Bucks (0-0) at Celtics (0-1) Game #2 10/18/17

[hardlyyardley]

Shot clock wind down syndrome.....assist o basket ratio seemed low

[GratefulCs]

i don't know why people keep bringing up IT's historic season

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why not bring up pierce's best year? or bird's?


none of them are happening again whether he was on our team or not

[max215]

Celtics in big trouble

Tends to happen when you lose your best player.

[mr. dee]

13 FT for Giannis alone. Celtics as team only have 21.

[blink]

i don't know why people keep bringing up IT's historic season

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why not bring up pierce's best year? or bird's?


none of them are happening again whether he was on our team or not

yup, exactly.  get over it guys, we only have the guys we have on our team right now.

[kozlodoev]

Down 5 with 45 seconds to go? Nah, we're too cool for timeouts, a contested Irving pull-up will do.


This type of "coaching" is infuriating. 

TP. Don't understand Brad's philosophy with not calling timeouts in those situations either.

And it's not like we were rolling offensively either. If I recall correctly, the previous possession ended with a horrible looking Smart three.

[D Dub]

2 games in and Kyrie did something IT didn't do last year: 18 missed FGAs in one game.

It will get better, but these first two games have been depressing, albeit in wildly different ways.

Yea Kyrie looks terrible. 

It's going to be a long season.

[liam]

The Greek went to the line 13 times and the refs fouled out our best player....

Yes, the mindset of perennial losers.

Calling me a "loser" just highlights your ignorance....

[Tr1boy]

2 games in and Kyrie did something IT didn't do last year: 18 missed FGAs in one game.

It will get better, but these first two games have been depressing, albeit in wildly different ways.

Yea Kyrie looks terrible. 

It's going to be a long season.

IT4 with a smile thinking.... i told you so Danny

Kyrie looking lost so far

[max215]

Holy hell, people need to chiiillllllaaaaxxxxx. This is virtually a brand new team playing a really tough double-double to start the season. Oh, and we're literally down two starters who happen to play the same position as the guy that's killing us, not even mentioning the Hayward incident...

They deserve time, but Kyrie is still the same player he was in Cleveland. If you're relying on that player to take you places...good luck.

Dude had 22 pts, 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals last night. It's a little arbitrary to pick this one out of the hat on the second night of a back to back... the second night of the sesaon with a brand new team... against a really good defensive team... and down two starters.

He played well yesterday (on the assists, though, rewatch them and honestly tell me that you think he's a good passer). Again, Kyrie is a very good player. Very good players have down nights. His style, however, is constant, and it's not a style that's conducive to winning.

You're not giving him enough credit or the benefit of the doubt. He had a terrible night, but given the context it's understandable. It's going to take awhile for him to get acclimated to this system and out of the iso-heavy system he spent six years in with Cleveland.

How has he earned benefit of the doubt? He's always been this player. Why do you expect him to radically change all of a sudden? Say what you want about Brad's system, but more so than ball movement, the central tenet of the system has always been player maximization. Brad's not going to try to change what Kyrie's good at (isolation scoring), he's going to try to maximize it. And I'm sure he will, but that skill maximized is not good enough to win. So, sure, Kyrie will likely get better as the year progresses, but the long-term health of this franchise is in jeopardy if all our eggs are actually in the Kyrie Irving basket.

[Who]

Tatum with 10 and 9 rebounds in his first two games.  Nice to see.

Yeah, Tatum has done a great job helping out on the boards. Aggressive rebounder.

[gouki88]

2 games in and Kyrie did something IT didn't do last year: 18 missed FGAs in one game.

It will get better, but these first two games have been depressing, albeit in wildly different ways.

Yea Kyrie looks terrible. 

It's going to be a long season.

IT4 with a smile thinking.... i told you so Danny

Kyrie looking lost so far

He had one really good game and one really poor one. Am I missing something here, or are you all just overreacting??

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

Guys, we don’t have our best player. Plus half of our rotation is players with 1-2 years of experience.  I’m frustrated with the loss, Kyrie looked awful, but chill.  It’s very very early.

[blink]

Holy hell, people need to chiiillllllaaaaxxxxx. This is virtually a brand new team playing a really tough double-double to start the season. Oh, and we're literally down two starters who happen to play the same position as the guy that's killing us, not even mentioning the Hayward incident...

They deserve time, but Kyrie is still the same player he was in Cleveland. If you're relying on that player to take you places...good luck.

Dude had 22 pts, 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals last night. It's a little arbitrary to pick this one out of the hat on the second night of a back to back... the second night of the sesaon with a brand new team... against a really good defensive team... and down two starters.

He played well yesterday (on the assists, though, rewatch them and honestly tell me that you think he's a good passer). Again, Kyrie is a very good player. Very good players have down nights. His style, however, is constant, and it's not a style that's conducive to winning.

You're not giving him enough credit or the benefit of the doubt. He had a terrible night, but given the context it's understandable. It's going to take awhile for him to get acclimated to this system and out of the iso-heavy system he spent six years in with Cleveland.

How has he earned benefit of the doubt? He's always been this player. Why do you expect him to radically change all of a sudden? Say what you want about Brad's system, but more so than ball movement, the central tenet of the system has always been player maximization. Brad's not going to try to change what Kyrie's good at (isolation scoring), he's going to try to maximize it. And I'm sure he will, but that skill maximized is not good enough to win. So, sure, Kyrie will likely get better as the year progresses, but the long-term health of this franchise is in jeopardy if all our eggs are actually in the Kyrie Irving basket.

How are they all in the Kyrie basket anymore than they are in the GH basket or the Al Horford basket?  I don't understand that.  We got 3 max guys on the team now, two stud young players.  everything doesn't come down on Kyrie's shoulders.  Our poor ball movement and poor player movement tonight isn't all on KI.

[Who]

Don't mind this loss that much. I expected this to be a tough game. Milwaukee a hard match-up for the Celtics right now with Hayward and Morris out injured. It was a close game. The young guys did great work for the team - Jaylen, Rozier, Tatum, Smart. If it wasn't for an absolute stinker of a performance from Kyrie, they would have won.