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Beyond the Association => College Basketball => Topic started by: Moranis on March 11, 2018, 08:21:56 PM
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Place your thoughts, predictions, snubs, etc.
I'm going with my alma mater U if Cincinnati so now they will probably lose in the first round.
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I can't put this aside long enough to comment:
duke-recruiting[/b]-rj-barrett-cameron-reddish-best-freshman-class-ever]https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/1/21/16915966/zion-williamson-duke-recruiting-rj-barrett-cameron-reddish-best-freshman-class-ever (https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/1/21/16915966/zion-williamson-[b)
Go 'heels... :/
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[irrelevant]
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As a URI fan I’m glad we’re playing Oklahoma. It’s pathetic that they’re in.
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The first big upset of the day as 13 seed Marshall downs 4 seed Wichita State.
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Go Cavs .
UVA :D
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Was happy to see Loyola Chicago pull the upset yesterday. First tourney since '85, only team from the state of IL in the tourney this year, winning on an insane buzzer beater. Cool stuff.
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I was as surprised by that Arizona game as any game I have can remember. I saw several arizona games this year in person and they really really looked good.
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Providence was my big upset team. Had them in the elite 8.
Bracket busted.
Too bad because I had the the LIU upset and the Buffalo upset. That's what happens when you pick way to many upsets I suppose.
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I am just glad Cincinnati won today. Ohio State win yesterday. So a good start for the teams I follow.
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So yeh
I pay zero attention to NCAA hoops and I probably deserve to do awful in my bracket, but really, Arizona (my champ) can't make it past the first round without getting blown out? Sheesh.
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I’ve got Michigan winning it all in my bracket. They’ve looked really good lately. Great coach, very deep.
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Virginia better stop messing around or they're gonna be the first #1 seed to lose.
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Virginia better stop messing around or they're gonna be the first #1 seed to lose.
The first #1 OVERALL seed.
We might be on the verge of history here. I'm tuning the heck in.
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Virginia better stop messing around or they're gonna be the first #1 seed to lose.
The first #1 OVERALL seed.
We might be on the verge of history here. I'm tuning the heck in.
This is getting really interesting. Virginia down by 16 with 11 min left....
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#16 beating a #1?
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2ba5bb955513c24cd503acbfa845901/tenor.gif?itemid=6091046)
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UMBC up by 12 with 4 min left....oh man oh man....
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UMBC defeating Virginia (if it holds) will be in the top 5 all time upsets in sports history. Almost like Douglas beating Tyson. Doubt 1% of legit brackets had UMBC winning this game.
Someone in Vegas is getting stupid money tonight if they win.
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That's ball game. For a team that prides itself on defense, UVA really choked this one.
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Wow. This is going to happen.
It’s because they’re wearing their Hickory-esque jerseys.
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How does this happen?
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UBMC just played loose this whole 2nd half. Usually big underdogs eventually realize how close they are to the big upset and then they stop being so aggressive. Not this team. kept playing their game....amazing.
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I picked UVA to win the tournament... FML
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UBMC just played loose this whole 2nd half. Usually big underdogs eventually realize how close they are to the big upset and then they stop being so aggressive. Not this team. kept playing their game....amazing.
Limited their mistakes, too. When UVA ratcheted up the pressure, UMBC handled it well. Credit to Maura for taking care of the ball and calmly nailing those last 2 FTs.
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Enjoy this moment guys. We may never see another one like this for a long time...
Great job by these UMBC Retrievers.
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This is the first year in forever I didn't do any pools for $$. THANK GOD LOL!!!
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Enjoy this moment guys. We may never see another one like this for a long time...
Great job by these UMBC Retrievers.
exceptional effort and great play by UMBC! no one is ever going to take that away from them.
unbelievable...
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If you had a bracket, you don't anymore.
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The Virginia loss wasn't a killer for me because I had them losing in the Sweet 16
...to Arizona ;)
Tournament time baby!!
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So #64 beats #1 biggest upset in sports' history?
