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Title: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on July 12, 2017, 11:09:34 PM
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Boston Celtics (3-0) vs Golden State Warriors (1-3)
Thursday, July 13, 2017
6:00 PM ET
Las Vegas Summer League Game #4
NBA TV
Thomas and Mack Center

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Celtics Summer League Roster
45 Kadeem Allen
52 Rosco Allen
26 Jabari Bird
7 Jaylen Brown
38 Perrin Buford
9 Demetrius Jackson
63 Landen Lucas
51 Abdel Nader
37 Semi Ojeleye
28 Terran Petteway
40 Scoochie Smith
11 Jayson Tatum
60 Trevor Thompson
46 Scott Wood
54 Ante Zizic

Possible Starting Lineup
Demetrius Jackson,  Kadeem Allen, Jayson Tatum, Semi Ojeleye, Ante Zizic

Injured

Abdel Nader (strained left calf)   questionable
Jaylen Brown (thigh bruise) questionable

Players to Watch
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Jayson Tatum - The Celtics first round pick, #3 overall, will continue to have the spotlight on him throughout his first Summer League. In Utah, Tatum averaged 18.7 points on 46.8% shooting along with 9.7 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 2.3 steals.  He is also the player that most of his fellow players say has stood out in this year's Summer League. 
Demetrius Jackson -  After sitting out the final two games in Utah, Jackson was back on the court against the Lakers.  He finished with 6 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists.  Most importantly,  the Celtics are 4-0 with Jackson and 0-2 without him.  He finished against the Sixers with 14 points and 4 assists. 
Ante Zizic - The Celtics drafted Zizic 23rd in 2016.  He impressed this past season playing for David Blatt with Darüşşafaka Doğuş.  Blatt described him as having a nose for the ball and being unafraid of anything.   His play has gotten stronger with each game, as he is getting more used to the faster NBA game.  He had 12 points, 13 rebounds and 1 block against the Sixers. 
Semi Ojeleye - Ojeleye was projected to be drafted in the 20's but slid to the Celtics at 37.  He struggled somewhat in Utah, but came on strong in his first game in Vegas with 19 points including 5-9 from beyond the arc with 3 rebounds.  He played well once again vs the Blazers with 9 points and 5 rebounds.  Brad Stevens had a lot of good things to say about his defense after the Sixers game. 

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Warriors Summer League Roster
12  Bryce Alford
18  Noah Allen
2   Jordan Bell
25  Chris Boucher
32  Jabari Brown
8  Elgin Cook
10  Deividas Dulkys
31  Dylan Ennis
33 Alex Hamilton
40  Justin Harper
15  Damian Jones
5   Kevon Looney
0   Patrick McCaw
6   Xavier Munford
7   Joe Rahon
19  Tai Webster
55  Darrell Williams
4   JaCorey Williams

Possible Starting Lineup
Alex Hamilton, Bryce Alford, Patrick McCaw, Jordan Bell, Damian Jones

Players to Watch
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Bryce Alford - Alford is the son of Steve Alford, who won a national championship with Indiana University and who coached Bryce at UCLA.  Bryce went undrafted in the 2017 draft.  He finished with 13 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists against the Wolves.
Jordan Bell - Bell was the 38th pick in the 2017 draft, one pick behind the Celtics' Semi Ojeleye.  Bell finished with 6 points, 16 rebounds and 3 blocks against the Wolves. 
Elgin Cook - Cook played for the Santa Cruz Warriors in the D League last season.  He finished with 12 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist against the Wolves. 
Patrick McCaw - McCaw played with the Warriors last season and finished with 26 points, 4 rebounds and 5 assists against the Wolves. 

Game Notes
The Celtics begin the Las Vegas Summer League playoffs with a game against the Golden State Warriors.  After losing all three preliminary games, the Warriors entered the tournament stage of Summer League as the 22nd seed with a 0-3 record. 

