Top 10 Offensive NBA Players?

[smokeablount]

While watching the Spurs Suns game last night, I was thinking about who I would pick if I had to choose the ten best offensive players in the league.  Not just scorers, but passers, and guys who attact a ton of attention that allows other players on the team to get easier looks. 

I quickly hashed out my ten guys and a bench, and I'm curious what others think.  I really wanted to put Pierce in the top 10, but I couldn't justify putting him ahead of Dirk, even though he's a better overall player, so he's stuck at 11. 

Top 10:

10 Dirk

9 McGrady

8 Deron Williams

7 Arenas

6 Allen Iverson
 
5 Nash

4 Amare

3 Kobe

2 Chris Paul

1 Lebron



Neglected Starting Five:

Tony Parker
Pierce
Carmelo
Gasol
Duncan

[wdleehi]

1) Lebron
2) Kobe
3) Paul
4) AI
5) Melo
6) Nash
7) Dirk
Duncan
9) Amare
10)Pierce

[shookones99]

1) Kobe
1a)Lebron
3) CP3
4) DWade
5) Nash
6) AI
7) Amare
8. Melo
9) Pierce
10)TMac

[bringbackcousy]

1. Lebron
2. Kobe
3. CP3
4. Iverson
5. Amare
6. Nash
7. T-Mac
8. Big Al
9. Pierce
10.D Wade

snubs: Carmelo, Dirk, Parker

[indeedproceed]

smokesablount, awesome thread, just what I needed to avoid work today.

Top 10 Pure Scorers

1) Lebron James
2) Allen Iverson
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Kevin Martin
5) Tracy McGrady
6) Carmelo Anthony
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8 ) Paul Pierce
9) Al Jefferson
10) Chris Paul

Top 10 All Around Offensive PLayers

1) Lebron James
2) Chris Paul
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Deron Williams
5) Steve Nash
6) Tracy McGrady
7) Tim Duncan
Brandon Roy
9) Dirk Nowitski
10) Jason Kidd

[indeedproceed]

ANd you guys are just sleeping on Kevin Martin.

23.7 points scored on 15.0 fg's taken. 40% from 3pt, and 86% from the line on 9.5 ft's per game!

Thats the 5th most ft's taken in the league, 1.4 free throw attempts off of Dwight Howard's league leading 10.9. This is not some kind of 3pt shooting specialist, he's as good an all around scorer in the league. Stop napping and make it happen.

[shookones99]

ANd you guys are just sleeping on Kevin Martin.

23.7 points scored on 15.0 fg's taken. 40% from 3pt, and 86% from the line on 9.5 ft's per game!

Thats the 5th most ft's taken in the league, 1.4 free throw attempts off of Dwight Howard's league leading 10.9. This is not some kind of 3pt shooting specialist, he's as good an all around scorer in the league. Stop napping and make it happen.

I like Kevin Martin.  I really do.  But how on earth could you  possibly put him above Melo, Tmac, Pierce, CP3, or Dirk.

[indeedproceed]

ANd you guys are just sleeping on Kevin Martin.

23.7 points scored on 15.0 fg's taken. 40% from 3pt, and 86% from the line on 9.5 ft's per game!

Thats the 5th most ft's taken in the league, 1.4 free throw attempts off of Dwight Howard's league leading 10.9. This is not some kind of 3pt shooting specialist, he's as good an all around scorer in the league. Stop napping and make it happen.

I like Kevin Martin.  I really do.  But how on earth could you  possibly put him above Melo, Tmac, Pierce, CP3, or Dirk.

The numbers speak man. Dirk had an off year, Pierce and T-Mac to me are debatable, but I think both are better all around players at this point in their careers than they are pure scorers. Both Pierce and TMac have lost a step, but gained both offensive awareness and old man hustle for boards. Kevin Martin is kind of one dimensional, but points wise he did more with less.

Also until Carmelo Anthony gets better shot selection or just flat out starts making more baskets in my book Kevin Martin is better. Carmelo Anthony is a volume shooter, and he gets to the line less. He's still 6th on my list but I just think Martin is better.

[Redz]

These lists look about right.

I'd have a hard time leaving Ginobili off or a healthy Arenas.

BTW - good to see you back around Smokeablount

[ManUp]

Great Idea. This is going to be hard.

Top Ten
From a pure scoring standpoint

1.Kobe Bryant
2.(A distant two) Lebron James
3.Allen Iverson
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Dirk Nowitzki
6.Paul Pierce
7.Vince Carter
8.Carmelo Anthony
9.Amare Stoudamire
10.Al Jefferson

It did it from a scoring stand point because it's hard to define what a top ten offensive player should be or do.

[MVPPierceNoJoke]

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
are the first tier


Melo
Pierce
Iverson
McGrady
D. Williams
Nash
Dirk
second tier

Amare
Boozer
Al J.
KMart
Carter

[crownsy]

smokesablount, awesome thread, just what I needed to avoid work today.

Top 10 Pure Scorers

1) Lebron James
2) Allen Iverson
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Kevin Martin
5) Tracy McGrady
6) Carmelo Anthony
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8 ) Paul Pierce
9) Al Jefferson
10) Chris Paul

Top 10 All Around Offensive PLayers

1) Lebron James
2) Chris Paul
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Deron Williams
5) Steve Nash
6) Tracy McGrady
7) Tim Duncan
Brandon Roy
9) Dirk Nowitski
10) Jason Kidd

just wondering, what does pierce lack on offense that drops him so far in teh overall list?

[wdleehi]

ANd you guys are just sleeping on Kevin Martin.

23.7 points scored on 15.0 fg's taken. 40% from 3pt, and 86% from the line on 9.5 ft's per game!

Thats the 5th most ft's taken in the league, 1.4 free throw attempts off of Dwight Howard's league leading 10.9. This is not some kind of 3pt shooting specialist, he's as good an all around scorer in the league. Stop napping and make it happen.

Seems awful close to the number Pierce put up his best seasons as the main and by far the best option on offense with the Celtics.

Just because Pierce now shares with KG and Ray, I don't downgrade him below Martin. 

[indeedproceed]

smokesablount, awesome thread, just what I needed to avoid work today.

Top 10 Pure Scorers

1) Lebron James
2) Allen Iverson
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Kevin Martin
5) Tracy McGrady
6) Carmelo Anthony
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8 ) Paul Pierce
9) Al Jefferson
10) Chris Paul

Top 10 All Around Offensive PLayers

1) Lebron James
2) Chris Paul
3) Kobe Bryant
4) Deron Williams
5) Steve Nash
6) Tracy McGrady
7) Tim Duncan
Brandon Roy
9) Dirk Nowitski
10) Jason Kidd

just wondering, what does pierce lack on offense that drops him so far in teh overall list?

good call, I kind of forgot about him. I'd put him behind McGrady and bump aging J-Kidd

[Big Ticket]

Pure scoring ability:

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Iverson
4. Melo
5. Amare
6. Arenas
7. Kevin Martin - IP convinced me.
8. TMac
9. Redd
10. Vince

(Sorry Dirk, two years ago I'da had you as high as #4, but your drop off in scoring, confidence, and killer instinct has been in free fall since the finals slipped away to the Heat).

Top 10 purely on positive affect on an offense right now:

1. Chris Paul
2. Steve Nash
3. LeBron
4. Kobe
5. Deron Williams
6. Kevin Martin, because he's so darn efficient
7. Amare
8t. KG
8t. Duncan
10. Monta Ellis (whaaaat?)