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Amazing upset, but that loss only really kills your bracket if you had them in the final four
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
Deandre Hunter isn’t worth the difference between the #1 overall seed and a #16, though.
Congrats on your bracket.
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
I think people know, it's just that it's still a #16 seed they are going in the first round. UMBC needed a buzzer beater to get into the tournament, they're not a strong group. Meanwhile, Virginia would have still been strong enough to beat them even without their top 6th man.
They just crumbled.
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
UVAs whole starting lineup could be out and they should steal beat UMBC
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
I think people know, it's just that it's still a #16 seed they are going in the first round. UMBC needed a buzzer beater to get into the tournament, they're not a strong group. Meanwhile, Virginia would have still been strong enough to beat them even without their top 6th man.
They just crumbled.
I don’t think UVA knew what to do when an opponent individually started to beat their defense. That Lyles kid went into beast mode in the second half, and UVA seemed to get disheartened.
It was crazy watching the teams in the handshake line after the game. Looking at the height differences, it seemed like Varsity vs. the 6th grade team.
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So #64 beats #1 biggest upset in sports' history?
I’m taking Miracle On Ice. That was like a good college team taking down the Stanley Cup champions.
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So #64 beats #1 biggest upset in sports' history?
I’m taking Miracle On Ice. That was like a good college team taking down the Stanley Cup champions.
Yeah, that'll probably always be #1.
Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson has to be in the discussion for 2nd. Tyson was absolutely invincible up 'til that point. Douglas was like a 40-1 long shot.
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The upset just happened, so it’s difficult to put it in perspective. Let’s not forget, this UMBC team was not the 64 ranked team in the country, but just in the tournament. I’m curious as to their national ranking going into the tournament. Also, 16 seeds were 0-135 before the game. It’s more likely than not, that we could see another run of 0-135 before we see another 16 seed win, which will make this upset even more impressive. The one thing Virginia had going for them, just like every other #1 seed before them, was they did not want to become the first and only #1 seed to lose in the first round.
What I found amazing was not what UMBC was doing, but rather what Virginia was not doing. Why was Virginia fixated on shooting from the outside, when they were obviously so much bigger? Do they not have anyone who can post up or drive to the basket? The one thing that was blowing my mind was why none of the Virginia players were attacking (via drives or post ups) the 5’8” 140 pound Maura.
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Michael Porter early exit. Says he is going to consider returning. Hope he does. Good for us.
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So #64 beats #1 biggest upset in sports' history?
I’m taking Miracle On Ice. That was like a good college team taking down the Stanley Cup champions.
Yeah, that'll probably always be #1.
Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson has to be in the discussion for 2nd. Tyson was absolutely invincible up 'til that point. Douglas was like a 40-1 long shot.
I bet there have been some huge upsets / longshots in horse racing.
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So #64 beats #1 biggest upset in sports' history?
I’m taking Miracle On Ice. That was like a good college team taking down the Stanley Cup champions.
Yeah, that'll probably always be #1.
Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson has to be in the discussion for 2nd. Tyson was absolutely invincible up 'til that point. Douglas was like a 40-1 long shot.
I bet there have been some huge upsets / longshots in horse racing.
For sure. Off the top of my head, Mine that Bird won the Kentucky Derby with some ridiculous odds.
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I'm not old enough to remember the Miracle on Ice as I was only 4 but I do remember vividly Buster vs Tyson. Tyson was a monster almost unhuman and no one even heard of Buster Douglas to that point. He was just another tomato can Tyson could wow the crowd with.
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One of the greztest upsets ever. As I was watching the game at the bar,5 minutes into the game, I told the group I was with that UMBC could really play defense and with UVAs bad offense, there could definitely be an upset. Why UVA didn't start clearing a side and have people post up Maura all game is beyond me. Kid is 5'6", 130 lbs. Great to watch the game though. Bar was electric.
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Saw a funny twitter post directed at Kansas St. Something along the lines of just remember KSU, no #16 team has ever lost in the round of 32. Hilarious.