The winner of this game between the Celtics and the Warriors will face the winner of the 19th seed Sacramento Kings vs the 3rd seed Dallas Mavericks in the Quarterfinals on July 15th.  The Mavericks, like the Celtics, were 3-0 in preliminary play and had a bye on the first day of tournament play.   

Jaylen Brown bruised his thigh in the game vs the Sixers and is questionable for this game.  Abdel Nader missed the last 2 games with a strained calf and is also questionable for this game.  Brown and Nader were a big part of what the Celtics were doing and if either one can't play, they will need someone else to step up and give the Celtics a boost. 

Golden State’s Summer League roster is highlighted by current Warriors players Damian Jones, Kevon Looney and Patrick McCaw, who helped the Warriors win the title last season.  They also feature Jordan Bell, the 38th selection in the 2017 draft. Additionally, the Warriors include Jabari Brown, Elgin Cook and Alex Hamilton, who were all members of the Santa Cruz Warriors, Golden State's D League team. 

The 6th seeded Celtics had a bye in the first round while the Warriors beat the Timberwolves to advance to a second-round game against  3-0 Boston.

Keys to the Game
Chemistry - Both of these teams have been together for long enough to begin building chemistry as a team.  We should see the benefits of this chemistry in the passing and the plays run on the court. 
Defense -  Defense is always a key to winning, whether in Summer League, regular season or especially in the playoffs.  The Celtics need to play tough defense to give themselves a chance to win. 
Rebound - Rebounding was one of the Celtics' weaknesses last season.  With Ante Zizic and Semi Ojeleye and Jayson Tatum,  hopefully the Celtics are in the process of remedying that weakness.
Injuries/Resting Players - The Celtics are a little banged up and it's always possible that the coaches decide to rest some players in order to get a better look at others.  The Celtics who play need to pick up their game and push themselves to get the win. 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 12, 2017, 11:12:03 PM
These games are all the sweeter knowing how soon they will be over!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 12, 2017, 11:16:15 PM
Second! Liam is faster, but I am in the starting lineup.  ;D

Tp tp flc for another great thread. And a tp for Liam for being fast.

Oh, and before I forget.....

Goooooooooooooooooooo baby Celtics! !   ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: trickybilly on July 12, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
More Zizic! More Zizic!

More Tatum! More Tatum!

More Semi! More Semi!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on July 12, 2017, 11:23:45 PM
TP to liam, hwangjini_1, and trickybilly for being first to post in the game thread!!


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!! 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Ogaju on July 12, 2017, 11:37:45 PM
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo CELTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TP to FlCf.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on July 12, 2017, 11:38:33 PM
Tatum is doing so well and I'm very proud of him. People made a big deal that he had 0 assists in a game, but in SL some guys don't finish or execute. Also, in hs Tatum was a point-forward and according to Jeff Goodman (who has been pretty on about Tatum so far) Tatum focused more on extending his shooting range and scoring the ball while at Duke because that is what they needed from him. Tatum should be a true triple threat and once he starts playing with actual NBA players in CBS system he should flow and make the right choices.

Walter Mcarty says Tatum will come into training camp much improved. IMO he has more than 12 weeks after SL to improve his body, mind, and skills before the season.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on July 12, 2017, 11:40:31 PM
Anyone else think there is a good chance Tatum will eventually start at the 2 for us?

IT
Tatum
Hayward
Morris
Horford
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 12, 2017, 11:48:34 PM
Anyone else think there is a good chance Tatum will eventually start at the 2 for us?

IT
Tatum
Hayward
Morris
Horford

No chance at all that Tatum is a 2. 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 12, 2017, 11:52:23 PM
Is Tatum going to be wearing his new jersey number?

RIP 7-11
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 13, 2017, 09:12:17 AM
Go Celts. Kick some ass!!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
As long as Brown and Tatum play. Celts will win!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticsBR on July 13, 2017, 03:20:20 PM
It will be the first of the 7 wins in a row the Celtics will get against Golden State in the period of 12 months after the 2017 Finals!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 04:40:23 PM
Jaylen and Jayson are both out tonight (and presumably the rest of summer league).  It was a fun week!

