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Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #210 on: October 12, 2020, 01:14:43 PM »

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Adding shooters is a priority. So how about taking a shooter with our #47 second rounder?

I'm thinking that Sam Merrill would be a good pick with #47. He has a high BBIQ and can really shoot.
That's a guy that's well taught, has 4 years of college experience and can contribute right away as a cost-controlled 3-point-specialist bench player.

Sam Merrill college career: from three 319/759 (42%), 2-pointers 396/762 (52%), free throws 448/503 (89%), 62 TS% and ASS/TO 3.6/1.6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88bglFFocFg
I've been calling for him for a week or two now. He's truly elite shooting the ball. He's a better defender than given credit for, and his offence isn't only limited to shooting the 3. Will be a steal in the 2nd round

Corey Kispert is another one for the second round. He shot 43% from 3 last year and 39% for his career. Moves well and has been working out with Joe Harris. Would be nice in the 2nd round as a shooter off the bench.
I like Kispert. He's a really good shooter, as you mention. His release reminds me of RJ Hunter - lighting fast and smooth. Love the way Kispert moves and shoots.
He's also a good defender, or at least much better than most who have his offensive skillset. Wouldn't mind him if Merrill is off the board

The love the way he moves too. Very active high energy guy. He looks NBA ready, well, at least for some spot minutes off the bench. There are some good solid role players up and down this draft.

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Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #211 on: October 12, 2020, 02:58:47 PM »

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Adding shooters is a priority. So how about taking a shooter with our #47 second rounder?

I'm thinking that Sam Merrill would be a good pick with #47. He has a high BBIQ and can really shoot.
That's a guy that's well taught, has 4 years of college experience and can contribute right away as a cost-controlled 3-point-specialist bench player.

Sam Merrill college career: from three 319/759 (42%), 2-pointers 396/762 (52%), free throws 448/503 (89%), 62 TS% and ASS/TO 3.6/1.6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88bglFFocFg

Isn't that why we chose Carsen Edwards, to be our shooter?  I mean, he was taken 33rd overall.

His college stats:  3pt% 36.8, 2pt% 41.2, ft% 81.7,

I'm not saying Carsen is better, I'm just saying, I think he was supposed to fill that spot.
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Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #212 on: October 12, 2020, 03:17:05 PM »

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Adding shooters is a priority. So how about taking a shooter with our #47 second rounder?

I'm thinking that Sam Merrill would be a good pick with #47. He has a high BBIQ and can really shoot.
That's a guy that's well taught, has 4 years of college experience and can contribute right away as a cost-controlled 3-point-specialist bench player.

Sam Merrill college career: from three 319/759 (42%), 2-pointers 396/762 (52%), free throws 448/503 (89%), 62 TS% and ASS/TO 3.6/1.6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88bglFFocFg

Isn't that why we chose Carsen Edwards, to be our shooter?  I mean, he was taken 33rd overall.

His college stats:  3pt% 36.8, 2pt% 41.2, ft% 81.7,

I'm not saying Carsen is better, I'm just saying, I think he was supposed to fill that spot.

Carsen could still work out but to beat those zones that the Celtics have so much trouble with in the playoffs you need shooters, shooters, and more shooters.
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Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #213 on: October 12, 2020, 05:19:08 PM »

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Adding shooters is a priority. So how about taking a shooter with our #47 second rounder?

I'm thinking that Sam Merrill would be a good pick with #47. He has a high BBIQ and can really shoot.
That's a guy that's well taught, has 4 years of college experience and can contribute right away as a cost-controlled 3-point-specialist bench player.

Sam Merrill college career: from three 319/759 (42%), 2-pointers 396/762 (52%), free throws 448/503 (89%), 62 TS% and ASS/TO 3.6/1.6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88bglFFocFg

Isn't that why we chose Carsen Edwards, to be our shooter?  I mean, he was taken 33rd overall.

His college stats:  3pt% 36.8, 2pt% 41.2, ft% 81.7,

I'm not saying Carsen is better, I'm just saying, I think he was supposed to fill that spot.
Sorta, but Carsen is 6 inches shorter than Merrill and a significantly worse pure shooter
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #214 on: October 12, 2020, 06:52:29 PM »

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Adding shooters is a priority. So how about taking a shooter with our #47 second rounder?

I'm thinking that Sam Merrill would be a good pick with #47. He has a high BBIQ and can really shoot.
That's a guy that's well taught, has 4 years of college experience and can contribute right away as a cost-controlled 3-point-specialist bench player.

Sam Merrill college career: from three 319/759 (42%), 2-pointers 396/762 (52%), free throws 448/503 (89%), 62 TS% and ASS/TO 3.6/1.6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88bglFFocFg

Isn't that why we chose Carsen Edwards, to be our shooter?  I mean, he was taken 33rd overall.

His college stats:  3pt% 36.8, 2pt% 41.2, ft% 81.7,

I'm not saying Carsen is better, I'm just saying, I think he was supposed to fill that spot.
Sorta, but Carsen is 6 inches shorter than Merrill and a significantly worse pure shooter

Edwards could still work out but adding more shooters is the smart thing to do.

