled. Hard to root for these type of players.
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Houston now 2-0 vs GS this season.
I still don’t buy them beating GS in the playoffs, though. Between their D and three happy gameplan, I just can’t see it.
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You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3? Good lord I can't stand either of them.
Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...
Both have unlikable personalities. Immature, crybabies and entitled. Hard to root for these type of players.
I don't care for either, but some of the others strike me as even bigger prima donnas. Par for the course, I guess.
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You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3? Good lord I can't stand either of them.
Definitely CP3.
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Lou Williams is either on a wildly effective cocktail of PEDs, or has mastered the art of self-care. What the heck has gotten into this guy? First player since Jordan to record 30 points and 10 steals.
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Some laughable officiating going on in this Dallas/Portland game.
I have to disagree with Van Gundy and Jackson. While players do complain way too often, the officiating is incredibly inconsistent from game to game (and even in individual games themselves), and there are tons of missed and bad calls each and every game.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
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DMC is tough. Wish he'd start winning eventually.
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DMC is tough. Wish he'd start winning eventually.
First 40-20-10 triple double since the 1960s. What an animal.
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The wizards and cavs are busy fighting themselves. We might be able to cruise to the finals
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
You're dang right it is
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
You're dang right it is
It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
You're dang right it is
It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.
Kawhi has a player option for 2019-2020.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
You're dang right it is
It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.
I’d do Tatum & Brown for Kawhi.
And the LAL/SAC pick.
I love Tatum. I am optimistic the pick conveys this year and that would be a great prospect. Brown she’s flashes of being a star.
But Kawhi is a top-3 player when healthy. A foursome of Irving/Hayward/Leonard/Horford may actually be better than GSW’s.... with guys like Baynes, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Theis, MLE, etc. to round out the roster. I honestly think they could run off a few championships.
That said, it’ll never happen.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained
Time to start Kawhi trade proposals? :)
You're dang right it is
It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.
I’d do Tatum & Brown for Kawhi.
And the LAL/SAC pick.
I love Tatum. I am optimistic the pick conveys this year and that would be a great prospect. Brown she’s flashes of being a star.
But Kawhi is a top-3 player when healthy. A foursome of Irving/Hayward/Leonard/Horford may actually be better than GSW’s.... with guys like Baynes, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Theis, MLE, etc. to round out the roster. I honestly think they could run off a few championships.
That said, it’ll never happen.
That would make them think if a request was handed in, but like you said it's never going to happen.
If it was to happen though I actually wouldn't be too ecstatic as that whole team would be free agents and trades, I have a soft spot for drafted franchise guys. Even the Patriots with all their roster changes have Brady, Gronk, Edelman, McCourty and Gostkowski as their drafted franchise guys and it'd be quite sad if Celtics lost that.
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And then Pop would turn both Tatum and Brown in Leonard-level players.
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And then Pop would turn both Tatum and Brown in Leonard-level players.
Highly doubtful as Kawhi mostly made Kawhi. His measurements of a 7'3 wingspan and the ability to palm a basketball with his enormous hands are unteachable, Leonard's work ethic is second to none. When he was drafted, Kawhi bought a house for him and his mother to live in and his mother took care of cooking cleaning ect. just so Leonard could completely concentrate on basketball, there is a reason he doesn't have social media, doesn't do interviews or very few ads because he only cares about improving as a player. The biggest improvement that Pop made with him would have to be his shooting technique, free throws and perfecting his offensive repertoire.
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LOL Pop called a timeout just 14 seconds into the game after Crowder hit a 3. :laugh:
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I truly enjoy watching the Spurs play. They are so well coached and their scouting department does an amazing job of finding good players.
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Aldridge really looks like a different player this year. No doubt an all-star.
Averaging 22/9 consistently all season, and already has 12 points so far.
When Kawhi went down last year in the WCF, they really needed this kind of Aldridge instead of the timid and "out of place" one they got last May.
If Aldridge keeps it up and Kawhi comes back healthy late in the season, then the Spurs are just as big threats to the Warriors and Rockets.
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This Cavs D is laughable giving up this many points to this depleted Spurs team.
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YIKES. Spurs go on a 18-5 run to end the half.
Cavaliers just gave up 63 points to a Spurs team without Kawhi, Pau, Manu and Rudy Gay. :o
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
Love should seriously demand a trade.
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
Love should seriously demand a trade.
He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point. I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
lol wow
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Do we think Lebron is ever going to just accept the fact that he's balding and just shave his head?
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Looks like Cavaliers about to lose by double digits again.
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We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and we’ve got to be considered the favorites at this point.
And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.
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We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and we’ve got to be considered the favorites at this point.
And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.
If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).
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We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and we’ve got to be considered the favorites at this point.
And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.
If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).
If you’re trading “pieces” for Evans, you’ll have created the roster spot and don’t need to cut Nader. (I know, you probably just want to get rid of him).
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Murray!
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We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and we’ve got to be considered the favorites at this point.
And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.
If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).
If you’re trading “pieces” for Evans, you’ll have created the roster spot and don’t need to cut Nader. (I know, you probably just want to get rid of him).
No by pieces I meant maybe some future picks (2nd rounders). Cutting Nader opens up the extra spot. Right now they have only one spot remaining in the roster, right? Evans takes one of them, and you can create another for a buyout signing like Chandler/Monroe?
Or am I overcomplicating all of this...
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Cavaliers on track to give up 120 to this Spurs team without Manu, Pau, Gay and Kawhi...
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
Love should seriously demand a trade.
He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point. I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.
I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest. Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.' TP, tar.
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Wow, Lebron looks pretty flustered out there. Trying to do everything himself now.
I can see the 2010 playoffs occurring all over again this spring.
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Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
Love should seriously demand a trade.
He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point. I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.
I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest. Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.' TP, tar.
I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.
It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.
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Murray!
Did he do the classic Michael Finley post-dunk headbutt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxK9ijpz38
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FEAR NOT! GEORGE HILL TO THE RESCUE!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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FEAR NOT! GEORGE HILL TO THE RESCUE!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I really don't see how Hill helps either. He legitimately is one of the worst defenders in the league statistically - 3rd worst defensive rating I believe. Now, some of that is due to Sacramento's terrible team D, but Cleveland is legitimately just as bad defensively, so not sure how he would help.
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He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point. I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.
I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest. Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.' TP, tar.
I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.
It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.
I don't see it in his character to do so either, but he should. He's pretty much done everything he's been asked to do even when he's asked to step into a role he's clearly not comfortable in, and doesn't complain or pout or talk to the media. It sucks that he's constantly the fall guy.
He's the one guy on that team that seems to legitimately care more about winning than personal stats/status.
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Nets choke.
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He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point. I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.
I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest. Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.' TP, tar.
I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.
It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.
I don't see it in his character to do so either, but he should. He's pretty much done everything he's been asked to do even when he's asked to step into a role he's clearly not comfortable in, and doesn't complain or pout or talk to the media. It sucks that he's constantly the fall guy.
He's the one guy on that team that seems to legitimately care more about winning than personal stats/status.
With how well suited the NBA is for bigs that can space the floor, he may have had a lot more personal successes and enjoyment in a different environment. May be a tough pill to swallow.
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Nobody Cavs can get will move the needle .....unless they spend the Nets pick or k Love. .....their really only true assets others than LeDiva himself.
So.......basically imdon' think Gilbert and LeDiva are best buds anymore and neither trusts the other to comitt long term......mutal team destruction is about to occur .
Cavs now on the way back to bottom of the pecking order in NBA .....their rightful postion.
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Simmons with a monster game. Joins this list with those stats in a single game:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=ast&c1comp=gt&c1val=14&c2stat=pts&c2comp=gt&c2val=19&c3stat=trb&c3comp=gt&c3val=17&order_by=pts
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The Kings won one!
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Denver just might win over NY.
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The Kings won one!
Fox with a huge putback slam to win the game. I think the Kings have done a terrible job the last decade, but that was the right pick. He’s going to be the player that turns that franchise around thanks to his competitiveness.
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IT playing like poo again.
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Cavs looking much better with Crowder coming off the bench.
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You got to feel bad for IT. He clearly has no confidence right now, and he looks miserable out there, which is clearly understandable.
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Cavs got the win but it doesn't look impressive. They were collapsing in the final stretch. They were lucky to have a comfortable lead.
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Lakers and Bulls close with 2 minutes left.
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Lou Williams tonight: 40 points and 10 assists. :o
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Terrible night for our Laker pick but kinda good for HCA as both Raptors and Rockets lost.
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It'll be interesting to see how much the loss of Roberson affects OKC. Per https://twitter.com/MicahAdams13:
Westbrook, George, Carmelo, Adams all on the floor together this season...
Def rating with Roberson: 96.6
Def rating without Roberson: 114.5
One man causes a 4 man rotation to go from worst to first defensively.
Major blow to OKC defense.
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Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.
Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.
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Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.
Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.
Also worth noting that the Pistons are once again playing well without AB.
Fairly disturbing trend for him that's continued since leaving Boston; his teams improve when he's not on the floor.
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Boston needs to get going. Toronto 1 game out of first. Think it is very important for Boston not to have to go through Cleveland and Toronto in the playoffs.
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Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.
Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.
Also worth noting that the Pistons are once again playing well without AB.
Fairly disturbing trend for him that's continued since leaving Boston; his teams improve when he's not on the floor.
The interesting thing about Avery is that advanced stats don't back him up as an elite defender. I think he's a very good on ball defender and that's contributed to a lot of hype, but his team defense is mediocre.
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Interesting to note that IT has not played down the stretch here in Cleveland. He’s played primarily with the bench as their scorer, which I think is probably his best fit on this team.
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Boston needs to get going. Toronto 1 game out of first. Think it is very important for Boston not to have to go through Cleveland and Toronto in the playoffs.
True, but I'm happy as it's the Lakers that lost. Just gotta believe from here on out :P
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
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Interesting to note that IT has not played down the stretch here in Cleveland. He’s played primarily with the bench as their scorer, which I think is probably his best fit on this team.
he s not going to be happy play n second string
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.
So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.
EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.
So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.
EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
Gotchya. I just caught the tail end of the report. Maybe they had prefaced it more.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.
So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.
EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
Nik Vucevic sustained a similar injury on Dec 23rd and is still out.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.
So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.
EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
Gotchya. I just caught the tail end of the report. Maybe they had prefaced it more.
Thanks for the clarification.
No, you wrote it exactly how he stated it. I was watching the game and it was so obvious that he misspoke when he described as a dislocation of the fifth metacarpal.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky. I've played with it broken. Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet. But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE
That's a boxer's fracture. Did he punch s/t?
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.
So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.
EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
He'd be back well in time for the playoff then. Its just that the team won't have a chance to gel with IT before the 1st round, assuming the rest of them stay healthy. I'm guessing Crowder takes his minutes in the meantime.
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Really important to make the Cavs go through the Raptors before they get Boston
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky. I've played with it broken. Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet. But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE
Easy there "C's fan", I'm just stating what happened. But realize that you're on the edge of thinking injury was wished upon another player simply because you've been completely wrong about IT.
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Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
lol
It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky. I've played with it broken. Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet. But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE
Easy there "C's fan", I'm just stating what happened. But realize that you're on the edge of thinking injury was wished upon another player simply because you've been completely wrong about IT.
I can see this conversation is going nowhere constructive so lets end it before it begins.
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Lol this Cavs D is so laughable. It's literally Drummond and a bunch of bench players out there, yet they're up double digits still.
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Although I still think DET was stupid to make that awful trade, I am curious to see how Griffin - Drummond duo work on the court.
Who knows, maybe I'll be proven wrong and look like an idiot. :P
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When does Griffin and company appear in Detroit? Next game?
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James Harden is insane.
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WOW. Harden with 60 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists in a Rockets win :o
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The Cavaliers are having trouble against a Pistons team with Drummond + not much.
They lost Love, sure, but still have Isaiah, Lebron, etc.
And WHOA, Drummond has 18 points, 19 rebounds and 6 assists... :o
Pistons now an a 14-2 run.
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Cavs play no defense and can’t even keep up with Detroit who is undermanned
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Pistons literally creaming the Cavaliers late and about to put up 130 on them. Horrid defense.
This is WITHOUT Griffin, Harris and Bradley playing for them LOL.
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This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 125+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.
It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.
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Toronto Toronto Toronto
They are the biggest challenge to Boston
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This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 130+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.
It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.
Call me crazy, but while you were thinking about trading LBJ in the mock trade thread, I think we could actually soon see rumblings about LBJ wanting out of CLE, or some LBJ-Gilbert feud that leads to it (regarding trading or not trading Nets Pick) :o
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Isaiah was -25 tonight. Yikes.
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WOW. Harden with 60 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists in a Rockets win :o
That’s unbelievable.
Still don’t trust him in the playoffs. At all.
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Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors... :o
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Cleveland is awful
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Denver lose to the Spurs almost exactly the same as last night.. Barton missing a game winning buzzer beater.
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This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 130+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.
It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.
Call me crazy, but while you were thinking about trading LBJ in the mock trade thread, I think we could actually soon see rumblings about LBJ wanting out of CLE, or some LBJ-Gilbert feud that leads to it (regarding trading or not trading Nets Pick) :o
Don't say that ;D
However, that Cavs performance was truly pathetic. Tolliver and Johnson crushed them
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Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors... :o
Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(
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Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors... :o
Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(
Didn't they beat the warriors earlier?
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Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors... :o
Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(
It happens. Jazz go 14/28, Warriors 5/20 from three.
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Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors... :o
Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(
It happens. Jazz go 14/28, Warriors 5/20 from three.
Joe Ingles
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Yikes. This Suns/Mavs game is a brutal watch.
I never want to see the C's be a bottom dweller again.
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wow canaan with the hayward injury omg.
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I missed the cannon injury. Arena is completely quiet
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wow canaan with the hayward injury omg.
Wow. Yeah, it looked exactly like the Hayward injury.
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Leaving on the stretcher
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wow canaan with the hayward injury omg.
My goodness. That was terrible.
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Flashback to October. That was stomach turning
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UGH that's awful to see.
Is it just me, or are there way too many guys getting injured these past 10 days... :(
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UGH that's awful to see.
Is it just me, or are there way too many guys getting injured these past 10 days... :(
It seems like there's been more injuries than usual this whole season. Jeremy Lin, Dion Waiters, Kawhi Leonard, Gordon.
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toronto loses to washington, although beal almost blew it
that helps
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toronto loses to washington, although beal almost blew it
that helps
That widens the lead to 2.5?
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Lowry out choked Beal in that one.
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Griffin + Drummond = victory over....(let's not get into details)
Blake plays in Detroit and is a spokesman for Kia...which is just wrong.
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Lowry out choked Beal in that one.
Yeah, that was a “who wants to lose” kind of finish.
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That was a clown fiesta.
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toronto loses to washington, although beal almost blew it
that helps
That widens the lead to 2.5?
i think it’s widened to 2
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toronto loses to washington, although beal almost blew it
that helps
That widens the lead to 2.5?
i think it’s widened to 2
2, yeah, thanks.
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Did anyone see what happened to Terrance Ferguson??
EDIT: Trying to play through a stomach bug
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This Nuggets team is a lot of fun to watch. In a few years they're gonna be one of the top teams in the West.
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Paul George actually hit a big shot ahah
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
Reminds me of myself when I square to my keyboard and execute a post with the passion of Picasso and courage of Hemingway.
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The Pistons think they are good all of a sudden.
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
They should have passed to Barton for 3 missed game winners in a row.
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
Reminds me of myself when I square to my keyboard and execute a post with the passion of Picasso and courage of Hemingway.
You are too much sometimes, dude. TP, tar.
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
Reminds me of myself when I square to my keyboard and execute a post with the passion of Picasso and courage of Hemingway.
You are too much sometimes, dude. TP, tar.
I agree, you are too much sometimes. Have the TP that you need.
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Gary Harris just made a name for himself. Game winner
Reminds me of myself when I square to my keyboard and execute a post with the passion of Picasso and courage of Hemingway.
You are too much sometimes, dude. TP, tar.
They were both good friends. So you're basically saying you are your own best friend metaphorically, whilst being an crazy but adventurous and artistically inclined individual? :) TP to you too bud.
Little is known of the precise relationship between Picasso and Hemingway. They were friends in Paris at two high points of Hemingway's life, first in the early 1920s, then in 1944. ... He was twenty-three, just married, and getting started as writer; Picasso was eighteen years older and a famous artist.
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Rockets @ Cavaliers tonight on ABC at 8:30 PM EST.
You have to think a bad, blowout-like loss for the Cavaliers tonight would make them extremely desperate, and could make things even uglier for the organization as a whole.
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Rockets @ Cavaliers tonight on ABC at 8:30 PM EST.
You have to think a bad, blowout-like loss for the Cavaliers tonight would make them extremely desperate, and could make things even uglier for the organization as a whole.
I d be shocked if the Cavs can loose by only 10 or less. A Cavs win then i call shenanigans on the NBA . :D looking for at least 25 point Rocket blow out of LeFlopper . Bron can score 40-12-10 and it won't make a dent in tha butt whupp n that i think should take place tonight.
Harden shooting over IT will be easier than freethrows
127 - 99 ...Rockets
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Time for the scheduled "this Cavs defense is comical" post. ;D
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not sure who s worse defender LeFlip or IT
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Cavs have NO energy out there.
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Cavs are surely joking with the defense effort
Your best players set the tone ......LeFlip and IT are watching the Rockets play basketball
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IT is seemingly getting booed each time that he misses a shot now.
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Bring IT back! :)
But man the Magic are really bad. Quite unbelievable, what happened to that team and its hot start?
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They could not get IT out fast enough ....basically 4 on 5 he puts up almost no resistance defensively , the rest of the Cavs are too use to watching their man on man asignment , nd not playing IT s man too.....they are too old to play that hard
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IT is seemingly getting booed each time that he misses a shot now.
I noticed that too.
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Good grief.....even the Cavs jerseys are hot garbage.
Carpet bomb that @#$%hole city to the ground and be done with it already!
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Cavs are getting run out of the gym with Harden on the bench .
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Good grief.....even the Cavs jerseys are hot garbage.
Carpet bomb that @#$%hole city to the ground and be done with it already!
Let's wait at least 18 months before doing this so that my fellowship is done and over with and I'm out of this cold, barren wasteland! ;)
But, yeah, this Cavs team reminds me more and more of that 2013 Celtics team every time I watch them. Granted, they still have Lebron James, but they just look old and over the hill.
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Good grief.....even the Cavs jerseys are hot garbage.
Carpet bomb that @#$%hole city to the ground and be done with it already!
Let's wait at least 18 months before doing this so that my fellowship is done and over with and I'm out of this cold, barren wasteland! ;)
But, yeah, this Cavs team reminds me more and more of that 2013 Celtics team every time I watch them. Granted, they still have Lebron James, but they just look old and over the hill.
yup Cavs look like the old cooked version of the KG Pierce team.
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Cavs aren’t even competitive vs good teams
They are terrible. Going to give up near 70 in half
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IT laying on floor while rockets swishing threes fast as they can shoot
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Thomas is a shell of himself
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Man, IT looks as bad as I've seen him. He's already a -20! You just can't play that type of defensive liability both (a) on a team who can't hide him defensively, and (b) when his offense doesn't make up for his defensive liabilities.
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Playing Rose off the ball is dumb.
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There is no way in hell Thomas is even close to being healthy
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Thomas is a shell of himself
he is not rasing up like he used to.
Either he can't , or won't for fear of gett n thta hip screwed up again.
either way , he maybe doing damage to his brinks truck load play n before he is really ready .
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Lol at IT's shot selection, though. You feel bad for him until he comes down and throws up isolation 3's with 20 seconds left on the shot clock when he's gone 2-8 tonight so far, let alone his subpar season to date. Lebron is clearly frustrated playing with him.
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Lol at IT's shot selection, though. You feel bad for him until he comes down and throws up isolation 3's with 20 seconds left on the shot clock when he's gone 2-8 tonight so far, let alone his subpar season to date. Lebron is clearly frustrated playing with him.
He's gone into full on chucker mode.
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Good grief.....even the Cavs jerseys are hot garbage.
Carpet bomb that @#$%hole city to the ground and be done with it already!
Let's wait at least 18 months before doing this so that my fellowship is done and over with and I'm out of this cold, barren wasteland! ;)
But, yeah, this Cavs team reminds me more and more of that 2013 Celtics team every time I watch them. Granted, they still have Lebron James, but they just look old and over the hill.
Fine. But I'm building a wall then in the meantime. And making Clevelanders pay for it!
But seriously, I didn't know you lived there. That takes courage.
And this Cavs team does remind me a bit of that 2013 Celtics team. Everyone kept trying to convince themselves when the playoffs rolled around it'd be different. But it wasn't.
I don't think even LeBron can rescue this lot of geriatrics.
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Cavs need to get rid of all those old players ...green , wade , Rose , Smith IT and Crowder too .....over rated role players
no effort ....don't care attitude
Love should just walk off the team.
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Won’t be too long now they Lebron stops speaking to teammates, pouts and quits
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If anyone wants a good chuckle, check out the meltdown Cavs fans are having in their gamethread: https://www.fearthesword.com/2018/2/3/16967940/cleveland-cavaliers-houston-rockets-gamethread.
Ever since their winning streak ended, this has pretty much been the tone of their gamethreads.
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OMG ......that zero defense on that Rockets layup......holy cow thats embrassing
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Won’t be too long now they Lebron stops speaking to teammates, pouts and quits
I just hope it's the Celtics that have the privilege of running him out of Cleveland.....AGAIN!!!
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GS would beat them down even worse.
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Cavs gettin booed at the half. Love it.
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Cavs championship years with Bron all over .....finally
its all over
Cavs might get bounced first round
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Won’t be too long now they Lebron stops speaking to teammates, pouts and quits
I just hope it's the Celtics that have the privilege of running him out of Cleveland.....AGAIN!!!
TP to both you guys.
And I hope after we beat them and run him out again, we see him AGAIN ripping off his Cavs jersey in disgust as he exits through the tunnel.
LOVE that image of THE CHOSEN ONE.
And they are getting their butt kicks now and Chauncey and jalen Rose are banging Bron Bron around at halftime saying he's pointing fingers and pouting with bad body language and poor leadership. Adversity shows character, or lack thereof.....guess which one it is here!
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Won’t be too long now they Lebron stops speaking to teammates, pouts and quits
I just hope it's the Celtics that have the privilege of running him out of Cleveland.....AGAIN!!!
TP to both you guys.
And I hope after we beat them and run him out again, we see him AGAIN ripping off his Cavs jersey in disgust as he exits through the tunnel.
LOVE that image of THE CHOSEN ONE.
And they are getting their butt kicks now and Chauncey and jalen Rose are banging Bron Bron around at halftime saying he's pointing fingers and pouting with bad body language and poor leadership. Adversity shows character, or lack thereof.....guess which one it is here!
TP back at ya!
And one for Orlando too
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If we somehow add Tyreke/LouWilliams and stay relatively healthy, I think THIS is the year we make it out of the East. ;D
I never put my green goggles on and said that the past few years even during our great runs and CLE's struggles, figuring they still had LBJ.
But even if LBJ goes rogue, the rest of that team is broken, lost, old and can't play ANY defense.
This might be the year guys!! Hopefully we are the ones who take over the East again and send Lebron packing for good (preferably out West but not to Golden State)
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Gundy LOL ....said get rid of all the old guys and bring in G leaguers .....LOL
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Cavs are getting wrecked... and Cavs fans are pathetic for booing IT
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Cavs are getting wrecked... and Cavs fans are pathetic for booing IT
Idiots.
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IT regularly hearing LOTS of boos now. Man, you have to feel bad for the guy.
I really hope he gets traded out of Cleveland by Thursday.
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James body language is im giving up ......so the rest of the team is gonna folow suit .....Lebron is the root of the problem.....he won't step up and lead his team ...other than wring his hands shake his head and blame Lue and everybody else. Whine and cry .
Why should they play for a guy not willing to put his name on a new contract with cavs ......he makes no comittment ....so none of the team does.
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IT regularly hearing LOTS of boos now. Man, you have to feel bad for the guy.
I really hope he gets traded out of Cleveland by Thursday.
Same he deserves better
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Anyone really feel like this is just "the same old Cavs slumping in January" still? This is clearly much more severe and different than previous years.
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Looks like we MIGHT have won the Irving trade ..... ;D
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IT regularly hearing LOTS of boos now. Man, you have to feel bad for the guy.
I really hope he gets traded out of Cleveland by Thursday.
Plus it save him from having to come back to Boston and deal with Feb 11.
He should just demand a trade.
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Anyone really feel like this is just "the same old Cavs slumping in January" still? This is clearly much more severe and different than previous years.
Yeah this teams a wreck and DA knows it, which is why we signed Moose and are going hard for Reke and Lou Williams. We could be in the finals this year even without Hayward, and we play GS tough
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I don't see why IT is playing. He's not near ready.
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IT regularly hearing LOTS of boos now. Man, you have to feel bad for the guy.
I really hope he gets traded out of Cleveland by Thursday.
Same he deserves better
I ve thought this was how it was going to go down from the start . Cavs got role players that are not good as Irving ...by a long shot . The trade was for the Nets pick .....if Cavs don't save it for a young player .....the trade was a total waste .
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Anyone really feel like this is just "the same old Cavs slumping in January" still? This is clearly much more severe and different than previous years.
It looks different, but I’ve been disappointed before. Not declaring them dead until they’re eliminated in the playoffs. But it does remind me much more of 2010 than it does 2011-2017.
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IT needs to leave this situation , get his hip fixed and reboot his career .
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
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10 point loss would be a HUge moral visctory for Cavs
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Rockets are bored
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every bit the butt kicking I knew was coming down the pike for team LeFlopper
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
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I don't ever remember a home team, especially of this caliber, receiving boos this much, certainly not the Celtics either.
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why even go to see that ...fans should get a refund
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I really dare anyone to say Cleveland, as constituted, are the same ol cavs that will run through the east. This is a joke. They can not compete with the good teams Lebron or not and we have a nearly half a season worth of data to prove it
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
Houston definitely a threat, but don't count out a Pop-coached Spurs team especially if Kawhi and Gay come back healthy. They did give GSW fits and almost took Game 1 before Kawhi went down.
Warriors are still favorites but (healthy) Spurs and Rockets are legitimate threats this year.
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
It is proven that D'Antoni teams don't make it that far in the playoffs. The furthest one went was back when Steve Nash was still in Phoenix. And Chris Paul have some sort of curse or something with his 2nd-round luck. I'll believe it when I see it.
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CP3 looks like he’s playing in the all star game out there
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I don't ever remember a home team, especially of this caliber, receiving boos this much, certainly not the Celtics either.
There were definitely some loud boos during that ugly 2013 regular season.
Obviously our fans have shown that even when we get run off the floor in the playoffs we'll still cheer our team on, though.
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I switched over to Jazz-Spurs a while ago.
I love me some Joe Ingles.
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Rocket towel boys putt n on jerseys .
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Lebron James. Where will you play next year? Definitely is not in Cleveland
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Lebron James. Where will you play next year? Definitely is not in Cleveland
Houston.
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Wonder if Lebron is thinking in the back of his very small mind: "Ya know, King, maybe we should have treated Kyrie Irving with a lot more respect and maturity than we did!"
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Toronto is the biggest obstacle for Boston
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
It is proven that D'Antoni teams don't make it that far in the playoffs. The furthest one went was back when Steve Nash was still in Phoenix. And Chris Paul have some sort of curse or something with his 2nd-round luck. I'll believe it when I see it.
GSW is definitely still the favorite, nobody is challenging that.
But this Houston team seems like they absolutely have the firepower to keep up with the Dubs. We'll see if they have the fortitude.
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
It is proven that D'Antoni teams don't make it that far in the playoffs. The furthest one went was back when Steve Nash was still in Phoenix. And Chris Paul have some sort of curse or something with his 2nd-round luck. I'll believe it when I see it.
GSW is definitely still the favorite, nobody is challenging that.
But this Houston team seems like they absolutely have the firepower to keep up with the Dubs. We'll see if they have the fortitude.
Do they have good enough defense? Because that's the only way to slow down the Warriors. Many have tried to outgun Golden State and failed.
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
It is proven that D'Antoni teams don't make it that far in the playoffs. The furthest one went was back when Steve Nash was still in Phoenix. And Chris Paul have some sort of curse or something with his 2nd-round luck. I'll believe it when I see it.
GSW is definitely still the favorite, nobody is challenging that.
But this Houston team seems like they absolutely have the firepower to keep up with the Dubs. We'll see if they have the fortitude.