Nader is also out. 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
Can we win the summer league tourney without brown and Tatum
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 04:47:17 PM
Can we win the summer league tourney without brown and Tatum

Depends if we trade or release Jackson before his contract guarantees on Saturday.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 13, 2017, 04:54:06 PM
I hope Bird turns into Bird tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: jpotter33 on July 13, 2017, 04:58:19 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 04:59:25 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?

The stated reason was patellar tendonitis.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: jpotter33 on July 13, 2017, 05:01:56 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?

The stated reason was patellar tendonitis.

Oh, I didn't see that. I thought they were holding him out to just hold him out. That makes more sense. No reason to risk anything.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 13, 2017, 05:11:55 PM
JB, Tatum and Nader out....

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: BitterJim on July 13, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Can't wait to see the Maine Red Claws' summer league team tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: danglertx on July 13, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
Can we win the summer league tourney without brown and Tatum

Depends if we trade or release Jackson before his contract guarantees on Saturday.

We can't guarantee Jackson can we?  He is awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on July 13, 2017, 05:36:03 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?

The stated reason was patellar tendonitis.

Oh, I didn't see that. I thought they were holding him out to just hold him out. That makes more sense. No reason to risk anything.
What is the story with Patellar Tendonitis?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?

The stated reason was patellar tendonitis.

Oh, I didn't see that. I thought they were holding him out to just hold him out. That makes more sense. No reason to risk anything.
What is the story with Patellar Tendonitis?

Presumably his knee is a little sore because he played 6 games in 8 days and the team is being hyper-cautious since its summer league.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: jpotter33 on July 13, 2017, 05:43:53 PM
Ugh, what's the point of even watching now? Why hold Tatum out? I understand with Brown and his thigh, but why hold out a perfectly healthy Tatum?

The stated reason was patellar tendonitis.

Oh, I didn't see that. I thought they were holding him out to just hold him out. That makes more sense. No reason to risk anything.
What is the story with Patellar Tendonitis?

Presumably his knee is a little sore because he played 6 games in 8 days and the team is being hyper-cautious since its summer league.

Hopefully he'll play on Friday. If both Boston and Dallas win, we'd play each other. Would love to see the Tatum/Smith Jr. battle.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:09:50 PM
Zizic with the dunk!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Good chance for fringe guys to show what they've got.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: dreamgreen on July 13, 2017, 06:10:37 PM
Bah no 7-11! I was waiting all day for this.  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
so with Brown, Tatum, and Nader out, how many of the guys playing today are going to make the roster? 

Zizic, Semi?

Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: max215 on July 13, 2017, 06:18:02 PM
I'd be very happy to have Bird on a two-way.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: chilidawg on July 13, 2017, 06:19:17 PM
Maybe Bird and Allen on two way contracts.  Bird looking good early on, he's got a nice looking jumper.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 13, 2017, 06:21:40 PM
Not watching -- just took a look at the stats.   Zizic already has 7 rebounds -- really?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 06:22:00 PM
Missed almost the entire first quarter thinking it was on ESPN! Who looks good?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: jpotter33 on July 13, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
Wait, what channel are you guys watching this on? It's supposed to be on ESPN2 but it's not on yet.  ???
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Wait, what channel are you guys watching this on? It's supposed to be on ESPN2 but it's not on yet.  ???

it is on NBATV on sling right now
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:24:47 PM
Missed almost the entire first quarter thinking it was on ESPN! Who looks good?

Bird playing pretty well, hitting shots. 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
I hope Bird turns into Bird tonight!

now that will be a trick.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
lol at the threads bemoaning Zizic and not drafting Bell.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:28:03 PM
how we goona be summer champ wif out Brown , Tatum and Nader
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
how we goona be summer champ wif out Brown , Tatum and Nader

Thats what I said, but right now we are up 22-5 in the 2nd quarter haha
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: chilidawg on July 13, 2017, 06:28:45 PM
In a really poorly played game, Pettaway stands out for being really bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 06:31:14 PM
I missed half the game  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
In a really poorly played game, Pettaway stands out for being really bad.

