Jaylen Brown was offered 4 years $80M

[Somebody]

Collective Bargaining Agreement question:  Can the C's offer a 5 year extension?

Yes, but it has to be a max, or least in the first year of the deal.

[jambr380]

The most we can pay him on a 4 yr contract next offseason is about $130M and the most another team can pay him is about $125M.

Really no reason for the Cs to go that high since that is essentially the most Jaylen can be offered by another team in the offseason (where we could just match). I mean, I would love to have Jaylen back and think he has a bright future, but if we're essentially offering a 4-yr max extension, then I am kind of like 'meh' on the deal. I'd rather let him prove it this season and maintain the flexibility of being able to trade him at the deadline.

[timpiker]

The most we can pay him on a 4 yr contract next offseason is about $130M and the most another team can pay him is about $125M.

Really no reason for the Cs to go that high since that is essentially the most Jaylen can be offered by another team in the offseason (where we could just match). I mean, I would love to have Jaylen back and think he has a bright future, but if we're essentially offering a 4-yr max extension, then I am kind of like 'meh' on the deal. I'd rather let him prove it this season and maintain the flexibility of being able to trade him at the deadline.

Agreed.  I like him and want to keep him - at the right price.  There's no reason to throw money around just because other teams are desperate and stupid.  I hope he has a great year and proves he deserves the max.  But right now, no way.

[KGs Knee]

I think given the uncertainty of next season's salary cap Boston is best off waiting to make any further offers.  $20m per may not even be that far off from the 25% max next year.

[saltlover]

I think given the uncertainty of next season's salary cap Boston is best off waiting to make any further offers.  $20m per may not even be that far off from the 25% max next year.

$20 million a year will be significantly off the max, even with a sizable drop in revenues.  Even if the salary cap were to be 20% lower than projected for next season (which outstrips the worst-case scenarios of 15% by a healthy amount), a max deal for Jaylen would be about $26 million a year over four years, or 30% more than $20 million a year.  And again, that’s with a miss of 20%.  15%, which seems to be worst-case, is 4 years, $110 million.

[SHAQATTACK]

110 million is my guess.  Any less and he just loves CBs and being a Celtic.

[IDreamCeltics]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

[gouki88]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

Brown should make an All-Star team and average 20-5-5 over three seasons then

[Muzzy66]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

Brown should make an All-Star team and average 20-5-5 over three seasons then

I agree.

In the three seasons prior to signing with Boston, Gordon Hayward put up the following:

19.3 / 4.9 / 4.1 / 45% / 36% / 81%
19.7 / 5.0 / 3.7 / 43% / 35% / 82%
21.9 / 5.4 / 3.5 / 47% / 40% / 84%

Jaylen has yet to put up a single season that has come anywhere even remotely close to those numbers. 

And I wasn't even convinced that Hayward was worthy of being offered a max deal, even after those three seasons.  I really wanted Boston to go hard after Paul George or Jimmy Butler because I saw Hayward as being at best a #2 or #3 guy on a contender.

Brown is a fraction of the player Hayward was prior to the injury and is absolutely not worth that type of money.

[saltlover]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

Brown should make an All-Star team and average 20-5-5 over three seasons then

Hayward got the max before doing that.

[Alleyoopster]

Jaylen - given you've been out of action with back problems and other ailments over your career, seriously consider this offer. Injuries always crop up in the NBA and other professional sports. All it takes is one fall and your career is over. 

If you are into gambling (on your health). Then, take your chances. But, before you do, you may want to talk with Nomar Garciaparra. Injuries and poor/unrealistic negotiation skills led him to lose out on 10's of millions of $$$$.

Carefully weigh that $80 million gamble.

https://www.12up.com/posts/4265380-6-mlb-players-who-have-foolishly-rejected-huge-contracts

For those interested in a more comprehensive review of Nomar's contract situation.
https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=mnookin/060712

[keevsnick]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

Brown should make an All-Star team and average 20-5-5 over three seasons then

I agree.

In the three seasons prior to signing with Boston, Gordon Hayward put up the following:

19.3 / 4.9 / 4.1 / 45% / 36% / 81%
19.7 / 5.0 / 3.7 / 43% / 35% / 82%
21.9 / 5.4 / 3.5 / 47% / 40% / 84%

Jaylen has yet to put up a single season that has come anywhere even remotely close to those numbers. 