Do they have good enough defense? Because that's the only way to slow down the Warriors. Many have tried to outgun Golden State and failed.
Capela, Paul, Ariza, Tucker and LRMAM are all good to very good defenders.
I think the only thing stopping the Rockets is whether or not their stars have the mental fortitude to keep going when the going gets tough. It's a legit concern.
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Wonder if Lebron is thinking in the back of his very small mind: "Ya know, King, maybe we should have treated Kyrie Irving with a lot more respect and maturity than we did!"
TP for the thought, but you're giving Bron Bron WAY too much credit.
He doesn't have the capacity to make that extrapolation
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Interesting. Even Lebron is shutting down this talk about this being just like past seasons. He's directly saying to the media that this is about his lowest point in his career, much worse than previous years.
He also seemed to subtly put pressure on management to make changes when it came to talking about trades. Pretty candid stuff from Lebron.
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Oh man, I wasn't even thinking that they don't have either Gordon or Ariza. That's crazy. A GS/Houston matchup will be VERY interesting, and it could really, really help out the East champion by finally catching GS after actually getting challenged in a series.
Houston is now going to be 22-1 with all three of Paul-Harden-Capela in the lineup.
If they get completely healthy I think they can absolutely give GSW a run for their money.
It is proven that D'Antoni teams don't make it that far in the playoffs. The furthest one went was back when Steve Nash was still in Phoenix. And Chris Paul have some sort of curse or something with his 2nd-round luck. I'll believe it when I see it.
Slightly OT: It's for this reason that I'm not afraid of Toronto at all if we face them in the playoffs. No matter how strong their supporting cast is, Derozan and Lowry disappear when it matters the most.
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I'm a little bit more interested in the Pistons now.
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I'm a little bit more interested in the Pistons now.
It's funny that the trade was done between Clippers & Pistons as they both have really stunted their growth with continued misses with low 1st round picks after hitting on a lottery big man (Griffin/Drummond) and trading for a guard (Paul/Jackson). Clippers gave away most picks and the others were terrible misses and the same can be said with Pistons, if Detroit didn't pick Luke Kennard over Donovan Mitchell they actually would be in fantastic shape, long and short term.
These were some of Detroits recent draft decisions:
2017: Kennard over Mitchell
2016: Ellenson over Murray, Brogdon, McCaw
2015: Johnson over Turner, Booker, Oubre Jr.
Pistons also drafted Spencer Dinwiddie then traded him to free up a roster spot
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Denver Nuggets are truly are an up and coming team, would not really want to face em in the first round or any round in the playoffs...they just spank a completely healthy GS team.
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If playoffs started today, we'd be playing PHI. Toronto would play Miami, Washington would play Indiana, and Cleveland would play Milwaukee.
How would we feel about a first round match up vs. PHI? Embiid and Simmons are scary but I think we could wear them down in a series and win it still (in 5, maybe 6 games).
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If playoffs started today, we'd be playing PHI. Toronto would play Miami, Washington would play Indiana, and Cleveland would play Milwaukee.
How would we feel about a first round match up vs. PHI? Embiid and Simmons are scary but I think we could wear them down in a series and win it still (in 5, maybe 6 games).
With Kyrie, Hayward, Smart, Larkin and Morris all out we'll lose in 5 or 6 games if the playoffs started today lol.
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I'm a little bit more interested in the Pistons now.
yup....i was watching AB some .....If nothing else Blake will sell tickets and bring a degree of enthusiasm and entertainment back to Pistons.
Its good for Detriot
Blake needed to get out of LA limelight and SEE the rest of the world.
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Come on Memphis!
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What can you say about these Jazz.
Have beaten fairly good competition and are the hottest team in the NBA right now.
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I really hope someone comes on here later and talks about how the Cav will be fine after they beat Orlando.
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I really hope someone comes on here later and talks about how the Cav will be fine after they beat Orlando.
Well the Cavaliers are 18-7 against teams below .500
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So CLE scored 43 in the first quarter, but also gave up 31 points to a bad Magic team.
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
.... against literally the second worst team in the league with their top two players out to injury.
Yeah, applying context is hard. ::) Nice baiting, though!
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
.... against literally the second worst team in the league with their top two players out to injury.
Yeah, applying context is hard. ::) Nice baiting, though!
I'm simply sharing my opinion -- many posters create several CLE threads a day when they struggle. Even though my opinion differs from yours, everything that I stated is true.
Thanks for the snark. *Hair flip*
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
.... against literally the second worst team in the league with their top two players out to injury.
Yeah, applying context is hard. ::) Nice baiting, though!
I'm simply sharing my opinion -- many posters create several CLE threads a day when they struggle. Even though my opinion differs from yours, everything that I stated is true.
Thanks for the snark. *Hair flip*
I'm surprised tar, you didn't complement yourself & give yourself a TP for that hair flip? ???
:laugh:
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Porzingis went down... Team Lebron is cursed. Protect Kyrie...
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Cavs and Magic tied 79-79 (according to box score lol)
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
.... against literally the second worst team in the league with their top two players out to injury.
Yeah, applying context is hard. ::) Nice baiting, though!
I'm simply sharing my opinion -- many posters create several CLE threads a day when they struggle. Even though my opinion differs from yours, everything that I stated is true.
Thanks for the snark. *Hair flip*
I'm surprised tar, you didn't complement yourself & give yourself a TP for that hair flip? ???
:laugh:
I patted myself on the back. Some people have no sense of humor - I appreciate yours.
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LOL Cavaliers blew the lead. 81-81 right now. Magic have scored 30 points this quarter and there's still 3 minutes left in the 3rd.
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LOL Cavaliers blew the lead. 81-81 right now. Magic have scored 30 points this quarter and there's still 3 minutes left in the 3rd.
Believe in Cleev, phantom.
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LOL Cavaliers blew the lead. 81-81 right now. Magic have scored 30 points this quarter and there's still 3 minutes left in the 3rd.
IT will hit the game winng shot ....LOL :)
leflop will pick him up and kiss him. ...lol..
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Porzingis went down... Team Lebron is cursed. Protect Kyrie...
At this rate both Jaylen and Jayson will get into the all-star game.
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Porzingis went down... Team Lebron is cursed. Protect Kyrie...
At this rate both Jaylen and Jayson will get into the all-star game.
Dear gods, protect them.
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Lol Magic up by 4 with 8 to go.
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Porzingis went down... Team Lebron is cursed. Protect Kyrie...
At this rate both Jaylen and Jayson will get into the all-star game.
Didn't look good--he was writhing in pain. It was a sweet dunk over Giannis, too.
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Lol Magic up by 4 with 8 to go.
Win or lose, if CLE gives up about 120 to ORL, then they still have problems.
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
Lol. Looks pretty foolish now. Tars
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
Lol. Looks pretty foolish now. Tars
Yep that quote did not age well lol
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Magic up 106-92 vs. CLE with 5 mins to go
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
Lol. Looks pretty foolish now. Tars
Not at all if read with a similar sense of humor.
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Oh Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland. I can't wait to read FeartheSword after this. lol
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Cavaliers have scored a total of 4 points this quarter, and there's only 4 minutes left in the game... :o
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Oh Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland. I can't wait to read FeartheSword after this. lol
Cavs are really gonna miss Kevin Love.
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LOL Cavs getting outscored 19-4 in the 4th quarter, and there's only 2:30 left. WOW.
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Man, CLE is looking like they've won the East three years running. IT is swishin and dishin, fellas! What a bounce back from a great club. Hopefully BOS watches this tape after the Raps debacle this evening. Woof.
Lol. Looks pretty foolish now. Tars
Not at all if read with a similar sense of humor.
I can't ever tell when you are serious lol
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Oh Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland. I can't wait to read FeartheSword after this. lol
It feels like one of life's great joys
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I am not even mad the Celtics suck tonight. Cavs got outscored 65-31 in the second half
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Guys, guys, guys - don't worry. We've all seen this before. Cleveland will just flip that magical switch and be all good come playoff time! ;D
Tonight even has guys like Windhorst in awe.
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This Cleveland saga becomes curiouser and curiouser...
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dang Cav s got steam rolled by a super power
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The best thing is that Cleveland has a tough back-to-back tomorrow against Minnesota, too!
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There are times when Westbrook is legitimately unstoppable. Tonight is one of those nights.
We really need to nab Evans or even Williams, because with as tough as the West is with GS, Houston, OKC, and a healthy SAS, that's going to be a very, very fatigued Western Conference team in the Finals.
I think someone like Evans or Williams could solidify us as the frontrunners for the East, and given what the Western playoffs will look like, who knows - we might legitimately have a chance to knock off a tired/depleted/injured Warriors or Rockets team with our youth and defense.
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Looks like Warriors are not so tough after all.
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Looks like Warriors are not so tough after all.
When the Warriors win this game, we can re-evaluate this post. (Or mine — Thunder up 13 at the half at time of post.)
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Looks like Warriors are not so tough after all.
When the Warriors win this game, we can re-evaluate this post. (Or mine — Thunder up 13 at the half at time of post.)
99-76 OKC near the end of 3rd!
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Lol Warriors getting flogged and Draymond throws in the flag, gets ejected
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Too bad Roberson went down. This would have been a tough second round series for GSW.
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Warriors get blown out at home by OKC Thunder.
Kevin Durant must be missing his former team now, eh.
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Warriors get blown out at home by OKC Thunder.
Kevin Durant must be missing his former team now, eh.
No probably not. He's still on what is far and away the best team in the league and heavy heavy championship favorites.
OKC currently has a worse record than the Bucks, Wizards, and despite their recent ineptitude, Cleveland Cavaliers. They lost one of their key players for the season recently.
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Looks like Williams ain't an option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961132170009042945
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Looks like Williams ain't an option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961132170009042945
Need to go all in on Tyreke Evans.
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The best thing is that Cleveland has a tough back-to-back tomorrow against Minnesota, too!
On National TV too. I expect Karl Anthony Towns and Jimmy Butler to put on a show in Cleveland!
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Looks like Williams ain't an option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961132170009042945
Clips with their dumb sideways moves.
You push the button. You push it once. You push it hard.
Not that I'm jilted and badly wanted Lou or anything... :-X
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Looks like Warriors are not so tough after all.
When the Warriors win this game, we can re-evaluate this post. (Or mine — Thunder up 13 at the half at time of post.)
99-76 OKC near the end of 3rd!
TP for your foresight being better than mine.
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Looks like Williams ain't an option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961132170009042945
Clips with their dumb sideways moves.
You push the button. You push it once. You push it hard.
Not that I'm jilted and badly wanted Lou or anything... :-X
Moves like this might give us the 15th pick next year. Half-full glasses and such.
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Looks like Williams ain't an option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961132170009042945
Clips with their dumb sideways moves.
You push the button. You push it once. You push it hard.
Not that I'm jilted and badly wanted Lou or anything... :-X
Moves like this might give us the 15th pick next year. Half-full glasses and such.
Yeah, if they keep Jordan and can ever get Gallo healthy, they look like a 7th or 8th seed out West which could mean a really nice 15-17 pick. Really nice chip to use in a big trade.
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You would think with as much talk as there is about the Cavs struggles right now that they would actually try to play defense. Nope, it's just as porous as ever to start this Minny game.
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TWolves playing nearly as bad defensively as the Cavs.
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TWolves playing nearly as bad defensively as the Cavs.
Cleveland being bailed out by JR
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There is simply no defense being played in this game right now. While the offense is fluid on both sides, neither team is playing a lick of D. They both seem like first round fodder if they can't better their defensive efforts and schemes.
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To highlight how bad this D is, Cleveland is shooting 65% from the field and 64% from three, yet they're only up by four late in the third quarter. Minny has virtually the same offensive stats. Just no defense whatsoever.
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Jeff Green looks like he's been juicing.
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Wow, nice contest by Minny on the Steroid King's 3... not.
They are a DUMB team.
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To highlight how bad this D is, Cleveland is shooting 65% from the field and 64% from three, yet they're only up by four late in the third quarter. Minny has virtually the same offensive stats. Just no defense whatsoever.
Game's got like 10 All-Stars (current and former) so maybe they're just getting in the spirit.
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At least Butler's trash shot (with a blown chance to go 2 for 1) was followed up by James' trash shot.
Come on Minny - I am too invested in watching Cleveland totally lose!
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Jimmy Butler is playing out of his mind tonight. Ad he's one of the few SF's who can go toe-to-toe with Lebron.
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Butler has been insane this game, especially down the stretch.
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This game getting intense. LeBron and Wolves exchanging shots after shots.
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Lol that BBIQ (lack of) by Smith there. Took two dribbles before thinking about the TO. Now they're inbounding from way in the backcourt.
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Really - a 3/4 court pass to an open Lebron James at the FT line with 1 sec left?
We are really spoiled as Celtics fans - Brad would NEVER allow that pass.
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Wow, what a draw-up by Lue. Thibs just got outclassed there. There's no reason to have your defensive guys in the backcourt there; you give them a halfcourt shot like that. It was clear from the get-go they were trying to get that ball to Lebron there.
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That was just bad defense at the end.
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That was just bad defense at the end.
At the end?! Outside of a couple individual possessions, neither team played a lick of defense all night long! lol
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Starting to think IT gets shipped out tomorrow if the Cavs can find a healthy replacement. That fit just doesn't appear to be working. Getting subbed out for a rookie late in the game?
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Nice win the for the cavs. Wonder if that saved lues job
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Starting to think IT gets shipped out tomorrow if the Cavs can find a healthy replacement. That fit just doesn't appear to be working. Getting subbed out for a rookie late in the game?
The CAVS have a rookie?
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Starting to think IT gets shipped out tomorrow if the Cavs can find a healthy replacement. That fit just doesn't appear to be working. Getting subbed out for a rookie late in the game?
The CAVS have a rookie?
cedi is a rook right? regardless it was more of an offense/defense substitution
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL SPURS UP 103-55 ON PHOENIX :laugh:
10 minutes left in the 4th as well. YIKES...
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The suns are garbage. Wow blown out by 50 pts. Thank you for skipping the workout josh Jackson! Enjoy the dumpster fire
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Starting to think IT gets shipped out tomorrow if the Cavs can find a healthy replacement. That fit just doesn't appear to be working. Getting subbed out for a rookie late in the game?
The CAVS have a rookie?
cedi is a rook right? regardless it was more of an offense/defense substitution
He is. I have seen a lot of Cavs games, he should have been given minutes long ago. Lue is terrible. He reminds me of Dellavadova for them. They lose that game without him.
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Jimmy Butler has been awesome this year. Fit into Minny seamlessly and had given them exactly the push they needed to be competitive.
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Hard to believe Thibs used to coach defense.
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In the PHI vs. the NO game, Embiid has 20/10/1/1 at halftime. Simmons with 6/5/6/3 too.
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;D ;D ;D
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27545597_2101848143177032_8560788004933775088_n.jpg?oh=b2dfecc5e94ae446980a72657ee3feb4&oe=5B19A83F)
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Just before tip off of the Suns game, Josh Jackson looked completely confused by Elfrid Payton(s hair)
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IT7 with 16pts off the bench.
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IT7 with 16pts off the bench.
Yeah, and the Lakers lose to the Mavs.
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IT7 with 16pts off the bench.
Yeah, and the Lakers lose to the Mavs.
And the Mavs were clearly trying to lose that game.
With about 7 minutes left, as they always do, they subbed out all their best players except for DSJ. Almost coughed up the game too, but the Lakers kept turning the ball over down the stretch and couldn't stop a nosebleed.
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This OKC/CLE game is going to be pretty interesting.
I'm of the belief that Sunday's performance was largely a fluke. Yeah, the trades definitely made them better simply by virtue of making them younger and more athletic, but the excitement for all of the new players plus Boston playing like garbage had a lot to do with the outcome of the game.
This Cavs team is still going to struggle to learn to play with each other in time before the playoffs, and I'm betting you see a much different Cavs team tonight. (Granted, this OKC team has also been volatile and inconsistent all season long, too, so who knows what kind of OKC team we'll see tonight - the one that put up 148 in Cleveland or the one that lost to the Lakers.)
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This OKC/CLE game is going to be pretty interesting.
I'm of the belief that Sunday's performance was largely a fluke. Yeah, the trades definitely made them better simply by virtue of making them younger and more athletic, but the excitement for all of the new players plus Boston playing like garbage had a lot to do with the outcome of the game.
This Cavs team is still going to struggle to learn to play with each other in time before the playoffs, and I'm betting you see a much different Cavs team tonight. (Granted, this OKC team has also been volatile and inconsistent all season long, too, so who knows what kind of OKC team we'll see tonight - the one that put up 148 in Cleveland or the one that lost to the Lakers.)
This is exactly where I’m at too
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Steven Adams is so underrated for this OKC team. He's a key cog for them, and he works masterfully with Russ. He already has 11, 5, 1, and 1 in the first quarter.
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This OKC/CLE game is going to be pretty interesting.
I'm of the belief that Sunday's performance was largely a fluke. Yeah, the trades definitely made them better simply by virtue of making them younger and more athletic, but the excitement for all of the new players plus Boston playing like garbage had a lot to do with the outcome of the game.
This Cavs team is still going to struggle to learn to play with each other in time before the playoffs, and I'm betting you see a much different Cavs team tonight. (Granted, this OKC team has also been volatile and inconsistent all season long, too, so who knows what kind of OKC team we'll see tonight - the one that put up 148 in Cleveland or the one that lost to the Lakers.)
This is exactly where I’m at too
Same the hype from one game on here was ridiculous. I will give them credit if they win today for sure
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Cavs are definitely playing well right now. They may be the most rejuvenated team in the league right now
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OKC chucking up isolation jumpers..... sounds familiar.
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
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Cavs are definitely playing well right now. They may be the most rejuvenated team in the league right now
Yeah, definitely playing much more inspired than they were prior to the trade deadline.
Still think they're largely riding the emotional high from the trade deadline right now, though, which isn't surprising given how toxic that locker room had become. It's kind of like what happens when a coach gets fired and the team goes on a winning streak right after that (see Phoenix Suns earlier this year).
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Thunder end on 6-0 run, so it's still a relatively close game.
Defense is certainly looking more energetic for them, but again gave up 57 points by halftime.
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
Yeah, my one worry about this trade is that it further unleashes the Lebron that we saw in the 2015 playoffs when Kyrie and Love went down. When he almost exclusively initiates the offense, it's very hard to beat that team, especially if his teammates are capitalizing on his playmaking.
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It kind of sucks that The Raptors just won another one, but the Heat seem to lose all these close games. The Heat will be toast come playoff time...
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
Yeah, my one worry about this trade is that it further unleashes the Lebron that we saw in the 2015 playoffs when Kyrie and Love went down. When he almost exclusively initiates the offense, it's very hard to beat that team, especially if his teammates are capitalizing on his playmaking.
Yeah, but against this Warriors team that still won't be enough for the Cavs (unless the Warriors suffer like two big injuries). Crazy how good they are.
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
LeBron decided to start playing hard. That is the major difference with The CAVS.
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
LeBron decided to start playing hard. That is the major difference with The CAVS.
True.
That's unfortunate for us, and Toronto too.
Will it be enough to overtake GSW, I don't think so.
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Cavaliers look so much better, especially on defense.
I do wonder if part of it is because teams haven't really seen much of this new group though. Like, the Celtics went on a huge winning streak, but as teams have started to figure them out more, the C's don't look as unstoppable anymore. Remember too, the C's started with a relatively new group (only 4 players from last year's team), so it's not like film could help other teams early on either.
Of course though, they have Lebron, and that makes a difference too.
LeBron decided to start playing hard. That is the major difference with The CAVS.
True.
That's unfortunate for us, and Toronto too.
Will it be enough to overtake GSW, I don't think so.
LeBron is looking tired in this game right now, jacking long threes....
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Adams is killing the Cavs right now!
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Well, CLE is winning, but they are on pace to give up 120 again...
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OKC just might love ill-advised isolation sets and jacking long jumpers more than Boston.
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Very nice win for the cavs. As a Celtics fan this is the last thing I wanted to see because it has given them a lot of confidence heading into the break. That being said I don't want to overreact to the cavs potentially having an extra boost of energy at a time just about all teams outside the raptors are running out of gas (see what Steve Kerr did last night). Will be an interesting final 25+ games
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
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At the very least LeBron has a reason to care again with this new team around him. Going to have to cut the guys head off to beat him finally.
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
Yep, and almost no practice time together for the Cavs with the new guys.
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
Yep, and almost no practice time together for the Cavs with the new guys.
Can definitely see them winning a title this year. Can't believe George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, and Larry Nance Jr are huge difference makers.
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
Yep, and almost no practice time together for the Cavs with the new guys.
Can definitely see them winning a title this year. Can't believe George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, and Larry Nance Jr are huge difference makers.
Let’s not get carried away. You’ll need a sidekick better than Love to beat GS.
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
Yep, and almost no practice time together for the Cavs with the new guys.
Can definitely see them winning a title this year. Can't believe George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, and Larry Nance Jr are huge difference makers.
Really?
You can see this Cavs team beating the Warriors in 7?
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There's probably a honeymoon period, but they're younger, more athletic, and definitely overall better. Aside from age, the biggest difference may be in personality -- the 4 new Cavs are all deferential and seem content to play supportive roles around LeBron. That's an ideal fit.
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Cavs new-look look legit. They able to beat the Thunder @OKC with Westbrook, PG13, and Melo dressed up.
Yep, and almost no practice time together for the Cavs with the new guys.
Can definitely see them winning a title this year. Can't believe George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, and Larry Nance Jr are huge difference makers.
Oh, come on. This is such an overreaction lol They still aren't touching the Warriors, and it's still unclear that they can even get past both Boston and Toronto.
They've only beaten a slumping, exhausted Celtics team who was playing a matinee afternoon game being the third game in four nights and fourth game in six nights, and now they're going to beat a very, very inconsistent OKC team who legitimately just lost at home to a depleted Lakers team a week ago and have lost 5 of their last 7 games.
Let's withhold judgment on them "winning a title" until we see them actually play a good amount of games. Yeah, they certainly look better, but that was almost inevitable given how poorly they were playing before and how bad their locker room was.
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Rebuilding America, one brick at a time
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So the Cavs already won the east?
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Spurs lost to Denver last night and now they are sitting at a 35-24 record. Not bad, I know, but for the first time since I could grow facial hair, they look like they won't reach 50 wins winning %.
They lost 5 of the last 6, and are 10-12 since the new year. I guess that Kawhi's long absence has shown that even SAS and Pop can't overperform each time. They could still make it but it would take at least a 15-8 record to do so.
Like us, they have been excellent on defense (2nd) and below average on offense (17th), but they are missing the closer that we have (we are 1st and 22nd). Hence our better overall score IMO. So far they are slightly underperforming their point differential, while we are heavily overperforming it.
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/963953876549427200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics
Rondo and IT got into it tonight and both got tossed. Lol
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/963953876549427200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics
Rondo and IT got into it tonight and both got tossed. Lol
Couple of salty dudes right there.
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/963953876549427200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics
Rondo and IT got into it tonight and both got tossed. Lol
Pretty awesome. Two hard-headed dudes.
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Does anyone actually enjoy listening to Bill Walton?
Dude sounds like the stoned older hippy at a house party that just creeps everyone out with his constant drizzle of nonsense.
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Does anyone actually enjoy listening to Bill Walton?
Dude sounds like the stoned older hippy at a house party that just creeps everyone out with his constant drizzle of nonsense.
I don't like him at all. Combative with his co-commentators and frequently goes off on tangents that have nothing to do with the game at hand.
Also, I really dislike this Warriors team. Whiny as hell. Props to Klay Thompson for being the only one who just shuts up and does work.
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Phoenix bounced back with a valiant effort against the Jazz. Josh Jackson has been really good the past 10 games or so.
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Does anyone actually enjoy listening to Bill Walton?
Dude sounds like the stoned older hippy at a house party that just creeps everyone out with his constant drizzle of nonsense.
No, he never shuts up and talks around everything in the world minus the game in front of him.
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Does anyone actually enjoy listening to Bill Walton?
Dude sounds like the stoned older hippy at a house party that just creeps everyone out with his constant drizzle of nonsense.
It’s been borderline unpleasant watching him fight with that other guy
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Raptors win, Celtics lose = Raptors are now two games ahead of the Celtics for #1 seed.
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So the Cavs already won the east?
Pretty much...its OVA...
The media and ESPN seems to think so....lol
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Zubac is having a break-out game tonight so far, against Towns, and the Lakers are up double digits on the Twolves.
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Zubac is having a break-out game tonight so far, against Towns, and the Lakers are up double digits on the Twolves.
IT is missing a lot of lay ups, and Zubac keeps cleaning em up. They work well together at times too. Who is the 2nd commentator? He's going nuts over Zubac
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Minnesota hung a nice banner for Flip Saunders tonight
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Nikola Jokic had an insane stat line last night. 30 points/ 17 ast/ 15 rebounds against the Bucks.
The other crazy part of this is that he set the record for fastest triple double in NBA history. He recorded his 10th assist at 14 minutes and 33 seconds played. The previous record had stood since 1955 when Jim Tucker of the Syracuse Nationals recorded a triple double in 17 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhrMEyCmnQ = highlights
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nikola-jokic-records-fastest-triple-double-in-nba-history-in-stunning-performance/
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I'm not sure that there's a more athletic lineup out there than this starting lineup for USA - Smith Jr., Mitchell, Tatum, Ingram, and Collins?!
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Lol Brown is going to get MVP!
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Jaylen just hit 2 free throws. What the heck?
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Embiid is playing in both games? That's kinda crazy.
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Lol Brown is going to get MVP!
Jaylen is tearing it up!
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Brown gotta play like this ALL season. It looks so easy for him (granted its an "All Star" type game so there's really no effort on either team at the moment)
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MVP will go to Bogdanovic. I bet nobody would have guessed right on that.
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Brown for MVP, yo!
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Our future is BRIGHT between these two.
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Theyre becoming so athletic now that its almost hard to believe.
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Jaylen showcasing why the NBA made a mistake leaving him out of the dunk contest.
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Robbed!
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Jaylen robbed of MVP! 35 points 10 rebounds!
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Robbed!
Crowd booed....
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Robbed!
Crowd booed....
I think they were saying "Kuuuuuuuzzzma" lol
But Bogdanovic should've had the award revoked and given to Brown just for that terrible interview!
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Somebody needs to convince Jaylen to do the dunk contest. I think he mentioned before that he doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want to be known as 'just a dunker'. But he could put on a show.
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Hope Jaylen takes this as a snub and takes his game to a higher level to close out the season
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Portis went all T-Ro tonight with a gaudy 38/8/3 in 34 mins. Second in points off the bench only to Sweet Lou (40, twice) this season.
Maybe more interesting, the Kings are up on the Thunder going into the 4th behind 25/12 from ZBo and a couple big treys from Vinsanity.
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Memphis actually hanging in there with Cleveland right now. Down 76-69 with 3 minutes left in the 3rd.
Tyreke Evans helping them with 14 points, 7 assists (in 26 minutes).
Raptors and Bucks in a REALLY close one at the moment though :o
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We got another one down.
Jimmy Butler, and it doesn't look good.
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We got another one down.
Jimmy Butler, and it doesn't look good.
OH NO :o :'(
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Bucks doing us a favor right now.
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And just like that we’re only a game back of Toronto again! Thanks, Milwaukee!
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And just like that we’re only a game back of Toronto again! Thanks, Milwaukee!
2 games back in the loss column.
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Jimmy Butler planted hard on his foot and fell onto the floor. Grabbed his knee for like 3 minutes and had to be helped up going off the court. Fear for a torn ACL.
Tom Thibs has a good reputation of ruining his players' season/career by running them to the ground in games. Not surprised...
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I.T looks way better in L.A (than the Cavs). Happy for him.
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Jimmy Butler planted hard on his foot and fell onto the floor. Grabbed his knee for like 3 minutes and had to be helped up going off the court. Fear for a torn ACL.
Tom Thibs has a good reputation of ruining his players' season/career by running them to the ground in games. Not surprised...
Nene did fall into Butler's right leg on the rebound. Blaming Thibs is easy but don't think it makes sense for an ACL injury.
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And just like that we’re only a game back of Toronto again! Thanks, Milwaukee!
2 games back in the loss column.
Lol
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And just like that we’re only a game back of Toronto again! Thanks, Milwaukee!
2 games back in the loss column.
Lol
Why LOL? Toronto can lose 2 more games than us the rest of the season and still get the #1 seed if they hold the tie breaker.
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And just like that we’re only a game back of Toronto again! Thanks, Milwaukee!
2 games back in the loss column.
Lol
Why LOL? Toronto can lose 2 more games than us the rest of the season and still get the #1 seed if they hold the tie breaker.