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Deandre Hunter isn’t worth the difference between the #1 overall seed and a #16, though.
Congrats on your bracket.
Still it was a morale blow I wager.
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Go Ramblers!!
No idea how that last shot actually went down. Good for Loyola.
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So DeAndre Ayton, according to Jay Bilas, is so good its already time to call him a hall of fame talent, but he couldn't get his #4 seed, most of the year top 10 ranked, team past a #13 seed team from Buffalo.
Hmmm.
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Well with Loyola-Chicago's win, my bracket remains perfect. TP, tar.
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So DeAndre Ayton, according to Jay Bilas, is so good its already time to call him a hall of fame talent, but he couldn't get his #4 seed, most of the year top 10 ranked, team past a #13 seed team from Buffalo.
Hmmm.
His defense is a real problem.
Ive read a couple several articles that claim he's convinced himself he's a power forward. Someone has to get in that kids ear and find a way to get him to buy in to being a dominant physical presence at the 5.
https://www.theringer.com/march-madness/2018/3/16/17129698/deandre-ayton-buffalo-defense-ncaa-tournament
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
You had them lose in the first round to 16th seed?
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I had VA picked to lose as they lost a player with a broken hand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginias-deandre-hunter-to-miss-ncaa-tournament-because-of-broken-hand/2018/03/13/84cc3bca-2706-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Didn't folks know this?
You had them lose in the first round to 16th seed?
Yeah. Anyone who claims they thought UVA missing one player would make them worse than UMBC is lying to themselves.
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So does UMBC have a chance against Kansas State today? I am a big12 fan, but I don't mind Kstate getting upset today if it gets the UMBC guys into the sweet 16.
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So does UMBC have a chance against Kansas State today? I am a big12 fan, but I don't mind Kstate getting upset today if it gets the UMBC guys into the sweet 16.
I saw a funny tweet yesterday that I think applies. I can't remember where, but it went something like:
"Watchout Kstate, a 16 seed has never lost in the round of 32."
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UNC getting blown out right now by Texas A&M.
Hopefully this holds. The only thing better than UNC loss is a Duke win!
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UNC getting blown out right now by Texas A&M.
Hopefully this holds. The only thing better than UNC loss is a Duke win!
let the upsets continue!
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UNC getting blown out right now by Texas A&M.
Hopefully this holds. The only thing better than UNC loss is a Duke win!
Uh oh, don't let @tarheels see this post! :laugh:
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UNC getting blown out right now by Texas A&M.
Hopefully this holds. The only thing better than UNC loss is a Duke win!
Uh oh, don't let @tarheels see this post! :laugh:
Well his team is down 22 with 11 minutes to go. not looking good for them.
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Woot...woot!!!
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UMBC can play some defense. They were outstanding defensively against UVA and are great tonight too.
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That Nevada comeback was something.
Not sure why the Cincinatti coach left his best shooter in on 4 fouls
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Something has been gnawing at me since watching an early Purdue game in the tourney. Why isn't Isaac Haas at least on the radar of some draft sites? 7'2 senior who weighs 290 and plays above the rim with ease. Granted I haven't found much tape on him, but is his mobility so bad that with all of his physical tools and aggression he couldn't play off the bench for a team?
If someone knows more please enlighten me.
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UNC getting blown out right now by Texas A&M.
Hopefully this holds. The only thing better than UNC loss is a Duke win!
I celebrate Duke's elimination every year too. Bummer that UNC was bounced early, it's been a wonky first weekend. But I am still grateful for last year. And admittedly jealous of your freshman class next year. Good luck the rest of the way.
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We should draft JP Macura
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Xavier just choked away their #1 seed.
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Loyola Chicago!
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Loyola Chicago!
Love when double digit seeds make the Final Four. Love rooting for underdogs that weekend.
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Loyola Chicago!
Other than maybe George Mason, I'm not sure there has ever been a more unlikely Final Four team.