And I wasn't even convinced that Hayward was worthy of being offered a max deal, even after those three seasons.  I really wanted Boston to go hard after Paul George or Jimmy Butler because I saw Hayward as being at best a #2 or #3 guy on a contender.

Brown is a fraction of the player Hayward was prior to the injury and is absolutely not worth that type of money.

Ummmm, those are the three season after Hayward got his rookie extension.

In the previous four seasons he was

16.2/5.1/5.2/ 41.3/30.4/81.6
14.1/3.1/3.0/43.5/41.5/82.7
11.8/3.5/3.1/45.6/34.6/83.2
5.4/1.9/1.1/48.5/47.3/71.1

After those first three seasons is where Jaylen brown is currently. The jazz didn't sign him to an  extension, and told him to go find what he could on the open market. Hayward signed a 3 year offer sheet which the jazz matched and reportedly that "slight" played a role in his  leaving the last time he became a free agent. At the very least if they'd offered him a four year extension they would have had him an extra year, which would have overlapped with Donovan Mitchells first year and then who knows maybe he stays and the Jazz have a Mitchell, Hayward, Gobert nucleus. All in all a good reminder that there is risk in not signing guys to an extension.

[gpap]

I know some may disagree, but I think a fair comp to Jaylen is Harrison Barnes. Athletic talented player, good head on his shoulders, who can knock down the 3. Barnes got 4 years, 85 million from Sactown. I think 4 yrs/$85 mil for JB is a very fair deal.

Jaylen has matured as a player and also seems like a guy with a very good head on his shoulders that can be a role model for his teammates and fans.

I don't think 4 years/85 million is chump change by any means. And by the way, I think both Ben Simmons and Jamaal Murray got ROYALLY OVERPAID!

[Surferdad]

Looks like Hayward's massive contract is probably the starting point in Brown's mind.

Brown should make an All-Star team and average 20-5-5 over three seasons then

I agree.

In the three seasons prior to signing with Boston, Gordon Hayward put up the following:

19.3 / 4.9 / 4.1 / 45% / 36% / 81%
19.7 / 5.0 / 3.7 / 43% / 35% / 82%
21.9 / 5.4 / 3.5 / 47% / 40% / 84%

Jaylen has yet to put up a single season that has come anywhere even remotely close to those numbers. 

And I wasn't even convinced that Hayward was worthy of being offered a max deal, even after those three seasons.  I really wanted Boston to go hard after Paul George or Jimmy Butler because I saw Hayward as being at best a #2 or #3 guy on a contender.

Brown is a fraction of the player Hayward was prior to the injury and is absolutely not worth that type of money.

Ummmm, those are the three season after Hayward got his rookie extension.

In the previous four seasons he was

16.2/5.1/5.2/ 41.3/30.4/81.6
14.1/3.1/3.0/43.5/41.5/82.7
11.8/3.5/3.1/45.6/34.6/83.2
5.4/1.9/1.1/48.5/47.3/71.1

After those first three seasons is where Jaylen brown is currently. The jazz didn't sign him to an  extension, and told him to go find what he could on the open market. Hayward signed a 3 year offer sheet which the jazz matched and reportedly that "slight" played a role in his  leaving the last time he became a free agent. At the very least if they'd offered him a four year extension they would have had him an extra year, which would have overlapped with Donovan Mitchells first year and then who knows maybe he stays and the Jazz have a Mitchell, Hayward, Gobert nucleus. All in all a good reminder that there is risk in not signing guys to an extension.

What's more, Hayward was the focal point of the offense in Utah, something that has never been the case for Brown.

[NKY fan]

If Danny alienates another young and “promising” player maybe ownership should look into his decision making deeper.
He can’t risk another rozier situation after last years dysfunctional situation.
There is a decent chance that brown gets 20 min a game max off the bench in which case he will start complaining. I am not saying rozier was a bad teammate last year but after he won us a few games against the bucks in 2018 playoffs he might have had a point.

Danny refused to trade brown for the likes of kawhi and Davis and now he’s lowballing him... it makes no sense. Just pay him $145M over 5 years and be done with this. All of this financial flexibility and “the right “ way of running the franchise has brought us 0 banners since the big three in their prime.. that’s 10 years plus and counting.

If Danny let’s brown leave or sign him to the QO next year someone has to hold him accountable for the missed chance of having kawhi on out team last year...