I just thought it was pretty funny to throw cold water on an excited celtics fan after a nice victory and unexpected Toronto loss. Nothing you said is inaccurate. Just pretty funny routine
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MRI shows Jimmy Butler has a meniscus injury. Haven't said how long he'll be out. Time for Towns and Wiggins to step up if they can.
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MRI shows Jimmy Butler has a meniscus injury. Haven't said how long he'll be out. Time for Towns and Wiggins to step up if they can.
Horrible news for their playoff run. But Thibs' reputation precedes him. Butler was leading the league in mpg. I was worried during their game vs. LAL right before the break that this was going to happen.
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Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
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Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
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Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
I would add Jokic and Teodosic too.
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Embiid and the Sixers are on a post all-star game tear. They are going to be a tough 1st round opponent for somebody.
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Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
Yeah, I wasn't basing my opinion on assist averages... just what I see. You should add Harden in that case. I believe Simmons has the best version and flexibility to deliver, though.
Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
I would add Jokic and Teodosic too.
Jokic is a very good passer; I've fortunately never seen Teodosic play. I would add Shaquille Harrison as well.
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MRI shows Jimmy Butler has a meniscus injury. Haven't said how long he'll be out. Time for Towns and Wiggins to step up if they can.
Horrible news for their playoff run. But Thibs' reputation precedes him. Butler was leading the league in mpg. I was worried during their game vs. LAL right before the break that this was going to happen.
Wonder when agents will openly avoid Thibs teams for their guys. That would be the end of his career as an NBA head coach.
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MRI shows Jimmy Butler has a meniscus injury. Haven't said how long he'll be out. Time for Towns and Wiggins to step up if they can.
Horrible news for their playoff run. But Thibs' reputation precedes him. Butler was leading the league in mpg. I was worried during their game vs. LAL right before the break that this was going to happen.
Wonder when agents will openly avoid Thibs teams for their guys. That would be the end of his career as an NBA head coach.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised. Maybe he has some evidence that # more mpg doesn't lead to injury, but it looks problematic. And I love people who seem as angry as Thibs.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
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Man OKC just lost the game and got creamed those last 4 minutes.
And although I love Westbrook, I can see why people get frustrated with him. When the team needs him the most to weather the storm, all he does is jack up 40 footers or drive alone into a quadruple team :P
Oh and lose Curry a bunch of times on defense which obviously never goes well.
But in this game, OKC gave up. Couldn't rebound or shoot the last 4 minutes of the 3rd...
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
They ain't competing against anyone, especially after they lost their best all around defender in Roberson.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
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Lol Zaza playing dirty again, trying to injure Westbrook like he did to Kawhi last playoffs.
What kind of dumb fall is that...intentional IMO.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
I believe the season series is still 2-1 to OKC. No?
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
I believe the season series is still 2-1 to OKC. No?
I believe the Thunder thumped GSW in one of those wins as well.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
I believe the season series is still 2-1 to OKC. No?
I believe the Thunder thumped GSW in one of those wins as well.
One or two of those OKC wins were probably without one of Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Iggy
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The 4th through 7th teams in the East all have 25 losses after last night and Cleveland is only 2 games ahead with 23 losses.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
At the time I posted it was mid-third with OKC up 1, and even with the loss OKC is up 2-1 on the season series, same as Houston with GS. OKC’s length and D present challenges for the turnover-happy Warriors.
Both George (1-15) and Russ (4-15) even had one of their worst games of the season simultaneously, yet they were still in it in the third. I just think GS should be afraid of having to go through both OKC and Houston in the playoffs, given that they’ve struggled against them this year going 2-4 so far.
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Cavs embarrassing themselves on national tv again. Jordan clarkson isn't walking through that door
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Lebron really frustrated. Aldridge scores and Lebron smacks the ball off the wall then throws it away, then CLE calls a timeout. How the hell does Lebron not get a technical there... ::)
And boy, can't wait for the excuses to poor in for CLE. "OH LEBRON NEEDS HELP. THEY DIDN'T HAVE KEVIN LOVE!!" all while San Antonio wins by 10+ on the road without Leonard and Gay...
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Lebron really frustrated. Aldridge scores and Lebron smacks the ball off the wall then throws it away, then CLE calls a timeout. How the hell does Lebron not get a technical there... ::)
he's LeBron!!! He can do anything he wants
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I totally agree. What would make the Warrior's road to the finals even harder would be having to play a team like the wolves or spurs in the first round, too. Minnesota/San Antonio (With Butler and Leonard back), OKC, at Houston would be a really tough schedule.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
When OK3 goes 3-18 from deep and Paul George has the night he has, then OKC obviously gets blown out.
I still think GSW > OKC in a playoff series, but I wouldn't let last night's game be representative of the Thunder team. Westbrook had a bad night too.
But as we've seen, when the OK3 have solid nights, they can beat anybody, including the Warriors who they are 2-1 against in this season.
I do think Westbrook needs to tone it down at times. When OKC needed something while GSW started pulling away, all Westbrook did was jack up 40 footers, or drive into quadruple teams and then make a bad pass or try a horrid shot attempt. He's an electric player but can be really inefficient and inconsistent as well.
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Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
Yeah, I wasn't basing my opinion on assist averages... just what I see. You should add Harden in that case. I believe Simmons has the best version and flexibility to deliver, though.
Ben Simmons is the best passer in the NBA at 21 y/o.
Honestly, I think James, Paul, Rondo and Lonzo Ball, who is 20, are all better. But he is a great passer to be sure.
I would add Jokic and Teodosic too.
Jokic is a very good passer; I've fortunately never seen Teodosic play. I would add Shaquille Harrison as well.
I didnt base mine off assist numbers either. Also, Shaquille Harrison? really?
Harden is a good passer, but I don't put him in the same tier as the guys I listed.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
When OK3 goes 3-18 from deep and Paul George has the night he has, then OKC obviously gets blown out.
I still think GSW > OKC in a playoff series, but I wouldn't let last night's game be representative of the Thunder team. Westbrook had a bad night too.
But as we've seen, when the OK3 have solid nights, they can beat anybody, including the Warriors who they are 2-1 against in this season.
I do think Westbrook needs to tone it down at times. When OKC needed something while GSW started pulling away, all Westbrook did was jack up 40 footers, or drive into quadruple teams and then make a bad pass or try a horrid shot attempt. He's an electric player but can be really inefficient and inconsistent as well.
losing Roberson made the matchup no longer intriguing.
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Man, I think OKC could really give GS fits in the playoffs.
With Butler and Kawhi out, I think OKC gets to that 3 spot. GS better buckle down and get that first seed, because they could be in some real trouble if they have to see OKC in the second round and then Houston in the WCF without homecourt advantage.
I didn't see the game but what in a 32 point loss made you think OKC can hang with Golden State?
When OK3 goes 3-18 from deep and Paul George has the night he has, then OKC obviously gets blown out.
I still think GSW > OKC in a playoff series, but I wouldn't let last night's game be representative of the Thunder team. Westbrook had a bad night too.
But as we've seen, when the OK3 have solid nights, they can beat anybody, including the Warriors who they are 2-1 against in this season.
I do think Westbrook needs to tone it down at times. When OKC needed something while GSW started pulling away, all Westbrook did was jack up 40 footers, or drive into quadruple teams and then make a bad pass or try a horrid shot attempt. He's an electric player but can be really inefficient and inconsistent as well.
losing Roberson made the matchup no longer intriguing.
I'll say it certainly is a bummer. I'm surprised they didn't try to go hard after someone to possibly replace Roberson for the time being, but maybe they just didn't have the assets or cap situation to pull it off.
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I'm sure Brett Brown is a fine coach, but he may be the last person to realize that Holmes is his best option next to Embiid. Bless our friend Amir, though.
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So glad we have Jaylen Brown. That young man transforms into an animal on the fast break.
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Man nets have a 100 on cavs with 9 minutes left. Cavs are down 1. They will probably still win game but bloom is definitely off the rose on their new role players. If they lose this watch out!
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Charlotte may be the most stuck team in the league. Outside of monk (who does not look good so far) they are playing all vets Howard, walker, batum, zeller. How do they become relevant?
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Charlotte may be the most stuck team in the league. Outside of monk (who does not look good so far) they are playing all vets Howard, walker, batum, zeller. How do they become relevant?
Don't forget, they also have Kaminsky.
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Win or lose, that Brooklyn dropped 120 points on Cleveland tells you all you need to know about how much the new guys are effecting the defense
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Charlotte may be the most stuck team in the league. Outside of monk (who does not look good so far) they are playing all vets Howard, walker, batum, zeller. How do they become relevant?
My man Guillermo is going to take them to the next level.
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Charlotte may be the most stuck team in the league. Outside of monk (who does not look good so far) they are playing all vets Howard, walker, batum, zeller. How do they become relevant?
Don't forget, they also have Kaminsky.
He has improved as little as any young player from entering the league
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
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Man nets have a 100 on cavs with 9 minutes left. Cavs are down 1. They will probably still win game but bloom is definitely off the rose on their new role players. If they lose this watch out!
the bloom will be back on soon enough, have you seen their remaining schedule? Absurdly easy. Wow. They could take a great majority of those games. I see one top opponent the rest of the way and that's Toronto twice. The only other games they may face some stiff comp is Mil, Den 2x, Philly 2x and Was. I'm not convinced any of those teams are much better than them, maybe Was who has won a lot without Wall but the Cavs have a cakewalk otherwise.
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
Yeah, Embiid has been killing it, and adding Belinelli and Ilyasova helps give them a vet presence and much needed shooting. With those two and Reddick, they can really spread the floor for Embiid and Simmons.
Saric is a very nice complement to Embiid and Simmons as well.
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
Yeah, Embiid has been killing it, and adding Belinelli and Ilyasova helps give them a vet presence and much needed shooting. With those two and Reddick, they can really spread the floor for Embiid and Simmons.
Saric is a very nice complement to Embiid and Simmons as well.
Yep, I think they'll be a tough out. Embiid is a competitive guy, seems to play every game with a purpose.
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
Yeah, Embiid has been killing it, and adding Belinelli and Ilyasova helps give them a vet presence and much needed shooting. With those two and Reddick, they can really spread the floor for Embiid and Simmons.
Saric is a very nice complement to Embiid and Simmons as well.
Yep, I think they'll be a tough out. Embiid is a competitive guy, seems to play every game with a purpose.
Did you guys just skip their game yesterday? They have some really fun players but they lead the league in turnovers and that is not a recipe for playoff success. I would much rather face them than a lot of these other teams in the playoffs m
Edit: as I was typing this they fouled Wade on a 3 point attempt to give him a chance to tie the game. They are incredibly young. Except for that one amazing thunder team with 3 future mvps, young teams struggle in the playoffs...
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
Yeah, Embiid has been killing it, and adding Belinelli and Ilyasova helps give them a vet presence and much needed shooting. With those two and Reddick, they can really spread the floor for Embiid and Simmons.
Saric is a very nice complement to Embiid and Simmons as well.
Yep, I think they'll be a tough out. Embiid is a competitive guy, seems to play every game with a purpose.
Did you guys just skip their game yesterday? They have some really fun players but they lead the league in turnovers and that is not a recipe for playoff success. I would much rather face them than a lot of these other teams in the playoffs m
Edit: as I was typing this they fouled Wade on a 3 point attempt to give him a chance to tie the game. They are incredibly young. Except for that one amazing thunder team with 3 future mvps, young teams struggle in the playoffs...
So yes. 24 turnovers and blow a 10 point 4th quarter lead. That's about as big an exhibit for a young team I could put together
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The 76ers play hard. Their recent games have had a playoff feel. I get a lot of people don't like them here, but they are fun to watch.
Yeah, Embiid has been killing it, and adding Belinelli and Ilyasova helps give them a vet presence and much needed shooting. With those two and Reddick, they can really spread the floor for Embiid and Simmons.
Saric is a very nice complement to Embiid and Simmons as well.
Yep, I think they'll be a tough out. Embiid is a competitive guy, seems to play every game with a purpose.
Did you guys just skip their game yesterday? They have some really fun players but they lead the league in turnovers and that is not a recipe for playoff success. I would much rather face them than a lot of these other teams in the playoffs m
Edit: as I was typing this they fouled Wade on a 3 point attempt to give him a chance to tie the game. They are incredibly young. Except for that one amazing thunder team with 3 future mvps, young teams struggle in the playoffs...
Yeah, I watch most b/c 3 are on my fantasy team. They are young, and make mistakes. Simmons forces passes at times, and when Embiid gets frustrated, he's prone to poor shots. But, I said they're fun to watch and will be a tough out b/c of talent and effort.
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Sixers up by 10 late in the 3rd against the Cavs. Belinelli has been great for them so far, and Ersan will be too once he settles in.
Meanwhile, the new Cavs players don't look so hot anymore. Nobody besides Lebron has double digits in points heading towards the 4th quarter.
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Is it me or Embiid is just lazy in posting up?
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Is it me or Embiid is just lazy in posting up?
Embiid seems pretty lazy in general with his shot selection. I mean, he is still a very good player, but it seems he could be so much better.
Cleveland now within 4 - I really hope the Sixers can get things working again and win this. For some reason, Amir Johnson is now the only player who can score (barely) for Philly.
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Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid are the real deal. If Lebron leaves CLE, he should seriously consider PHI. Give them two shooters and that team is lethal.
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Isaiah with his best game of the season, 29/6/4 and +13 in 29 mins, and against a decent team too.
Before tonight, none of his 6 highest scoring games this year (where he had between 19-24 points) had him as a positive when he was on the court.
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Isaiah with his best game of the season, 29/6/4 and +13 in 29 mins, and against a decent tram too.
Before tonight, none of his 6 highest scoring games this year (where he had between 19-24 points) had him as a positive when he was on the court.
That's a great game! I'm happy for him. Please add this to the All Positive IT Thread? :)
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Man, I would LOVE to see a Cavs vs Sixers playoff series. I think the Sixers can take them down.
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Man, I would LOVE to see a Cavs vs Sixers playoff series. I think the Sixers can take them down.
PHI is a good team. Embiid/Simmons PNR and even Embiid post-ups will be mismatches. Simmons beats his guy then kicks out to Saric/Reddick. I could see them doing some damage in the playoffs this year.
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Isaiah with his best game of the season, 29/6/4 and +13 in 29 mins, and against a decent tram too.
Before tonight, none of his 6 highest scoring games this year (where he had between 19-24 points) had him as a positive when he was on the court.
There's just something about Miami that brings the best out of IT. I don't remember the Celtics ever losing to the Heat when Isaiah was on the team.
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And down go the Cavs!
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Great finish for the Sixers. They almost gave up the lead twice there at the end, but showed real focus on their shots and on D. I would love nothing more than for CLE to fall to 4th (if we get the 2nd seed); if we're lucky, PHI or MIL could slip into the 5th spot and really give them a fight before playing TOR.
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Great finish for the Sixers. They almost gave up the lead twice there at the end, but showed real focus on their shots and on D. I would love nothing more than for CLE to fall to 4th (if we get the 2nd seed); if we're lucky, PHI or MIL could slip into the 5th spot and really give them a fight before playing TOR.
Very good win. Right after you posted, Saric dunked on a breakaway with the game out of hand and Clarkson threw the ball off his back. A little scuffle ensued with LBJ getting really heated. He made amends at the end., though.
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Man, I would LOVE to see a Cavs vs Sixers playoff series. I think the Sixers can take them down.
PHI is a good team. Embiid/Simmons PNR and even Embiid post-ups will be mismatches. Simmons beats his guy then kicks out to Saric/Reddick. I could see them doing some damage in the playoffs this year.
I said the same above. They could be dangerous, and they're fun to watch.
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Dang, the Cavs suddenly falling apart after smoking the Celtics and OKC Thunder before the All-Star break. Time for LeBron to start calling out his team again!
Definitely exaggerated last time when I said they'd outlast the Warriors in a 7-game series loooool
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Dang, the Cavs suddenly falling apart after smoking the Celtics and OKC Thunder before the All-Star break. Time for LeBron to start calling out his team again!
Definitely exaggerated last time when I said they'd outlast the Warriors in a 7-game series loooool
I have been in these forums since they started and I seriously think the reaction to the cavs winning two games with role players was biggest overreaction I ever saw
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Dang, the Cavs suddenly falling apart after smoking the Celtics and OKC Thunder before the All-Star break. Time for LeBron to start calling out his team again!
Definitely exaggerated last time when I said they'd outlast the Warriors in a 7-game series loooool
I have been in these forums since they started and I seriously think the reaction to the cavs winning two games with role players was biggest overreaction I ever saw
Nah. It was definitely extreme. But I think that was an overly strong reaction in response to a growing sentiment that the Cavs had officially collapsed.
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Any thoughts as to why Amir Johnson gets the backup Center mins over Richaun Holmes?
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Koufos is rockin' bright purple shoes in the SAC-BRK game right now.
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Koufos is rockin' bright purple shoes in the SAC-BRK game right now.
Fox with a beautiful floater just sent it to OT
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CLE's ship appears to have some leakage.
While better - I think - they are perhaps NOT the juggernaut some believed them to be.
$trusttheprocess
#BOSstillhasashot
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Dang, the Cavs suddenly falling apart after smoking the Celtics and OKC Thunder before the All-Star break. Time for LeBron to start calling out his team again!
Definitely exaggerated last time when I said they'd outlast the Warriors in a 7-game series loooool
I have been in these forums since they started and I seriously think the reaction to the cavs winning two games with role players was biggest overreaction I ever saw
Nah. It was definitely extreme. But I think that was an overly strong reaction in response to a growing sentiment that the Cavs had officially collapsed.
Tars you know I love you. Build on this though. Curious for your thoughts. I even saw a few posts that said the cavs would make up 6 games on the Celtics in the last 20. They got role players off lottery teams. The hype made no sense. I am thinking this is worthy of a poll.
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The Cavs are a curious case for a couple of reasons. First, we clearly see the upside when they are dialed in and playing with complete effort. A fully engaged Cavs teams is still the favorite in the Conference until LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals. Second, it's difficult to get a read on their recent struggles since the All-Star break. The excitement of having a new group together is clearly wearing off. I'd imagine a lot of this has to do with LeBron's demeanor. I'm convinced that he isn't capable of fully engaging himself in the "little things" during the course of an 82 game season anymore. He fills the stat sheet every night but is he committed to the process of getting better (as a team) every day? The more likely answer is that he is waiting for the playoffs to dig in.
I'm struggling to come to a conclusion. On one hand we know LeBron is capable of destroying teams that aren't truly elite. The problem this season is that Kevin Love will need to shoulder more of the burden when it comes to playoff experience. Kyrie has an extra gear that helped the Cavs immensely. Wade offered the same thing during LeBron's Miami days. You could even argue that Bosh did the same in some of those big playoff games.
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Question for everyone else regarding LeBron. Do you guys believe that he actually hates losing to the same extent as other NBA legends? We all know that Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kobe etc. hated losing as much if not more than winning. I feel like LeBron just wants to enjoy playing and competing. The final results come secondary regarding wins and losses. His motivation for titles at this point seems to be about enhancing his overall legacy as an All-Time great. This doesn't mean that losing effects him in the same way as others.
I don't mean for this be a criticism of LeBron. Most players aren't as freakishly competitive as the players listed above. Hatred of losing could be considered an intangible among some of the greats.
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.... The excitement of having a new group together is clearly wearing off. ...
This happens every time the Cavs make a move to shore up the supporting cast. The national media reaction is almost always "well now the Cavs will win the title again..." when the simple reality is that only superstars actually move the needle significantly. They are missing Kyrie badly now.
Do you guys believe that he actually hates losing to the same extent as other NBA legends?
Impossible to say for sure, but as much as I dislike LeBron, he seems like a VERY high-level competitor. It's just that he's learned to save that next gear for the playoffs. Without looking, I'm sure he has played more games than anyone else in the NBA over the past 15 years.
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.... The excitement of having a new group together is clearly wearing off. ...
This happens every time the Cavs make a move to shore up the supporting cast. The national media reaction is almost always "well now the Cavs will win the title again..." when the simple reality is that only superstars actually move the needle significantly. They are missing Kyrie badly now.
Do you guys believe that he actually hates losing to the same extent as other NBA legends?
Impossible to say for sure, but as much as I dislike LeBron, he seems like a VERY high-level competitor. It's just that he's learned to save that next gear for the playoffs. Without looking, I'm sure he has played more games than anyone else in the NBA over the past 15 years.
He is no doubt an elite competitor during the game. I just wonder if it really eats him up when he loses on the biggest stage. The vibe I get is that he lives with the results and moves on quicker than players like Jordan, Bird, and Kobe. All three have stated that they hated losing more than they enjoyed winning. This doesn't necessarily speak negatively of LeBron. Durant is the same way. Players like Jordan, Bird, and Kobe were wired differently.
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Just like that, Raptors are only down 1 after 14 in the first.
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Really confusing game. On one hand, I want Washington to win so that they knock the Cavs down to the 4 spot and we can avoid them in the 2nd round. If the Raptors lose, however, we are then more likely to catch them for the 1 seed and would still face the Cavs in the 2nd round.
Maybe we are just destined to face the Cavs...and that's okay - we need to just play our best and if Hayward comes back, then we can really dream.
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Due to fantasy bball, I genuinely enjoy watching the Sixers, Bulls(!), and Grizz(!!!). Never thought that'd happen.
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Hoping the Wizards win.
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And you would think Wizards will finally not let CJ miles get open. Nope.
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Any thoughts as to why Amir Johnson gets the backup Center mins over Richaun Holmes?
Coach Brown is a defensive coach and Holmes defense isn't that good.
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Cleveland down 5 late in the 4th to Denver. Would be another big loss for them and yet another example of why those wins against Boston and OKC right before the ASB were a bit of a mirage.
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Cavs lose one with Lebron playing 42 minutes. They might not have home court in the 1st round.
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Any thoughts as to why Amir Johnson gets the backup Center mins over Richaun Holmes?
Coach Brown is a defensive coach and Holmes defense isn't that good.
TP. His defense and rebounding continue to improve though. It just seems odd to favor Amir over him at this point.
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Ha! Cleveland's defense is still a joke.
Those wins over Boston and OKC before the ASB were flukes. I think it's fair to say both teams were kind of wary since they barely had film on the new-look Cavaliers and didn't really know how they'd function (how many minutes would this guy play? what's their small ball lineup? big lineup?)
Kevin Love coming back should help them, but his defense was also pretty bad while healthy, so yeah, CLE can outscore many teams but won't outscore the likes of Houston, Golden State, and probably not even Toronto with the bench TOR has this season (props to them).
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
It would be interesting if they did miss the playoffs they make a mutual decision with Kawhi to trade him. They are capped out and any other trade would weaken them, although i'd say the team that took on Kawhi would have to take on most probably Pau or LMA's bad contracts.
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
It would be interesting if they did miss the playoffs they make a mutual decision with Kawhi to trade him. They are capped out and any other trade would weaken them, although i'd say the team that took on Kawhi would have to take on most probably Pau or LMA's bad contracts.
LMA is playing at an all-star/all-nba level. If his contract is bad then so is Horford's. I think both are tradable but neither would get you that much in return.
If the Spurs do trade Kahwi, adding Pau would reduce the value they get back and they'd probably still have to salary match. What they should do is take on a bad contract to increase the value they get back.
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Any thoughts as to why Amir Johnson gets the backup Center mins over Richaun Holmes?
Coach Brown is a defensive coach and Holmes defense isn't that good.
TP. His defense and rebounding continue to improve though. It just seems odd to favor Amir over him at this point.
I like Holmes. I wanted us to draft him instead of Mickey. He's definitely improved but he's still inconsistent on defense. Coaches value consistency. With the addition of Ilyasova, I think Amir and Holmes will lose playing time. They both could be out of the playoff rotation.
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
It would be interesting if they did miss the playoffs they make a mutual decision with Kawhi to trade him. They are capped out and any other trade would weaken them, although i'd say the team that took on Kawhi would have to take on most probably Pau or LMA's bad contracts.
LMA's contract isn't bad. Pau is partially guaranteed $6.7M for 2019-20, so not too bad either. The contract I don't like is Patty Mills who is in the first year of a 4-yr, $50M contract.
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Sixers currently in a massive meltdown
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
It would be interesting if they did miss the playoffs they make a mutual decision with Kawhi to trade him. They are capped out and any other trade would weaken them, although i'd say the team that took on Kawhi would have to take on most probably Pau or LMA's bad contracts.
LMA's contract isn't bad. Pau is partially guaranteed $6.7M for 2019-20, so not too bad either. The contract I don't like is Patty Mills who is in the first year of a 4-yr, $50M contract.
Sixers currently in a massive meltdown
This is the craziest meltdown I have seen. 25 point turnaround and they are turning it over every possession
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What exactly is philly paying Brett brown to do?
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What exactly is philly paying Brett brown to do?
No accountability there. Hinkie died for everyone's sins. If Holmes gets in and spurs a run, I TP myself.
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Spurs are washed up, they done.
It would be interesting if they did miss the playoffs they make a mutual decision with Kawhi to trade him. They are capped out and any other trade would weaken them, although i'd say the team that took on Kawhi would have to take on most probably Pau or LMA's bad contracts.
LMA's contract isn't bad. Pau is partially guaranteed $6.7M for 2019-20, so not too bad either. The contract I don't like is Patty Mills who is in the first year of a 4-yr, $50M contract.
Sixers currently in a massive meltdown
This is the craziest meltdown I have seen. 25 point turnaround and they are turning it over every possession
It's been their story the whole season.
They are immensely talented but their inexperience is going to kill them in the playoffs.
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What exactly is philly paying Brett brown to do?
He still thinks he’s tanking?
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Shout-out to old friend Tyler Zeller. He looks like a great fit in Milwaukee.
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What exactly is philly paying Brett brown to do?
No accountability there. Hinkie died for everyone's sins. If Holmes gets in and spurs a run, I TP myself.
Curious what hinkie has to do with brown not calling timeouts
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
Cavs could fall pretty low. They have been playing worse than the teams below them for months and finally are just about caught. Cavs could end up 6
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What exactly is philly paying Brett brown to do?
No accountability there. Hinkie died for everyone's sins. If Holmes gets in and spurs a run, I TP myself.
Curious what hinkie has to do with brown not calling timeouts
I don't know. And if the answer lies in a game thread, I may never know. :(
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
Or 5 or 6 seed too. Cleveland as seed 4 through 6 would mean they'd likely win and have to play Toronto in second round. Cleveland as seed 4 or 5 both seem possible...I haven't checked the standings to see if they could still end up the 6th seed but obviously it's unlikely.
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Honestly I would give up the whole roster except for Kyrie for Giannis Haha...maybe in 4 years
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
Or 5 or 6 seed too. Cleveland as seed 4 through 6 would mean they'd likely win and have to play Toronto in second round. Cleveland as seed 4 or 5 both seem possible...I haven't checked the standings to see if they could still end up the 6th seed but obviously it's unlikely.
LeBron James hasn't had an early playoff exit since he first left Cleveland.
Could that finally change this postseason?
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
Or 5 or 6 seed too. Cleveland as seed 4 through 6 would mean they'd likely win and have to play Toronto in second round. Cleveland as seed 4 or 5 both seem possible...I haven't checked the standings to see if they could still end up the 6th seed but obviously it's unlikely.
LeBron James hasn't had an early playoff exit since he first left Cleveland.
Could that finally change this postseason?
This team is similar to his first teams in Cleveland. In Miami he had 3 legit stars. In Cleveland the second run he has always had Irving. This year the second best player is Kevin love trying to come back from injury.
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The Celtics best chance of avoiding Cleveland is likely them falling to the #4 seed
Or 5 or 6 seed too. Cleveland as seed 4 through 6 would mean they'd likely win and have to play Toronto in second round. Cleveland as seed 4 or 5 both seem possible...I haven't checked the standings to see if they could still end up the 6th seed but obviously it's unlikely.
LeBron James hasn't had an early playoff exit since he first left Cleveland.
Could that finally change this postseason?
This team is similar to his first teams in Cleveland. In Miami he had 3 legit stars. In Cleveland the second run he has always had Irving. This year the second best player is Kevin love trying to come back from injury.
Funny I just thought about those other Cavs teams...overpaid former stars as role players killed any roster flexibility trying to get there too quickly/win now. Came up short and were screwed.
Yup. Same thing.
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Shout-out to old friend Tyler Zeller. He looks like a great fit in Milwaukee.
Yes, they like him there. Able to contain Embiid. Not many centers can do that.
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When is Love scheduled to return? IN time for the first round of playoffs?
