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Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2014, 10:53:30 PM »

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I think we package him with Green to get a young player from a contending team.

ESPN's trade checker tells me that Wright can't be combined with another player in a deal.

RealGM doesn't say anything about such a restriction.

Can anyone confirm either way?

I think the reason we needed the trade to happen when it did was because it still gave us a chance to package the [former] Mavs players with other players within a day or two of the trade deadline. However, I believe any of them can be traded individually right now.
Correct. I did some checking and wright or wrong, he can only be traded by himself. At the trade deadline he can be combined with other players.  ;D
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Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2014, 11:10:08 PM »

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I think we package him with Green to get a young player from a contending team.

ESPN's trade checker tells me that Wright can't be combined with another player in a deal.

RealGM doesn't say anything about such a restriction.

Can anyone confirm either way?

I think the reason we needed the trade to happen when it did was because it still gave us a chance to package the [former] Mavs players with other players within a day or two of the trade deadline. However, I believe any of them can be traded individually right now.

OK, I did some hunting and found this on the salary cap FAQ site. It matches what you are saying.

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For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the trade aggregates the player's salary with the salaries of other players. However, the team is free to trade the player immediately, either by himself or without aggregating his salary with other salaries. This restriction applies only to players who were acquired using an exception (and not cap room). (Also see question number 88.)

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q100

I guess the key is that we got an exception in the deal (my bold).

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Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2014, 11:14:19 PM »

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Rajon Rondo, as long as they throw in a guy with dreadlocks, a guy who took steroids, and a trade exception. Oh, and a mediocre pick!

Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2014, 11:29:12 PM »

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Cant get much for him until Stevens actually plays the guy..

I already dont like Wright. He's a skinny, 6'9" PF/C. I've never really understood Danny's love for undersized PF/Cs. My worst nightmare is that Wright turns into the next Mark Blount and Danny throws him a ridiculous contract to keep him.

Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2014, 11:45:12 PM »

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At the deadline we can package Wright with other players so here's a proposal:

Boston sends: Wright, Green, Turner, LAC 1st

Charlotte sends: Williams, Henderson, Vonleh, Cha 2015 1st (top 5 protected).



Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2014, 11:45:15 PM »

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Cant get much for him until Stevens actually plays the guy..

I already dont like Wright. He's a skinny, 6'9" PF/C. I've never really understood Danny's love for undersized PF/Cs. My worst nightmare is that Wright turns into the next Mark Blount and Danny throws him a ridiculous contract to keep him.

Undersized but talented players tend to be more undervalued than athletic players with prototypical size who don't actually produce on the floor.  It's massively horrid to make a knee-jerk reaction to a player based solely on size.  It may make success more of an uphill climb, but it doesn't make him inherently unsuited for a spot in the rotation or even a starting job.
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Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2014, 12:03:20 AM »

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At the deadline we can package Wright with other players so here's a proposal:

Boston sends: Wright, Green, Turner, LAC 1st

Charlotte sends: Williams, Henderson, Vonleh, Cha 2015 1st (top 5 protected).

You wouldn't need to wait till the deadline.  You could do Wright for Henderson in one trade and then do a second trade for the rest. 

Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2014, 02:19:57 AM »

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Maybe a couple of 2nd round picks but not much else.
We are certainly not getting a late first rounder for him lol.
If you think it's gonna be hard getting a late first rounder for Jeff Green what do we think Wright will fetch?

Well, before the Cs acquired him he was considered the most efficient big man sub in the league and was most certainly worth a late first rounder. Now he is just an average big struggling to get minutes on a bad team. Why is he worth anymore than Kris Humphries (a TPE)?

Honestly, if all we are getting is a 2nd round pick, then I see no need to trade him. I was really hoping Danny knew something about Wright that the rest of the league didn't - meaning that the Rondo deal was actually worth it. I guess that was just stupid of me, though.