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Loyola playing great team defense and outstanding at spreading the floor on offense. Every guy on their team is moving without the ball. All 4 guys other than their center is a threat to hit a 3 or to drive it to the bucket. Looks like we should stop calling them an underdog and just call them a great team.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
You just can't admit how good Duke is...lol.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
You just can't admit how good Duke is...lol.
Well, I'd rather not... lol. They are young, but I'm sure they're right in the mix. I've seen all 5 of their starters projected to be 1st round picks this year.. And their incoming class is so good it's probably worth finding a new hobby.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
You just can't admit how good Duke is...lol.
Well, I'd rather not... lol. They are young, but I'm sure they're right in the mix. I've seen all 5 of their starters projected to be 1st round picks this year.. And their incoming class is so good it's probably worth finding a new hobby.
It's not every day I give out compliments to anything, or anyone, associated with UNC...I friggen' hate the Tarheels.
But...
Despite being at an obvious recruiting disadvantage (because despite Roy Williams possibly being one of the top 5 coaches of all-time, when the game's biggest name and most respected figure is right in your backyard - that's definitely a disadvantage), UNC somehow still seems to be a top team most years and has won more than their fair share of titles recently.
It's a huge feather in Roy Williams' cap to be able to continue to accomplish what he has.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
You just can't admit how good Duke is...lol.
Well, I'd rather not... lol. They are young, but I'm sure they're right in the mix. I've seen all 5 of their starters projected to be 1st round picks this year.. And their incoming class is so good it's probably worth finding a new hobby.
It's not every day I give out compliments to anything, or anyone, associated with UNC...I friggen' hate the Tarheels.
But...
Despite being at an obvious recruiting disadvantage (because despite Roy Williams possibly being one of the top 5 coaches of all-time, when the game's biggest name and most respected figure is right in your backyard - that's definitely a disadvantage), UNC somehow still seems to be a top team most years and has won more than their fair share of titles recently.
It's a huge feather in Roy Williams' cap to be able to continue to accomplish what he has.
I actually have friends in the college athletic business and from what they tell me, Coack K and Williams are upstanding guys and run pretty clean programs, or at least try to. You can be the cleanest coach but if boosters at the school are dirty, sometimes there is little you can do. I get this because my best friend was at the University of Maryland for years as a SID and got to know these guys.
Sadly, from info I get, Calipari, Sean Miller, are definitely dirty and some other guys you might have thought were clean are filthy. Think Big 12 and Big 10.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
You just can't admit how good Duke is...lol.
Well, I'd rather not... lol. They are young, but I'm sure they're right in the mix. I've seen all 5 of their starters projected to be 1st round picks this year.. And their incoming class is so good it's probably worth finding a new hobby.
It's not every day I give out compliments to anything, or anyone, associated with UNC...I friggen' hate the Tarheels.
But...
Despite being at an obvious recruiting disadvantage (because despite Roy Williams possibly being one of the top 5 coaches of all-time, when the game's biggest name and most respected figure is right in your backyard - that's definitely a disadvantage), UNC somehow still seems to be a top team most years and has won more than their fair share of titles recently.
It's a huge feather in Roy Williams' cap to be able to continue to accomplish what he has.
I actually have friends in the college athletic business and from what they tell me, Coack K and Williams are upstanding guys and run pretty clean programs, or at least try to. You can be the cleanest coach but if boosters at the school are dirty, sometimes there is little you can do. I get this because my best friend was at the University of Maryland for years as a SID and got to know these guys.
Sadly, from info I get, Calipari, Sean Miller, are definitely dirty and some other guys you might have thought were clean are filthy. Think Big 12 and Big 10.
Do tell.
I tried to add the gif of Leo Dicaprio saying, "You had my curiousity, but now you have my attention" but I don't know how lol.
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I think we can safely say that Bob Newhart's college winning with Sister Jean in tow and all their Gryffindor gear is the best thing to come out of the tournament in years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INIBYFBOAPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INIBYFBOAPA)
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Overtime Duke vs Kansas for the right to go to the final four on a last second barely miss by Grayson. Other than Loyola in the Final Four does it get better than that?