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Nance was easily the best addition for the Cavs at the deadline. He's a perfect system player off of Lebron and for the Cavs in particular with their lack of D. Would love to have him on the C's.
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Cavs the contenders are back 8)
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Cavs the contenders are back 8)
DET prob ain't a playoff team, but it is somewhat impressive that CLE creamed them on the boards w/out Love or TT (pronounced 'tea-tea').
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Chandler Parsons played basketball tonight.
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Suddenly, the LA Lakers have been one of the hottest teams in the second half of the NBA this season. Still possible for them to wrestle for the #8 seed lol.
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Suddenly, the LA Lakers have been one of the hottest teams in the second half of the NBA this season. Still possible for them to wrestle for the #8 seed lol.
at this point, Id like to keep the pick out of the top 10 for Philly.
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Suddenly, the LA Lakers have been one of the hottest teams in the second half of the NBA this season. Still possible for them to wrestle for the #8 seed lol.
at this point, Id like to keep the pick out of the top 10 for Philly.
True. I guess we're on to Sacramento Kings pick.
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Did Steph Curry possess Damian Lillard cuz that guy lighted up the Lakers on the perimeter late in the game. Especially nailing a 32-foot three-pointer like it was nothing.
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Did Steph Curry possess Damian Lillard cuz that guy lighted up the Lakers on the perimeter late in the game. Especially nailing a 32-foot three-pointer like it was nothing.
Dame has been averaging almost 33ppg during this Portland winning streak, it's insane.
If they maintain this and end up 3rd in the West he deserves a few MVP votes (although so does AD)
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It looks like IT cost the Lakers that game last night. 1 for 9 from 3- What is someone thinking when they keep missing and missing and keep throwing them up? He was negative 17 for the night and shot 5 for 21 from 2 pt so it is not like he was hitting anything.
Randle has quietly put up 15 and 7 and 3 for the season while only playing 25 a night. It appears he has finally started his upward climb towards being good. Some nights he looks super solid. With the right system, he might turn out to be a decent player after all.
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It looks like IT cost the Lakers that game last night. 1 for 9 from 3- What is someone thinking when they keep missing and missing and keep throwing them up? He was negative 17 for the night and shot 5 for 21 from 2 pt so it is not like he was hitting anything.
Randle has quietly put up 15 and 7 and 3 for the season while only playing 25 a night. It appears he has finally started his upward climb towards being good. Some nights he looks super solid. With the right system, he might turn out to be a decent player after all.
Often times players are actually coached to do just this. And in truth, a player who has supreme confidence in their ability is always going to believe the next shot will go in. It's fairly normal for highly accomplished offensive players.
Now with that said, I've got no problem with IT ruining the Lakers. He doesn't wear the Celtics green anymore, and didn't really accomplish anything meaningful enough for me to feel attached to him in any sort of manner (like I would for guys like Pierce KG, Rondo, ect.), so I don't care if his career goes down in flames from here on out.
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It looks like IT cost the Lakers that game last night. 1 for 9 from 3- What is someone thinking when they keep missing and missing and keep throwing them up? He was negative 17 for the night and shot 5 for 21 from 2 pt so it is not like he was hitting anything.
Randle has quietly put up 15 and 7 and 3 for the season while only playing 25 a night. It appears he has finally started his upward climb towards being good. Some nights he looks super solid. With the right system, he might turn out to be a decent player after all.
Poor ol It will get the boot if Lebron signs there. ....I d much rather watch IT than the Big Whiner
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It looks like IT cost the Lakers that game last night. 1 for 9 from 3- What is someone thinking when they keep missing and missing and keep throwing them up? He was negative 17 for the night and shot 5 for 21 from 2 pt so it is not like he was hitting anything.
Randle has quietly put up 15 and 7 and 3 for the season while only playing 25 a night. It appears he has finally started his upward climb towards being good. Some nights he looks super solid. With the right system, he might turn out to be a decent player after all.
Poor ol It will get the boot if Lebron signs there. ....I d much rather watch IT than the Big Whiner
I'm worried about IT. There just isn't any money out there this off-season. On top of that, there are a lot of young guards looking for money.
There is not a team out there that makes sense for IT (at least in my mind). He is not scoring well enough anymore to go to a good team looking for a scoring punch off the bench. All the bad teams seem to be going in other directions.
The one scenario that I could see working out is the Lakers signing him to a one year, 15-20 million dollar deal. But that only happens if they don't get the big fish they want.
There is a possible scenario that plays out where IT is not playing in the NBA next season because no team is willing to offer him money and he is too proud to take a MLE or Biannual type deal.
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Lakers playing better than talent warrants. Kudos to Walton’s coaching.
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
Seeing this all written out like this again, makes me really appreciate Ainge..Man imagine the scenario where we kept all of them and had to pay them..
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
don't forget Crowder. He fell off the face of the planet
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
don't forget Crowder. He fell off the face of the planet
I think most competent GMs realize that Brad's system worked very well for these guys. It's going to be a challenge for any of these players (including Evan Turner and other past players) to get back to where they were in their last year in Boston.
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
don't forget Crowder. He fell off the face of the planet
I think most competent GMs realize that Brad's system worked very well for these guys. It's going to be a challenge for any of these players (including Evan Turner and other past players) to get back to where they were in their last year in Boston.
This is the key word; it seems there's usually one or two bad GMs (in any sport) who'll make a ridiculous overpay for a certain player (or type of player), and thus set an artificially high bar for other teams looking to make similar free-agent acquisitions.
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IT and Bradley picked the wrong time to have bad contract years. Just one year ago at this point most of this blog figured both players at being worth $20+ million per year. Now, I am not sure they will get a maxed out MLE contract.
That sucks. Well, I mean they will both be multi-millionaires so it doesn't suck. But it does suck to see two pretty good guys kill their chances at so much more money.
I guess you can throw Smart into that same club. Last year people thought he might get $15 million per. Find it hard to see a team offering him over the MLE either. There is just no money out there for all of them.
don't forget Crowder. He fell off the face of the planet
I think most competent GMs realize that Brad's system worked very well for these guys. It's going to be a challenge for any of these players (including Evan Turner and other past players) to get back to where they were in their last year in Boston.
This is the key word; it seems there's usually one or two bad GMs (in any sport) who'll make a ridiculous overpay for a certain player (or type of player), and thus set an artificially high bar for other teams looking to make similar free-agent acquisitions.
I think Marcus Smart is gone for this reason.
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This Detroit team is just not very good, especially their bench unit.
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Chicago got in trouble for tanking. Memphis is shamelessly claiming everyone on the team is injured (yet still plays Gasol), and Josh Jackson has decided to shut himself down. What a cluster. Lottery reform can't come soon enough.
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Holy hell this is about the dumbest I've ever seen an NBA game played by both teams, especially in OT. Bullock has made several dumb, dumb errors that have cost Detroit buckets by the Raptors here in OT.
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Detroit got hosed down the stretch on a blatant charge by Derozan on the game-winning shot (go figure - more reffing incompetency and inconsistency), but Detroit gave this game away with their dumb, dumb decisions late in the 4th and OT.
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See no way Boston gets the one seed in the east. 2.5 games behind Toronto now. Going to have to beat both them and Cleveland to get out of the east
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Holy hell this is about the dumbest I've ever seen an NBA game played by both teams, especially in OT. Bullock has made several dumb, dumb errors that have cost Detroit buckets by the Raptors here in OT.
You're supposed to be tending to your family, not watching basketball.
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See no way Boston gets the one seed in the east. 2.5 games behind Toronto now. Going to have to beat both them and Cleveland to get out of the east
We still get to play them twice and they play OKC, Cavs, and Pacers. Any of those could be losses. We just have to win one more game than them then beat them twice. Its still possible.
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Won't matter as long as Toronto locks up #1, Boston locks up #2, and Cleveland locks up #4 if we were to avoid Cleveland until the ECF.
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Problem is that Toronto seem to have us figured out in the Brad Stevens era more so than most other teams. Gonna have to work out a better game plan to beat them and take the head to head match up.
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Problem is that Toronto seems to have us figured out in the Brad Stevens era more so than most other teams. Gonna have to work out a better game plan to beat them and take the head to head match up.
I don't see it as a problem. We have figured out them too. It is not like they surprise us when we play, or ever did. The harder part is to execute good enough to win.
One thing that is worth noting is that even though their bench is one of the better in the league, I believe that come playoffs they will shorten their rotation and that advantage will diminish greatly. When, on the other hand, Horford and Kyrie play 7-8 more minutes per game more, we would suddenly look much better (No Semi, no Nader and other "minus" players too. No Zeller this year!).
Toronto has its own well-recorded annual playoff "sins". They sinned long enough to exclude themselves from any superior confidence stance or any intimidation efforts. They do have the best team in 22 years of existence, good deep team, but they have a lot of explaining to do.
EDIT:
Toronto's Playoff GM1 results
2014: 1st round, BKN - Loss
2015: 1st round, WAS - Loss
2016: 1st round, IND - Loss
2nd round, MIA - Loss
EC finals, CLE - Loss
2017: 1st round, MIL - Loss
2018: ????????
If we beat them in the first game of the series (something that happened in their last 7 series if I'm not mistaking, the water level rises to their mouth height and it is choke-alert all over again in T.
To sum it up. We will make some new fossils this year. :D
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Holy hell this is about the dumbest I've ever seen an NBA game played by both teams, especially in OT. Bullock has made several dumb, dumb errors that have cost Detroit buckets by the Raptors here in OT.
You're supposed to be tending to your family, not watching basketball.
whats I say n too ! ;D
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What's up with the injuries tonight. Steph Curry rolled on his ankle and is out for the game.
Looks like the Spurs getting some perfect revenge in the Oracle this time around "how does it feel to lose your best player, eh Warriors"
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What's up with the injuries tonight. Steph Curry rolled on his ankle and is out for the game.
Looks like the Spurs getting some perfect revenge in the Oracle this time around "how does it feel to lose your best player, eh Warriors"
so you are the one who SPURred on the warriors. LOL
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What's up with the injuries tonight. Steph Curry rolled on his ankle and is out for the game.
Looks like the Spurs getting some perfect revenge in the Oracle this time around "how does it feel to lose your best player, eh Warriors"
so you are the one who SPURred on the warriors. LOL
Hahahaha omg. Always KD, huh.
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These Raptors are legit, at least in the regular season. Still need to see them be this legit in the playoffs when it matters, but they're going to be a tough out.
I think we can take them in a series if we're healthy, but I don't see us being able to take out both Cleveland and Toronto. We really need either Cleveland to fall to 4 or below or we need to win both of our remaining games against Toronto and hope they stumble in a couple of other games, too.
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Our old friend Crowder has been playing well in Utah. Good to see.
Edit: 4-6 from three right now.
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These Raptors are legit, at least in the regular season. Still need to see them be this legit in the playoffs when it matters, but they're going to be a tough out.
I think we can take them in a series if we're healthy, but I don't see us being able to take out both Cleveland and Toronto. We really need either Cleveland to fall to 4 or below or we need to win both of our remaining games against Toronto and hope they stumble in a couple of other games, too.
He won't get any burn with the Raptors' depth, but I noticed that they also just added Nigel Hayes. I know a lot of posters here liked him around draft time.
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Harden is simply an amazing iso player.
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I really want to punch Harden in the face. How could the league do nothing about his arm holding to draw fouls?
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Welp, two blown opportunities to gain some ground on the Raptors with them squeezing out one-possession wins the last two games. Still plenty of time left with us having two games left against them, but it's looking more and more likely that they'll stay in the one seed with us at the two seed.
Hopefully Cleveland can do us a solid and lose tonight.
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Welp, two blown opportunities to gain some ground on the Raptors with them squeezing out one-possession wins the last two games. Still plenty of time left with us having two games left against them, but it's looking more and more likely that they'll stay in the one seed with us at the two seed.
Hopefully Cleveland can do us a solid and lose tonight.
Potter you are a great fan
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Toronto just won't lose grrr
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Welp, two blown opportunities to gain some ground on the Raptors with them squeezing out one-possession wins the last two games. Still plenty of time left with us having two games left against them, but it's looking more and more likely that they'll stay in the one seed with us at the two seed.
Hopefully Cleveland can do us a solid and lose tonight.
Potter you are a great fan
(https://i.imgur.com/WfBKAhL.gif)
But seriously, having three young kids and living across the country from all of my family and friends to pursue a dream job, there's not much else for me to do in the winter than watch basketball in the frozen wasteland of Cleveland. lol
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These Raptors are legit, at least in the regular season. Still need to see them be this legit in the playoffs when it matters, but they're going to be a tough out.
I think we can take them in a series if we're healthy, but I don't see us being able to take out both Cleveland and Toronto. We really need either Cleveland to fall to 4 or below or we need to win both of our remaining games against Toronto and hope they stumble in a couple of other games, too.
Man 'o man imagine if the NBA Finals has to go across the border a few times.
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I really want to punch Harden in the face. How could the league do nothing about his arm holding to draw fouls?
"It's what the fans want!" :P
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Time to hold onto the two seed and rest guys. Don’t think they can catch the craptors
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Time to hold onto the two seed and rest guys. Don’t think they can catch the craptors
Still time left.
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Time to hold onto the two seed and rest guys. Don’t think they can catch the craptors
Still time left.
Exactly and we still have to play Raptors twice and they are only currently 2.5 ahead...it will all come down to who really cares about the one seed.
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Time to hold onto the two seed and rest guys. Don’t think they can catch the craptors
Still time left.
Exactly and we still have to play Raptors twice and they are only currently 2.5 ahead...it will all come down to who really cares about the one seed.
If Washington overtakes The Cavs for the three seed then it may be a fight for the two...
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Time to hold onto the two seed and rest guys. Don’t think they can catch the craptors
Still time left.
Exactly and we still have to play Raptors twice and they are only currently 2.5 ahead...it will all come down to who really cares about the one seed.
If Washington overtakes The Cavs for the three seed then it may be a fight for the two...
I don't mind. Last year's series was probably the most intense and competitive matchup in the playoffs.
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
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Boston can help themselves out even if the Pacers win Sunday...Cavs are .5 up on both them and the Wiz for third...
My ideal situation would be if the Raps finish one...they have to go through the Cavs in round 2 while Boston at 2 gets either Wiz/Pacers...
I just don't see Boston getting to #1...but I do think they match up fine with the Cavs if it comes to that.
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
thats role players as opposed to stars . Role player will have a great game one night , maybe two then suck out loud . Avery Bradley was master of this inconsistent offense output . Now other than Bron and love , they have like four AB s with mediocre defense. Thats not winning a series against teams like Rockets or Warriors or even Celtics.
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
thats role players as opposed to stars . Role player will have a great game one night , maybe two then suck out loud . Avery Bradley was master of this inconsistent offense output . Now other than Bron and love , they have like four AB s with mediocre defense. Thats not winning a series against teams like Rockets or Warriors or even Celtics.
The overreaction to the cavs adding the role players is easily top 5 overreactions on this forum all time
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
thats role players as opposed to stars . Role player will have a great game one night , maybe two then suck out loud . Avery Bradley was master of this inconsistent offense output . Now other than Bron and love , they have like four AB s with mediocre defense. Thats not winning a series against teams like Rockets or Warriors or even Celtics.
The overreaction to the cavs adding the role players is easily top 5 overreactions on this forum all time
Yep, they traded away an all-star and several draft picks to add role players and take on long term salaries. In fairness though, the overreactions were driven in part by the media hype, particularly ESPN but also others, who made it sound as if the Cavs acquired 3 all-stars for a pile of poop.
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
thats role players as opposed to stars . Role player will have a great game one night , maybe two then suck out loud . Avery Bradley was master of this inconsistent offense output . Now other than Bron and love , they have like four AB s with mediocre defense. Thats not winning a series against teams like Rockets or Warriors or even Celtics.
The overreaction to the cavs adding the role players is easily top 5 overreactions on this forum all time
Yep, they traded away an all-star and several draft picks to add role players and take on long term salaries. In fairness though, the overreactions were driven in part by the media hype, particularly ESPN but also others, who made it sound as if the Cavs acquired 3 all-stars for a pile of poop.
Gotta agree with this. The hype was really driven nationally on ESPN and NBATV and their digital media outlets.
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Bad loss by the cavs tonight. They were never really in it
thats role players as opposed to stars . Role player will have a great game one night , maybe two then suck out loud . Avery Bradley was master of this inconsistent offense output . Now other than Bron and love , they have like four AB s with mediocre defense. Thats not winning a series against teams like Rockets or Warriors or even Celtics.
The overreaction to the cavs adding the role players is easily top 5 overreactions on this forum all time
Yep, they traded away an all-star and several draft picks to add role players and take on long term salaries. In fairness though, the overreactions were driven in part by the media hype, particularly ESPN but also others, who made it sound as if the Cavs acquired 3 all-stars for a pile of poop.
A former All-Star who certainly hasn't played like one this season, and probably won't ever reach that level again.
Nance and Clarkson have objectively been more productive this season than Thomas.
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There were only 2 Cavs with a plus rating last night in that horrible loss to Clippers. Jeff Green and Zizic 8) -
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Anthony Davis had an interesting game today:
25 points, 11 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, 10 BLOCKS
I can't take it anymore.
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With several bigs out, Cleveland just has nobody with the size to deal with Lopez and Randle down low.
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With several bigs out, Cleveland just has nobody with the size to deal with Lopez and Randle down low.
Let's hope the Lakers can keep it up in the 2nd half. When I turned it on, they were up by 10, but the lead dwindled down to 2 pretty quickly. Nice way to finish up the half, though.
Btw, super-annoying to be cheering on the Lakers, but the Cavs officially fall to 4th tonight with a loss and that is in our best interest regardless of how poorly they look right now. With our luck, Philly and Washington will also pass the Cavs in the standings and we will still play them in the 2nd round :P
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Mi will be shocked if he doesn't leave at end of season. They have nothing. Love helps a little, but he would be the 5th best player on the warriors and 3rd best player on a healthy Celtics team (maybe 4th next year)
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
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IT cooking the Cavs right now! Sweet to watch
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Thomas just giving it to Cleveland
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IT cooking the Cavs right now! Sweet to watch
I think he is the only Laker i have ever cheered for
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IT cooking the Cavs right now! Sweet to watch
Cavs now alone in 4th. Half game out of losing home court in first round. Woof. Two weeks certain delusional fans were saying they were going to go 18-5 or something in th second half
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
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Lol Lakers pummeling the Cavs now, and they'll be in 4th place after tonight.
That Pacers loss tonight is looking more and more beneficial given the context of what it has led to now ;D
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The third best player on this Cavs team might be Larry Nance Jr. lol
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
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I can't believe the Lakers are blowing out the Cavs
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Julius Randle is a BEAST.
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Randle went batty tonight, but IT was right behind him at +18. Do you like apples, LBJ?
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Hey, alright, the Not-Cavs won tonight against the Cavs!
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Randle went batty tonight, but IT was right behind him at +18. Do you like apples, LBJ?
They can't taste good this evenjng
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
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I can see the Lakers going 13-3 down the stretch of their remaining games.
43-39 Probably doesn't get them in though. Nuggs, Clips and Jazz would all have to play .500 or worse for that to happen.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
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Are the Lakers finally becoming relevant again? The Celtics/Lakers rivalry about to heat up once more, step aside wannabes aka Warriors/Rockets/OKC/Pelicans/Blazers/Wolves ;D
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
And yet, every year we see that happen. We can just wait until the offseason and then you'll be proven wrong. What else are those bottom teams going to spend their money on?
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
And yet, every year we see that happen. We can just wait until the offseason and then you'll be proven wrong. What else are those bottom teams going to spend their money on?
Still got to sell tickets. Like we did in IT's career season. Teams will want that. He could get a short deal for more than mid level, but 1-2 years only. Nobody's committing their future cap to IT.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
And yet, every year we see that happen. We can just wait until the offseason and then you'll be proven wrong. What else are those bottom teams going to spend their money on?
I look forward to being proven wrong when bad teams splurge on rotation players, and I'm looking forward to being proven right when that turns out to be the worst strategy in running a franchise. Orlando stupidly invested in the wrong guys and look where it got them.
To answer your question, instead of splurging on guys who only get in the way of re-building, it's more likely that bad teams with cap space will absorb bad contracts from another team looking to avoid the tax as long as they get first rounders back. Philly did that for years, and it helped them stay bad. Now their patience is beginning to pay off. Teams will see that and incorporate the same strategy.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
And yet, every year we see that happen. We can just wait until the offseason and then you'll be proven wrong. What else are those bottom teams going to spend their money on?
I look forward to being proven wrong when bad teams splurge on rotation players, and I'm looking forward to being proven right when that turns out to be the worst strategy in running a franchise. Orlando stupidly invested in the wrong guys and look where it got them.
To answer your question, instead of splurging on guys who only get in the way of re-building, it's more likely that bad teams with cap space will absorb bad contracts from another team looking to avoid the tax as long as they get first rounders back. Philly did that for years, and it helped them stay bad. Now their patience is beginning to pay off. Teams will see that and incorporate the same strategy.
Ok, so you agree with me. And I never said it was a good idea. I just said it's what always happens. Bad teams will chase those free agents with their money because they don't have anything else to spend it on. But that doesn't mean I think it's a good move, it just means the Lakers won't be able to bring all those guys back on 1 year deals.
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Cavs are really not very good. Lebron and the pips at this point
Even though I hate them, the Lakeshow's energy and youth make them a very fun team to watch. Even if they don't get Lebron/PG13 next season, they should be in the playoff mix. That is of course if they keep the guys who are going to be free agents.
I really don't think they will. Even if they don't get a max guy or 2 this summer, I think they'll save that space for 2019 and go for it again next year. That's basically what Magic has said they are going to do. I think all or most of IT, Randle, Lopez, and Caldwell Pope are gone next season.
So what's to stop them from giving big one year deals (like what they gave KCP) to those guys sans Randle in case they miss out on those max guys? Lakers are one of the few teams that have cap room to do that. I could also see them re-signing Randle and then just trading him in case a superstar does sign with them. The cap crunch benefits them a lot with restricted free agency and he's been phenomenal for them lately.
I could also see them trading Deng along with the Cavs pick this year to a team like Sacramento for Iman Shumpert and Kosta Koufos to open up even more cap room next season.
The Lakers have a lot of options at their disposal. If it weren't for the Celtics being in a much better position than them going forward, I'd be kinda jealous.
I don't think those guys are looking for 1 year deals. Maybe Lopez, but not Randle, IT, and KCP.
You do know about cap crunch, right? That practically nobody has money this off-season to spend, which hurts every free agent this year that's not a star?
Yes, those guys would prefer not to sign 1 year deals, but their market is pretty tiny because again, hardly anyone in the league has the money to give them what they would want, and the ones that have the cap room won't want to pay top dollar for IT, KCP, or Lopez. The most they can look forward to on the open market is 6-8 million per. The Lakers are one of the few teams that can offer a high salary even if its one year.
And I already said sans Randle, who I think the Lakers should re-sign if they miss out on their primary targets. The cap crunch screws over restricted free agents the most. Randle, despite how well he's played, is no exception.
I think it would be hard not to accept a one-year deal worth 16-20 million in this market. That way, you can prove that you are worth a bigger deal in the future and better teams will probably work to have the open cap room for next season.
There are plenty of teams with money to spend. IT, KCP, and Randle will all have a market, plus the Lakers are going to be busy going after Lebron and Paul George. If the Lakers miss out, they will probably sign a couple guys of 1 year, high money deals, but it won't be with those guys.
No, there aren't. Read this.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22263630/nba-financial-crunch-coming
"With half the league in the tax or in danger of going into the tax, many teams won't spend the full $8.8 million and instead will opt for the "taxpayer midlevel" of $5.4 million."
The only teams that will have significant cap room are Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, Dallas, Lakers, Philly, and Phoenix. I anticipate Indiana will also be in the mix when they opt out of Al Jefferson's contract and will possibly do the same with Lance Stephenson.
Only Philly, LA, and Indiana are teams that should be players in free agency. The others are rebuilding, so they won't spend money on any of the Lakers free agents because they'll get in the way.
I'm not saying those guys don't deserve long-term contracts worth 10-15 million per. I'm just saying it won't happen. Would you rather sign a 2-3 year deal worth 5 million per or sign a 1 year deal worth 15-20 million and get more money when everyone else in the league has the cap room to hand out large contracts?
That's several teams. Not only is it possible, but I would expect those bottom teams to chase guys like IT and Randle and give them solid deals. That's exactly what I would expect from a bad team who has money to spend, but can't attract a star.
So.... the league's bottom dwellers want to use their cap room on guys who are just going to make them mediocre at best? That makes no sense. If you can't lure a star via free agency, then the better strategy would be to try to find one in the draft lottery by tanking. Adding a guy like IT or Randle only gets in the way of that.
And yet, every year we see that happen. We can just wait until the offseason and then you'll be proven wrong. What else are those bottom teams going to spend their money on?
I look forward to being proven wrong when bad teams splurge on rotation players, and I'm looking forward to being proven right when that turns out to be the worst strategy in running a franchise. Orlando stupidly invested in the wrong guys and look where it got them.
To answer your question, instead of splurging on guys who only get in the way of re-building, it's more likely that bad teams with cap space will absorb bad contracts from another team looking to avoid the tax as long as they get first rounders back. Philly did that for years, and it helped them stay bad. Now their patience is beginning to pay off. Teams will see that and incorporate the same strategy.
Ok, so you agree with me. And I never said it was a good idea. I just said it's what always happens. Bad teams will chase those free agents with their money because they don't have anything else to spend it on. But that doesn't mean I think it's a good move, it just means the Lakers won't be able to bring all those guys back on 1 year deals.
It's not that I necessarily agree with you. It's that even if they prove me wrong, they're proving that they're stupid if they do.
Here's the thing, the franchises that are both tanking and have money to spend aren't as stupid as New York and Sacramento. Those teams splurged on guys that they didn't need to spend excess money on last summer, but neither team has cap room this summer. The teams that do have cap room I believe won't be as careless.
As I alluded to earlier, I think it's more likely that they'll take on bad contracts so they can absorb picks while tanking in the near future. I believe this because that's what Philly did and it looks like it's working out. Giving long-term money to any of those Lakers free agents only hurts their tanking game and I think they know that, but I don't speak for them.
We'll just have to see.
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The Spurs are washed-up. They're done. Get blown out by Rockets tonight, fall to #10 seed.
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It would be concerning if the Cavs fall to #7 seed, and the Celtics have to host them in round 1 lol....
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It would be concerning if the Cavs fall to #7 seed, and the Celtics have to host them in round 1 lol...
We were the last team that sent LeBron away from home.
I would like very much for us to repeat that feat this year.
That said, I want us to play the Cavs this year. And when you know that, any round is good.
For example, you beat him/them in the 1st round and you got a 1st class sensation, energizing the whole franchise and fanbase. Round 2 next.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
It could work either way. Let's say they LOSE to the Cavs in a 1 vs. 8 matchup, after the best season in their franchise history. I can't see the fan base ever recovering from that.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
It could work either way. Let's say they LOSE to the Cavs in a 1 vs. 8 matchup, after the best season in their franchise history. I can't see the fan base ever recovering from that.
Ah, we've had only a few 1 vs 8 matchups where the 8 seed won. The most recent being the 76ers upsetting that Bulls team in that shortened, compressed season as far as I can remember.
I hope that's not LBJ's new goal, trying to sneak into the NBA Finals as a 7/8 seed because he's just bored so his team is sucking on purpose lol. That's very 2K-like. Regardless, cannot take them lightly.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
Well, we all know Lue wont' (can't) rest Lebron if Lebron wants to play. It's all on Lebron in the end, he makes the decisions.
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It could work either way. Let's say they LOSE to the Cavs in a 1 vs. 8 matchup, after the best season in their franchise history. I can't see the fan base ever recovering from that.
That's the scenario I was suggesting.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
I don't think much of this Cavs team, but the Raps are still vulnerable, in my eyes.
Deep teams that win a lot of games on the strength of youth and a strong bench tend to do worse in the playoffs.
Core stars tend to revert to their basic instincts in the playoffs when the going gets tough.
The Raptors still don't have anybody with the size and experience to hound LeBron 40+ minutes a game for seven games. Siakam, Ibaka, Poeltl, and Anunoby might be able to collectively make him work to get interior baskets, but that would entail using a lot of low-offense lineups without Valanciunas.
By all means, I think the Raptors would be and should be favored against the Cavs, but a team of LeBron + shooters can bust this Raps squad.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
I don't think much of this Cavs team, but the Raps are still vulnerable, in my eyes.
Deep teams that win a lot of games on the strength of youth and a strong bench tend to do worse in the playoffs.
