#DeflateGate (Court of Appeals Reinstates Suspension)

[Beat LA]

How many thousands of texts have all of you gotten? What? You deleted some? You don't actually have every phone you ever touched? Then you're guilty of whatever they try to find.

[Beat LA]

Brady finally comes out with a statement (you know, for the people in this thread that kinda actually care and have been following this from the start  )

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/29/tom-brady-im-very-disappointed-i-did-nothing-wrong/

Lol , you make it sound like a badge of honor.  It's not like we're talking about the pentagon papers, here .

[Beat LA]

put another way: the reason there are reporters 'still' covering Deflategate is the same reason we can have a multi-page thread about RJ Hunter months before the regular season starts. It has very little to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of the happenings, but simply the fact that the happenings exist.

  As far as the nfl goes, whether or not Brady gets suspended for four games seems like big news.

Certainly a bigger deal than RJ Hunter scoring 96 points. That was responding to the question "why are people still focusing on this?" and the answer is that it's the NFL -- the audience is voracious enough that they'll turn anything into a newsworthy story, "worthwhile" or not.

In your opinion, perhaps, but discussing RJ Hunter's summer league performance does tend to carry more weight, almost by default, on a blog dedicated to all things related to the Celtics .

[D.o.s.]

... got me.

[Donoghus]

Brady finally comes out with a statement (you know, for the people in this thread that kinda actually care and have been following this from the start  )

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/29/tom-brady-im-very-disappointed-i-did-nothing-wrong/

Lol , you make it sound like a badge of honor.  It's not like we're talking about the pentagon papers, here .

Sure.  And your ignorance on it is commendable also.

[Beat LA]

Brady finally comes out with a statement (you know, for the people in this thread that kinda actually care and have been following this from the start  )

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/29/tom-brady-im-very-disappointed-i-did-nothing-wrong/

Lol , you make it sound like a badge of honor.  It's not like we're talking about the pentagon papers, here .

Sure.  And your ignorance on it is commendable also.

Thanks, lol .  However, in this case I think it's hard to argue that ignorance isn't bliss .

[colincb]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/07/29/pete-roses-investigator-says-tom-brady-was-ambushed-by-goodell/

The actual video is what to watch there. He's very dismissive of the whole enterprise and has obviously relevantexpertise.

Dowd argues that Tom Brady is being convicted and suspended for an offense that he had no notice of.

“He was not suspended for failing to produce his telephone. If you read The Wells Report, it was based on alleged tampering and the text information. It wasn’t until he got on appeal that he was advised for the first time that his failure to produce the phone was a separate charge -- and that is a gross violation of fundamental fairness and due process if you will,” he said.

[Donoghus]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/07/29/pete-roses-investigator-says-tom-brady-was-ambushed-by-goodell/

The actual video is what to watch there. He's very dismissive of the whole enterprise and has obviously relevantexpertise.

Dowd argues that Tom Brady is being convicted and suspended for an offense that he had no notice of.

“He was not suspended for failing to produce his telephone. If you read The Wells Report, it was based on alleged tampering and the text information. It wasn’t until he got on appeal that he was advised for the first time that his failure to produce the phone was a separate charge -- and that is a gross violation of fundamental fairness and due process if you will,” he said.

You mean the NFL was...gulp.... "moving the goalposts" here?

Sorry, bad pun.

[Beat LA]

Last point - wouldn't this whole thing have been over months ago if they had just let TMZ take over?  I'm not joking, here, btw - they have a sports division now and an excellent legal team.  Plus, they'd definitely add a considerable amount of humor to it.  What's the downside?

[BballTim]

Sure, it goes to another device. Do you realize that the other person may have deleted the text? And obviously it's impractical to follow up on each of the thousands of texts to see if there was any relevant information, and probably well beyond the reach of the investigation.

Yeah, and all of this is true for Brady's phone as well.

Also, there's no telling how many actual recipients there were of the "thousands of texts".

By the way, Kraft said that they NFL received access to the phone of every non-NFLPA employee that it requested, including Belichick (so much about the crackpot theory of him being "protected" here).

  One would wonder whether "the NFL received access to the phone of every non-NFLPA employee that it requested" is just another way to say "access to the phone of everyone involved except for Brady". For the record, I'm not saying that Brady had to turn his phone over, but for someone who's innocent and has nothing to hide, he's acting more like the opposite is true.

[BballTim]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/07/29/pete-roses-investigator-says-tom-brady-was-ambushed-by-goodell/

The actual video is what to watch there. He's very dismissive of the whole enterprise and has obviously relevantexpertise.

Dowd argues that Tom Brady is being convicted and suspended for an offense that he had no notice of.

“He was not suspended for failing to produce his telephone. If you read The Wells Report, it was based on alleged tampering and the text information. It wasn’t until he got on appeal that he was advised for the first time that his failure to produce the phone was a separate charge -- and that is a gross violation of fundamental fairness and due process if you will,” he said.

You mean the NFL was...gulp.... "moving the goalposts" here?

Sorry, bad pun.

  IMO a pretty good pun.

[PhoSita]

Last point - wouldn't this whole thing have been over months ago if they had just let TMZ take over?  I'm not joking, here, btw - they have a sports division now and an excellent legal team.  Plus, they'd definitely add a considerable amount of humor to it.  What's the downside?

This whole thing would have been over months ago if the NFL had done a routine internal investigation sans the multi-million dollar report and then utilized an actually independent arbitrator.

[Beat LA]

Last point - wouldn't this whole thing have been over months ago if they had just let TMZ take over?  I'm not joking, here, btw - they have a sports division now and an excellent legal team.  Plus, they'd definitely add a considerable amount of humor to it.  What's the downside?

This whole thing would have been over months ago if the NFL had done a routine internal investigation sans the multi-million dollar report and then utilized an actually independent arbitrator.

Oh you .

[kozlodoev]

Sure, it goes to another device. Do you realize that the other person may have deleted the text? And obviously it's impractical to follow up on each of the thousands of texts to see if there was any relevant information, and probably well beyond the reach of the investigation.

Yeah, and all of this is true for Brady's phone as well.

Also, there's no telling how many actual recipients there were of the "thousands of texts".

By the way, Kraft said that they NFL received access to the phone of every non-NFLPA employee that it requested, including Belichick (so much about the crackpot theory of him being "protected" here).

  One would wonder whether "the NFL received access to the phone of every non-NFLPA employee that it requested" is just another way to say "access to the phone of everyone involved except for Brady". For the record, I'm not saying that Brady had to turn his phone over, but for someone who's innocent and has nothing to hide, he's acting more like the opposite is true.

Even folks who have nothing to hide typically go to court with an attorney.

[colincb]

Last point - wouldn't this whole thing have been over months ago if they had just let TMZ take over?  I'm not joking, here, btw - they have a sports division now and an excellent legal team.  Plus, they'd definitely add a considerable amount of humor to it.  What's the downside?

This whole thing would have been over months ago if the NFL had done a routine internal investigation sans the multi-million dollar report and then utilized an actually independent arbitrator.

You're right, but Goodell wanted to win the case or give the appearance that he tried.