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Title: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: CelticsElite on August 09, 2018, 12:29:57 AM
Celtics' Jaylen Brown: 'We're getting to the Finals. No question'

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24325222/jaylen-brown-confident-boston-celtics-reach-nba-finals-2019-no-question


Second-year big man Daniel Theis, who missed the playoffs after knee surgery, hinted at a Finals appearance as well on Wednesday.

"I hope we play in June with this team," Theis said at a Celtics community event at their new training facility. "I think it's possible, but it's a long season. I think we're all excited for training camp and then for the first game on [Oct.] 16. ... It's going to be fun."
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: droopdog7 on August 09, 2018, 12:50:21 AM
We’re the favorites and the season would be a disappointment if they didn’t make it to the finals.

So yeah, I’m hoping Jaylen is right.
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Post by: liam on August 09, 2018, 01:18:11 AM
I love  Jaylen Brown!
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Post by: kraidstar on August 09, 2018, 01:33:48 AM
It is confidence? Arrogance?

I dunno, but I love it.
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Post by: GreenEnvy on August 09, 2018, 05:32:55 AM
He’s right. It’s our conference to lose.

I can honestly say Finals or bust, the bar is set.
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Post by: Big333223 on August 09, 2018, 06:37:41 AM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.
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Post by: saltlover on August 09, 2018, 06:41:48 AM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.

Heck, your profile signature goes a step further.
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Post by: Big333223 on August 09, 2018, 07:52:26 AM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.

Heck, your profile signature goes a step further.

I'm trying to figure out where I can legally bet on the C's to win it all this season without having to go to New Jersey.
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Post by: BudweiserCeltic on August 09, 2018, 09:22:03 AM
Never been a fan of these proclamations.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: saltlover on August 09, 2018, 09:23:55 AM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.

Heck, your profile signature goes a step further.

I'm trying to figure out where I can legally bet on the C's to win it all this season without having to go to New Jersey.

Delaware, but that’s probably not much better for you.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: mef730 on August 09, 2018, 09:31:16 AM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.

Heck, your profile signature goes a step further.

I'm trying to figure out where I can legally bet on the C's to win it all this season without having to go to New Jersey.

Delaware, but that’s probably not much better for you.

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24324260/buffalo-wild-wings-exploring-sports-betting-restaurants

"I'll have an order of buffalo wings and the Cs to win it all, please."

Mike
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Post by: Donoghus on August 09, 2018, 09:46:55 AM
He’s not wrong.

Health would be the only issue.
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Post by: Birdman on August 09, 2018, 10:32:22 AM
He’s not wrong.

Health would be the only issue.
Agree
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Post by: smokeablount on August 09, 2018, 11:09:43 AM
He’s not wrong.

Health would be the only issue.

Health and/or Kawhi.  Tho I expect us in the finals.
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Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on August 09, 2018, 12:01:43 PM
He’s not wrong.

Health would be the only issue.

Health and/or Kawhi.  Tho I expect us in the finals.

Even after adding Kawhi, the Raptors have fewer weapons than the Cs, IMO. I expect Boston to win the East in the regular season and in the postseason.
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Post by: Tr1boy on August 09, 2018, 12:30:38 PM
*facepalm*

He better single handedly carry the team to a win - ecf game 7

Jaylen let your play do the speaking
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Big333223 on August 09, 2018, 12:45:16 PM
I agree with him.

I can't wait to listen to this podcast.

Heck, your profile signature goes a step further.

I'm trying to figure out where I can legally bet on the C's to win it all this season without having to go to New Jersey.

Delaware, but that’s probably not much better for you.

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24324260/buffalo-wild-wings-exploring-sports-betting-restaurants

"I'll have an order of buffalo wings and the Cs to win it all, please."

Mike

I like it. But I want to get in there while the odds are still good. If they come out of the box hot, those odds are going to change.
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Post by: smokeablount on August 09, 2018, 01:03:40 PM
He’s not wrong.

Health would be the only issue.

Health and/or Kawhi.  Tho I expect us in the finals.

Even after adding Kawhi, the Raptors have fewer weapons than the Cs, IMO. I expect Boston to win the East in the regular season and in the postseason.

Yes, and the Spurs with Kawhi had fewer weapons than all the other top teams, yet they consistently won 55-60 games.  I mean, when Zaza injured him that Spurs team with a slumping Aldridge could've taken game 1 from Durant/Curry/Klay/Dray, up 22+ points.

Kawhi is good enough that he is a system in and of himself (on both sides of the ball) and he gives most well constructed teams a chance to beat most other teams.  I think Brad and yes our starting 5 is the reason we beat them, but I wouldn't rule him/them out.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: gift on August 09, 2018, 04:17:37 PM
*facepalm*

He better single handedly carry the team to a win - ecf game 7

Jaylen let your play do the speaking

why? what if the team was so good that he didn't need to? wouldn't that prove his point?
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: action781 on August 09, 2018, 04:39:26 PM
"No question"?