That's my memory from his college days at Nebraska, too.  Athletic, but a terrible basketball player.  Surprised he's still getting even summer league looks. Although I bet with Boston's loaded roster, especially at the wing, it was difficult to recruit players the team obviously wasn't going to keep beyond Vegas.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
I guess we really dont need Tatum, Brown or Nader
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Can we win the summer league tourney without brown and Tatum

this is the playoffs! what is CBS thinking
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 06:36:55 PM
Zizic is having another really good game...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: chilidawg on July 13, 2017, 06:38:11 PM
Doing a good job of feeding the big guy in the post.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
Tatum and Brown aren't playing??
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: chilidawg on July 13, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Can we win the summer league tourney without brown and Tatum

this is the playoffs! what is CBS thinking

Saving them for the later rounds.  Smart like a fox.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:38:56 PM
Zizic is having another really good game...

yeah Zizic is looking stronger and a bit quicker (moderately) but having trouble finishing.
he is getting to the line and putting himself in good positions.  seems like it has been a slow upward curve for him over all in summer league.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 13, 2017, 06:39:10 PM
You think if we advance Tatum might make an appearance?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:41:09 PM
Tatum and Brown aren't playing??

nope ...neither is Nader

Zizic , Lucus and Bird handling business
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:41:55 PM
You think if we advance Tatum might make an appearance?

If it is the championship game Id guess yes
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 13, 2017, 06:43:21 PM
You think if we advance Tatum might make an appearance?

If it is the championship game Id guess yes

Why though? Aren't they all basically saying it's meaningless. They just sat their 3 best players in the first round.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: mr. dee on July 13, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Tatum and Brown aren't playing??

And the team is up by 20. Trade them both  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
Jackson has had a solid 1/2 in the 1st today.  Seems like the best he has played all summer league.  Might not change his outcome, but at least he is still playing and giving effort...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 06:45:20 PM
Jackson has had a solid 1/2 in the 1st today.  Seems like the best he has played all summer league.  Might not change his outcome, but at least he is still playing and giving effort...

The Celtics summer league squad has given great effort in all the games....
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
Nice move by Bird!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: blink on July 13, 2017, 06:51:23 PM
is that last prayer going to count?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Phantom255x on July 13, 2017, 06:51:33 PM
Zizic with 8 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Last 2.5 games for Zizic:

(https://www.exboyfriendrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rebounds-everywhere.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
that last GS bomb shot did not look to beat the clock to me .....l :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: PAOBoston on July 13, 2017, 06:58:55 PM
that last GS bomb shot did not look to beat the clock to me .....l :-X
Don't think he made it either.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:02:57 PM
Bird is having a very nice game...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: max215 on July 13, 2017, 07:03:02 PM
Ante up, boys!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: PAOBoston on July 13, 2017, 07:03:29 PM
Zizic is putting on a show tonight! Nice jumper!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 13, 2017, 07:04:31 PM
Zizic with 8 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Last 2.5 games for Zizic:

(https://www.exboyfriendrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rebounds-everywhere.jpg)

I don't know if I'm supposed to cheer when we get a rebound. It's all just so new to me.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:04:40 PM
Zizic is putting on a show tonight! Nice jumper!

He has good verticality around the rim...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:07:13 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:07:47 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

He's actually done well passing out of doubles today.

BLOOOWWWOUUUT!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: danglertx on July 13, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Buford even hit a sweet turn around baseline jumper.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:09:53 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...

And 0 turnovers..
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:10:18 PM
That's all the media wants to talk about, Bradley getting traded.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:10:25 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...

And 0 turnovers..

Yes, thank you...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
This summer league team has some shooting....
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:14:28 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: kraidstar on July 13, 2017, 07:16:13 PM
That's all the media wants to talk about, Bradley getting traded.  ::)

They don't seem to realize that Smart and Rozier will likely pick up the slack on D, and Hayward and Tatum will add offense.