NBA GMs know what Wright is good for.
He's good as a hustling, rebounding big that will run the floor with your second unit and will cover poor rotations with weak side shot blocking. He runs the pick and roll and also defends the pick and roll. Sure he was incredibly efficient, but against elite bigs in the west he was consistently crushed due to his lack of strength- he also doesn't play a lot of minutes because he sucks against NBA starters.

Put it this way, if Brandon Bass can't get a first rounder, and Jeff Green can't get a first round pick, what makes you think that a good back up big man will fetch a first round pick?
What's most important here is probably the fact that he's expiring- if he had another year or two on his deal then I could possibly see a team giving up a pick in the 25-30 range but that's 5 or 7 teams in the NBA so it's very specific.
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Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2014, 09:44:35 AM »

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Before Wright is traded, he needs to establish value. He can't do that sitting on the bench.

I'd like to see what the guy can do on the floor. So far I haven't seen much too much.

His value is already set.  He has a portfolio of consistent work on a playoff team for multiple seasons. 

Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2014, 09:53:51 AM »

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At the deadline we can package Wright with other players so here's a proposal:

Boston sends: Wright, Green, Turner, LAC 1st

Charlotte sends: Williams, Henderson, Vonleh, Cha 2015 1st (top 5 protected).

You wouldn't need to wait till the deadline.  You could do Wright for Henderson in one trade and then do a second trade for the rest. 
good point but I wouldn't touch this deal regardless of how it's structure.

3 solid rotation players and a 1st
FOR
a nobody (Williams), a SG that's not progressing and would add more clutter to what we have without being an obvious step forward (Henderson - and I was really high on this kid 2 years ago), a PF prospect who isn't showing anything and again adds clutter to what we have without being a step forward (Vonleh - who Danny passed on this year and apparently without second thought) and a 1st that will be outside the lottery and a marginal move up in draft order over the pick we're giving up especially when Charlotte adds these players and starts to climb into the playoff picture in the weak East.

Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2014, 12:38:01 PM »

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At the deadline we can package Wright with other players so here's a proposal:

Boston sends: Wright, Green, Turner, LAC 1st

Charlotte sends: Williams, Henderson, Vonleh, Cha 2015 1st (top 5 protected).

You wouldn't need to wait till the deadline.  You could do Wright for Henderson in one trade and then do a second trade for the rest. 
good point but I wouldn't touch this deal regardless of how it's structure.

3 solid rotation players and a 1st
FOR
a nobody (Williams), a SG that's not progressing and would add more clutter to what we have without being an obvious step forward (Henderson - and I was really high on this kid 2 years ago), a PF prospect who isn't showing anything and again adds clutter to what we have without being a step forward (Vonleh - who Danny passed on this year and apparently without second thought) and a 1st that will be outside the lottery and a marginal move up in draft order over the pick we're giving up especially when Charlotte adds these players and starts to climb into the playoff picture in the weak East.

Charlotte's in tatters right now. Big Al is out for a month. Stephenson is out and not playing well anyway. They're at #6 now and I think even with the new arrivals you're looking at a pick in the 10-12 range.

I agree that Williams and Henderson are filler only. But if you split it up I think you can see that we're getting good value. E.g.,

Wright and LAC 1st for Cha 1st: I think many people would be happy to get a late 1st for Wright. Isn't packaging him and #22 for #12 better value?

Green and Turner for Vonleh: All depends on what you think of Vonleh, but he was a top 10 pick last year. Again, if you think a mid to late 1st is good value for Green, this is even better.


Re: Who can the Celtics get for Brandan Wright?
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2014, 01:49:03 PM »

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At the deadline we can package Wright with other players so here's a proposal:

Boston sends: Wright, Green, Turner, LAC 1st

Charlotte sends: Williams, Henderson, Vonleh, Cha 2015 1st (top 5 protected).

Wright's a glue guy -- he will almost certainly be traded to a playoff team.
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