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Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2017, 02:31:56 PM »

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An empty roster spot and failure to sign or trade for a vet--of course Danny is not to blame for Hayward but the DPE is unused .Danny is a bit to blame -NOT A BIG BIT
-The make up of roster is so young and filled with rookies
Training camp ,short pre season,schedule ,rooster make up,lack of practice-broken nose,facial fractures,bad backs and other injuries-
Defense and fatigue lead to injuries.
Two of our starters are 19 and 21-
I worry about kids vs men with this schedule.
1st place, Lost 2nd best player for the year. Danny deserves praise Rollie. The DPE will be used when it is buyout time. Let's get the best not waste it on what ifs. Danny has no blame in this season. Thies and Larkin were money well spent. Draft picks other than yabu has contributed when needed.
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Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2017, 02:58:54 PM »

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100% agree with the OP.  Danny's decision to build a bench through his "drafting ability" has really come back to bite this team.  Legit contenders have legit NBA veterans coming off their bench (example: San Antonio Spurs), but the Celtics inability to trade and consolidate draft picks over the years has forced them to compose a bench of crappy late first round and second round picks that no one else wanted. 

Danny also gets what I call "James Young Syndrome" where he falls in love with a young player with a low ceiling and refuses to cut bait and use their roster spot for someone who could help the team in the present.  Abdel Nader, Geurshon Yabusele, Kadeem Allen?  What the heck are these guys doing on a team that's literally contending for the finals?  That's three spots that could have guys who have actual NBA experience and could spell starters.

The Spurs have Kyle Anderson, Manu Ginobli, Derrick White, Dejoute Murray, and David Bertans playing significant minutes for them as late draft picks. They have all been developed in their system (Tony Parker is a starter, but him too).

On top of that Patty Mills, Danny Green, Brandon Paul, Jonathan Simmons (plays for Magic now), and Bryn Forbes are all guys who looked like they were on their way out of the league, but the Spurs developed them into role players in-house. They didn't just sign veterans -- they developed them.

Terry Rozier and Marcus Smart both look like guys who can contribute to a championship contending team. Smart and Rozier have already won playoff games for the Celtics. We will see on Yabu and Semi (as well as the late 1st 2018 pick), but both those guys have the elite raw abilities to make them good rotation players.

Maybe Ainge and CBS wanted to create a youthful, energetic, hungry environment to develop this team. Maybe they didn't want content players who knew their game.

Its fair to recognize the growing pains of the Celtic bench and be concerned. But I don't think its fair to assume these young guys are finished products.

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2017, 11:17:21 PM »

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Danny can’t be blamed for Hayward going down.

The only real room for criticism is that he didn’t sign anybody for the vet minimum to help with depth, relying too much on rookies.

that is a fair criticism. agreed. we need a better first 5 off the bench.  when hayward comes back

tatum?
morris
smart
Theis

i do not have much hope for semi or yabu or rozier. guess we will see how much time DA wants to spend on them. we need a stud scorer with DPE coming off bench,
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Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 09:40:29 AM »

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you cant blame Ainge for losing their #2 star in hayward. having him changes the total dynamic. You can stagger him/kyrie/horford/tatum more and have him lead the second unit when kyrie is out.

what I think you can blame ainge for is he hasnt used the DPE yet. and the celtics are relying on alot of rookies and G-league players for contributions. The bench desparately needs a scorer. But it seems like with their recent moves of pulling him early, they want to push Tatum to become more agressive and start becoming the focal point for that 2nd unit

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2017, 09:44:17 AM »

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Danny can’t be blamed for Hayward going down.

The only real room for criticism is that he didn’t sign anybody for the vet minimum to help with depth, relying too much on rookies.

Yea exactly. I assume this year he will start to fill out the bench of course this year if Hayward was healthy most likely one of JB or JT would be coming off the bench which would be a huge improvement on what we currently have.

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2017, 10:09:03 AM »

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No need to panic just yet.  The best time to use the DPE will probably be around the trade deadline/buyout time.  You can also cut Nader at that time to sign another vet to a minimum contract if you want.

It protects us to wait it out in case we have other injuries to see where are needs really are at.  In the meantime players like Theis and Larkin have been nice surprises.

I say let’s see how things play out before rushing to judgement.

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2017, 12:35:23 PM »

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No need to panic just yet.  The best time to use the DPE will probably be around the trade deadline/buyout time.  You can also cut Nader at that time to sign another vet to a minimum contract if you want.

It protects us to wait it out in case we have other injuries to see where are needs really are at.  In the meantime players like Theis and Larkin have been nice surprises.

I say let’s see how things play out before rushing to judgement.
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Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2017, 01:06:20 PM »

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Anyone decent who will play for vet min is going to golden state or the Cavs.  It’s not really an option for us.

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2017, 02:38:32 PM »

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Danny is a genius not future seer, there is no way he can know Gordon will get injured
so pls stop blame him on that

Re: Looks like Danny is a bit to blame
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2017, 03:59:12 PM »

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That 15th spot...Gerald Green for the minimum might have been helpful. Not sure why to not bring him back.