Core stars tend to revert to their basic instincts in the playoffs when the going gets tough.
The Raptors still don't have anybody with the size and experience to hound LeBron 40+ minutes a game for seven games. Siakam, Ibaka, Poeltl, and Anunoby might be able to collectively make him work to get interior baskets, but that would entail using a lot of low-offense lineups without Valanciunas.
By all means, I think the Raptors would be and should be favored against the Cavs, but a team of LeBron + shooters can bust this Raps squad.
I think Derozen has really made a jump by adding that three point shot which really changes their whole dynamic. He isn't just taking like 1 a game either. This really isn't the same as past raptors teams.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
I don't think much of this Cavs team, but the Raps are still vulnerable, in my eyes.
Deep teams that win a lot of games on the strength of youth and a strong bench tend to do worse in the playoffs.
Core stars tend to revert to their basic instincts in the playoffs when the going gets tough.
The Raptors still don't have anybody with the size and experience to hound LeBron 40+ minutes a game for seven games. Siakam, Ibaka, Poeltl, and Anunoby might be able to collectively make him work to get interior baskets, but that would entail using a lot of low-offense lineups without Valanciunas.
By all means, I think the Raptors would be and should be favored against the Cavs, but a team of LeBron + shooters can bust this Raps squad.
I think Derozen has really made a jump by adding that three point shot which really changes their whole dynamic. He isn't just taking like 1 a game either. This really isn't the same as past raptors teams.
Derozan's only shooting 31% on those attempts, though (i.e. less than 1 point per shot), and that's before he encounters playoff level defense. He only shoots 30% on corner threes.
Historically his free throw rate goes down significantly in the playoffs, as well. He's still very reliant on free throws to make up for his overall inefficiency outside of 3 feet.
The biggest change in DeMar's game, as I see it, is his improved playmaking. But his younger teammates need to make shots in order for that to carry over.
I would also say that if the Raps do indeed carry over their increased focus on three pointers, that will open them up to get trucked on the boards and in transition by lineups featuring Bron, Love, and Thompson/Nance, as has happened in the past.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
I don't think much of this Cavs team, but the Raps are still vulnerable, in my eyes.
Deep teams that win a lot of games on the strength of youth and a strong bench tend to do worse in the playoffs.
Core stars tend to revert to their basic instincts in the playoffs when the going gets tough.
The Raptors still don't have anybody with the size and experience to hound LeBron 40+ minutes a game for seven games. Siakam, Ibaka, Poeltl, and Anunoby might be able to collectively make him work to get interior baskets, but that would entail using a lot of low-offense lineups without Valanciunas.
By all means, I think the Raptors would be and should be favored against the Cavs, but a team of LeBron + shooters can bust this Raps squad.
I think Derozen has really made a jump by adding that three point shot which really changes their whole dynamic. He isn't just taking like 1 a game either. This really isn't the same as past raptors teams.
Derozan's only shooting 31% on those attempts, though (i.e. less than 1 point per shot), and that's before he encounters playoff level defense. He only shoots 30% on corner threes.
Historically his free throw rate goes down significantly in the playoffs, as well. He's still very reliant on free throws to make up for his overall inefficiency outside of 3 feet.
The biggest change in DeMar's game, as I see it, is his improved playmaking. But his younger teammates need to make shots in order for that to carry over.
I would also say that if the Raps do indeed carry over their increased focus on three pointers, that will open them up to get trucked on the boards and in transition by lineups featuring Bron, Love, and Thompson/Nance, as has happened in the past.
Do you think the Cavs will really play Thompson, Lebron and Love together much? Love has really lost some athleticism the last couple of years with his back injuries and I can't imagine his conditioning is going to be amazing coming off an extended absence. The Raptors are only going to play Jonas some minutes I would think.
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so, the cavs 2 game honey-moon has worn off and now they are back to being a poor team. except this time with less talent.
looking at the standings, cavs could end up anywhere from #3 - #7. they are 1 loss away from dropping to #5
It's too bad the c's are so banged up this year. This could've been our year
Actually they could fall to #8 seed. The 7 and 8 seed (Heat and Bucks) are currently tied.
It would be such a Raptors way for the Raptors to end the best season of their franchise's history if the Cavs fell to the 8th seed and then beat them in the 1st round.
I just have a hard time seeing the Cavs beat the Raptors. They are playing amazing basketball with young guy filling out their rotation that provide some needed athleticism and Demar playing MVP level basketball. I also think the Cavs will be most vulnerable in the first round because they will still be in their first weeks of trying to get Love to play with all the new guys. I am curious if Lue is going to give Lebron any games off. Lue has made bizarre comments referencing how much people played in the 80's and 90's to excuse Lebron's age and minutes. I think I have also read that Lebron wants to play all games as a point of pride and to win MVP (that ship has sailed at this point though) . Both guys being stubborn about that could also cost them in postseason.
I don't think much of this Cavs team, but the Raps are still vulnerable, in my eyes.
Deep teams that win a lot of games on the strength of youth and a strong bench tend to do worse in the playoffs.
Core stars tend to revert to their basic instincts in the playoffs when the going gets tough.
The Raptors still don't have anybody with the size and experience to hound LeBron 40+ minutes a game for seven games. Siakam, Ibaka, Poeltl, and Anunoby might be able to collectively make him work to get interior baskets, but that would entail using a lot of low-offense lineups without Valanciunas.
By all means, I think the Raptors would be and should be favored against the Cavs, but a team of LeBron + shooters can bust this Raps squad.
I think Derozen has really made a jump by adding that three point shot which really changes their whole dynamic. He isn't just taking like 1 a game either. This really isn't the same as past raptors teams.
Derozan's only shooting 31% on those attempts, though (i.e. less than 1 point per shot), and that's before he encounters playoff level defense. He only shoots 30% on corner threes.
Historically his free throw rate goes down significantly in the playoffs, as well. He's still very reliant on free throws to make up for his overall inefficiency outside of 3 feet.
The biggest change in DeMar's game, as I see it, is his improved playmaking. But his younger teammates need to make shots in order for that to carry over.
I would also say that if the Raps do indeed carry over their increased focus on three pointers, that will open them up to get trucked on the boards and in transition by lineups featuring Bron, Love, and Thompson/Nance, as has happened in the past.
Do you think the Cavs will really play Thompson, Lebron and Love together much? Love has really lost some athleticism the last couple of years with his back injuries and I can't imagine his conditioning is going to be amazing coming off an extended absence. The Raptors are only going to play Jonas some minutes I would think.
Maybe Nance instead of Thompson, but yeah, I think they will.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
Cavs fans were already commenting that Nance looks warn down compared to when he first arrived. Think Lue does a poor job managing rotations and matchups and basically anything a coach should do.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
If that's the case, then the Cavs really aren't going to be making that much noise in the playoffs... Nance was the clear cut better player in every aspects besides rebounding, and the numbers really aren't that far beyond each other to compensate the minuscule difference... Nance should've started the moment he came onto the Cavs hardwood floors... Thompson is just not that good... He's better off building his momentum and rhythm feasting against 2nd units, and getting himself going.
Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
Cavs fans were already commenting that Nance looks warn down compared to when he first arrived. Think Lue does a poor job managing rotations and matchups and basically anything a coach should do.
I take Scott Brooks over Lue, but that's putting it lightly.
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Like, how do you not know this about your own player that has been on the team for over a few weeks now?
Nance also became the first Cavs player besides James or Love with 20-plus points and 15-plus rebounds since Thompson did it more than four years ago (Feb. 2, 2014), according to ESPN Stats & Information.
Nance went 3-for-5 on jump shots from 17 feet or beyond against the Pistons, surprising his new team.
"I didn't know he could shoot it," Lue said. "He never shot it in L.A. But coming here, just watching him shoot, he has 3-point range also, which I didn't know. If he can continue to make that shot, it helps our offense out tremendously."
James said Nance's ability diversifies the offense.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
Cavs fans were already commenting that Nance looks warn down compared to when he first arrived. Think Lue does a poor job managing rotations and matchups and basically anything a coach should do.
I agree, I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if he's waiting to use the lineup he thinks is best until the playoffs.
Not saying he's a good coach or that doing so will even work.
Anyway, I'm not trying to defend the Cavs here, I just think the Raps remain vulnerable.
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Nance at the 5 over Thompson should've been a no-brainer after the trade occurred. Clearly, that hasn't been the case.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lue is pulling his punches until the playoffs. He's not a devious coach but that is the sort of thing he (and Bron) seem to like to do.
Lue isnt really a coach. he is a puppet for Lebron. most likely he just has no idea what he is doing.
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Towns is DESTROYING the Wizards right now
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Another big win for Indiana tonight. This probably puts Philly out of contention for the 3 seed.
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Another big win for Indiana tonight. This probably puts Philly out of contention for the 3 seed.
I would love a 2nd round match up with Indiana. Let Cleveland and Toronto go off on each other and wear down before the ECF.
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Another big win for Indiana tonight. This probably puts Philly out of contention for the 3 seed.
check out their schedule though
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Another big win for Indiana tonight. This probably puts Philly out of contention for the 3 seed.
check out their schedule though
The two Warriors games and two Raptors games are a little concerning, but the last two games were probably losses for them and they won both of them.
The Cavs also have two games against the Raptors so they kind-of cancel each other out. I agree that it isn't necessarily likely Indy takes the 3 seed and that Philly has/had an easier path, but we just need to hope one of them or the Wiz can overtake the Cavs.
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Another big win for Indiana tonight. This probably puts Philly out of contention for the 3 seed.
check out their schedule though
The two Warriors games and two Raptors games are a little concerning, but the last two games were probably losses for them and they won both of them.
The Cavs also have two games against the Raptors so they kind-of cancel each other out. I agree that it isn't necessarily likely Indy takes the 3 seed and that Philly has/had an easier path, but we just need to hope one of them or the Wiz can overtake the Cavs.
oh actually i was thinking maybe both indy and philly could finish higher than the cavs, although would toronto purposely lose to cavs to keep them out of their bracket? hmmmmm
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Detroit looks good against Utah.
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Literally every team not making it into the Eastern Conference playoffs lost tonight. The tank is strong in the East.
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Detroit looks good against Utah.
Uh, was this intentional sarcasm?
Detroit got smoked, like pretty much right out of the gate.
Also, Joe Ingles is a bad mofo.
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Detroit looks good against Utah.
Uh, was this intentional sarcasm?
Detroit got smoked, like pretty much right out of the gate.
Also, Joe Ingles is a bad mofo.
Yeah, they were down like 40 at the time. Pretty absurd. Maybe they'll #FreeHenry
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Over the last four games, Lonzo Ball has shot 28.5% from the field, 13% from 3 and 20% from the line on 5 attempts yet it's funny, you hear nothing about this from the media.
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Lowry might legitimately complain about every single call. It's so annoying watching him whine about every little thing that doesn't go his way.
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Something tells me we're not facing Indiana in the second round...
https://twitter.com/Pacers/status/974461929996636160
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Something tells me we're not facing Indiana in the second round...
https://twitter.com/Pacers/status/974461929996636160
What's it say?
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Something tells me we're not facing Indiana in the second round...
https://twitter.com/Pacers/status/974461929996636160
What's it say?
Coach McMillan says Myles Turner has a high ankle sprain. “There was a lot of swelling at halftime. Tried to go. Came out third quarter and was able to play. Reaggravated it and couldn’t return.”
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Cavs third straight loss out west. Do they finish 6th?
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Cavs third straight loss out west. Do they finish 6th?
They might even face Boston in round 1. Or get an easy playoff win against the injury-riddled Pacers.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
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Are the Cavs trying to wear out Lebron before playoffs? 41 min in the loss.
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Are the Cavs trying to wear out Lebron before playoffs? 41 min in the loss.
I saw LeBron barking at Tyron Lue earlier, and even made Lue sit down on the bench lulz.
"I'm sorry, coach." - Tyron Lue
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
Cavs would not have made the playoffs out west this year.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
Hope the Jazz can give the Warriors fits in the playoffs. I don't want their #1 and #2 seed to sweep their way to the WCF.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
Turns out that Turner contract wasn't as awful as it seemed. He has been super solid for them.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
Turns out that Turner contract wasn't as awful as it seemed. He has been super solid for them.
Solid, but nothing special. 8 / 3 / 2 on mediocre efficiency.
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Cavs really are not a good basketball team. They have no chemistry and seem to hate the coaching. Lebron is doing what he wants to do and not playing within their system.
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Portland riding on that 11-game winning streak. They are red hot right now.
Yeah, the Blazers are rolling right now.
And so are the Jazz, who have won 8 consecutive games themselves, and are 21-4 in their last 25 games.
Turns out that Turner contract wasn't as awful as it seemed. He has been super solid for them.
Solid, but nothing special. 8 / 3 / 2 on mediocre efficiency.
Yeah, those numbers are $4-5 million a year solid. For $18 million a year, those numbers suck.
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Philly might just make it to the number three seed. In fact, I’m calling it right now that they do.
Of their remaining 17 games, only 3 (!) are against current playoff teams, all three are played in Philly, and they’re not even against the elite teams of each conference (vs MIN without Butler, vs the struggling CAVS, and vs Milwaukee the last game of the season, meaning probably resting players). What’s more, 10 of the 17 remaining games are in Philly, and 10 of them are against bottom-10 teams.
That’s amazing how easy that schedule is down the stretch.
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Philly might just make it to the number three seed. In fact, I’m calling it right now that they do.
Of their remaining 17 games, only 3 (!) are against current playoff teams, all three are played in Philly, and they’re not even against the elite teams of each conference (vs MIN without Butler, vs the struggling CAVS, and vs Milwaukee the last game of the season, meaning probably resting players). What’s more, 10 of the 17 remaining games are in Philly, and 10 of them are against bottom-10 teams.
That’s amazing how easy that schedule is down the stretch.
Yea I think they have a solid chance for sure. I think that actually says more about how uneven the east is (and how badly teams have been ravaged by injuries) than necessarily how great they are. They have the ability to beat the good teams on some nights, but the last couple of times they have played even mid-tier playoff teams they have lost (1-5 in last 6 games against +.500 teams). Healthy Washington and Cleveland should definitely be above them, and the Bucks have underachieved all season. That being said I really am not scared of them (provided we have Horford, Brown, Smart, Irving, Tatum healthy) in the playoffs this year because of their turnovers problems. That will absolutely crush them in playoff games. Next year I would definitely be scared of them, although I am not sure Brett Brown is the coach to get them to the next level.
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If the Cs weren't hurt, there isn't a team I would worry about in the East. Only Toronto and Cleveland could be the Cs but I wouldn't worry about matchups and would like our chances of going to the Finals.
Hurt as much as we are, just hold onto the 2nd seed and hope and pray we aren't too busted up that we don't make it out of the 1st round.
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If the Cs weren't hurt, there isn't a team I would worry about in the East. Only Toronto and Cleveland could be the Cs but I wouldn't worry about matchups and would like our chances of going to the Finals.
Hurt as much as we are, just hold onto the 2nd seed and hope and pray we aren't too busted up that we don't make it out of the 1st round.
I think Toronto is legit this year... would love to see us play them full strength. Cleveland isn't in the same tier as those two teams right now.
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NBA officiating is such a joke. Derozan just threw his body into Powell off of a jump shot pumpfake, yet Powell got the foul without even leaving his feet. Pure “reputation” and “star” call that the ref didn’t even see but just assumed because it was Derozan.
Of course it was Lauren Holtkamp, too ::)
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Durant with fractured ribs after getting an MRI. He's going to be out at least a few more weeks.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/974824763054088192
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Cleveland has a conundrum. They can either beat Chicago to help their chase for the third seed, or they can let Chicago win to help that Nets pick since Brooklyn is about to beat Dallas.
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Cleveland has a conundrum. They can either beat Chicago to help their chase for the third seed, or they can let Chicago win to help that Nets pick since Brooklyn is about to beat Dallas.
Considering Lebron doesn't care about the pick, there's no conundrum.
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
I would actually love to see San Antonio stay as a 7-8 seed and get back Kawhi in time for a series against the Warriors.
THAT... would make it a VERY intriguing playoffs and 1st round IMHO. (So long as Zaza doesn't get in the way again) :laugh:
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
I would actually love to see San Antonio stay as a 7-8 seed and get back Kawhi in time for a series against the Warriors.
THAT... would make it a VERY intriguing playoffs and 1st round IMHO. (So long as Zaza doesn't get in the way again) :laugh:
Hasn't Kawhi basically ended his season with SA?
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
I would actually love to see San Antonio stay as a 7-8 seed and get back Kawhi in time for a series against the Warriors.
THAT... would make it a VERY intriguing playoffs and 1st round IMHO. (So long as Zaza doesn't get in the way again) :laugh:
Hasn't Kawhi basically ended his season with SA?
Don't think anything's official, but yeah it's a little strange what's going on over there.
Kawhi to me seems like someone who would want to be out there to help his team even if he's not 100%, which makes the whole thing seem bizarre IMO.
Either the injury is A LOT worse than the Spurs are letting on, or there's tension.
I'm still assuming he comes back, but it probably has to be sometime in the next few weeks.
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
I would actually love to see San Antonio stay as a 7-8 seed and get back Kawhi in time for a series against the Warriors.
THAT... would make it a VERY intriguing playoffs and 1st round IMHO. (So long as Zaza doesn't get in the way again) :laugh:
Hasn't Kawhi basically ended his season with SA?
Don't think anything's official, but yeah it's a little strange what's going on over there.
Kawhi to me seems like someone who would want to be out there to help his team even if he's not 100%, which makes the whole thing seem bizarre IMO.
Either the injury is A LOT worse than the Spurs are letting on, or there's tension.
I'm still assuming he comes back, but it probably has to be sometime in the next few weeks.
If he comes back on the last week of the season, he would be ineffective for the playoffs.
And the Warriors will take great pleasure in dispatching him and the Spurs, unfortunately lol.
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Dang, Spurs playing their best against the Warriors all year this season. 20-9 run this 1st quarter.
EDIT: Warriors without 3 of their Big 4. Figures lol. But they still got the dirty cheapshot artists Zaza Pachulia and Draymond Green out on the floor.
I would actually love to see San Antonio stay as a 7-8 seed and get back Kawhi in time for a series against the Warriors.
THAT... would make it a VERY intriguing playoffs and 1st round IMHO. (So long as Zaza doesn't get in the way again) :laugh:
Hasn't Kawhi basically ended his season with SA?
Don't think anything's official, but yeah it's a little strange what's going on over there.
Kawhi to me seems like someone who would want to be out there to help his team even if he's not 100%, which makes the whole thing seem bizarre IMO.
Either the injury is A LOT worse than the Spurs are letting on, or there's tension.
I'm still assuming he comes back, but it probably has to be sometime in the next few weeks.
If he comes back on the last week of the season, he would be ineffective for the playoffs.
And the Warriors will take great pleasure in dispatching him and the Spurs, unfortunately lol.
Kind of off topic, but if Kawhi truly is frustrated with the Spurs and they take some "initial calls" on him, do you think Danny makes a call?
I'd hate the idea of losing Brown and/or Tatum in any deal though... and it just seems too risky.
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Kind of off topic, but if Kawhi truly is frustrated with the Spurs and they take some "initial calls" on him, do you think Danny makes a call?
I'd hate the idea of losing Brown and/or Tatum in any deal though... and it just seems too risky.
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With Danny anything is possible. But I think I'm content moving forward with Brown/Tatum/Hayward. The wing position is solid.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
I do think green is overrated. He would be just another guy on magic or a lot of other teams.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
Drastically overrated. Gets away with murder on the court
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
Drastically overrated. Gets away with murder on the court
Yet whines to the refs even more than LeBron. Seriously cannot stand this guy. One of the most unlikable players in the league IMO.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
I do think green is overrated. He would be just another guy on magic or a lot of other teams.
This is what I see in this guy. He's a great role player. Poseyesque. But no all star. He proved better than David Lee, who he beat out when Lee was injured. The team worked with him out there with the stars because he naturally does the dirty work, as it suits his nature.
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
Yes.
They're roleplayers who happened to fall into situations that suit their skillsets perfectly. Rondo was the right guy at the right time. But he wasn't a star. Same with Draymond.
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I would take Draymond on this team in a heartbeat.
Kyrie
Brown
Hayward
Green
Horford
Rozier
Smart
Tatum
Morris
Theis
God I'ld love that team. That team is winning multiple chips.
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Lol poetic justice. Draymond Green got hit in the groin by Danny Green. Looks like Draymond Green is done for the night.
Warriors Big 4 all injured. The last starter standing? Zaza Pachulia. It would be a shame if...something were to happen to him in this particular game tonight in San Antonio's house.
Done for the night? That must have been some hit!
He was in some serious pain, but he was able to walk off on his own power. Looks like pelvic contusion.
He's who I thought he was...an overrated bum without his superstar teammates, 0 points and 3 rebounds. Always bashing on PP34 and his retirement lol.
Drastically overrated. Gets away with murder on the court
Yet whines to the refs even more than LeBron. Seriously cannot stand this guy. One of the most unlikable players in the league IMO.
I lost respect for him after football-tackling our guys in that Celtics @ Warriors 2016 game where the Celtics inflicted their first home loss of the season in April (then again, he has a rep of hitting other players in the groin and such too). Then I started hating him when he goes around dissing Paul Pierce. At least PP34 is a future HoFer unlike this bum.
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I would take Draymond on this team in a heartbeat.
Kyrie
Brown
Hayward
Green
Horford
Rozier
Smart
Tatum
Morris
Theis
God I'ld love that team. That team is winning multiple chips.
Sure, having Green as your 7th most important player would be great.
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
yea that is certainly possible, especially since Rondo never made an all-star team not on the Celtics...
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The first 3 mins of Wizards/Spurs is one of the worst things I have ever seen... I thought Celtics offense could be cringeworthy
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WOW!! Kemba Walker with a 35 point 1st half!
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
yea that is certainly possible, especially since Rondo never made an all-star team not on the Celtics...
Being an all-star is overrated, imo. You have Kyle Korver, Jamal Magloire and Roy Hibbert making it in the team.
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Hornets up 120-59 over the Grizz. Geez!
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Hornets up 120-59 over the Grizz. Geez!
They doubled up their score. That is crazy.
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Hornets up 120-59 over the Grizz. Geez!
They doubled up their score. That is crazy.
Memphis is an embarrassment and I wouldn't be upset if silver told them to not make a mockery of the league
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
yea that is certainly possible, especially since Rondo never made an all-star team not on the Celtics...
Being an all-star is overrated, imo. You have Kyle Korver, Jamal Magloire and Roy Hibbert making it in the team.
Yeah but rondo made a couple right? There are a lot less bad players that made a few (although I guess it is possible hibbert did without looking, he had a weird career arc )
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Hornets up 120-59 over the Grizz. Geez!
They doubled up their score. That is crazy.
Memphis is an embarrassment and I wouldn't be upset if silver told them to not make a mockery of the league
139-77. Wow
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Hornets up 120-59 over the Grizz. Geez!
They doubled up their score. That is crazy.
Memphis is an embarrassment and I wouldn't be upset if silver told them to not make a mockery of the league
You were right recently that tanking has reached an all-time low.
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Man how to do you lose by 60 to a sub-.500 team. That's shameful.
Should demote Memphis to the G league. They'd fit right in.
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Wow Kemba was absolutely killing them. This game was 9 scrubs, and Kemba Walker playing out there. My celticblog trade deadline team would be looking pretty good right now with Kemba on fire and Butler coming back 8)
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Rondo came up big.
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So with all the calls of Draymond Green being overrated does that mean Rondo was as well? Considering that his numbers were "inflated" with playing with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
yea that is certainly possible, especially since Rondo never made an all-star team not on the Celtics...
Being an all-star is overrated, imo. You have Kyle Korver, Jamal Magloire and Roy Hibbert making it in the team.
Yeah but rondo made a couple right? There are a lot less bad players that made a few (although I guess it is possible hibbert did without looking, he had a weird career arc )
Rondo was a legit superstar in his Celtics days. He is posting up Jason Kidd-like numbers and was leading the Celtic offense from 2009-2013, All-Defensive Team and All-NBA player. I don't remember any series where Draymond Green is clearly the best player on any Warriors playoff series. It was either Durant, Curry or Klay that carry the offensive load.
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Any chance we see the Cavs purposely try for the 4/5 seed down the stretch to avoid the Celtics in the 2nd Round? At this point that seems like our best bet.
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Any chance we see the Cavs purposely try for the 4/5 seed down the stretch to avoid the Celtics in the 2nd Round? At this point that seems like our best bet.
I don't see why it should make any difference to them who they run into at what stage in the playoffs. At least from the Cavs point of view.
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Curry went down and it does not look good...
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Donovan Mitchell took 35 shots tonight! THIRTY-FIVE!! He's good but if Jayson hoisted up as much shots as he does per game I think he'd easily be ROY
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Curry went down and it does not look good...
He’s had a rough month
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Curry went down and it does not look good...
He’s had a rough month
Nick Young to the rescue. Wish he was a Celtic. Catches fire against a Hawks team that deliberately tanked again, but carries himself as if he just individually won Game 7.
Post-game interview: "I need a championship."
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2764755-stephen-curry-exits-vs-hawks-after-knee-injury-diagnosed-as-strain?share=other
Wow, an MCL injury with an MRI tomorrow to determine severity. IIRC, that was pretty much the same freak injury that took Durant out for around 20 games last year, which would be devastating for the Warriors.
Too bad we’ve had such an injury plagued year. I think the title is really up for grabs.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2764755-stephen-curry-exits-vs-hawks-after-knee-injury-diagnosed-as-strain?share=other
Wow, an MCL injury with an MRI tomorrow to determine severity. IIRC, that was pretty much the same freak injury that took Durant out for around 20 games last year, which would be devastating for the Warriors.
Too bad we’ve had such an injury plagued year. I think the title is really up for grabs.
Houston Rockets could win it all this year.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2764755-stephen-curry-exits-vs-hawks-after-knee-injury-diagnosed-as-strain?share=other
Wow, an MCL injury with an MRI tomorrow to determine severity. IIRC, that was pretty much the same freak injury that took Durant out for around 20 games last year, which would be devastating for the Warriors.
Too bad we’ve had such an injury plagued year. I think the title is really up for grabs.
Houston Rockets could win it all this year.
Would 20 games be difficult, or devastating, though? There's 10 left in the season, the first round will be a cakewalk, and he'll get extra rest in the playoffs. I'd be concerned if he's not 100% after, even it's anything more than a mild sprain. But otherwise, they'll cruise. Houston/Harden have been chokers in the playoffs. CP should help, but crazy as it sounds, I'd still pick GSW to win the West with even a hobbled Steph Curry.
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Boy, there are A LOT of seeding implications for teams in both conferences.
In the East, there's only a 3.5 game difference between the 4 seed and the 8 seed. And in the West, WOW, the 3 seed is just 4.5 games ahead of the 9 seed, and only a 1.5 game difference between the 4th and 7th seeds in the West (and that is huge considering where you finish could mean either playing a team like Houston/Golden State, or Minnesota/OKC/Spurs - Spurs w/o Kawhi possibly).
It unfortunately does look likely that CLE snags that 3 seed, so even if Boston advanced past the first round, they meet CLE in the 2nd round. Oh well.
But I'm actually perfectly fine drawing Miami in the first round. I'd honestly much rather play them than the Bucks or Wizards first round, even though Miami won't be easy either.
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It does seem like Cleveland has righted the ship enough to hold onto the #3 seed.
And if Boston was completely healthy I have no doubts they could win that series easily. Unfortunately the Celtics are not very healthy, thus I suspect Cleveland would win a potential series with Boston.
I'm not terribly worried by this, though, as our future is bright. But it would have been nice to be the team that once again forces LeBron to tuck tail and leave Cleveland.
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It does seem like Cleveland has righted the ship enough to hold onto the #3 seed.
And if Boston was completely healthy I have no doubts they could win that series easily. Unfortunately the Celtics are not very healthy, thus I suspect Cleveland would win a potential series with Boston.
I'm terribly worked by this, as our future is bright, but it would have been nice to be the team that once again forces LeBron to tuck tail and leave Cleveland.
Yeah, with Kyrie and Smart back, I think win or lose, we could at least give CLE a legitimate series and push them to 6, maybe 7 games. (And who knows, maybe win it?)
However, as much as I've loved our run recently with the rookies and guys like Morris+Rozier stepping up, if we go into the Cavs series w/o Kyrie and Smart, we're getting swept lol.
Makes me wish they had looked at Kyrie's knee a little earlier and so if he got the small surgery earlier this month, he'd definitely be back in times for the playoffs (1st round), where unfortunately now that's still a legit question mark it seems.