We will be fine.

LOL, now they are bemoaning the loss of Amir.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:17:37 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:18:31 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..

Probably the best in Vegas...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: kraidstar on July 13, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:19:58 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:22:00 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.

And that's a bad thing? lol It's not like the C's didn't need size...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.

And that's a bad thing? lol It's not like the C's didn't need size...
The size difference won't be nearly as much at the next level.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:25:33 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.

And that's a bad thing? lol It's not like the C's didn't need size...
The size difference won't be nearly as much at the next level.

Zizic is already bigger and stronger than Zeller.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
Really bad foul by Smith...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:26:51 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.

And that's a bad thing? lol It's not like the C's didn't need size...
The size difference won't be nearly as much at the next level.

Why wouldn't it? It does whenever the C's are getting pounded on the glass.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: smokeablount on July 13, 2017, 07:28:27 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

TP. This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:28:50 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

IDK man, he looks like far and away like the best big in the SL. He destroyed Zach Collins and now he's eating up Bell..
Was't surprised about Collins, Zizic is just too big. In fact, most of his success in SL seems to be because he is bigger than everybody else.

And that's a bad thing? lol It's not like the C's didn't need size...
The size difference won't be nearly as much at the next level.

Why wouldn't it? It does whenever the C's are getting pounded on the glass.
]

Ante is going to be a big strong MFer at every level, just like he's been in Adriatic League, Euroleague, and now SL.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: smokeablount on July 13, 2017, 07:31:51 PM
[dang]. I was holding out hope that Semi, Zizic, and DJax would go back in.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
[dang]. I was holding out hope that Semi, Zizic, and DJax would go back in.

Me too...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Who will be better, Ball or Simmons? I'd say Ball because he can actually shoot. Last year's class has nothing on this years IMO.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: PAOBoston on July 13, 2017, 07:34:24 PM
[dang]. I was holding out hope that Semi, Zizic, and DJax would go back in.
Mercy rule
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:34:40 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Fair enough, and I agree.  He's a better 3rd string center than Zeller. Not a significant contributor. 
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 13, 2017, 07:36:35 PM
Just joining the game.... which was a slaughter. ;D

Aside from ante "the monster" zizic, who looked good?

And I am impressed that zizic is looking good
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Phantom255x on July 13, 2017, 07:36:36 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION.

Is this summer league team better than the Nets' regular team?  ???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:36:55 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...

LOL the guy is 20. Peak Gortat (15 and 10 with PER of 21) didn't happen until his 6th year..
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:37:24 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Fair enough, and I agree.  He's a better 3rd string center than Zeller. Not a significant contributor.

He will play, especially depending on matchups...
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...

LOL the guy is 20. Peak Gortat (15 and 10 with PER of 21) didn't happen until his 6th year..

Yeah, I'm just stating a very wide range that Zizic will fall into. I really like Zizic's motor and I like his positioning and verticality.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 07:39:36 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Fair enough, and I agree.  He's a better 3rd string center than Zeller. Not a significant contributor.

I would hope he's better than Zeller. Zeller has been terrible his whole career aside from 1 year. He's had a negative VORP for the last two years..
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: smokeablount on July 13, 2017, 07:41:05 PM
Just joining the game.... which was a slaughter. ;D

Aside from ante "the monster" zizic, who looked good?

And I am impressed that zizic is looking good

Jabari Bird hit all kinds of dribble penetration mid range shots and pull ups, looked like a 2-way contract player.

I thought DJax looked good, and could potentially stay on the roster depending on the next few games.

Semi showed versatility, hitting spot up 3's and had a play where he rebounded his own miss 2-3 times and finally finished. Also looked good defensively in motion.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: ETNCeltics on July 13, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...

And 0 turnovers..
Yep, and in only 17 minutes.

Solid game for him by any reasonable standard.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:41:25 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Fair enough, and I agree.  He's a better 3rd string center than Zeller. Not a significant contributor.