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Welp, congrats to Kansas...Grayson had his chance to be a legend and came up short.
On to next season.....
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Really want to see a David (Loyola Chicago) v. Goliath ('Nova or Kansas) national championship game.
This Ramblers story is pretty amazing. Has a chance to go all Hickory here.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
Yeah, I mean, as a Duke fan I'm pretty steamed about the way the game was called at the end, but you can't control that stuff. Gotta put yourself in position to not let it matter.
The bottom line is Duke let a clearly inferior team outplay them for most of the 2nd half and it ended up biting them in the ass.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
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Grayson had his chance to be a legend and came up short.
I for one was glad to see him miss the shot, he is not a nice guy and very dirty player. I do not believe in Karma but it could not happen to a nicer guy.
Duke deserved to lose, they had more talent but effort was not there in large spurts.
That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter
It was a bad call. But it was more than one call that cost them the game.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
The announcer of the game disagreed and said he thought that the KS player had NOT already left his feet.
Smitty77
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Back to Loyola Chicago for a second...Wolverines look tough, so, this might be the Rambler's last second.
Good post above here, on their play.
They literally have four guys who can set the offense, hit an open guy on the perimeter or drive to the hoop. They play great defense, but, don't overplay.
They are small, but, play big and don't get tight in pressure situations.
On the face of it they are huge underdogs. Look at their season and watch them play. They aren't underdogs, they are a really good team that plays together as a team. Nobody waiting around for the "superstar" to bail them out...they all want the shot.
They beat #7 Florida in Florida in December, no problem.
Three seniors
Two juniors
One freshman
Since January 7th, they are..........21-1
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
The announcer of the game disagreed and said he thought that the KS player had NOT already left his feet.
Smitty77
Announcers are wrong all the time. Watch the replay. He was clearly dragging his foot while the KU player was in the air. At the very least that’s a grey area, right?
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
I'm a Duke fan, but this is so far from reality, maybe it's actually hilarious satire.
Greyson Allen is highly overrated. Struggles to get his shot off against good athletes and isn't really a knock down shooter even when open.
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I'm stating on the record that I feel absolutely no joy as a result of tonight's game(s).
Sike!
The future couldn't be brighter for Duke, though. 'Heels will be playing catch-up for the next few years, I reckon.
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I'm stating on the record that I feel absolutely no joy as a result of tonight's game(s).
Sike!
The future couldn't be brighter for Duke, though. 'Heels will be playing catch-up for the next few years, I reckon.
How come Droopy dog Williams is losing the recruiting battle so badly to Coach K? Not that UNC has too much to complain about (considering last year's win), but it seems like UNC hasn't been getting the top talent for a while now. You might disagree with me here, but I feel like Hansborough was the last exciting UNC bball player.
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I'm stating on the record that I feel absolutely no joy as a result of tonight's game(s).
Sike!
The future couldn't be brighter for Duke, though. 'Heels will be playing catch-up for the next few years, I reckon.
How come Droopy dog Williams is losing the recruiting battle so badly to Coach K? Not that UNC has too much to complain about (considering last year's win), but it seems like UNC hasn't been getting the top talent for a while now. You might disagree with me here, but I feel like Hansborough was the last exciting UNC bball player.
I agree. I think that defines the direction the program is headed as much as anything else. Probably two reasons: a) Coach K is the most highly-regarded and decorated coach in college, and b) a lot of one-and-done players are choosing slightly less prestigious programs to showcase their talent and/or remain closer to home. I wouldn't be surprised if the recruitment strategies (e.g., monetary benefits for family) are a factor in some cases, too.
This is obviously a disadvantage for them. I expect them to continue to get mostly 4-star recruits with an occasional 5-star guy that may be local and/or find my fan mail persuasive. But, for fans with more patience, every few years they'll assemble a team with vets that have stayed together to compete for a championship and increase their relative draft stock, like last year. I think this is a larger trend that has benefited a lot of the smaller programs in recent years and explains some of these major upsets.
