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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: LB3533 on November 12, 2008, 05:43:34 PM
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I, for one, am not worried right now. (Because we are winning).
I rather we just win and could care less if we have slow starts or slow finishes...just as long as we win each game that we are competing in and no one gets hurt.
The idea that these slow starts are something to be worried about, doesn't hold any water in my book because I prefer our bench gain the confidence that they are gaining right now by helping the starters get back into games...etc.
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Not me, not worried [yet].
but I had a thought this morning that the Celtics lately have been playing the 1st like Iverson looks at practice. I SAID PRACTICE!
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I'm not worried at all. I hope it doesn't become habit, but I really don't have much worries about this team at all at the moment. As long as they continue playing defense, everything will be OK.
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I am actually encouraged. It shows our bench isn't as weak as we originally thought.
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I think the last game might have been a wake up call. The fact that the team had to play Finals level defense just to get back into a game at home versus a division rival had to bother the starters some. I expect a quick start tonight and smell a blowout happening.
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Still awfully early in the season, I think of it as "working the kinks out".
Now if this is going to be a season long problem, then it'll turn into legitmate concern. Lot of energy goes into getting back into a game after a 10-15 point deficit. Don't like that with a veteran roster.
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
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Opposing teams are probably playing their hearts out just to beat the Celtics. Its better to have a slow start and finish strong!
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Opposing teams are probably playing their hearts out just to beat the Celtics. Its better to have a slow start and finish strong!
THIS!
And over the course of a 48 minute game...I will take our chances with our defense and our Championship pose over any team playing over their heads facing us.
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I'm concerned about it but its a long season. We'll see if the trend continues. The first couple weeks can be deceiving. After all The Mavericks started off their 67 win season poorly and came together to post one of the best regular seasons in NBA history.
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
Although on the other side of the coin, the Spurs have had the same characteristic over the last 6 or 7 years. They just have that "switch", that every great team has.
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
Although on the other side of the coin, the Spurs have had the same characteristic over the last 6 or 7 years. They just have that "switch", that every great team has.
that's a good point, but it is a dicey way to live.....Pop also would throw a complete fit when they would let teams back in games...
and (i know injuries are probably the biggest reason) they haven't won back to backs....
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
To be fair to the Pistons, they went took the Spurs a very close seven game series. They easily could have won that year. San Antonio was a great team as well though. After that however the cracks began to show in attitude and effort in my opinion.
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
To be fair to the Pistons, they went took the Spurs a very close seven game series. They easily could have won that year. San Antonio was a great team as well though. After that however the cracks began to show in attitude and effort in my opinion.
also coinciding with the departure of Brown....but yeah they battled that year and then started to lose their edge...
this years Lakeshow could be that Spurs team. they look really freaking good...
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Awareness of rather than concerned about at this stage ... if it continues then I'll become concerned about it.
i agree with "awareness"......i would also like them to think about it in terms of another great team which very slowly became a team that didn't play focused the whole game:
the Detroit Pistons.
they became a team that was tremendous at closing out games, but i think they started to rely on that ability and it hurt them in establishing their legacy as a truly great team (the great team that i really think they were) and winning another Title. ...
although, i think this Cs team is different and actually better, but it still is something to be aware of...
To be fair to the Pistons, they went took the Spurs a very close seven game series. They easily could have won that year. San Antonio was a great team as well though. After that however the cracks began to show in attitude and effort in my opinion.
also coinciding with the departure of Brown....but yeah they battled that year and then started to lose their edge...
this years Lakeshow could be that Spurs team. they look really freaking good...
Yes they do, they clearly have the potential to be a great team. One that will challenge us severely in the Finals if both teams make it.
I figured the Lakers and Celtics would meet again in the finals. We'll just have to see which team is the best at the end. They look to be the deeper team right now. But I have my doubts whether they'll keep up their enhanced defensive effort. They weren't a bad defensive team last year, but they aren't as good as they've seemed so far this year.
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http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html)
As long as we're at the top
there's no need to worry.
Guys WILL be clicking come
playoff time...
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http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html)
As long as we're at the top
there's no need to worry.
Guys WILL be clicking come
playoff time...
TP to my boy for summing it up, short and sweet. My only worry is everyone staying healthy. Yep, that's it.
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I'm still a little worried. It takes a lot of energy to come back night in and night out. It forces the starters to play a lot of minutes, and tire themselves out. Blowouts mean our guys get to rest early and the young guys get to play. Just because we can dig ourselves a hole and climb back out doesn't mean we have to every game.
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C's will be fine. Everyone will do theyre part. I just want to see better and improving offense from Rondo. Maybe see a 10 ppg this year?
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PP is worried. Two straight games he has mentioned it in post-game. Defensive intensity needs to pick up from the opening bell.
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I am a bit worried. Here is why..
Point differential is I think the best indicator of your teams chances in the playoffs. With these slow starts we are eeking out alot of close wins while teams like the Lakers are dominating. History shows that teams that dominate win finals.
The Celtics were just OWNING the league last year. Their 10+ point differential was one of the better ones in history and why I really truly thought that they would win it all last year despite the Atlanta series and Cleveland series..
Pete
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I'm a little worried. The intensity needs to be there from the off and they need to maintain it. I'd like to see that tonight.
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I'm not worried at all at this point. We are still playing well enough to win games, and honestly, I was worried about burnout last year starting with the first preseason game in which KG pulled down like 20 rebounds. I think it is going to become more necessary as the big 3 get older to coast a little against the bad teams. The Spurs perfected this. Their intensity grew as the season went on and they peaked in the playoffs. As long as the Celts bring the intesity in the big games and when they need to, I'm fine with it at this point in the season.
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Okay so I thought I would just repeat my former post(whick I was as far from being correct about as a person can posssibly be) and say that with the Nuggets traveling and being on the back end of a back to back and with the Celtics seeing what a strain it is on the team to start slow, that the C's will come out strong tonight and a blowout will ensue.
Yes, I know I said the same thing about the Hawks but I'm bound to be right one of these days.
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I'm a liitle nervous. It's not that I don't think they are not as good as they were last year, it just seems that they don't have the intensity.
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I don't like how they seem to play slow the beginning of games and then I guess "turn it on" at the end. It makes for exciting basketball yes, but getting into this habit will not be beneficial come playoff time. Don't be the 2005/2006/2007 pistons.
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I'm worried.
I want the C's to put games away early so they can rest the starters.
I also want the C's to dominate....but mostly at home.
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I'm worried about the poor play that results in the slow starts. The biggest reason I can see is settling for jump shots after only one or two passes.
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I'm worried about the poor play that results in the slow starts. The biggest reason I can see is settling for jump shots after only one or two passes.
I think our defense has been a big problem to start.
Maybe success has led to some guys coasting at the start of games. That could explain the open jumpers Atlanta and Milwaukee had at the start of their games.
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Well, I was wrong again.
Maybe tomorrow night in Milwaukee.
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Well we didn't have a slow start tonight....that might have caused us to let our guard down in the 2nd Quarter or quite frankly, our 2nd Unit just played like crap in the 2nd Quarter.
Our 4th Quarter wasn't up to snuff either....so again, good start, poor finish....loss.
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You know, sooner or later I'm going to be right. Expect a real stronger start versus New York and a blowout thereafter after having some much needed rest.
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You know, sooner or later I'm going to be right. Expect a real stronger start versus New York and a blowout thereafter after having some much needed rest.
You know, you're kinda asking for trouble, nick. Here's hoping you're right for once ;D