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #215 on: October 12, 2020, 08:39:47 PM »

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My picks as of today

14. Achiuwa
26. Dotson
30. Darling
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Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #216 on: October 12, 2020, 10:18:28 PM »

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My picks as of today

14. Achiuwa
26. Dotson
30. Darling
47. Scrubb

I change my mind daily but today I have based on availablity:

14. Vassell / Nesmith
26. Bane / Saddiq Bey
30. Paul Reed / Tyler Bey
47. Prichard /M. Flynn/ Merrill / Kispert

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #217 on: October 13, 2020, 12:16:21 AM »

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My picks as of today

14. Achiuwa
26. Dotson
30. Darling
47. Scrubb

I change my mind daily but today I have based on availablity:

14. Vassell / Nesmith
26. Bane / Saddiq Bey
30. Paul Reed / Tyler Bey
47. Prichard /M. Flynn/ Merrill / Kispert
Mine similarly flips around almost daily. At the moment I want:

14. Nesmith / Lewis Jr / Terry
26. Tillman
30. Reed
47. Merrill
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #218 on: October 13, 2020, 11:14:36 AM »

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My picks as of today

14. Achiuwa
26. Dotson
30. Darling
47. Scrubb

I change my mind daily but today I have based on availablity:

14. Vassell / Nesmith
26. Bane / Saddiq Bey
30. Paul Reed / Tyler Bey
47. Prichard /M. Flynn/ Merrill / Kispert

We probably need to trade up to be able to get Vassell, but I've seen mocks with him available at 14. I expect that the trend of potential 3+D wings going higher in the draft than in the mocks will prolong though. Wouldn't be surprised at all when Avdija, Okoro, Vassell, Williams, Nesmith and S.Bey are all picked before us. I can see Okongwu or Toppin falling, but probably not outside of top 10 and I'm not sure I want either of them. Probably a lot of guards to chose from in the 14-25 area. I think it's possible that Lewis will be BPA at our spot.

As a fit the Celtics should be looking out for a PF that can guard guys like Antetokounmpo, Davis or Adebayo reasonably well. Therefore Achiuwa is very intriguing, but his offensive game is a big question mark and with Stevens' affinity with small ball I'm not sure he'd be properly utilized here.

I'm wondering whether Terry or S.Bey can become a starter without being a liability on defense. Going to see more footage of both of them. If we can't trade up and there's not a player there to my liking I'm okay with gambling on the longterm by stashing Pokusevski (he's a bit different than the Yabusele fiasco).

I've liked Tyler Bey as one of the prime wing defenders for months now and still believe he can be a reliable 3+D player, which would be good value at the end of the first round at 26. No objection to Bane as a shooter of the bench at that spot either. With Theis and Kanter (PO in the offseason) as expiring contracts we could add a 3rd string big with back-up potential in Reed (preferably) or Tillman at 30.

I'd love to get Merrill with 47. Would be great to get a sniper with a smart overall game in the second round and I'd offer him a place on the roster without question. If he'd be already picked then Pritchard becomes an option, dependent on availability and whether we have already a picked a PG earlier in the draft.


14. Vassell / Lewis / Achiuwa / Saddiq Bey / Pokusevski / Terry
26. Tyler Bey / Bane
30. Reed / Tillman
47. Merrill / Pritchard / Tillie / Joe / Petrusev

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #219 on: October 13, 2020, 01:55:59 PM »

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My picks as of today

14. Achiuwa
26. Dotson
30. Darling
47. Scrubb

I change my mind daily but today I have based on availablity:

14. Vassell / Nesmith
26. Bane / Saddiq Bey
30. Paul Reed / Tyler Bey
47. Prichard /M. Flynn/ Merrill / Kispert

We probably need to trade up to be able to get Vassell, but I've seen mocks with him available at 14. I expect that the trend of potential 3+D wings going higher in the draft than in the mocks will prolong though. Wouldn't be surprised at all when Avdija, Okoro, Vassell, Williams, Nesmith and S.Bey are all picked before us. I can see Okongwu or Toppin falling, but probably not outside of top 10 and I'm not sure I want either of them. Probably a lot of guards to chose from in the 14-25 area. I think it's possible that Lewis will be BPA at our spot.

As a fit the Celtics should be looking out for a PF that can guard guys like Antetokounmpo, Davis or Adebayo reasonably well. Therefore Achiuwa is very intriguing, but his offensive game is a big question mark and with Stevens' affinity with small ball I'm not sure he'd be properly utilized here.

I'm wondering whether Terry or S.Bey can become a starter without being a liability on defense. Going to see more footage of both of them. If we can't trade up and there's not a player there to my liking I'm okay with gambling on the longterm by stashing Pokusevski (he's a bit different than the Yabusele fiasco).

I've liked Tyler Bey as one of the prime wing defenders for months now and still believe he can be a reliable 3+D player, which would be good value at the end of the first round at 26. No objection to Bane as a shooter of the bench at that spot either. With Theis and Kanter (PO in the offseason) as expiring contracts we could add a 3rd string big with back-up potential in Reed (preferably) or Tillman at 30.

