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Langford Fits in Well with the Young Core
« on: June 24, 2019, 03:56:20 AM »

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He gives us a different look and something different they brown and tatum don't bring. He's a slasher who can handle the ball and who can play multiple positions. He has a nice touch and after his hand injury fully recovers, he will be back in business. Good transition game, smart on the open floor.

This kid was a 5 star high school recruit. Not saying every 5 star high school recruit pans out, but he's long, has many strengths, and a clearly decent ceiling. Give him the Celtics shooting coach that taught brown how to hit the 3. Picking at 14 wasn't going to get us a "sure-thing." but we have a nice prospect

I dont get what there's not to like. I also keep seeing people say he's "redundant" and we "already have brown and tatum and Hayward. Why do we need Langford"

-You can never have too many wings
-There are 17 roster spots on a team
-Someone's gotta come off the bench.. Brown/tatum/Hayward can't play 40 minutes each
-langford is a good prospect. Even if we had 10 players like tatum and brown, id still get langford



As for his weaknesses:

-Stevens and staff need to fix his defense
-Give him the shooting coach that taught Brown how to hit the 3


Itll take time but it will pay dividends in the long run to have this kid.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 04:24:56 AM »

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After watching a bunch of videos and analysis of his game, I really like the pick. He's a scorer, has a bit of Jrue holiday's game in him (less passing and defense right now though). Great a getting to the free throw line, prolific scorer, and good change of pace. This was a high upside pick vs needs, and if he pans out you always find room for a player like this in the rotation.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 05:24:27 AM »

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The more I watch of him the more I like...obviously he will start on the bench but after Hayward contract is up I can see him becoming our starting shooting guard with Brown moving to the 3 and Tatum at the 4.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 05:56:35 AM »

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His question marks on defence are big ones (off-ball defence) but he's going to a team with one of the best defensive guards in the league in Smart. If he chooses to put in the work and learn then he'll come good in that regard. He's also a bit too focused on his offense but I think that will adapt as he realises he is with much better teammates than in the past.

Overall I'm very happy with the pick. He's a smooth scorer and he's aggressive. He's a great addition to a young guard rotation, particularly if we are moving Smart over to the 1 spot more this season.

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2019, 06:13:08 AM »

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I said on RGM that he will be our starting PG in a couple seasons, book it!  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2019, 06:32:46 AM »

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Certainly seems like a value pick. If he hadn't injured his hand it's conceivable that his shooting percentages could have all been higher by 5 or 6 percent or so. That might have put him in the top 10 picks.

Looking at how the draft board turned out, you can definitely make the argument that he was the best player available.

As for redundancy, I don't see how any team can consider that when drafting young players. You never know what's going to happen regarding the players that are already on the team. Just look at what happened at the end of this season!

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2019, 06:46:11 AM »

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The more I watch the more i dislike.

I dont like players that give up on defemse and play completely disinterested on that end.

I also dont like when I see teammates drop their hands when a player gets the ball. (That indicates they know they are not getting it back) right now I wouldnt value him more than rozier.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2019, 08:00:41 AM »

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The more I watch the more i dislike.

I dont like players that give up on defemse and play completely disinterested on that end.

I also dont like when I see teammates drop their hands when a player gets the ball. (That indicates they know they are not getting it back) right now I wouldnt value him more than rozier.

His off ball awareness really does suck right now. If he wants to become anything in the league then he needs to sort it out. I think Brad's system will force him to learn it though, the read and react doesn't allow you to switch off because you can always be involved. And he'll need to get that if he wants to see time on the floor

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2019, 08:16:57 AM »

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I hope he can be a spark plug off the bench. I hope the C’s have a plan to shore up that big man position though
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The more I watch the more i dislike.

I dont like players that give up on defemse and play completely disinterested on that end.

I also dont like when I see teammates drop their hands when a player gets the ball. (That indicates they know they are not getting it back) right now I wouldnt value him more than rozier.

His off ball awareness really does suck right now. If he wants to become anything in the league then he needs to sort it out. I think Brad's system will force him to learn it though, the read and react doesn't allow you to switch off because you can always be involved. And he'll need to get that if he wants to see time on the floor
Which really makes drafting him at #14 questionable. The chances of him hitting his ceiling isn't really that high, and even if he does it's not like he'll be head and shoulders above other prospects available at #14 assuming they also hit their ceilings (which is more likely to happen imo).
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2019, 09:14:21 AM »

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Marcus Smart was excited about the pick, therefore I'm excited about the pick.

