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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1005 on: December 30, 2017, 01:42:00 AM »

Offline CelticsElite

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I did the math for you guys

If grizzlies beat the warriors tomorrow, the lakers become 2nd worst


If grizzlies lose to warriors but beat the kings Sunday, as long as Lakers lose to rockets and Mavs beat the thunder, Lakers still become 2nd worst


Order of importance next 2 days:
-Need grizz to beat warriors sat
-need grizz to beat kings Sunday
-Need rocket to beat Lakers sunday
-need mavs to beat Thunder Sunday
Need bulls to beat wiz sunday
Need  magic to beat heat Saturday
Need suns to beat sixers sunday
Need hawks to beat blazers Sunday
Need jazz to beat cavs sat
Need nets to beat Celtics (we can pass on that lol)

Side note: the #3 spot in the lottery is the optimal location for the 2-5 pick to convey, but #2 isn't so bad:

1: 75%
2: 80.1%
3: 80.4%
4: 70.9%
5: 46.4%
6; 15.2%
7: 10.7%
8: 7.2%
9: 4.4%
10: 2.9%
« Last Edit: December 30, 2017, 07:59:52 PM by CelticsElite »

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1006 on: December 30, 2017, 01:48:33 AM »

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I did the math for you guys

If grizzlies beat the warriors tomorrow, the lakers become 2nd worst


If grizzlies lose to warriors but beat the kings Sunday, as long as Lakers lose to rockets and Mavs beat the thunder, Lakers still become 2nd worst


Order of importance next 2 days:
-Need grizz to beat warriors sat
-need grizz to beat kings Sunday
-Need rocket to beat Lakers sunday
-need mavs to beat Thunder Sunday
Need bulls to beat wiz sunday
Need  magic to beat heat sunday
Need suns to beat sixers sunday
Need hawks to beat blazers Sunday
Need jazz to beat cavs sat
Need nets to beat Celtics (we can pass on that lol)

Side note: the #3 spot in the lottery is the optimal location for the 2-5 pick to convey, but #2 isn't so bad:

1: 75%
2: 80.1%
3: 80.4%
4: 70.9%
5: 46.4%
6; 15.2%
7: 10.7%
8: 7.2%
9: 4.4%
10: 2.9%

Dang TP for being thorough.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1007 on: December 30, 2017, 01:50:02 AM »

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Clippers have pretty much sealed the game against the Lakers. Another great day for our pick. A Hawks win could have been an icing on the cake.

Remember we need that pick to be 2-5.

We need someone to take the #1.
Worst record for the Lakers is actually a really good outcome. Our odds of keeping the picks go down slightly compared to 2nd or 3rd-worst records, but the odds of getting a higher pick go up a bit. And we want Ainge getting the highest shot possible, so those odds are a tradeoff I could live with.

One interesting stat is the massive drop-off from 4th-worst odds to 5th-worst. We go from 71% odds of keeping the pick all the way down to 46%. And then at 6th worst we drop all the way down to 15%!!!! So we REALLY want those Lakers to finish bottom-4.

Lakers record / Odds we keep the pick / odds of getting #2 pick / odds of getting #3 pick:
worst / 75% / 22% /18%
2nd worst / 80% / 19% / 17%
3rd worst / 80% / 16% / 16%
4th worst / 71% / 13% / 13%
5th worst / 46% / 10% / 11%
6th worst / 15% / 7% / 8%
7th worst / 11% / 5% / 6%
..and things go rapidly downhill from there.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1008 on: December 30, 2017, 01:53:00 AM »

Offline kraidstar

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I did the math for you guys

If grizzlies beat the warriors tomorrow, the lakers become 2nd worst


If grizzlies lose to warriors but beat the kings Sunday, as long as Lakers lose to rockets and Mavs beat the thunder, Lakers still become 2nd worst


Order of importance next 2 days:
-Need grizz to beat warriors sat
-need grizz to beat kings Sunday
-Need rocket to beat Lakers sunday
-need mavs to beat Thunder Sunday
Need bulls to beat wiz sunday
Need  magic to beat heat sunday
Need suns to beat sixers sunday
Need hawks to beat blazers Sunday
Need jazz to beat cavs sat
Need nets to beat Celtics (we can pass on that lol)

Side note: the #3 spot in the lottery is the optimal location for the 2-5 pick to convey, but #2 isn't so bad:

1: 75%
2: 80.1%
3: 80.4%
4: 70.9%
5: 46.4%
6; 15.2%
7: 10.7%
8: 7.2%
9: 4.4%
10: 2.9%

LOL

You beat me to the punch by 8 minutes, I just whipped out those stats too.