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I'm stating on the record that I feel absolutely no joy as a result of tonight's game(s).
Sike!
The future couldn't be brighter for Duke, though. 'Heels will be playing catch-up for the next few years, I reckon.
How come Droopy dog Williams is losing the recruiting battle so badly to Coach K? Not that UNC has too much to complain about (considering last year's win), but it seems like UNC hasn't been getting the top talent for a while now. You might disagree with me here, but I feel like Hansborough was the last exciting UNC bball player.
I agree. I think that defines the direction the program is headed as much as anything else. Probably two reasons: a) Coach K is the most highly-regarded and decorated coach in college, and b) a lot of one-and-done players are choosing slightly less prestigious programs to showcase their talent and/or remain closer to home. I wouldn't be surprised if the recruitment strategies (e.g., monetary benefits for family) are a factor in some cases, too.
This is obviously a disadvantage for them. I expect them to continue to get mostly 4-star recruits with an occasional 5-star guy that may be local and/or find my fan mail persuasive. But, for fans with more patience, every few years they'll assemble a team with vets that have stayed together to compete for a championship and increase their relative draft stock, like last year. I think this is a larger trend that has benefited a lot of the smaller programs in recent years and explains some of these major upsets.
lol. that's pretty awesome if you have ever written to a prospect.
A lot of great Jordan photos you could stick in the envelope..
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I'm stating on the record that I feel absolutely no joy as a result of tonight's game(s).
Sike!
The future couldn't be brighter for Duke, though. 'Heels will be playing catch-up for the next few years, I reckon.
How come Droopy dog Williams is losing the recruiting battle so badly to Coach K? Not that UNC has too much to complain about (considering last year's win), but it seems like UNC hasn't been getting the top talent for a while now. You might disagree with me here, but I feel like Hansborough was the last exciting UNC bball player.
I guess you missed the last 2 national championships...
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
The announcer of the game disagreed and said he thought that the KS player had NOT already left his feet.
Smitty77
Announcers are wrong all the time. Watch the replay. He was clearly dragging his foot while the KU player was in the air. At the very least that’s a grey area, right?
It is not just one announcer saying the call was bogus.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/03/26/did-duke-get-jobbed-by-refs-in-overtime-of-kansas-thriller/23395436/
Smitty77
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
I thought it was a block in real time but on the replay it was the right call. Carter was set for a split-second but slid his right foot over at the last instant. If he hadn't made that itty bitty adjustment he should've been fine, but he was moving, it's a block. Granted a block that doesn't always get called that way, but it was called correctly this time. Kudos to the ref for getting a very tough call right.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
I thought it was a block in real time but on the replay it was the right call. Carter was set for a split-second but slid his right foot over at the last instant. If he hadn't made that itty bitty adjustment he should've been fine, but he was moving, it's a block. Granted a block that doesn't always get called that way, but it was called correctly this time. Kudos to the ref for getting a very tough call right.
Yeah, I'm not sure that's an accurate assessment of how the call is supposed to be judged.
Carter's hips and shoulders were square and his body position didn't change once the player left the floor. Sure, his right foot slid a little bit, but it had no impact on Carter's body positioning. Had his foot stayed where it was before the player left the floor his hips and shoulders would have been in the exact same spot anyway. The bottom line is he beat the offensive player to the spot before he gathered to go up for the shot.
But I can accept that it was a borderline call, and in truth Duke never should have let the game get to that point anyway, so it is what it is. And anyone who watches college basketball often enough knows their refs are even worse than NBA refs when it comes to the block/charge call. Pinning your hopes on them getting a call like that right is a fools errand.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
The announcer of the game disagreed and said he thought that the KS player had NOT already left his feet.
Smitty77
Announcers are wrong all the time. Watch the replay. He was clearly dragging his foot while the KU player was in the air. At the very least that’s a grey area, right?
It is not just one announcer saying the call was bogus.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/03/26/did-duke-get-jobbed-by-refs-in-overtime-of-kansas-thriller/23395436/
Smitty77
Two members of the media can be just as wrong as one. Especially when the article says this:
Replays showed that Carter had established two feet outside the restricted area before Newman began his ascent toward the basket.