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Six games tonight and here are 4 of them
Magic-Suns
Pistons-Bulls
Mavs-Hornets
Grizzlies-Lakers
God thats a lot of awful basketball. Thank god for the NCAA Elite 8 tonight.
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It does seem like Cleveland has righted the ship enough to hold onto the #3 seed.
And if Boston was completely healthy I have no doubts they could win that series easily. Unfortunately the Celtics are not very healthy, thus I suspect Cleveland would win a potential series with Boston.
I'm terribly worked by this, as our future is bright, but it would have been nice to be the team that once again forces LeBron to tuck tail and leave Cleveland.
Yeah, with Kyrie and Smart back, I think win or lose, we could at least give CLE a legitimate series and push them to 6, maybe 7 games. (And who knows, maybe win it?)
However, as much as I've loved our run recently with the rookies and guys like Morris+Rozier stepping up, if we go into the Cavs series w/o Kyrie and Smart, we're getting swept lol.
Makes me wish they had looked at Kyrie's knee a little earlier and so if he got the small surgery earlier this month, he'd definitely be back in times for the playoffs (1st round), where unfortunately now that's still a legit question mark it seems.
Maybe a gentleman's sweep. Morris may have his breakout game and steal one in Cleveland. But Celtics will probably get dismantled at the TD Garden to conclude their season.
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Six games tonight and here are 4 of them
Magic-Suns
Pistons-Bulls
Mavs-Hornets
Grizzlies-Lakers
God thats a lot of awful basketball. Thank god for the NCAA Elite 8 tonight.
yes it is ..LOL
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Ssseeesssssh guys the celtics deserve at least some optimism.
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Utah Jazz 7-point favorites at Oracle Arena tonight.
Cr-A-zy.
But that's to be expected when you're missing four of your five starters.
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A new wild-card scenario that would be a nightmare for Celtics fans...Washington Wizards falling to #7 seed, get John Wall back and face the #2 seeded Boston Celtics in Round 1 without Kyrie Irving and Marcus Smart.
And the Wizards have beaten the Celtics at the Garden both times this year.
That is the worst-case scenario opponent and one who I'd prefer to avoid until later in the postseason.
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A new wild-card scenario that would be a nightmare for Celtics fans...Washington Wizards falling to #7 seed, get John Wall back and face the #2 seeded Boston Celtics in Round 1 without Kyrie Irving and Marcus Smart.
And the Wizards have beaten the Celtics at the Garden both times this year.
That is the worst-case scenario opponent and one who I'd prefer to avoid until later in the postseason.
Dude what is with your sky is falling posts? We have beaten the blazers, thunder and kings missing half our team and the wizards lost to the knicks and you are talking nightmare scenarios :-\
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Fultz is playing tonight. ~14 minutes off the bench.
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A new wild-card scenario that would be a nightmare for Celtics fans...Washington Wizards falling to #7 seed, get John Wall back and face the #2 seeded Boston Celtics in Round 1 without Kyrie Irving and Marcus Smart.
And the Wizards have beaten the Celtics at the Garden both times this year.
That is the worst-case scenario opponent and one who I'd prefer to avoid until later in the postseason.
I’ve come to terms with the fact that nothing will really be clear until the final four games of the season
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Fultz is playing tonight. ~14 minutes off the bench.
I hope he misses his only shot and we can all laugh about what a ripoff the trade was.
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Fultz is playing tonight. ~14 minutes off the bench.
I hope he misses his only shot and we can all laugh about what a ripoff the trade was.
Welp: https://twitter.com/MontaWorldPeace/status/978415150851125249
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A new wild-card scenario that would be a nightmare for Celtics fans...Washington Wizards falling to #7 seed, get John Wall back and face the #2 seeded Boston Celtics in Round 1 without Kyrie Irving and Marcus Smart.
And the Wizards have beaten the Celtics at the Garden both times this year.
That is the worst-case scenario opponent and one who I'd prefer to avoid until later in the postseason.
They haven't been very good without Wall that's for sure (which is strange because they have talent) is Scott Brooks not a good coach?
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A new wild-card scenario that would be a nightmare for Celtics fans...Washington Wizards falling to #7 seed, get John Wall back and face the #2 seeded Boston Celtics in Round 1 without Kyrie Irving and Marcus Smart.
And the Wizards have beaten the Celtics at the Garden both times this year.
That is the worst-case scenario opponent and one who I'd prefer to avoid until later in the postseason.
To be honest, I don't like the idea of facing the Bucks either. The Greek Freak could go off and I'm not sure we'll be able to keep up offensively w/o Kyrie and Smart over the course of a series (Rozier, Tatum and Morris will have to step up BIG time every game).
I'd much rather face MIA first round, but unfortunately it's looking more and more likely we'll be playing WAS or MIL first round.
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If Philly keeps this pace up, they're going to have a really good shot of knocking Cleveland out of that 3 spot.
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If Philly keeps this pace up, they're going to have a really good shot of knocking Cleveland out of that 3 spot.
Cavaliers also play Philly once more before season ends. If PHI wins that game, I think the chances they get 3 seed are very high so long as they keep it rolling.
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If Philly keeps this pace up, they're going to have a really good shot of knocking Cleveland out of that 3 spot.
Cavaliers also play Philly once more before season ends. If PHI wins that game, I think the chances they get 3 seed are very high so long as they keep it rolling.
Yep. That game is both in Philly and on the second night of a back to back for Cleveland after playing Washington the night before, too. Good chance that Philly takes that one, and as long as they beat the other tanking teams that they should, they should have a clear path to the 3 seed, which bodes much better for us than a potential Cleveland matchup in the second round.
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If Philly keeps this pace up, they're going to have a really good shot of knocking Cleveland out of that 3 spot.
Cavaliers also play Philly once more before season ends. If PHI wins that game, I think the chances they get 3 seed are very high so long as they keep it rolling.
Yep. That game is both in Philly and on the second night of a back to back for Cleveland after playing Washington the night before, too. Good chance that Philly takes that one, and as long as they beat the other tanking teams that they should, they should have a clear path to the 3 seed, which bodes much better for us than a potential Cleveland matchup in the second round.
Really hope we play MIA in the 1st round. MUCH rather them than Washington or Milwaukee to be honest.
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Sixer are celebrating like they won a championship. ::)
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They haven't been very good without Wall that's for sure (which is strange because they have talent) is Scott Brooks not a good coach?
Lol...if you have to ask then you have your answer.
Dude had sooooooo much talent in OKC and coukdn't win it all.
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Josh Jackson is gonna be really good. He's so multidimensional and affects the game in so many ways. He has a nice touch and his shooting is improving. And while he may not fill out like other prospects, once he gets stronger he will only be better, especially as a defender.
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They haven't been very good without Wall that's for sure (which is strange because they have talent) is Scott Brooks not a good coach?
Lol...if you have to ask then you have your answer.
Dude had sooooooo much talent in OKC and coukdn't win it all.
Yeah, Brooks is pretty typical of most NBA coaches, imo. All he ever talks about, at least in huddles, anyway, and iirc, is defense, defense, defense, and to push the ball ::). He has absolutely no concept of how to design any kind of half-court offense, imo, and listen, maybe that will change, but it hasn't happened as of yet in either OKC or DC, so yeah.
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They haven't been very good without Wall that's for sure (which is strange because they have talent) is Scott Brooks not a good coach?
Lol...if you have to ask then you have your answer.
Dude had sooooooo much talent in OKC and coukdn't win it all.
But to be fair, that was before OKC's 2012 Big 3 were at their peak. But man, imagine how many championships they could've won if they all stuck together after 2012.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
Sometimes just being the healthiest good team is enough to win it. Do the Lakers win it if KG isn't hurt in 2009 or if Perk goesn't get hurt in 2010? Does GSW win if Love and Kyrie aren't hurt in 2015? Does Houston win if MJ is around for those two sabatical years?
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
Sometimes just being the healthiest good team is enough to win it. Do the Lakers win it if KG isn't hurt in 2009 or if Perk goesn't get hurt in 2010? Does GSW win if Love and Kyrie aren't hurt in 2015? Does Houston win if MJ is around for those two sabatical years?
Injuries don't have to do with anything about their point. Injuries happen every year. You could go back and question any championship, and wonder if it would have gone different if someone hadn't gotten injured. Their point is that Harden and Paul don't win in the playoffs. And since they have proven that, it's not going to be any different this time.
I think it will be interesting to see. Definitely the best team CP3 has had, and people tend to forget that Harden HAS been to the finals. If they get bounced early again this year though, I don't know if Paul will ever get there.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
Sometimes just being the healthiest good team is enough to win it. Do the Lakers win it if KG isn't hurt in 2009 or if Perk goesn't get hurt in 2010? Does GSW win if Love and Kyrie aren't hurt in 2015? Does Houston win if MJ is around for those two sabatical years?
Injuries don't have to do with anything about their point. Injuries happen every year. You could go back and question any championship, and wonder if it would have gone different if someone hadn't gotten injured. Their point is that Harden and Paul don't win in the playoffs. And since they have proven that, it's not going to be any different this time.
I think it will be interesting to see. Definitely the best team CP3 has had, and people tend to forget that Harden HAS been to the finals. If they get bounced early again this year though, I don't know if Paul will ever get there.
I understand the point that Harden and CP3 don't win in the playoffs because there is a history of them losing there. Lebron had that history once upon a time too. Until he finally won.
What I am saying is maybe Harden and CP3 overcome their past because they are on the healthiest good team, which happens a lot. With GSW banged up, Boston decimated by injuries, Cleveland only now seeming to get everyone healthy and integrated, perhaps even though D'Antoni, Harden and Paul are playoff losers, maybe they finally win because they're the healthiest good team left.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
Sometimes just being the healthiest good team is enough to win it. Do the Lakers win it if KG isn't hurt in 2009 or if Perk goesn't get hurt in 2010? Does GSW win if Love and Kyrie aren't hurt in 2015? Does Houston win if MJ is around for those two sabatical years?
Injuries don't have to do with anything about their point. Injuries happen every year. You could go back and question any championship, and wonder if it would have gone different if someone hadn't gotten injured. Their point is that Harden and Paul don't win in the playoffs. And since they have proven that, it's not going to be any different this time.
I think it will be interesting to see. Definitely the best team CP3 has had, and people tend to forget that Harden HAS been to the finals. If they get bounced early again this year though, I don't know if Paul will ever get there.
I understand the point that Harden and CP3 don't win in the playoffs because there is a history of them losing there. Lebron had that history once upon a time too. Until he finally won.
What I am saying is maybe Harden and CP3 overcome their past because they are on the healthiest good team, which happens a lot. With GSW banged up, Boston decimated by injuries, Cleveland only now seeming to get everyone healthy and integrated, perhaps even though D'Antoni, Harden and Paul are playoff losers, maybe they finally win because they're the healthiest good team left.
One thing is for sure - they won't be getting any better chances to break the spell.
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Those Rockets are very convincing. They just had their 17-game winning streak snapped not so long ago.
Now they've won 9 games in a row. Are they not the real deal?
Show the same consistency in the playoffs, then we talk. I'll believe they are legit when I see it. CP3 is still a conference finals virgin and Harden got bounced in the 2nd round with a Kawhi-less Spurs.
Ya I want to believe this team is legit but Harden and D'antoni have repeatedly proven otherwise come playoffs.
Sometimes just being the healthiest good team is enough to win it. Do the Lakers win it if KG isn't hurt in 2009 or if Perk goesn't get hurt in 2010? Does GSW win if Love and Kyrie aren't hurt in 2015? Does Houston win if MJ is around for those two sabatical years?
Injuries don't have to do with anything about their point. Injuries happen every year. You could go back and question any championship, and wonder if it would have gone different if someone hadn't gotten injured. Their point is that Harden and Paul don't win in the playoffs. And since they have proven that, it's not going to be any different this time.
I think it will be interesting to see. Definitely the best team CP3 has had, and people tend to forget that Harden HAS been to the finals. If they get bounced early again this year though, I don't know if Paul will ever get there.
I understand the point that Harden and CP3 don't win in the playoffs because there is a history of them losing there. Lebron had that history once upon a time too. Until he finally won.
What I am saying is maybe Harden and CP3 overcome their past because they are on the healthiest good team, which happens a lot. With GSW banged up, Boston decimated by injuries, Cleveland only now seeming to get everyone healthy and integrated, perhaps even though D'Antoni, Harden and Paul are playoff losers, maybe they finally win because they're the healthiest good team left.
One thing is for sure - they won't be getting any better chances to break the spell.
No doubt the stars are aligning for CP3 Harden and D'antoni if they can't win it this year they will have to win it in a parallel universe because it won't happen in this one.
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They haven't been very good without Wall that's for sure (which is strange because they have talent) is Scott Brooks not a good coach?
Lol...if you have to ask then you have your answer.
Dude had sooooooo much talent in OKC and coukdn't win it all.
Yeah, Brooks is pretty typical of most NBA coaches, imo. All he ever talks about, at least in huddles, anyway, and iirc, is defense, defense, defense, and to push the ball ::). He has absolutely no concept of how to design any kind of half-court offense, imo, and listen, maybe that will change, but it hasn't happened as of yet in either OKC or DC, so yeah.
he is more or a cheerleader than a X and O's coach .
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Little trap game for the Raps tonight... Denver will be a nice tough out
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Little trap game for the Raps tonight... Denver will be a nice tough out
Philly just ran through Denver last night, Toronto is going to run through them too off a B2B.
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Ibaka has been terrible lately.
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The Heat pouring it on against Cleveland doubling them up 42-20! A loss tonight would go a long way to getting them to the 4 seed, especially with a semi-tough game in Charlotte tomorrow night.
EDIT: And that’s not even mentioning helping the Heat in their pursuit of the 7 seed.
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Heat is the last team I want in the first round. I'd rather face the Bucks or the Wizards.
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Heat is the last team I want in the first round. I'd rather face the Bucks or the Wizards.
I think Boston beats all 3 of those teams. Only teams I see Boston losing to is Cleveland or Toronto.
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Heat is the last team I want in the first round. I'd rather face the Bucks or the Wizards.
I think Boston beats all 3 of those teams. Only teams I see Boston losing to is Cleveland or Toronto.
With Kyrie, sure. Without Kyrie though, we could struggle to beat any of those three.
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World turns upside down as Jordan Mickey is lighting up the Cavs.
He's got 5 points and 2 rebounds in 12 minutes as the starting center for the former world champion Miami Heat. He's pushed KO out of the starting line up...why can't we get guys like this?
Oh that's right....never mind.
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Heat is the last team I want in the first round. I'd rather face the Bucks or the Wizards.
Really? I'd much rather see Miami than the other two, and I'd probably rather see the Bucks than a healthy Wizards squad.
I just don't think Miami has the talent to beat us, even without Kyrie. We're just as defensively gritty as (if not more than) them with more overall talent. Plus, we'd have homecourt advantage.
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This Raptors second unit is legit. They just won this game against the Nuggets with this second unit sans Derozan and Lowry only playing a little bit in the fourth.
Here's the question, though - how much of that advantage is erased in the playoffs when teams' starters play many more minutes and the lineups are much more integrated? I don't think you'll see this dominant of a Raptors club in the playoffs when that advantage is somewhat neutralized.
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If the Raptors and/or Rockets don't make the Finals despite the rosters they have this year, then they may never will honestly.
Warriors are dinged up and even with Curry coming back 2nd round, you imagine he won't be 100%. As for Cleveland, I think the "Kyrie void" will come back to bite them in some games. Could cost them in a series against TOR with how good Toronto's 2nd unit is, and so long as DeRozan and Lowry do their things.
Never said this in previous years (I never fell for the "trap"), but this could be the year we don't see a Cavaliers-Warriors Finals.
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If the Raptors and/or Rockets don't make the Finals despite the rosters they have this year, then they may never will honestly.
Warriors are dinged up and even with Curry coming back 2nd round, you imagine he won't be 100%. As for Cleveland, I think the "Kyrie void" will come back to bite them in some games. Could cost them in a series against TOR with how good Toronto's 2nd unit is, and so long as DeRozan and Lowry do their things.
Never said this in previous years (I never fell for the "trap"), but this could be the year we don't see a Cavaliers-Warriors Finals.
For the last 7 years LeBron James has made it to the NBA Finals. I wonder will that streak finally end too.
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Wade and olynyks heat are destroying the cavs
Up by 23 with 2 minutes to go
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Wade and olynyks heat are destroying the cavs
Up by 23 with 2 minutes to go
Yeeeah Cavs lose! They have another tomorrow that they should win. Let’s see though!
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Houston fans must be rejoicing...enjoying two 10+ game winning streaks. 27-1 in their last 28? Crazy...
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Haha I was just checking to see if it was olynyk who knocked Love’s tooth .
It was Mickey this time.
;D
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Good win by Cavs today without Kevin Love against what ever Charlotte is trying to do. This race for the 3rd seed will certainly go down to the wire. Philly continues to feast on the tanking teams beating the Trey Burke and Beasely led Knicks.
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Good win by Cavs today without Kevin Love against what ever Charlotte is trying to do. This race for the 3rd seed will certainly go down to the wire. Philly continues to feast on the tanking teams beating the Trey Burke and Beasely led Knicks.
I wish you could narrate my life in real-time.
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Good win by Cavs today without Kevin Love against what ever Charlotte is trying to do. This race for the 3rd seed will certainly go down to the wire. Philly continues to feast on the tanking teams beating the Trey Burke and Beasely led Knicks.
The Celtics are 6 games up with 8 games to go, i don't believe that the Cavs can get that 3rd seed. The Cavs need to fight off the Sixers and The Pacers who are a half game and a game back. Cavs could end up in that 5 slot...
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Good win by Cavs today without Kevin Love against what ever Charlotte is trying to do. This race for the 3rd seed will certainly go down to the wire. Philly continues to feast on the tanking teams beating the Trey Burke and Beasely led Knicks.
The Celtics are 6 games up with 8 games to go, i don't believe that the Cavs can get that 3rd seed. The Cavs need to fight off the Sixers and The Pacers who are a half game and a game back. Cavs could end up in that 5 slot...
You're confusing the 2nd seed with 3rd seed.
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Old friend MarShon Brooks signed a 10 day with Memphis. Looks like he is another former NBA player to average 60 ppg in China.
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Old friend MarShon Brooks signed a 10 day with Memphis. Looks like he is another former NBA player to average 60 ppg in China.
Man that C's team was terrible
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Old friend MarShon Brooks signed a 10 day with Memphis. Looks like he is another former NBA player to average 60 ppg in China.
Man that C's team was terrible
Yep. That's because we had the old MarShon. The new MarShon had 21 points in a Memphis(!) win over Portland tonight. :D
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Old friend MarShon Brooks signed a 10 day with Memphis. Looks like he is another former NBA player to average 60 ppg in China.
Man that C's team was terrible
Yep. That's because we had the old MarShon. The new MarShon had 21 points in a Memphis(!) win over Portland tonight. :D
Memphis will probably cut him if he keeps that up
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Old friend MarShon Brooks signed a 10 day with Memphis. Looks like he is another former NBA player to average 60 ppg in China.
Man that C's team was terrible
Yep. That's because we had the old MarShon. The new MarShon had 21 points in a Memphis(!) win over Portland tonight. :D
Memphis will probably cut him if he keeps that up
Fact
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;D
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Good win by Cavs today without Kevin Love against what ever Charlotte is trying to do. This race for the 3rd seed will certainly go down to the wire. Philly continues to feast on the tanking teams beating the Trey Burke and Beasely led Knicks.
The Celtics are 6 games up with 8 games to go, i don't believe that the Cavs can get that 3rd seed. The Cavs need to fight off the Sixers and The Pacers who are a half game and a game back. Cavs could end up in that 5 slot...
You're confusing the 2nd seed with 3rd seed.
Right!
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My dude Jaylen with the dagger :D
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Embiid to miss at least two games. Still undergoing tests on his face.
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Embiid to miss at least two games. Still undergoing tests on his face.
That hurts for us fans hoping to avoid Cleveland getting the #3 seed
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Embiid to miss at least two games. Still undergoing tests on his face.
That hurts for us fans hoping to avoid Cleveland getting the #3 seed
Embiid is out for the road trip but the Sixers shouldn't need him to beat Atlanta and probably not Charlotte.
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Embiid to miss at least two games. Still undergoing tests on his face.
That hurts for us fans hoping to avoid Cleveland getting the #3 seed
Embiid is out for their road trip but the Sixers shouldn't need him to beat Atlanta and probably not Charlotte.
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Embiid to miss at least two games. Still undergoing tests on his face.
That hurts for us fans hoping to avoid Cleveland getting the #3 seed
Embiid is out for their road trip but the Sixers shouldn't need him to beat Atlanta and probably not Charlotte.
Charlotte might be most unpredicable team in the NBA right now. They won a game by 60 points a few weeks ago, then completely tanked at home against a Kevin Love-less Cavs team coming off a blowout loss to Miami. Presumably Howard will have a much easier time against Holmes or Johnson (he also had a 30 30 game a week ago). Overall though I am more concerned that they are still doing tests on Embiid. What does that mean?
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This doesn't sound good:
"Joel Embiid will be sidelined for at least the 76ers’ next two games because of what the team is calling a facial contusion. However, Embiid might have suffered a fracture to the orbital bone of his left eye, sources said Thursday, adding that his eye looked kind of caved."
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This doesn't sound good:
"Joel Embiid will be sidelined for at least the 76ers’ next two games because of what the team is calling a facial contusion. However, Embiid might have suffered a fracture to the orbital bone of his left eye, sources said Thursday, adding that his eye looked kind of caved."
Ouch! Fultz strikes again!
Hopefully for the Sixers Embiid is ok going into the playoffs. I want to see them go up against the Cavs.
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Philadelphia star Joel Embiid will undergo surgery to repair an orbital fracture of his left eye, be out indefinitely.
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Philadelphia star Joel Embiid will undergo surgery to repair an orbital fracture of his left eye, be out indefinitely.
Dude has a fragile skeleton
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22957686/philadelphia-76ers-center-joel-embiid-hospital-travel-atlanta
He’s not traveling with the team
Wonder if the sixers will start losing
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22957686/philadelphia-76ers-center-joel-embiid-hospital-travel-atlanta
He’s not traveling with the team
Wonder if the sixers will start losing
anyone else see a tweet (i think shams...if not it was woj) saying he was "expected out 3-4 weeks and 1st round in jeopardy"
i believe it was deleted cause i cant find it (came out a few minutes ago)...but could only have been one of those two because those are the only two i get notified from
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Philadelphia star Joel Embiid will undergo surgery to repair an orbital fracture of his left eye, be out indefinitely.
Dude has a fragile skeleton
Feel bad for Embiid but this made me laugh.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22957686/philadelphia-76ers-center-joel-embiid-hospital-travel-atlanta
He’s not traveling with the team
Wonder if the sixers will start losing
anyone else see a tweet (i think shams...if not it was woj) saying he was "expected out 3-4 weeks and 1st round in jeopardy"
i believe it was deleted cause i cant find it (came out a few minutes ago)...but could only have been one of those two because those are the only two i get notified from
Zach Lowe posted the Tweet:
Zach Lowe
Verified account
@ZachLowe_NBA
Pending the results of surgery, Embiid could return to play in 2-4 weeks, per league source. First round obviously in some jeopardy.
I have to imagine that with Embiid's already long history of injury issues, they'll be cautious with him going forward, so I think the first round could be in jeopardy for him (at least the start of it).
Truthfully, I think PHI will be fine if they play against IND first round with home court (assuming Simmons goes off and Fultz does well), BUT if they play WAS with a healthy Wall or even play against Indiana without home court advantage, it could be trouble for them. (Assuming Embiid misses part of, or the entire first round)
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Means 76ers could fall as far as 7th and 8th seed and the Celtics could potentially have a date with them in Round 1.
They'd be a nasty bunch if Embiid was healthy facing the Celtics.
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AD struggling by Pels up by 10 against the Cavs.
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If it's cool with the masses, I'm a borderline 6ers fan. Half my fantasy team is comprised of these guys. I even google searched "Does Richaun Holmes deserve more minutes?" the other day. I love it all the way around.
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Means 76ers could fall as far as 7th and 8th seed and the Celtics could potentially have a date with them in Round 1.
They'd be a nasty bunch if Embiid was healthy facing the Celtics.
I wouldn't worry about facing the Sixers even with a healthy Embiid. They barely beat a team without Kyrie and Monroe.
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George Hill looks hurt after landing with the wrong foot. Celtics aren't the only team ravaged by injuries.
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Old friend Gerald Green with a buzzer-beater, game winning 3
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Dang. Marshon Brooks. Again.
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Spurs beat the Rockets this afternoon 100-83.
HOU was missing CP3, but SAS has obviously been missing Kawhi most of this season, and they certainly looked impressive today. Great defense, lots of consistency, solid ball movement and played a complete game.
I think HOU has a chance at taking down Golden State in the WCF (as long as they remain healthy), but this Spurs team certainly could give them fits if they remain as the 4th seed and play HOU in the 2nd round.
Aldridge is proving to be a beast (had 23 points, 14 rebounds today), but he also looks real solid on defense.
But the emergence of Rudy Gay could certainly be a factor. Guy had 21 points today in just 24 minutes, and if he can be their consistent #2 scorer, they could certainly make a run in these playoffs. They won't be favored in series against GSW or HOU, but I wouldn't count them out even w/o Kawhi. Just gotta stay healthy from here on out too.
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I'd like to believe the Spurs could turn their season around right now, but perhaps a bit too late.
But it would be fun to watch them upset the Rockets in the postseason. And the Warriors for that matter.
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The Wiz are tanking for the 7 seed. The Cavs need to lose some of their final games to get the 4 seed.
The drama never ends!
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The Wiz are tanking for the 7 seed. The Cavs need to lose some of their final games to get the 4 seed.
The drama never ends!
They sure want to give Boston a challenging time in the postseason this year.
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Just found out that Marshon Brooks is still an NBA player. Good for him.
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The Wiz are tanking for the 7 seed. The Cavs need to lose some of their final games to get the 4 seed.
The drama never ends!
It makes too much sense for them to tank for the 7th. If you are going to face us, the first round makes the most sense with our injury situation. If we end up in first, it will throw off everything and those tankers though.
Winning a first vs. the Wiz without Kyrie will not be easy. We have no proven playoff scorer on our team for crunch time. This is a big issue vs a tough team with multiple proven playoff scorers.
Here is hoping our young duo find their playoff groove but to count on that happening during the last five minutes of the 4th will not be easy for them. Here is hoping team effort can truly win big games when it matters.
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Man what happened to the raptors. We just beat them with half our team and now the cavs are pasting them. They don't look like the same team the last few weeks.
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Cavs pounding the Raptors right now.
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Cavs pounding the Raptors right now.
yeah I saw that too. if that keeps up, makes tonight's game versus the bucks that much more important. Cavs win, C's win, we are only 1 game out of 1st.
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Raptors did finish strong. Maybe they will rally in second half.
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Raptors getting smoked by the Cavaliers.
I guess the Celtics need to obtain the #1 seed if they wish to evade the Cavs in Round 2.
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Lol same-old choking Raptors. Shame on me for giving them props earlier in the season. They don’t have the character or makeup to make it out of the East.
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Wizards are tanking so hard just to face Boston lol.
Getting blown out by the Rockets.
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Wizards are tanking so hard just to face Boston lol.
Getting blown out by the Rockets.
they only play well against Boston
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Wizards are tanking so hard just to face Boston lol.
Getting blown out by the Rockets.
they only play well against Boston
The Wizards team really annoys the hell out of me. Feels like that team is just filled with arrogant players led by John "transcendental talent" Wall and Punk Oubre (excuse my language). Of course, that team also underachieves often yet still gets praised by the national media for some odd reason.
Unfortunately, that would be a bad match up for us w/o Kyrie and Smart. Maybe it's best to hope Bucks/Heat keep winning and we stay #2, so WAS ends up falling to #8 lol.
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I hope LeBron fires Brett Brown. :police: I'm tired of him not giving my guy Richaun Holmes any run. If the excuse is poor defense, Brownie, note that he gets 4 blocks when you give him 26 mins. 8)
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That Lakers team is just a team of stat guys. All playing for numbers.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
If by DAT. DUDE. you mean one of the worst players on one of the worst teams in the NBA actively trying to lose?
then yeah. I think you are right on. He is dat dude.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
If by DAT. DUDE. you mean one of the worst players on one of the worst teams in the NBA actively trying to lose?
then yeah. I think you are right on. He is dat dude.
