Lakers are 17-2, did their front office outmanuever the Celtics?

[Donoghus]

Lost by 14 to Dallas tonight.

[Moranis]

Lost by 14 to Dallas tonight.

didn't see the game, but it looks like they got blasted in the 3rd quarter.  anyone see it and know what happened.  Like was their foul trouble or something, or did they just get blasted in the quarter?

[Fafnir]

C's bet on Kyrie being the draw for Davis to be open to coming here. That bet failed for a lot of reasons. Some Ainge could have mitigated or dealt with, but most of them were baked in. (Gordon's injury the biggest, Kyrie being a weirdo loner the other)

The Lakers bet they could get a big time FA by virtue of long term courtships behind the scenes and their market. Clearly that succeed with LBJ and then he brought in Davis.

The built in advantages for LA are very real and they leveraged them well, even as they crapped all over themselves on the basketball side for the most part.

[Fafnir]

Kuzma and Rondo got roasted on D and Dallas got a ton of open threes all game in general. No one on the Lakers other than Davis/LeBron gave them much on offense either.

[Fierce1]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

[pearljammer10]

People forget that NOP owns the Lakers draft stock for the next, what, 5-6-7 years?

[slamtheking]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

[Fierce1]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

[bopna]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

Those players aint gonna get anything back without including the Memphis pick since Langford at this point is a bust and Theis and Kanter are both bench players.

[Fierce1]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

Those players aint gonna get anything back without including the Memphis pick since Langford at this point is a bust and Theis and Kanter are both bench players.

It doesn't have to be the Memphis pick.

As long as there's a pick involved, a team will bite.

[NKY fan]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

Those players aint gonna get anything back without including the Memphis pick since Langford at this point is a bust and Theis and Kanter are both bench players.

It doesn't have to be the Memphis pick.

As long as there's a pick involved, a team will bite.

When has danny traded a pick for a player excluding the IT trade and slam dunk trades like the KG trade? Danny loves those late first rounders for some reason

[Moranis]

People forget that NOP owns the Lakers draft stock for the next, what, 5-6-7 years?

protected #8-30 2021 (so only top 7 transfers) or unprotected in 2022, pick swap option in 2023, and then a 2024 or 2025 pick with NO selecting the year.

So only 2 picks owed outright with a swap option.

[slamtheking]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

Those players aint gonna get anything back without including the Memphis pick since Langford at this point is a bust and Theis and Kanter are both bench players.

It doesn't have to be the Memphis pick.

As long as there's a pick involved, a team will bite.

When has danny traded a pick for a player excluding the IT trade and slam dunk trades like the KG trade? Danny loves those late first rounders for some reason

What's missing here is common sense.

think about what the rebuttal is to my comments "C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion" so far --> the argument that we can combine a bunch of role players plus possibly Romeo (who someone is already calling a bust which I disagree with) and the Memphis pick (which I wouldn't ship out unless we have a legit high-quality starter coming back under contract for at least 2 years following the current one). 
-->the likelihood that Danny and another team in this league is going to move 4 players off our active 15 man roster, including 3 of our centers leaving only Timelord as the one remaining center who still hasn't figured out how to play team D nor provide much offense outside of an occasional dunk off a lob, is just non-existent.  Who's this trading partner that's going to uproot their team?  Who are the other players that would be coming back with this supposed superstar?  you realize that although those salaries would match to someone making over $18 mill a season in the offseason when you have time to adjust your roster with filler.  The deal automatically makes the C's short on the minimum number of players.  I don't know if that's even allowed or if there's a grace period for filling with vet min players (who won't be nearly as useful as the players you're shipping out) or converting 2-way contracts which is horrible because Tacko's clearly not ready to play and we lose time on how much contractual control we'd have over Tacko and Waters.

not thought out at all.

[NKY fan]

The difference between the Lakers and the Celtics is the Celtics can still upgrade the team, the Lakers can't!

Lakers simply have no more draft picks to offer because of the AD trade with the Pels.

Celts might look like a different team after the trade deadline.

C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion

Celts can go after a player worth 18m.
But Langford has to be included in the package.

Theis, Kanter, Langford, and Poirier will total around 15.7m.

Those players aint gonna get anything back without including the Memphis pick since Langford at this point is a bust and Theis and Kanter are both bench players.

It doesn't have to be the Memphis pick.

As long as there's a pick involved, a team will bite.

When has danny traded a pick for a player excluding the IT trade and slam dunk trades like the KG trade? Danny loves those late first rounders for some reason

What's missing here is common sense.

think about what the rebuttal is to my comments "C's are better stocked for the long haul but there won't be much action for the C's at the deadline.  only contracts of value to land a major player all belong to their 5 core players who are the ones that have gotten the C's into a finals appearance discussion" so far --> the argument that we can combine a bunch of role players plus possibly Romeo (who someone is already calling a bust which I disagree with) and the Memphis pick (which I wouldn't ship out unless we have a legit high-quality starter coming back under contract for at least 2 years following the current one). 
-->the likelihood that Danny and another team in this league is going to move 4 players off our active 15 man roster, including 3 of our centers leaving only Timelord as the one remaining center who still hasn't figured out how to play team D nor provide much offense outside of an occasional dunk off a lob, is just non-existent.  Who's this trading partner that's going to uproot their team?  Who are the other players that would be coming back with this supposed superstar?  you realize that although those salaries would match to someone making over $18 mill a season in the offseason when you have time to adjust your roster with filler.  The deal automatically makes the C's short on the minimum number of players.  I don't know if that's even allowed or if there's a grace period for filling with vet min players (who won't be nearly as useful as the players you're shipping out) or converting 2-way contracts which is horrible because Tacko's clearly not ready to play and we lose time on how much contractual control we'd have over Tacko and Waters.

not thought out at all.

I think the way it works when you trade 4 for 1 to match salaries is that you simultaneously receive 1 or 2 min salary players for which you don't have to match salaries or if we have a trade exception we can fit those one or two other players into the exception in which case they don't have to be min salary players as long as they fit in those exceptions. The key is that the trades are simultaneous so you don't break the min and max players on the rosters rules. I might be wrong ....

[Jvalin]

It's easier to build a championship team in LA/NYC/Miami than it is in Boston. Why? Cause the Lakers can suck all they want during the regular season and still end up signing LeBron in free agency. The Clips can finish 8th in the West and still persuade Kawhi to sign for them. The Nets can finish 6th in the East and still end up with KD-Kyrie. The Heat can finish 5th in the East and still end up signing LeBron and Bosh.

Likewise, it's easier to build a championship team in Boston than it is in Charlotte/Minneapolis/Denver/Milwaukee/you name it. The Bucks had max cap space this summer, yet they were never in the conversation for KD/Kawhi (not with realistic chances anyway). If the C's had Giannis/KAT/Jokic, I bet they could have attracted a KD/Kawhi type of talent via free agency.