That’s just not accurate, as anybody with working vision can see Carter sliding his foot.
His feet weren’t set. That makes it, at worst, a borderline call.
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That was literally the WORST block/charge call on a CLEAR charge to foul out Wendell Carter. Ref right there and hesitated and literally decided to GIVE the game to Kansas. That referee should NEVER EVER be allowed to call ANY basketball game again. Not a YMCA league game, not a church league game, not a pick up game!!!
That ref DECIDED that game on the WORST call in OT in NCAA history!! And I am NOT a Duke fan, but an NC State fan!!
And Allen did come up HUGE at the end of regulation my taking over the game and getting to the line twice and hitting all four FT's and then making the perfect move and shot to have literally the WORST luck ever as the shot appeared to go down, not once, but twice, and rim out.
I would be ECSTATIC if Grayson fell to us with our pick!!! He is the type of player you want on YOUR team!!! He is a work in progress regarding his "issues," but he has really matured this year and he is certainly an Alpha!!!
Smitty77
well that you have that out of your system, i did not see the game but would appreciate it if someone were to post a video of what smitty77 is carrying on about. thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFeOxegQxcs
I was rooting for Duke. At the time I thought it was a horrible call.
In hindsight, though, the Kansas player had already left his feet and was in the act of shooting a layup before Carter was completely set. Carter was there, but he hadn't clearly established position, as his right foot was still dragging.
I don't know the specifics of the rule, but it's often stated that you need both feet set. If that's the rule, the officials probably got that call right.
I thought it was a block in real time but on the replay it was the right call. Carter was set for a split-second but slid his right foot over at the last instant. If he hadn't made that itty bitty adjustment he should've been fine, but he was moving, it's a block. Granted a block that doesn't always get called that way, but it was called correctly this time. Kudos to the ref for getting a very tough call right.
Yeah, I'm not sure that's an accurate assessment of how the call is supposed to be judged.
Carter's hips and shoulders were square and his body position didn't change once the player left the floor. Sure, his right foot slid a little bit, but it had no impact on Carter's body positioning. Had his foot stayed where it was before the player left the floor his hips and shoulders would have been in the exact same spot anyway. The bottom line is he beat the offensive player to the spot before he gathered to go up for the shot.
But I can accept that it was a borderline call, and in truth Duke never should have let the game get to that point anyway, so it is what it is. And anyone who watches college basketball often enough knows their refs are even worse than NBA refs when it comes to the block/charge call. Pinning your hopes on them getting a call like that right is a fools errand.
I have probably seen that same play about 10000 times between college and pro. Probably saw it called 5000 for blocking and 5000 for charging. There is really no right or wrong call with it given its a judgment call based on a split second view of if that foot was completely in place or not and if the player had secured position whether that last foot was finished moving its last inch or so to acquire that position.
Don't have any problem with the call.
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If you could watch only one semifinal which would it be ?
i am leaning towards loyola-michigan (the time suits better too)
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Gee. Do ya think maybe the tourney slept on Penn State?
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UConn women lose. Shocking.
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If you could watch only one semifinal which would it be ?
i am leaning towards loyola-michigan (the time suits better too)
Loyola/Michigan. I'm amped for that game. Totally on the Ramblers bandwagon.
UConn women lose. Shocking.
Probably a good thing for women's college basketball, though.
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UConn women lose. Shocking.
Not really. UConn lost in the semis last year too. Notre Dame generally plays them tough. They played earlier in the season and UConn only won by 9 and it was a closer game than that as I recall.
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UConn women lose. Shocking.
To me, it's crazy when you think about the UConn women's dominance.
A 2 point OT loss yesterday, a 2 point OT loss in 2017, and a 2 point OT loss in 2015. If one shot falls different in those games, they're looking at a 200 game win streak and 6 straight championships.