Lighten up, broheim.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him. Like at all. I just thought that it was a nice success story, however long it should last. Sheesh :-\. It was really meant to be a bit of a joke as I was just having some fun - that's all; and way to take a dump on triboy, btw ::). Come on, man, you're much better than that.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him. Like at all. I just thought that it was a nice success story, however long it should last. Sheesh :-\. It was really meant to be a bit of a joke as I was just having some fun - that's all; and way to take a dump on triboy, btw ::). Come on, man, you're much better than that.
Guess my sarcasm didn't come through and I should have used a laughing emoji. I was just joking man.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
Are you joking right now? You're literally an e-bully. No idea why anyone puts up with it. Just one person al attack after another.
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I don't care about run-on sentences. I care about the Cavs losing two of their remaining games. That's what I care about.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
", although" is also a conjunction. I see 3 separate clauses joined together by 2 conjunctions.
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
Are you joking right now? You're literally an e-bully. No idea why anyone puts up with it. Just one person al attack after another.
I thought the only thing that made you really sensitive is IT being bashed and/or Kyrie receiving praise?
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
", although" is also a conjunction. I see 3 separate clauses joined together by 2 conjunctions.
That is correct. However, "although" is a subordinating conjunction, which connects a dependent clause and an independent clause. Beat LA's one coordinating conjunction did correctly connect the two independent clauses in his sentence, making the sentence grammatically correct (/not a run-on). (note: Unlike my reply to Eddie, this particular comment of mine is not being made sardonically. I just want to respectfully clarify to back up my other post.)
(completely separate point): I'm jumping off my high horse now. I hate internet grammar police, and I am far from perfect. (Many of my posts have many grammatical errors.) I just wanted to poke fun at the attempt to make fun of Beat LA. I promise to never be a grammar snob again, unless it is to combat derisive comments.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
", although" is also a conjunction. I see 3 separate clauses joined together by 2 conjunctions.
It does appear that after carefully reading through the sentence in question, it is grammatically correct. However, I can assure you no editor would ever allow it to be published, as is. The key is whether or not the individual clauses can stand on their own. That singular sentence could have been more cleanly conveyed in two separate sentences that are much easier to read and comprehend, without all the extra, unnecessary interjections (i.e. "in fact", "well", and "but no").
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
Are you joking right now? You're literally an e-bully. No idea why anyone puts up with it. Just one person al attack after another.
I fail to see how, whether accurate or not, correcting someone's grammar is a personal attack or bullying. I realize it's just a post on an internet discussion board, but it sure is a lot easier to comprehend proper grammar than the alternative. Maybe it's a bit pedantic, but it most certainly is not bullying.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
", although" is also a conjunction. I see 3 separate clauses joined together by 2 conjunctions.
It does appear that after carefully reading through the sentence in question, it is grammatically correct. However, I can assure you no editor would ever allow it to be published, as is. The key is whether or not the individual clauses can stand on their own. That singular sentence could have been more cleanly conveyed in two separate sentences that are much easier to read and comprehend, without all the extra, unnecessary interjections (i.e. "in fact", "well", and "but no").
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
Are you joking right now? You're literally an e-bully. No idea why anyone puts up with it. Just one person al attack after another.
I fail to see how, whether accurate or not, correcting someone's grammar is a personal attack or bullying. I realize it's just a post on an internet discussion board, but it sure is a lot easier to comprehend proper grammar than the alternative. Maybe it's a bit pedantic, but it most certainly is not bullying.
It's not. He's been grasping at straws ever since he was proven wrong about IT. Poor guy has been on edge ever since he was suspended.
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For all those fans keeping score at home:
1. It's a sentence, but a weird sentence.
2. It's not bullying, but pedantic.
3. We can't wait for the playoffs to start.
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ENOUGH!!!
Get back on subject of NBA basketball!!!
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Nevermind...no need for me to take a mods thunder. :laugh:
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3. We can't wait for the playoffs to start.
Agreed
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I hope LeBron fires Brett Brown. :police: I'm tired of him not giving my guy Richaun Holmes any run. If the excuse is poor defense, Brownie, note that he gets 4 blocks when you give him 26 mins. 8)
Tonight in 19 mins, he had 11 points (5-6 FG), 3 rebs, 3 assists, and 3 steals. Let's make it happen, Brett.
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For all those fans keeping score at home:
1. It's a sentence, but a weird sentence.
2. It's not bullying, but pedantic.
3. We can't wait for the playoffs to start.
Yeah.....I'm done with the regular season.
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I hope LeBron fires Brett Brown. :police: I'm tired of him not giving my guy Richaun Holmes any run. If the excuse is poor defense, Brownie, note that he gets 4 blocks when you give him 26 mins. 8)
Tonight in 19 mins, he had 11 points (5-6 FG), 3 rebs, 3 assists, and 3 steals. Let's make it happen, Brett.
We should snag him ;)
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I hope LeBron fires Brett Brown. :police: I'm tired of him not giving my guy Richaun Holmes any run. If the excuse is poor defense, Brownie, note that he gets 4 blocks when you give him 26 mins. 8)
Tonight in 19 mins, he had 11 points (5-6 FG), 3 rebs, 3 assists, and 3 steals. Let's make it happen, Brett.
We should snag him ;)
Yep. Floated that idea last year, actually. It'd be great to have a high energy, athletic big like him.
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Seriously this is the worst end of season ever
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I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him. Like at all. I just thought that it was a nice success story, however long it should last. Sheesh :-\. It was really meant to be a bit of a joke as I was just having some fun - that's all; and way to take a dump on triboy, btw ::). Come on, man, you're much better than that.
Guess my sarcasm didn't come through and I should have used a laughing emoji. I was just joking man.
Oops, lol. Looks like we both screwed the pooch on this one, haha. No problem :).
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
This is a fair point, and I hate people being grammar Nazis, too. However, there was no need for Eddie to inject a snarky comment into a joking message thread, especially considering the fact that Eddie's statement was factually incorrect. I thought it'd be funnier to point out the error rather than the lame and pointless attempt at insulting Beat LA.
This is the first time I've ever played Internet grammar police; it's kinda fun :D
I'll probably never have another opportunity in this regard, so allow me to say that, and even if it's only been for the last 2-3 games, Danuel House Jr IS. DAT. DUDE. I think ;D.
No worries it's just a forum. I've said crazier things that drive most readers nuts 8)
Lol, yeah. It's nice to see him playing so well, though.
Why exactly is that? Do you have him on a fantasy team? Are you related to him somehow? Is he like a friend of yours? Did you make some Triboy/Jordan Mickey prediction about him you want to somehow come true to show off what a great scout you are? Are you an Aggies alumni? Is the fact he is Eddie House's distant relative pertinent to any of this? Exactly, why does House having 2 good games in his whole career make him Dat Guy?
I honestly have no idea as to whether or not he's related to Eddie House in any capacity, although you and I did, in fact, argue over, well, whether or not we should sign Danuel "Not Daniel" House as an undrafted free agent in 2016, but no, that's not why I mentioned him.
Holy comma. 7 in a run-on sentence is a tough mark to beat.
That's not a run-on sentence tho
Yeah, it actually is.
Run-on sentences can be divided into two types. The first occurs when a writer puts no mark of punctuation and no coordinating conjunction between independent clauses. The second is called a comma splice, which occurs when two or more independent clauses are joined by just a comma and no coordinating conjunction.
I just bolded the coordinating conjunction in Beat LA's sentence- the coordinating conjunction which did, in fact, connect two independent clauses. Also worth noting: a grammatically-correct sentence can contain many dependent clauses.
Thanks, GetLucky - TP :). They're kinda my thang, lol, unfortunately.
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I love the internet. Valid arguments (or sometimes valid) between anonymous posters continue on and on until they are derailed by grammatical critiques.
Lol. Sorry. I had no idea that my sentence was about to unleash such backlash. I think.
I don't care about run-on sentences. I care about the Cavs losing two of their remaining games. That's what I care about.
Sorry, dude. None of this was ever my intention, lol.
It does appear that after carefully reading through the sentence in question, it is grammatically correct. However, I can assure you no editor would ever allow it to be published, as is. The key is whether or not the individual clauses can stand on their own. That singular sentence could have been more cleanly conveyed in two separate sentences that are much easier to read and comprehend, without all the extra, unnecessary interjections (i.e. "in fact", "well", and "but no").
Can I ask you something? As I do often struggle with run-on sentences, and have actually written much longer ones, at that, what would be your recommendation(s) insofar as breaking the sentence in question into smaller pieces are concerned?
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Seriously this is the worst end of season ever
Huh? B/c of injuries? They're the #2 seed. I'm pretty sure there have been worse end of seasons.
Kyrie hasn't been ruled out. Tatum and Brown get major minutes in a playoff series (or 2, or maybe 3).
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Lol I can't believe the Wizards are suddenly playing so well against the Cavs. They tanked too hard to make sure they face the Celtics in Round 1.
The Bucks are also leading narrowly against the Nets.
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Lol I can't believe the Wizards are suddenly playing so well against the Cavs. They tanked too hard to make sure they face the Celtics in Round 1.
The Bucks are also leading narrowly against the Nets.
Couldn’t they still grab the #6 seed?
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Wall is not a clutch player...
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Well the Wizards found a way to blew that lead lol. Looks like the Cavs are half a game up for #3 seed while Bucks and Wizards trying to fight for the rights to face Toronto and Boston.
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Wall is not a clutch player...
The end of this game should be a demonstration for all coaches to use on how to lose a game.
17 point lead pretty deep into the 4th and then Wall completely falls apart and so does the Washington defense. Watching Lebron win like this makes me want to puke.
Hey, at least BKN won against MIL. This only solidifies the chances that the pick CLE receives will be 7 or lower.
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Wall is not a clutch player...
The end of this game should be a demonstration for all coaches to use on how to lose a game.
17 point lead pretty deep into the 4th and then Wall completely falls apart and so does the Washington defense. Watching Lebron win like this makes me want to puke.
Hey, at least BKN won against MIL. This only solidifies the chances that the pick CLE receives will be 7 or lower.
I posted in the middle of the 4th. Wall can't shoot and he kept jacking up shot after shot at the end of the 4th.
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Jimmy Butler has been cleared to play just 6 weeks after surgery for a torn meniscus. That should make the WC a lot more interesting. Tough dude. Wish we had traded for him.
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Jimmy Butler has been cleared to play just 6 weeks after surgery for a torn meniscus. That should make the WC a lot more interesting. Tough dude. Wish we had traded for him.
The Wolves are lined up to play the Rockets. Maybe it could be a good series with Butler back...
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Big game for the #3 seed tonight, Cleveland vs Phili. It may sound crazy but I think the Sixers can take this game even without Embiid.
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Sixers blowing out the Cavs right now. They could be our 2nd round match up and avoid Lebron.
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Wall is not a clutch player...
The end of this game should be a demonstration for all coaches to use on how to lose a game.
17 point lead pretty deep into the 4th and then Wall completely falls apart and so does the Washington defense. Watching Lebron win like this makes me want to puke.
Hey, at least BKN won against MIL. This only solidifies the chances that the pick CLE receives will be 7 or lower.
I posted in the middle of the 4th. Wall can't shoot and he kept jacking up shot after shot at the end of the 4th.
While that's true, without Wall, they would've been blown out by like 30 lol.
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78-55 at the intermission...76ers demoralizing the Cavs. LeBron James 4 of 12 field goals.
Wizards trying to end their losing ways but still struggling to hang on against the Hawks. 52-48 ATL.
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78-55 at the intermission...76ers demoralizing the Cavs. LeBron James 4 of 12 field goals.
Wizards trying to end their losing ways but still struggling to hang on against the Hawks. 52-48 ATL.
The Cavs are only down 10 now.
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Belinelli's been huge for the Sixers. We should have picked him up, he would have been great on this Celtics team.
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Cavs are only down 7 now.
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Orlando lost to Charlotte by only 37. Shameful, Adam Silver.
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I just watched LeBron destroy Illyasova. Goodness.
Frankly, looking at his last 15+ games, I don't see what the East can do against him if he has enough shooting. He's not gonna beat Houston or the healthy Warriors, but it'll be up to the Celtics next season to stop him because he's gonna be representing the East again this year.
Assuming he doesn't do something lame like join Philly or Houston.
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That's an epic collapse by the sixers. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since they are still young.
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Big game for the #3 seed tonight, Cleveland vs Phili. It may sound crazy but I think the Sixers can take this game even without Embiid.
Sixers win!
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Wow, things are working out well for the seeding.
If Philly pulls this out, they’re pretty much assured the 3 seed, and with Washington losing tonight, we actually have a decent shot at facing either Milwaukee or Miami in the first round, both which are very winnable series even without Kyrie. As for the second round, if we get there I like our chances against a young Philly team, especially if Smart comes back and Embiid is still out.
An ECF trip is still within the realm of possibility!
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
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Wow, things are working out well for the seeding.
If Philly pulls this out, they’re pretty much assured the 3 seed, and with Washington losing tonight, we actually have a decent shot at facing either Milwaukee or Miami in the first round, both which are very winnable series even without Kyrie. As for the second round, if we get there I like our chances against a young Philly team, especially if Smart comes back and Embiid is still out.
An ECF trip is still within the realm of possibility!
The Cavs hold the tiebreaker. The Sixers need to win out and their last game is against the Bucks. Sixers aren't so young with Redick, Ilyasova and Belinelli.
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Sixers just need to keep winning the rest of their games and 3rd seed is locked. Let Lebron and the Craptors battle out each other. But Embiid and Simmons ain't no joke either but I rather face them in the 2nd round due to their lack of experience.
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
Lebron is proven, Sixers isn't. Tall task without Kyrie but they are beatable.
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
Same, that's a scary matchup. And if they can manage to stay healthy, they'll be a scary team for years to come.
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LOL at Lebron missing the first of two free throws that would have tied the game ;D. No idea as to why, but this has been a constant throughout his career, but hey, at least he made SportsCenter ::). I also have a feeling that Brett Brown's reaction is going to become a gif/meme, if it hasn't, already, lol.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1 (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1)
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LOL at Lebron missing the first of two free throws that would have tied the game ;D. No idea as to why, but this has been a constant throughout his career, but hey, at least he made SportsCenter ::). I also have a feeling that Brett Brown's reaction is going to become a gif/meme, if it hasn't, already, lol.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1 (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1)
And Bron just shrugs like he doesn't care....
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
Same, that's a scary matchup. And if they can manage to stay healthy, they'll be a scary team for years to come.
Unrelated, but man, what was Milwaukee thinking in taking Jabari Parker over Embiid? That dude and Giannis, plus Middleton and perhaps even Bledsoe, on the same team? :o Yikes. Talk about dynasty mode, lol. Wow.
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LOL at Lebron missing the first of two free throws that would have tied the game ;D. No idea as to why, but this has been a constant throughout his career, but hey, at least he made SportsCenter ::). I also have a feeling that Brett Brown's reaction is going to become a gif/meme, if it hasn't, already, lol.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1 (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/982432842377584640/video/1)
And Bron just shrugs like he doesn't care....
I know. Isn't it great? ;D
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
Same, that's a scary matchup. And if they can manage to stay healthy, they'll be a scary team for years to come.
Unrelated, but man, what was Milwaukee thinking in taking Jabari Parker over Embiid? That dude and Giannis, plus Middleton and perhaps even Bledsoe, on the same team? :o Yikes. Talk about dynasty mode, lol. Wow.
Or Embiid could have been taken 1st and be playing with Towns and Butler now.
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Simmons with 27 pts (12/17), 15 rebs, 13 asts, 4 stls. In a big win. 21 years old. Sweet Baby Ray's.
Edit: Just realized that I'd probably drastically overpay for him in a fantasy league.
Not all that thrilled about taking on the Sixers in round two. They are looking very good without Embiid. And he's a monster. Tank paying off in a very big way for Philly.
Same, that's a scary matchup. And if they can manage to stay healthy, they'll be a scary team for years to come.
Unrelated, but man, what was Milwaukee thinking in taking Jabari Parker over Embiid? That dude and Giannis, plus Middleton and perhaps even Bledsoe, on the same team? :o Yikes. Talk about dynasty mode, lol. Wow.
So did Cleveland. Imagine if they had Embiid right now with a Lebron?
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Simmons is a lot of fun to watch. He’s going to be special.
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Belinelli and Ilyasova have been great additions for the Sixers. Together with Roco and Redick, they are a much needed group of shooters around Simmons and Embiid. They are a top tier shooter away from being legit trouble imo. They should trade Fultz for Markannen. He would be the perfect fit next to Embiid.
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ESPN has a headline about LeBron's defense but him and the Cavs just gave up 132 to Philly....
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Cavs defense will not stand up against the Warriors/Rockets.
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Is Washington tanking? Do they want to play Toronto? They 2-8 in their last 10 games...
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Is Washington tanking? Do they want to play Toronto? They 2-8 in their last 10 games...
A Raptors vs Wizards playoff rematch will be interesting. Except this time, Washington doesn't have Paul Pierce to bail them out unlike last time.
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Teams should try to lose on purpose to face Boston in Round 1. Their mindset be like "the Celtics are easiest team in the East to pick apart because everyone is injured" lolol.
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If the Celtics win a playoff series with 3rd stringers, they should hand the CotY trophy to Brad Stevens no questions asked.
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Belinelli and Ilyasova have been great additions for the Sixers. Together with Roco and Redick, they are a much needed group of shooters around Simmons and Embiid. They are a top tier shooter away from being legit trouble imo. They should trade Fultz for Markannen. He would be the perfect fit next to Embiid.
The Ilyasova signing was extra sweet because he has been able to reintegrate seamlessly, too. Markannen would be a great fit there. It's pretty easy to consider them foreseeably dangerous without even taking Fultz into account.
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Lol at Marshon Brooks.
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/982444300033282048 (https://twitter.com/NBA/status/982444300033282048)
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Or Embiid could have been taken 1st and be playing with Towns and Butler now.
Maybe. Maybe not. Does Minnesota still trade Kevin Love in that situation? Probably, but I don't think that Embiid and Towns can necessarily play together, as that just seems like an either/or but not both kind of arrangement, and I'd much rather have Embiid in such a scenario. Who knows?
So did Cleveland. Imagine if they had Embiid right now with a Lebron?
I don't think that Lebron would have been willing to wait for Embiid, though, and I'm not even sure that they can play together. Like, Embiid can play with anyone, but Lebron, like Jordan and Kobe, can only, well, play with certain kinds of players, namely those who don't need the ball, because you know that he's never going to relinquish his control of it, which has always greatly limited the ceiling of his teams, imo, and it's too late at this stage of his career for him to change his style of play. I think.
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The Cavs really wanted to win that game against the Sixers, Bron and Jeff Green both played 40 minutes. The Cavs don't have a really good team there but I guess some nights having LeBron might be enough. The "new" Cavs, Hood, Clarkson and Nance, didn't give the team much. They combined for 12 points and 5 rebounds and all three where in the minus in plus/minus.
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Danuel House might not be shooting well, as of right now, but deng dat pass, tho ;) ;D.
https://twitter.com/FOXSPORTSAZ/status/982450551878135808 (https://twitter.com/FOXSPORTSAZ/status/982450551878135808)
Edit - ugh. Rough night for him.
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Or Embiid could have been taken 1st and be playing with Towns and Butler now.
Maybe. Maybe not. Does Minnesota still trade Kevin Love in that situation? Probably, but I don't think that Embiid and Towns can necessarily play together, as that just seems like an either/or but not both kind of arrangement, and I'd much rather have Embiid in such a scenario. Who knows?
So did Cleveland. Imagine if they had Embiid right now with a Lebron?
I don't think that Lebron would have been willing to wait for Embiid, though, and I'm not even sure that they can play together. Like, Embiid can play with anyone, but Lebron, like Jordan and Kobe, can only, well, play with certain kinds of players, namely those who don't need the ball, because you know that he's never going to relinquish his control of it, which has always greatly limited the ceiling of his teams, imo, and it's too late at this stage of his career for him to change his style of play. I think.
You may be right about Lebron not willing to wait back then. Which was why they traded Wiggins for Love. But I think Lebron and Embiid together now would be pretty awesome together. Don’t feel Embiid is ball dominant. I think Simmons would have trouble meshing with a Lebron though.
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Anyone see Lebron choke and miss 3 free throws, then blow the lead and lose
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This is crazy, but the Atlantic Division runs the Eastern Conference lol. Top 3 team in the East are all from the same division. And then there are the Cavaliers and then the pretenders.
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Belinelli and Ilyasova have been great additions for the Sixers. Together with Roco and Redick, they are a much needed group of shooters around Simmons and Embiid. They are a top tier shooter away from being legit trouble imo. They should trade Fultz for Markannen. He would be the perfect fit next to Embiid.
I don't think Chicago would bite on that.
Markkanen would be a fantastic fit on that Sixers team though. His shooting ability from the PF spot next to Embiid and Simmons would be unfair.
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Belinelli and Ilyasova have been great additions for the Sixers. Together with Roco and Redick, they are a much needed group of shooters around Simmons and Embiid. They are a top tier shooter away from being legit trouble imo. They should trade Fultz for Markannen. He would be the perfect fit next to Embiid.
I don't think Chicago would bite on that.
Markkanen would be a fantastic fit on that Sixers team though. His shooting ability from the PF spot next to Embiid and Simmons would be unfair.
Fultz has no trade value right now.. Markanen is virtually untouchable. Probably wouldn't even catch a mid first rounder for the number 1 overall pick last yr.. And that is sad indeed.
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Belinelli and Ilyasova have been great additions for the Sixers. Together with Roco and Redick, they are a much needed group of shooters around Simmons and Embiid. They are a top tier shooter away from being legit trouble imo. They should trade Fultz for Markannen. He would be the perfect fit next to Embiid.
I don't think Chicago would bite on that.
Markkanen would be a fantastic fit on that Sixers team though. His shooting ability from the PF spot next to Embiid and Simmons would be unfair.
Fultz has no trade value right now.. Markanen is virtually untouchable. Probably wouldn't even catch a mid first rounder for the number 1 overall pick last yr.. And that is sad indeed.
Don't see anything sad about it. Fultz is playing now and looks pretty good. I don't think they'd have a problem getting a mid-first for him. However they're not going to trade him unless its in a package for an established star.
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
Watch this be the game we play everybody Brad said one game we will
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Tough to look at the standings. Without all the March injuries, I would see us as favorites for the 1 seed and then to come out of the east. And we’ve played the west leaders pretty well.
Going to enjoy whatever this team actually does, but we were *right there*.
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
Not sure why you are so afraid to face Washington. They have lost 12 of their last 18 games. They've lost 4 straight. They have been awful since February.
Now maybe teams like Cleveland or the Big 3 Celtics can play poorly before the playoffs then flip a switch and be really good but this Washington team isn't Cleveland or those old Boston teams.
None of Miami, Washington or Milwaukee scare me and I could care less which of the 3 we play.
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
Not sure why you are so afraid to face Washington. They have lost 12 of their last 18 games. They've lost 4 straight. They have been awful since February.
Now maybe teams like Cleveland or the Big 3 Celtics can play poorly before the playoffs then flip a switch and be really good but this Washington team isn't Cleveland or those old Boston teams.
None of Miami, Washington or Milwaukee scare me and I could care less which of the 3 we play.
So you do care. How much do you care, though, since you could not "not care less"? ;)
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
Not sure why you are so afraid to face Washington. They have lost 12 of their last 18 games. They've lost 4 straight. They have been awful since February.
Now maybe teams like Cleveland or the Big 3 Celtics can play poorly before the playoffs then flip a switch and be really good but this Washington team isn't Cleveland or those old Boston teams.
None of Miami, Washington or Milwaukee scare me and I could care less which of the 3 we play.
So you do care. How much do you care, though, since you could not "not care less"? ;)
Uh..oh. The grammar police. 👮👮👮
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Great win by the Bucks sans Giannis tonight. Miami and Milwaukee are both now a full game up over Washington with each having two games left. Miami owns the tiebreakers over both teams, and Washington will own the tiebreaker over Milwaukee.
As of now to avoid Washington and play one of Miami or Milwaukee, we'll most likely need to beat them on Tuesday night. By beating them on Tuesday night, that should be enough to keep them in 8th place to give Toronto a really tough first round series, so long as Milwaukee takes care of business Monday night against Orlando.
Our most ideal situation would be for Miami to lose out and Milwaukee to win in Orlando and lose to Philly, which would then put us in line for Miami in the first round and Philly (or Milwaukee) in the second round, all of which are very winnable series that we're still probably favored in.
Not sure why you are so afraid to face Washington. They have lost 12 of their last 18 games. They've lost 4 straight. They have been awful since February.
Now maybe teams like Cleveland or the Big 3 Celtics can play poorly before the playoffs then flip a switch and be really good but this Washington team isn't Cleveland or those old Boston teams.
None of Miami, Washington or Milwaukee scare me and I could care less which of the 3 we play.
So you do care. How much do you care, though, since you could not "not care less"? ;)
Uh..oh. The grammar police. 👮👮👮
LOL.....I couldn't resist.
I've just always found it funny how that phrase gets butchered by so many people, including even Obama.
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We want the Pacers to win today so the Cavs cannot clinch the tiebreaker over 76ers for #3 seed.
66-52 Pacers up over Hornets. A pretty high scoring game for the first half...
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
Hell no...
I have no confidence in the Sixers.. Their 15 game winning streak is a false sense of security.. They will fall back to earth come playoff time..
Much rather face em in the 2nd round if we get there than the Cavs.
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
Yeah, but our team is so depleted Philly's gonna crush in the second round and go the ECF. Then the Philly faithful will be downright incorrigible.
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
Embiid is certainly their critical piece but the Sixers are no longer a bad team without Embiid. Looking at full season stats, doesn't take into account the growth of their young players and their development as a team overall during the season. It also doesn't take into account the addition of Ilyasova and Belinelli who have really improved their bench play.
As for the playoffs, it sounds like Embiid may be ready for the 1st game. Assuming he's healthy, he should be even tougher since there is no concern of B2Bs.
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Well I know that Philly's schedule hasn't been super demanding, but I don't think you can say that a 14 game win streak is ever a fluke, especially without their best player. I am not sure I would rather face the Cavs, but if Embiid is back for the whole series, I am starting to wonder.
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
Embiid is certainly their critical piece but the Sixers are no longer a bad team without Embiid. Looking at full season stats, doesn't take into account the growth of their young players and their development as a team overall during the season. It also doesn't take into account the addition of Ilyasova and Belinelli who have really improved their bench play.
As for the playoffs, it sounds like Embiid may be ready for the 1st game. Assuming he's healthy, he should be even tougher since there is no concern of B2Bs.
I think C's probably lose to Philly in the 2nd round if both teams make it there. That said, I think C's have a better shot v. Philly than they would v. Cleveland. The only reason I'd rather lose to Cleveland than Philly is "optics" -- we'd be expected to lose to Cleveland but it would be a statement for Philly to beat the C's (even with no KI or GH). Would this matter in any real way? Probably not, but might lead mid-level FAs more toward Philly than Boston.
Philly is on the move. If healthy and Fultz develops they are perennial contenders for 10 years. They also pick up the 10th(ish) pick in this year's draft. Fultz plus #10 also give them an attractive package for a veteran if they want to go that direction.
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Well I know that Philly's schedule hasn't been super demanding, but I don't think you can say that a 14 game win streak is ever a fluke, especially without their best player. I am not sure I would rather face the Cavs, but if Embiid is back for the whole series, I am starting to wonder.
Cavs have LeBron James whose got probably the most playoff experience and finals experience in the East. The 76ers haven't sniffed a postseason since the Celtics ousted them in 2012. And they have an entirely new set of casts since the last time they were in it.
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Well I know that Philly's schedule hasn't been super demanding, but I don't think you can say that a 14 game win streak is ever a fluke, especially without their best player. I am not sure I would rather face the Cavs, but if Embiid is back for the whole series, I am starting to wonder.
Cavs have LeBron James whose got probably the most playoff experience and finals experience in the East. The 76ers haven't sniffed a postseason since the Celtics ousted them in 2012. And they have an entirely new set of casts since the last time they were in it.
I still said I wasn't sure...lol. I am fully aware of Lebron's experience. But there is a first time for everything, and new teams eventually break through and older superstars eventually become human. I suppose the smart money would still be on avoiding lebron, but Philly worries me as well, esp without the scoring we get from KI.
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
Embiid is certainly their critical piece but the Sixers are no longer a bad team without Embiid. Looking at full season stats, doesn't take into account the growth of their young players and their development as a team overall during the season. It also doesn't take into account the addition of Ilyasova and Belinelli who have really improved their bench play.