I'd love to get Merrill with 47. Would be great to get a sniper with a smart overall game in the second round and I'd offer him a place on the roster without question. If he'd be already picked then Pritchard becomes an option, dependent on availability and whether we have already a picked a PG earlier in the draft.


14. Vassell / Lewis / Achiuwa / Saddiq Bey / Pokusevski / Terry
26. Tyler Bey / Bane
30. Reed / Tillman
47. Merrill / Pritchard / Tillie / Joe / Petrusev

Vassell would be a great grab at 14 but will most likely be gone. I really like him the more I watch. Achiuwa's poor shooting worries me. Achiuwa is either an undersized center 6'9" without a crazy long TIMELORD wingspan or a power forward that can't shoot. He's 59% from the free-throw line. Paul Reed does a lot of what Achiuwa does but with maybe the 30th pick and he shoots 74% from the line. I like Bey as a hustle Danny type guy and Bane and Tillaman would both be good fits for this squad.That 47th pick should definitely be a shooter.

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #220 on: October 13, 2020, 03:52:16 PM »

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latest Bleacher Report mock has the prized Okongwu falling to us at 14.  wouldn't be the least disappointed with that.  shocked if it happened but very pleased.

Ramsey at 26 and Bolmaro at 30 are kind of meh picks I think.  Bolmaro a draft and stash target most likely.

they're thinking the much-discussed Bane, Tillman and Lewis are gone before 26. 


Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #221 on: October 13, 2020, 04:04:26 PM »

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latest Bleacher Report mock has the prized Okongwu falling to us at 14.  wouldn't be the least disappointed with that.  shocked if it happened but very pleased.

Ramsey at 26 and Bolmaro at 30 are kind of meh picks I think.  Bolmaro a draft and stash target most likely.

they're thinking the much-discussed Bane, Tillman and Lewis are gone before 26.

I know it's a reach but I'd take Bane at 14. I don't think Bane lasts past the Nets at 19. There aren't too many NBA ready players in this draft and we need guys that are ready to play. The fear would be that Bane won't translate to the NBA but from everything I've read about him he's ready and willing to be a role player at the next level.


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« Reply #222 on: October 13, 2020, 04:10:14 PM »

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A. Sherrod Blakely, NBC Sports Boston
No. 14: Aaron Nesmith, SG, Vanderbilt

No. 26: Isaiah Stewart, C, Washington

No. 30: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

Sam Vicente, The Athletic
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

No. 30: Robert Woodard, SF, Mississippi State

Omari Sankofa II, Detroit Free Press
No. 14: Precious Achiuwa, PF, Memphis

No. 26: Killian Tillie, PF, Gonzaga

No. 30: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

Jonathan Wasserman, Bleacher Report
No. 14: Jalen Smith, C, Maryland

No. 26: Jaden McDaniels, SF, Washington

No. 30: Daniel Oturu, C, Minnesota

James Ham, NBC Sports Bay Area
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Nico Mannion, PG, Arizona

No. 30: Daniel Oturu, C, Minnesota

Gary Parrish, CBS Sports
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

No. 30: Zeke Nnaji, C, Arizona

Brad Rowland, Uproxx
No. 14: Aleksej Pokusevski C, Olympiacos B

No. 26: Theo Maledon, PG, ASVEL (France)

No. 30: Isaiah Stewart, C, Washington

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #223 on: October 13, 2020, 04:12:32 PM »

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Any other draft fans from the early 2000s? Doesn't this one feel a bit more like those early 2000s drafts where it was much more of a crapshoot and you didn't really have enough info on all the prospects?

Re: Celtics 2020 Draft picks
« Reply #224 on: October 13, 2020, 04:24:02 PM »

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A. Sherrod Blakely, NBC Sports Boston
No. 14: Aaron Nesmith, SG, Vanderbilt

No. 26: Isaiah Stewart, C, Washington

No. 30: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

Sam Vicente, The Athletic
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

No. 30: Robert Woodard, SF, Mississippi State

Omari Sankofa II, Detroit Free Press
No. 14: Precious Achiuwa, PF, Memphis

No. 26: Killian Tillie, PF, Gonzaga

No. 30: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

Jonathan Wasserman, Bleacher Report
No. 14: Jalen Smith, C, Maryland

No. 26: Jaden McDaniels, SF, Washington

No. 30: Daniel Oturu, C, Minnesota

James Ham, NBC Sports Bay Area
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Nico Mannion, PG, Arizona

No. 30: Daniel Oturu, C, Minnesota

Gary Parrish, CBS Sports
No. 14: Kira Lewis Jr., PG, Alabama

No. 26: Leandro Bolmaro, SF, Barcelona B

No. 30: Zeke Nnaji, C, Arizona

Brad Rowland, Uproxx
No. 14: Aleksej Pokusevski C, Olympiacos B

No. 26: Theo Maledon, PG, ASVEL (France)

No. 30: Isaiah Stewart, C, Washington

seems Lewis and Bolmaro are popular picks for us overall.  not sure any of these experts are giving me the warm and fuzzies with what they think Danny will do