I know a lot of people don't respect the women's game, and while it is much more top heavy, UConn still plays all the other teams ranked in the Top-5 every year (Stanford, Maryland, Baylor, South Carolina, Notre Dame, every one but Tennessee). About a third of their games are against ranked opponents, and more than half of those are against teams ranked in the top 10. They play all the best competition out there.
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UConn women lose. Shocking.
Not really. UConn lost in the semis last year too. Notre Dame generally plays them tough. They played earlier in the season and UConn only won by 9 and it was a closer game than that as I recall.
they were a mich weaker team last year than this year
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How you guys liking Grant Hill as an announcer on TV? I think he's ok, but not great. Maybe above average. Maybe he'll get better
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I’ve got Michigan winning it all in my bracket. They’ve looked really good lately. Great coach, very deep.
Bump.
That was a very exciting game. I am pumped for Kansas Villanova coming up!
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
TP, Tarstradamus
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My wife and I watched the men and women’s Final Four games this weekend. The women’s games were definitely more competitive. As we were watching the women’s finals yesterday, my wife made an observation that surprisingly didn’t even occur to me. The women rarely took charges, and relied more on playing actual defense by contesting and blocking shots. It was so refreshing to see. I was wondering why I couldn’t turn away, as I was apparently watching the beautiful game of basketball the way it was meant to be played…players against players, instead of players against actors. My one basketball wish would be to get rid of charging calls altogether. There is nothing more embarrassing in sports, then to see some of the greatest athletes in the world relegated to being actors. Take some pride, and try to move your feet to contest and block a shot. Yes, they may get dunked on, but at least they won’t look like the cowards that they look like now.
The women's semifinals had Kobe in attendance. I didn't notice if he was there yesterday. Both semifinal games went to overtime, including one three to tie the game to get it to OT. The same girl for Notre Dame that hit the game winner to beat UCONN in OT, also hit the game winner to win the national title. I hope the men's championship game tonight can come close to being as competitive and compelling.
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Tarheels is having painful flashbacks to 2016 right now.
Also, is DiVincenzo the GOAT? I feel like I'm watching a hybrid of Jason Williams and Tom Brady/Jesus.
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Nova was never even tested in this tournament. Terrific run.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
TP, Tarstradamus
Request for self Tommy Pointification - approved ;D.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
TP, Tarstradamus
Request for self Tommy Pointification - approved ;D.
You, my friend, are a saint. When I didn't understand the utility of emojis, you modeled the way to breathe life into my posts. When I never thought I'd receive a TP, I was gifted by a scholar and a gentleman. When I internet-yelled at people over a person I judge with hardly any knowledge of who they actually are, you forgive me. In short, bless you.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
TP, Tarstradamus
Well except for the fact that they lost the title by 17 points.
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These Wolverines are a lot of fun to watch : Tough, high-skilled, and emotional leader in Wagner; a beast in Matthews; a steady presence in Simpson; and lights out shooters everywhere.
I've watched very little of the tourney this year, but it's hard to imagine a better team that's left. They look championship caliber.
TP, Tarstradamus
Request for self Tommy Pointification - approved ;D.
You, my friend, are a saint. When I didn't understand the utility of emojis, you modeled the way to breathe life into my posts. When I never thought I'd receive a TP, I was gifted by a scholar and a gentleman. When I internet-yelled at people over a person I judge with hardly any knowledge of who they actually are, you forgive me. In short, bless you.
L M F A O - TP ;D.
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Wofford Terriers look legit!
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Magee hasn't hit a shot yet and The Terriers are up...
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If Magee doesn't start hitting some shots....
Made one.
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Thins Carsten Edwards can’t play a lick of D,
But boy can he score
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Purdue and Virginia absolute must watch right now
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10 3s for Edwards...
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Wow
Virginia with a buzzer beater to send the game into OT
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10 3s for Edwards...
I haven't seen this kid drafted in the 1st round in any mocks I've looked at yet. He's a 1st round talent. When the tournament is over and there is some serious work to be done on this draft. There will be and incredible amount of movement up and down the draft.