Great minds think alike

TP

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1009 on: December 30, 2017, 01:55:12 AM »

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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1010 on: December 30, 2017, 02:07:20 AM »

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Honestly if we manage to get Bagley, Ayton or Bamba with the Lakers pick, I am happy. I feel like a lot of how a players potential is reached has to do with the coaching group, winning and the mentors they have to learn from, and we have all of these factors (e.g. Kobe Bryant had; Robert Horry, Eddie Jones, Scott Byron, Nick Van Exel and a young Shaq on his team for his rookie season and went to the conference semi finals).

If we land Porter I feel like he should be flipped as he is redundant with Tatum and Hayward and Doncic feels like a high level role player to me, who again isn't really needed.
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1011 on: December 30, 2017, 08:56:25 AM »

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Honestly if we manage to get Bagley, Ayton or Bamba with the Lakers pick, I am happy. I feel like a lot of how a players potential is reached has to do with the coaching group, winning and the mentors they have to learn from, and we have all of these factors (e.g. Kobe Bryant had; Robert Horry, Eddie Jones, Scott Byron, Nick Van Exel and a young Shaq on his team for his rookie season and went to the conference semi finals).

If we land Porter I feel like he should be flipped as he is redundant with Tatum and Hayward and Doncic feels like a high level role player to me, who again isn't really needed.

You might be right but I would not be surprised if Doncic is the best player in this draft, and I want Ainge to draft what he feels is the best talent not the most needed.  You could make it work having Doncic start his career as a super 6th man ala McHale and slide Tatum or Hayward as the small ball 4.  Then in a few years when Hayward enters his 30s you could make him the 6th man.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1012 on: December 30, 2017, 11:15:55 AM »

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I would kill a man if we could land the second or third pick in the next draft. May kill 2 for the second pick.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1013 on: December 30, 2017, 11:25:07 AM »

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I just looked at the standings and it had me doing a dance lol.

Lose Lakers, Lose!

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1014 on: December 30, 2017, 12:00:16 PM »

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I would kill a man if we could land the second or third pick in the next draft. May kill 2 for the second pick.
do you have anyone picked out?  ;D
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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1015 on: December 30, 2017, 12:17:54 PM »

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I think a healthy porter would be an awesome addition...

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-22, 5th Slot on 12/27)
« Reply #1016 on: December 30, 2017, 01:07:15 PM »

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Honestly if we manage to get Bagley, Ayton or Bamba with the Lakers pick, I am happy. I feel like a lot of how a players potential is reached has to do with the coaching group, winning and the mentors they have to learn from, and we have all of these factors (e.g. Kobe Bryant had; Robert Horry, Eddie Jones, Scott Byron, Nick Van Exel and a young Shaq on his team for his rookie season and went to the conference semi finals).

If we land Porter I feel like he should be flipped as he is redundant with Tatum and Hayward and Doncic feels like a high level role player to me, who again isn't really needed.

You might be right but I would not be surprised if Doncic is the best player in this draft, and I want Ainge to draft what he feels is the best talent not the most needed.  You could make it work having Doncic start his career as a super 6th man ala McHale and slide Tatum or Hayward as the small ball 4.  Then in a few years when Hayward enters his 30s you could make him the 6th man.
My hope is for Doncic too. Not only do I believe he will be the best player in this draft, but I think he is the most NBA ready and will be able to contribute right away. It probably would mean saying goodbye to Smart.

I truly believe Doncic on the Celtics could win ROY and SMOY award in the same year.

Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1017 on: December 30, 2017, 07:59:37 PM »

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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1018 on: December 30, 2017, 09:11:37 PM »

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Re: 2017-18 Lakers Season Watch Thread (11-23, 3rd Slot on 12/29)
« Reply #1019 on: December 30, 2017, 09:32:25 PM »

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