As for the playoffs, it sounds like Embiid may be ready for the 1st game. Assuming he's healthy, he should be even tougher since there is no concern of B2Bs.
I think C's probably lose to Philly in the 2nd round if both teams make it there. That said, I think C's have a better shot v. Philly than they would v. Cleveland. The only reason I'd rather lose to Cleveland than Philly is "optics" -- we'd be expected to lose to Cleveland but it would be a statement for Philly to beat the C's (even with no KI or GH). Would this matter in any real way? Probably not, but might lead mid-level FAs more toward Philly than Boston.
Philly is on the move. If healthy and Fultz develops they are perennial contenders for 10 years. They also pick up the 10th(ish) pick in this year's draft. Fultz plus #10 also give them an attractive package for a veteran if they want to go that direction.
Like Kawhi perhaps? Philly certainly has the trade ammo to do it. Now that wouldn't be a fun outcome for us. I know we are going to be battling Philly for the east in the next few years, and would rather they not have Kawhi.
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76'ers looking like they are going on win #14 in a row. Is this team really this good without Embiid? They certainly are on one massive hot streak. Maybe we are better off if they fall to #4?
they are massively overachieving by playing burned out tired teams or tanking teams
Advanced stats shows without embiid, sixers are bad
Embiid is certainly their critical piece but the Sixers are no longer a bad team without Embiid. Looking at full season stats, doesn't take into account the growth of their young players and their development as a team overall during the season. It also doesn't take into account the addition of Ilyasova and Belinelli who have really improved their bench play.
As for the playoffs, it sounds like Embiid may be ready for the 1st game. Assuming he's healthy, he should be even tougher since there is no concern of B2Bs.
I think C's probably lose to Philly in the 2nd round if both teams make it there. That said, I think C's have a better shot v. Philly than they would v. Cleveland. The only reason I'd rather lose to Cleveland than Philly is "optics" -- we'd be expected to lose to Cleveland but it would be a statement for Philly to beat the C's (even with no KI or GH). Would this matter in any real way? Probably not, but might lead mid-level FAs more toward Philly than Boston.
Philly is on the move. If healthy and Fultz develops they are perennial contenders for 10 years. They also pick up the 10th(ish) pick in this year's draft. Fultz plus #10 also give them an attractive package for a veteran if they want to go that direction.
Like Kawhi perhaps? Philly certainly has the trade ammo to do it. Now that wouldn't be a fun outcome for us. I know we are going to be battling Philly for the east in the next few years, and would rather they not have Kawhi.
Scary for the C's for sure. But C's getting Leonard for a package starting with JB or TR and the Sac pick would be scary to the Sixers too. A re-boot of a great rivalry has potential of developing over the next few years. Right now I see Embiid as the difference maker. He's MVP caliber right now and will get even better if healthy.
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Big Congrats to the Kings and their 12th straight year in lottery- here is hoping next year will be 13! Pathetic futility.
Magic going on 7 now I believe as well.
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Big Congrats to the Kings and their 12th straight year in lottery- here is hoping next year will be 13! Pathetic futility.
Magic going on 7 now I believe as well.
That is embarrassing. These franchise should be sent a letter by the league to get it together. After all of these picks, neither team has a player that should excite fans.
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Holy crap. Danuel House apparently loves playing against Golden State, as he scored a career high of 22 points, tonight, against the Warriors. Wat.
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Holy crap. Danuel House apparently loves playing against Golden State, as he scored a career high of 22 points, tonight, against the Warriors. Wat.
DHJ.
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Holy crap. Danuel House apparently loves playing against Golden State, as he scored a career high of 22 points, tonight, against the Warriors. Wat.
DHJ.
IS. DAT. DUDE. ;D
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Big Congrats to the Kings and their 12th straight year in lottery- here is hoping next year will be 13! Pathetic futility.
Magic going on 7 now I believe as well.
Even worse, there's still a chance Minnesota runs its streak to 14.
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We want the Pacers to win today so the Cavs cannot clinch the tiebreaker over 76ers for #3 seed.
66-52 Pacers up over Hornets. A pretty high scoring game for the first half...
Say what?
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It took him 7 years into his NBA career or just one year outside of Minnesota, however it is Ricky Rubio made the playoffs.
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Tonight, we probably want Miami to lose to OKC, and Milwaukee to beat ORL.
That way, MIA slips to #7 and MIL goes to #6 for the time being.
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I see not much love around the Western Conference in these forums huh.
OKC clinched playoff spot. Sadly, whoever are the #7 and #8 seeds unless they are OKC Thunder will get swept in round 1. That's just how brutal the West is these days lol.
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I see not much love around the Western Conference in these forums huh.
OKC clinched playoff spot. Sadly, whoever are the #7 and #8 seeds unless they are OKC Thunder will get swept in round 1. That's just how brutal the West is these days lol.
Awesome game in Denver. Nuggets just won their 5th straight vs. Portland. Still fighting for that 8th seed.
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Tonight, we probably want Miami to lose to OKC, and Milwaukee to beat ORL.
That way, MIA slips to #7 and MIL goes to #6 for the time being.
both happened
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Western Conference finish up +24 on the season over the East.
18th time in the last 19 seasons they have won the season series
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/04/nbas_western_conference_tops_e_1.html
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Western Conference finish up +24 on the season over the East.
18th time in the last 19 seasons they have won the season series
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/04/nbas_western_conference_tops_e_1.html
The last three times the East won the championship was led by LeBron James. Before that it was the Boston Celtics. Unreal.
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Big Congrats to the Kings and their 12th straight year in lottery- here is hoping next year will be 13! Pathetic futility.
Magic going on 7 now I believe as well.
Even worse, there's still a chance Minnesota runs its streak to 14.
It would be especially tragic if they choked their way out of the playoffs on the last day of the season.
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Western Conference finish up +24 on the season over the East.
18th time in the last 19 seasons they have won the season series
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/04/nbas_western_conference_tops_e_1.html
The last three times the East won the championship was led by LeBron James. Before that it was the Boston Celtics. Unreal.
That stat isn't that unreal. That just means that the West has won 6 of the last 10 - going back to the Cs championship in '08.
18 of the last 19 season series' is a little crazy, though. And with Cs on the precipice of greatness, I am surely not hoping for that to change any time soon!
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I would like the East to finish exactly how it is now:
Toronto vs Washington
Boston vs Miami
Philadelphia vs Milwaukee
Cleveland vs Indiana
Miami is a tough team but lacks the superstar-power of the other two teams.
Then of course let Cleveland and Toronto duke it out in the second round and we can take on winner of Sixers-Bucks.
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I would like the East to finish exactly how it is now:
Toronto vs Washington
Boston vs Miami
Philadelphia vs Milwaukee
Cleveland vs Indiana
Miami is a tough team but lacks the superstar-power of the other two teams.
Then of course let Cleveland and Toronto duke it out in the second round and we can take on winner of Sixers-Bucks.
Sshh .... <nojinx>
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https://twitter.com/FOXSports/status/983857675015405568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Futah-jazz&tfw_site=bleacherreport
Lol he's right, though.
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Hornets destroying the pacers
Looks like they’ve checked out until the playoffs
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Wow they came from Japan to seen kyrie lol
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Wow jazz killing GS!!
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Wow jazz killing GS!!
Let's see...
Kevin Durant is playing - check
Draymond Green is playing - check
Klay Thompson is playing - check
...wow, it looks like the Utah Jazz has the Warriors' number this year. This could finally be the end for them. I'd love to see the Warriors get an early playoff exit.
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Wow jazz killing GS!!
The Jazz are fighting for the 3 seed and their next game is vs. Portland. GS is just coasting.
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L M F A O ;D -
https://twitter.com/kilo__Rick/status/983893428667867136 (https://twitter.com/kilo__Rick/status/983893428667867136)
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There's a 32-year old guy named Andre Ingram that has played in the G league for 10 seasons (300+ games). He was called up tonight by the Lakers for his first NBA game. His wife and two young kids are there. He has 14 points in 17 mins on perfect shooting. Pretty cool story.
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There's a 32-year old guy named Andre Ingram that has played in the G league for 10 seasons (300+ games). He was called up tonight by the Lakers for his first NBA game. His wife and two young kids are there. He has 14 points in 17 mins on perfect shooting. Pretty cool story.
That is awesome.
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https://twitter.com/FOXSports/status/983857675015405568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Futah-jazz&tfw_site=bleacherreport
Lol he's right, though.
To bad for Donavan Mitchel the NBA doesn't use that definition
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Hearing Kevin Durant is declining his player's option for 2018-2019 season and set to become an unrestricted free agent per ESPN
Guess he got sick of losing without Steph Curry. Maybe he's getting ready to join up with Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers? Or maybe he wants to win with Harden and CP3 in Houston!
edit: sike he's just planning to restructure his contract with GSW.
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Hearing Kevin Durant is declining his player's option for 2018-2019 season and set to become an unrestricted free agent per ESPN
Guess he got sick of losing without Steph Curry. Maybe he's getting ready to join up with Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers? Or maybe he wants to win with Harden and CP3 in Houston!
edit: sike he's just planning to restructure his contract with GSW.
Nightmare fuel
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I can't believe that it's come down to the final game of the season for the Timberpups to actually have to win & make the playoffs.
I had made a $50 bet with a friend at the beginning of the season that MINN would make the playoffs. Thought it was going to be easy money. Now I get to sweat out tonight. At least the game is in Minn.
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I can't believe that it's come down to the final game of the season for the Timberpups to actually have to win & make the playoffs.
I had made a $50 bet with a friend at the beginning of the season that MINN would make the playoffs. Thought it was going to be easy money. Now I get to sweat out tonight. At least the game is in Minn.
Hope you win your bet - I'd've thought they'd be a lock too.
Imagine if we had that lotto system people trot out every so often where the best non-playoff team gets the highest chance at the top pick. Face Houston/GS and get a couple home games' worth of playoff revenue if you win or be in the driver's seat for the #1 if you lose would be a hot mess of incentives.
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I can't believe that it's come down to the final game of the season for the Timberpups to actually have to win & make the playoffs.
I had made a $50 bet with a friend at the beginning of the season that MINN would make the playoffs. Thought it was going to be easy money. Now I get to sweat out tonight. At least the game is in Minn.
My friend's a Timberpups fan (and also loved the Celtics because of KG). I'm hoping they beat Denver tonight to make the playoffs. To make the playoffs and have the rights to get swept in Round 1 while the loser of tonight's game goes home a broken man. ;D
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Bucks are being destroyed by Sixers...So why do we want to avoid them again?
Miami also looking lost and it seems the Raptors want them in round one but Wizards for some reason sat Wall...I think theyd want the Raptors in round one.
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Embiid out , Simmons with 0 points. And sixers are still killing the Bucks !
They might be going to the finals ...
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Fultz having a breakout type of game tonight so far. Just in time for the playoffs
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Fultz having a breakout type of game tonight so far. Just in time for the playoffs
80-44 at the half. Wow. Fultz has done some of everything in 10 mins. If he pans out, good grief...
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Lol looks like Cleveland saw the Philly score and decided resting Lebron and continuing his double-digit streak was enough for tonight.
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You hear the Sixers players talking about how tough he is to defend in practice. Nobody can stay in front of him / keep him from getting to the basket.
Fultz is going to be incredible once he gets comfortable in the league.
Lots of people were too quick to write him off. The talent is there.
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Man, this Wiz team is just arse backward. Play decently against the top competition, but can't beat the lower-tier teams with consistency.
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Cavs so far has also given up...probably scoreboard watching since Philly is killing the Bucks, no sense in fighting for the 3rd seed.
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This Nuggets v TWolves game looks like it'll go down to the wire
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Heat and Wizards both making 4th quarter comebacks.
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Heat and Wizards both making 4th quarter comebacks.
Go Florida ;D
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Heat and Wizards both making 4th quarter comebacks.
This is why NO ONE takes Toronto seriously.
A bunch of choke artists they are.
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You hear the Sixers players talking about how tough he is to defend in practice. Nobody can stay in front of him / keep him from getting to the basket.
Fultz is going to be incredible once he gets comfortable in the league.
Lots of people were too quick to write him off. The talent is there.
He’s still not shooting 3s... do something is still up.
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Oh man! TWolves and Nuggets in OT for the last playoff spot!
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Tight game between Nuggets and Wolves.
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Oh man! TWolves and Nuggets in OT for the last playoff spot!
L m a o at Thibs if Minnesota fails to make the postseason. It never should have even come down to this, imo, even with Butler's injury, as they have plenty of talent.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
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Heat and Wizards both making 4th quarter comebacks.
This is why NO ONE takes Toronto seriously.
A bunch of choke artists they are.
They're a completely different, and much better, team with Siakam and Poeltl on the floor, imo. Those guys have to be in the starting lineup next year, with Ibaka coming off the bench as the 3rd big guy in their rotation if they want to take another step, but yeah, I agree about Derozan and Lowry going into Tom Gordon mode once the playoffs begin. They haven't even won the first game in any of their past playoff series, irrespective of whether or not they've been on the road or not ::). Oh lawd.
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Wolves up 2, 14 seconds to go :o
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110-106 with 10.1 seconds to go.
Imagine Tom Thibs blow this lead.
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Minnesota fans are so anxious to get swept in Round 1. But I must praise them for making it far and finally making it to the playoffs.
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Glad the Wolves won. With Butler, they were in the 3-4 seed range. That he came back from meniscus surgery in 6 weeks to make this late push is awesome. I wish we had traded the BKN pick for him and worked out the logjam at wing afterward. Great late defense by Taj, too. The Wolves earned it.
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Oh man! TWolves and Nuggets in OT for the last playoff spot!
L m a o at Thibs if Minnesota fails to make the postseason. It never should have even come down to this, imo, even with Butler's injury, as they have plenty of talent.
C'mon. The Western Conference is a straight up bloodbath. There's 1.5 games separating the 3-8 seeds.
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Glad the Wolves won. With Butler, they were in the 3-4 seed range. That he came back from meniscus surgery in 6 weeks to make this late push is awesome. I wish we had traded the BKN pick for him and worked out the logjam at wing afterward. Great late defense by Taj, too. The Wolves earned it.
Heck no Wolves got Butler cheap lol
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glade wolves won.
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Oh man! TWolves and Nuggets in OT for the last playoff spot!
L m a o at Thibs if Minnesota fails to make the postseason. It never should have even come down to this, imo, even with Butler's injury, as they have plenty of talent.
C'mon. The Western Conference is a straight up bloodbath. There's 1.5 games separating the 3-8 seeds.
I realize that, but at the same time, I just don't think much of Thibs as a coach :-\. Hopefully, this won't be the last postseason for Butler, either, owing to his knee injury. Ugh.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
Harsh. I'm sure his family loves him. And then there's always Sacto or NYK.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Idk, maybe it's just me, but I've always seen him as a "the lights are on but nobody's home" type of player. He has all the physical tools, but the motor is severely lacking, if he even has one, at all, not to mention the fact that he hasn't improved since he's entered the league, imo.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Idk, maybe it's just me, but I've always seen him as a "the lights are on but nobody's home" type of player. He has all the physical tools, but the motor is severely lacking, if he even has one, at all, not to mention the fact that he hasn't improved since he entered the league, imo.
Eh, he definitely regressed this season but I think that has more to do with his role with Butler and Thibs.
He has all the tools to be a great player. He's a fair FT shooter and can hit the 3 (but could do it more consistently). He's extremely athletic and still very young.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Idk, maybe it's just me, but I've always seen him as a "the lights are on but nobody's home" type of player. He has all the physical tools, but the motor is severely lacking, if he even has one, at all, not to mention the fact that he hasn't improved since he's entered the league, imo.
Teams can sell themselves on potential. And its not like he's a terrible player, he's a 20 point scorer. He's just s terrible fit there. On a team like that, your 3rd guy has to buy into his role and have the BBIQ to adapt his game to fit the team's needs ala Chris Bosh. I don't see that in him.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Idk, maybe it's just me, but I've always seen him as a "the lights are on but nobody's home" type of player. He has all the physical tools, but the motor is severely lacking, if he even has one, at all, not to mention the fact that he hasn't improved since he entered the league, imo.
Eh, he definitely regressed this season but I think that has more to do with his role with Butler and Thibs.
He has all the tools to be a great player. He's a fair FT shooter and can hit the 3 (but could do it more consistently). He's extremely athletic and still very young.
Oh I definitely agree about his regression, aside from whenever he plays against Lebron, lol, so that's awesome, but he just doesn't seem to have the mentality of someone, like, say, Jaylen Brown, not to mention the fact that Wiggin is just too one-dimensional, for me, and I don't think that Towns has that fire, either.
Granted, he puts up great numbers, but he just doesn't strike me as having that kind of dominant personality that is needed to get the most out of his talent, imo, which is the biggest difference between him and Embiid, for example. Put the latter on the Timberwolves, for example, and even without Butler, they'd make the playoffs, but maybe I'm wrong.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Brooklyn trade 3 future firsts for Teague and Wiggins.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
a good chunk of CB believes wiggins is worth the contract baaing it on numbers when even most wolves fans arent high on him. Just check out wolves reddit or canis hoopus.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
He's barely 23 and has a career 19.7ppg average while missing two games in 4 seasons.
I'm sure plenty of teams would take him.
Idk, maybe it's just me, but I've always seen him as a "the lights are on but nobody's home" type of player. He has all the physical tools, but the motor is severely lacking, if he even has one, at all, not to mention the fact that he hasn't improved since he's entered the league, imo.
Teams can sell themselves on potential. And its not like he's a terrible player, he's a 20 point scorer. He's just s terrible fit there. On a team like that, your 3rd guy has to buy into his role and have the BBIQ to adapt his game to fit the team's needs ala Chris Bosh. I don't see that in him.
I agree on potential, but do you think that they'd be able to swallow that contract? Admittedly, I never think about this, lol, but which teams would line up to get him, so to speak, in your view?
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
Look what I got in our celticsblog mock deadline for him. I was able to get Kemba Walker AND a 1st rounder. I had to take back Batum, but I was also able to get rid of Teague and Muhhammad. It's not like his contract makes him untradable, he still has value.
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Fultz had a triple double in 25 mins tonight. What a ridiculous assembly of young talent.
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Lol. Who would have figured sterling brown couldn't stop him?
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Lol. Who would have figured sterling brown couldn't stop him?
Eh, who cares. His yips were serious. I'm surprised he has shown flashes at all this year. If Embiid stays healthy, you don't think they'll be a future problem?
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Fultz had a triple double in 25 mins tonight. What a ridiculous assembly of young talent.
I know Fultz had a really rough start, but in the last few weeks he has been showing some signs of being the elite player that lots of people thought he was. Philly may not win a series this year, but if Embiid stays healthy they are going to be battling us for best in the east for the next 5 years.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
Look what I got in our celticsblog mock deadline for him. I was able to get Kemba Walker AND a 1st rounder. I had to take back Batum, but I was also able to get rid of Teague and Muhhammad. It's not like his contract makes him untradable, he still has value.
Dude...what you can get for a player in a fantasy draft/basketball game against, who the heck knows.....possibly little kids or uninformed/inexperienced/unintelligent people and what you can trade Wiggins for when dealing with actual professional basketball executives and experts are two different things. If you really think Wiggins is the same value as what you got for him in a fantasy basketball game, I don't know what to tell you except to stop playing 2K18 so much.
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POR just beat up on Utah, earned the 3 seed (vs. Pels). Utah got a tough draw at the 4 seed (vs. OKC).
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It looks like Jazz will not have home-court advantage in round 1.
#1 Rockets hosting the #8 Wolves...#1 Rockets sweep.
#2 Warriors will give the #7 Spurs a rematch of the century...#2 Warriors sweep.
#3 Blazers will go head to head with #6 Pelicans...#6 Pelicans in 7.
#4 Thunder will duke it out with #5 Jazz...#5 Jazz in 6.
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Career high 25 points and 12 rebounds for GP II :). #Cool
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I wonder how many career highs are made by players on the last day of the season. My guess is a lot.
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It looks like Jazz will not have home-court advantage in round 1.
#1 Rockets hosting the #8 Wolves...#1 Rockets sweep.
#2 Warriors will give the #7 Spurs a rematch of the century...#2 Warriors sweep.
#3 Blazers will go head to head with #6 Pelicans...#6 Pelicans in 7.
#4 Thunder will duke it out with #5 Jazz...#5 Jazz in 6.
[dang], Warriors really lucked out avoiding OKC AND Jazz in either round (neither will make WCF).
Neither Rockets nor Warriors sweep, but probably win in 5-6.
I think Blazers and Thunder win their series', but more faith in Jazz to pull "upset" than Pelicans.
East looks like funner matchups.
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I wonder how many career highs are made by players on the last day of the season. My guess is a lot.
Pretty much, lol. Just look at Avery Bradley.
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I wonder how many career highs are made by players on the last day of the season. My guess is a lot.
Pretty much, lol. Just look at Avery Bradley.
Jordan Crawford?
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Fultz got his first triple double last night.
Happy for the kid.
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I can't believe that it's come down to the final game of the season for the Timberpups to actually have to win & make the playoffs.
I had made a $50 bet with a friend at the beginning of the season that MINN would make the playoffs. Thought it was going to be easy money. Now I get to sweat out tonight. At least the game is in Minn.
Won my $50....barely. :P
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
Look what I got in our celticsblog mock deadline for him. I was able to get Kemba Walker AND a 1st rounder. I had to take back Batum, but I was also able to get rid of Teague and Muhhammad. It's not like his contract makes him untradable, he still has value.
Dude...what you can get for a player in a fantasy draft/basketball game against, who the heck knows.....possibly little kids or uninformed/inexperienced/unintelligent people and what you can trade Wiggins for when dealing with actual professional basketball executives and experts are two different things. If you really think Wiggins is the same value as what you got for him in a fantasy basketball game, I don't know what to tell you except to stop playing 2K18 so much.
Dude...Obviously I'm not saying he's worth that simply because I was able to trade him for that much. I just brought it up to respond to the notion that he is untradabale and isn't an asset. I thought it might be fun to discuss. No need to get your panties in a bunch lol.
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If you're Minny, you explore all options of trading Wiggins this offseason, right? KAT and Butler have to the be the core and you need to surround them with more shooting. Either that or Wiggins has to become the defense stopper he's physically capable of being. He's just too passive defensively and inefficient offensively to work there as is.
Yeah, that was a horrible contract. More to the point, who's going to want him?
Look what I got in our celticsblog mock deadline for him. I was able to get Kemba Walker AND a 1st rounder. I had to take back Batum, but I was also able to get rid of Teague and Muhhammad. It's not like his contract makes him untradable, he still has value.
Dude...what you can get for a player in a fantasy draft/basketball game against, who the heck knows.....possibly little kids or uninformed/inexperienced/unintelligent people and what you can trade Wiggins for when dealing with actual professional basketball executives and experts are two different things. If you really think Wiggins is the same value as what you got for him in a fantasy basketball game, I don't know what to tell you except to stop playing 2K18 so much.
Dude...Obviously I'm not saying he's worth that simply because I was able to trade him for that much. I just brought it up to respond to the notion that he is untradabale and isn't an asset. I thought it might be fun to discuss. No need to get your panties in a bunch lol.
Sorry, but after rereading your post 3 more times, it still sure seems like you are saying Wiggins has value because of the return you got for him in a fantasy basketball game. If that's not what you were trying to convey, that's cool but reread your post. It sure does seem that's what you were trying to say.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
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POR just beat up on Utah, earned the 3 seed (vs. Pels). Utah got a tough draw at the 4 seed (vs. OKC).
Talk about an implosion
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
So where is he going to go where he won't have to deal with tanking?
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
So where is he going to go where he won't have to deal with tanking?
Charlotte, New York, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, OKC, Washington, Portland? Just spitballing, these guys seem to have open spots, maybe i'm off base on these.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
So where is he going to go where he won't have to deal with tanking?
Charlotte, New York, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, OKC, Washington, Portland? Just spitballing, these guys seem to have open spots, maybe i'm off base on these.
Most of those places still have coaches. Most of those places aren't too desirable.
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
So where is he going to go where he won't have to deal with tanking?
Charlotte, New York, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, OKC, Washington, Portland? Just spitballing, these guys seem to have open spots, maybe i'm off base on these.
Most of those places still have coaches. Most of those places aren't too desirable.
I mean, Portland and Denver just had massively disappointing seasons and will need to make changes...those are pretty desirable.
Milwaukee, Memphis, Orlando are open
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/989321420776894465
The Atlanta Hawks and coach Mike Budenholzer have mutually agreed to part ways, league sources told ESPN. Story soon on ESPN.
Mike don't do tanks!!!!
So where is he going to go where he won't have to deal with tanking?
Charlotte, New York, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Milwaukee, Memphis, OKC, Washington, Portland? Just spitballing, these guys seem to have open spots, maybe i'm off base on these.
Most of those places still have coaches. Most of those places aren't too desirable.
I mean, Portland and Denver just had massively disappointing seasons and will need to make changes...those are pretty desirable.
Milwaukee, Memphis, Orlando are open
I never saw Portland as a top 4 best team in the west. Did anyone?
So I don't feel ilke they disapointed the realistic expectations. The truth has been the same for a long time now. If you don't have good wings, and Portland certainly doesn't have them, you can't hope for success in the postseason.
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Billy Donovan’s going to be back
Thunder GM Sam Presti says Billy Donovan will return next season
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23385774/oklahoma-city-thunder-gm-sam-presti-says-billy-donovan-return-coach-next-season
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Billy Donovan’s going to be back
Thunder GM Sam Presti says Billy Donovan will return next season
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23385774/oklahoma-city-thunder-gm-sam-presti-says-billy-donovan-return-coach-next-season
What a terrible move...
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Billy Donovan’s going to be back
Thunder GM Sam Presti says Billy Donovan will return next season
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23385774/oklahoma-city-thunder-gm-sam-presti-says-billy-donovan-return-coach-next-season
I don't think it's Donovan.
Russ is an absolute beast, but I don't think it is easy to play with him. George isn't that good offensively. Carmelo isn't that good at basketball.
I'd keep Russ/Adams/Roberson and turn the rest of the team over. They should let Russ average a triple double for a couple more years dominating the ball while they develop young talent. With Russ and Adams, they're only 1-2 players away.
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Breaking: Stan Van Gundy and the Pistons have parted ways after 4 seasons, sources tell @wojespn.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/993542086195646464
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Breaking: Stan Van Gundy and the Pistons have parted ways after 4 seasons, sources tell @wojespn.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/993542086195646464
i always luv him for taking AB and sending us Morris and Baynes ......cheers Stan van
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Billy Donovan’s going to be back
Thunder GM Sam Presti says Billy Donovan will return next season
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23385774/oklahoma-city-thunder-gm-sam-presti-says-billy-donovan-return-coach-next-season
What a terrible move...
yeah he belongs in the NCAA . Where kids will listen to him and respect him. You got to be a Pops , or CBS brain to command 30 year old millionairs respect.
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The Miami Heat have declined their $1.6 million option for 2018-19 on forward Jordan Mickey, making him a free agent, the team confirmed Thursday.
Mickey, signed as a free agent last summer, appeared in 23 games during the regular season, including three starts. He did not appear in the playoffs, on the team's inactive list for all five games against the Philadelphia 76ers.
That's probably a wrap for Mickey's NBA career, at least for the foreseeable future. The guy should probably go to Europe for several years, try to reinvent himself, and then maybe he can be part of an NBA rotation.
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yesterday's news I think
Thunder's Paul George undergoes knee surgery and is expected to be sidelined 6-8 weeks
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/thunders-paul-george-undergoes-knee-surgery-and-is-expected-to-be-sidelined-6-8-weeks/
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1006890649210277889
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1006890649210277889
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Also TJ McConnell. No surprise with either.
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1006890649210277889
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Also TJ McConnell. No surprise with either.
I am actually surprised they did this with Holmes. He was completely out of the rotation and Brown doesn't seem to trust to him play defense. He wasn't even playing in games they were short-handed sometimes.
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1006890649210277889
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Also TJ McConnell. No surprise with either.
I am actually surprised they did this with Holmes. He was completely out of the rotation and Brown doesn't seem to trust to him play defense. He wasn't even playing in games they were short-handed sometimes.
Holmes may have been a good pickup as a vet min with the Cs.
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1006890649210277889
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Also TJ McConnell. No surprise with either.
I am actually surprised they did this with Holmes. He was completely out of the rotation and Brown doesn't seem to trust to him play defense. He wasn't even playing in games they were short-handed sometimes.
He still has utility and is on a value contract at the minimum. I’m sure he’s movable in an instant if they wind up needing the extra cap space that he takes up.