I would hope he's better than Zeller. Zeller has been terrible his whole career aside from 1 year. He's had a negative VORP for the last two years..

I think he's already better than Zeller.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: smokeablount on July 13, 2017, 07:43:09 PM
Zizic looks much more comfortable these las few games.
He still has bad hands, turns the ball over, very slow reacting, can't seem to pass...(sigh)

I guess I'm seeing a different player than you are. 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists , 3 blocks...
That's obviously true and I didn't citizens his offense or rebounding. I just think he is too slow and clumsy. He can't pass, in spite of 2 assists.  Not sure he will make a significant contribution this season. I hope I'm wrong.

We won't be running the offense through him, that is for sure.

I just want him to rebound, defend the rim, and deliver the occasional hard hit on LeBron.

Any offense we get from him is just gravy.

Right. Remember how man open looks around the rim Zeller got last year? Those will be Zizic's this year. If he can finish at the rim better than Zeller and rebound better than Zeller, that's an improvement!

This seems accurate and reasonable. He's not prime Gortat, but he's better than Zeller.

Yeah, next year Zizic is better than Zeller not as good as prime Gortat. That seems accurate to me...
Fair enough, and I agree.  He's a better 3rd string center than Zeller. Not a significant contributor.

I would hope he's better than Zeller. Zeller has been terrible his whole career aside from 1 year. He's had a negative VORP for the last two years..

He's the 21st pick. If he can be an above average 12-15 minute player, that's solid. Maybe he'll turn into more.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticSooner on July 13, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
I hope the C's play the Kings next so I can see Buddy, Fox, etc.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: max215 on July 13, 2017, 07:44:27 PM
I watched the entire game. I regret that decision.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: liam on July 13, 2017, 07:46:45 PM
I watched the entire game. I regret that decision.

It was the worst summer league game I've watched so far. No one on the court in the 2nd half for the Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: Surferdad on July 13, 2017, 07:55:06 PM
I watched the entire game. I regret that decision.

It was the worst summer league game I've watched so far. No one on the court in the 2nd half for the Celtics.
Due to thinking the game was on ESPN, perhaps it's fortunate that several of us missed the 1st quarter or even 1st half.  The worst played Celtics game I can remember in a long time.

Jabari Bird was a bright spot.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: smokeablount on July 13, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
I watched the entire game. I regret that decision.

It was the worst summer league game I've watched so far. No one on the court in the 2nd half for the Celtics.
Due to thinking the game was on ESPN, perhaps it's fortunate that several of us missed the 1st quarter or even 1st half.  The worst played Celtics game I can remember in a long time.

Jabari Bird was a bright spot.

The first half was when they played well.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 13, 2017, 08:05:38 PM
The game was on at the beginning on a second channel on Directv and I luckily found it. Zizic was clearly the best big on the floor. Jabari Bird had a really nice game too.

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Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on July 13, 2017, 08:50:05 PM
 ;D ;D

another DOUBLE DOUBLE FOR THE BIG CROAT!
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 10:27:59 PM
Dallas is next. Our final match could ironically be against the nets to win the Tourney. They could be thinking "what if" while our Brooklyn picks beat them down lol
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: trickybilly on July 14, 2017, 02:29:25 AM
Still no Youtube "highlights", what gives?
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2017, 02:35:31 AM
Still no Youtube "highlights", what gives?

It's re-airing on NBA TV right now, so maybe that?
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Post by: Surferdad on July 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM
Dallas is next. Our final match could ironically be against the nets to win the Tourney. They could be thinking "what if" while our Brooklyn picks beat them down lol
I sort of doubt our Brooklyn picks will play, well maybe Tatum.
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: trickybilly on July 15, 2017, 05:00:08 AM
Any highlights of this game? Can't find any on the YouTuber
Title: Re: Celtics (3-0) vs Warriors (1-3) Vegas SL Game #4 7/13/17
Post by: trickybilly on July 15, 2017, 06:45:44 AM
Zizic highlights at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbMaAH-BRzY