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He gives us a different look and something different they brown and tatum don't bring. He's a slasher who can handle the ball and who can play multiple positions. He has a nice touch and after his hand injury fully recovers, he will be back in business. Good transition game, smart on the open floor.

This kid was a 5 star high school recruit. Not saying every 5 star high school recruit pans out, but he's long, has many strengths, and a clearly decent ceiling. Give him the Celtics shooting coach that taught brown how to hit the 3. Picking at 14 wasn't going to get us a "sure-thing." but we have a nice prospect

I dont get what there's not to like. I also keep seeing people say he's "redundant" and we "already have brown and tatum and Hayward. Why do we need Langford"

-You can never have too many wings
-There are 17 roster spots on a team
-Someone's gotta come off the bench.. Brown/tatum/Hayward can't play 40 minutes each
-langford is a good prospect. Even if we had 10 players like tatum and brown, id still get langford



As for his weaknesses:

-Stevens and staff need to fix his defense
-Give him the shooting coach that taught Brown how to hit the 3


Itll take time but it will pay dividends in the long run to have this kid.
Very good points, but I have issues with some of them. Assuming that Brad doesn't play Hayward at PG or PF (the latter which I support), there will only be 96 minutes to go around for all 3 of them, and that's not even factoring Smart's ability to play as a combo guard. Drafting a high risk prospect like Langford demands attention and minutes, and I don't really see where we can afford that barring an injury. It's not like he's a Jayson Tatum who had a pretty high floor when he was drafted to earn minutes under Brad. As for the "you can never have too many wings" argument, I agree with the sentiment itself, but there are different kinds of wings. You have wings like Brown who can play 2/3, pure SFs like Tatum and Hayward (Utah Hayward was a 2/3, but he's lost that step to play the 2 imo after the injury), "swings" like Morris who can play 3/4 and freaks like Kawhi/George who can play 2/3/4 (Giannis is another variant of this who can play 3/4/5). What we have are wings that really struggle to play the 4 full time, and drafting a 1/2/3 (with 1 and 3 being major question marks atm) wing in Langford isn't going to help with our versatility, it'd exacerbate the existing logjam of wings that can only play 2/3. What we needed (if we had to go down the wing hoarding route) was a Doumbouya type who can play 3/4, although he has an even lower floor due to his lack of skills. My main gripe was that we could've selected a few prospects (including Doumbouya) who'd give us a similarly good overall floor/ceiling mix (lower floor but higher ceiling/higher floor but lower ceiling/similar in both) and would've filled some holes in our team, aside from not causing even more of a logjam from happening. I'm not too mad with the pick though, if Celtics fans had their way we'd be seeing Bol Bol drafted at #14, which would've made us the laughingstock of the league.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2019, 09:29:02 AM »

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Langford is best suited to be a shooting guard. If we don't bring Rozier back, there's plenty of minutes up for grabs.

One thing the C's should consider is to experiment with Jaylen at power forward in spots. I'd rather see him defending down there than Tatum or Hayward. He's as long as Tatum is. He's also stronger than our other wings and defends post ups better, and he would eat power forwards alive on offense. It would also free up a few extra minutes for Langford if he shows he's ready.

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Langford is best suited to be a shooting guard. If we don't bring Rozier back, there's plenty of minutes up for grabs.

One thing the C's should consider is to experiment with Jaylen at power forward in spots. I'd rather see him defending down there than Tatum or Hayward. He's as long as Tatum is. He's also stronger than our other wings and defends post ups better, and he would eat power forwards alive on offense. It would also free up a few extra minutes for Langford if he shows he's ready.
He's actually shorter than Tatum in both height and wingspan measurements lol. Okay for small ball in spurts, but not really more than 10-15 minutes imo (and even that's a stretch).
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Langford is best suited to be a shooting guard. If we don't bring Rozier back, there's plenty of minutes up for grabs.

One thing the C's should consider is to experiment with Jaylen at power forward in spots. I'd rather see him defending down there than Tatum or Hayward. He's as long as Tatum is. He's also stronger than our other wings and defends post ups better, and he would eat power forwards alive on offense. It would also free up a few extra minutes for Langford if he shows he's ready.
He's actually shorter than Tatum in both height and wingspan measurements lol. Okay for small ball in spurts, but not really more than 10-15 minutes imo (and even that's a stretch).

Tatum's wingspan is listed at 6'11 by most sources, Jaylen's at 7'0. He does have Jaylen beat at standing reach with 8'11 vs 8'9. Thats  probably a more relevant number for a PF in a lot of ways.
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