If Lebron said this last February, cbers would be tearing him apart for being over-confident.  Even though he had been to 7 straight and he eventually did get there.

Yet this talk is being somewhat celebrated here (aside from a few) from a guy who has never been to a finals.

Interesting.
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Post by: TomHeinsohn on August 09, 2018, 05:16:02 PM
"No question"?

If Lebron said this last February, cbers would be tearing him apart for being over-confident.  Even though he had been to 7 straight and he eventually did get there.

Yet this talk is being somewhat celebrated here (aside from a few) from a guy who has never been to a finals.

Interesting.

It's almost as if we're fans of one guy and not the other
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Post by: CelticSooner on August 09, 2018, 05:33:59 PM
"No question"?

If Lebron said this last February, cbers would be tearing him apart for being over-confident.  Even though he had been to 7 straight and he eventually did get there.

Yet this talk is being somewhat celebrated here (aside from a few) from a guy who has never been to a finals.

Interesting.

LeBron says things like this all the time. Just this past March: ‘If I come into your building for a Game 1, I can be very challenging’

He was right to be confident then and many people agreed with him, myself included. I agree with JB's answer as well.
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Post by: Neurotic Guy on August 09, 2018, 05:43:08 PM
*facepalm*

He better single handedly carry the team to a win - ecf game 7

Jaylen let your play do the speaking

Yes!  Complete jinx thread. Hate it. 

But I do love the Jays.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 09, 2018, 06:56:27 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: gouki88 on August 09, 2018, 07:50:25 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: nickagneta on August 09, 2018, 07:57:26 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 09, 2018, 08:34:51 PM
No where in that quote did Brown say, I am the alpha dog and I am going to lead our team in scoring and lead the team to the finals.  He said he expects the team to be in the finals.  I don't think that is cocky or anything.  Boston should have the best team in the East this year.  Why shouldn't we be in the finals?

To those who were complaining about an off game 7 performance by Brown - Brown averaged 18ppg / shot 39.3% from 3 in 32mpg for 18 playoff games in the playoffs.  He was injured for a few of those games and managed to play through it showing a lot of toughness.  He was HUGE in the playoffs.   Plus, he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  That seems pretty clutch to me.
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Post by: Ogaju on August 09, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
"No question"?

If Lebron said this last February, cbers would be tearing him apart for being over-confident.  Even though he had been to 7 straight and he eventually did get there.

Yet this talk is being somewhat celebrated here (aside from a few) from a guy who has never been to a finals.

Interesting.

It's almost as if we're fans of one guy and not the other

lol TP
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Post by: Celtics17 on August 09, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
Brown looked like a star in the Eastern Conference Finals and if it hadnt been for injury  he may have looked like out best player in the playoffs period. The guy is going to put it all together this season and send notice to the league.

I remember at the beginning of the season a debate on here as to wether JB had 'elite' jumping ability or not, lol!
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Post by: Csfan1984 on August 09, 2018, 10:17:12 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 09, 2018, 10:21:33 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on August 09, 2018, 10:24:54 PM
Big fan of Jaylen.  He's shown a nice balance of confidence, humility, and respect.  And he's more than proven himself both on and off the court already.   
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Post by: nickagneta on August 09, 2018, 10:38:24 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6
You must have missed the part where I said only he and Terry showed up in an elimination game. If anyone else showed up, there wouldn't have been a need for game 7.

You also must have missed the stats posted above. Brown was the Cs leading scorer in the ECF. He also was just tenths of a point from leading the team in scoring for the playoffs. If he fidn't get hurt he might have averaged over 20 PPG in the playoffs while being 2nd on the team in 3 point shooting.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 09, 2018, 11:31:31 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6
You must have missed the part where I said only he and Terry showed up in an elimination game. If anyone else showed up, there wouldn't have been a need for game 7.

You also must have missed the stats posted above. Brown was the Cs leading scorer in the ECF. He also was just tenths of a point from leading the team in scoring for the playoffs. If he fidn't get hurt he might have averaged over 20 PPG in the playoffs while being 2nd on the team in 3 point shooting.
His ego is what got hurt
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 09, 2018, 11:35:11 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 10, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
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Post by: Csfan1984 on August 10, 2018, 05:49:57 AM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Surferdad on August 10, 2018, 07:29:24 AM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
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Post by: smokeablount on August 10, 2018, 11:53:03 AM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.

I get what you're saying, but remember back to Jaylen's introductory press conference or call as a Celtic, when he said he was 'ready to rip someone's head off' and he hadn't played a minute in the NBA yet.  Now look where he is after 2 seasons, looking like a top 20 asset in the NBA.

He might have this aggressive attitude that sounds cocky, but it also might fuel improvement.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Celtics17 on August 10, 2018, 01:51:01 PM
Wasnt Bird a bit cocky?  I know MJ was as was Kobe. I would say Russ was too and I know Chamberlain was. If being cocky is something we are not looking for in our players then what are we looking for?

I would much rather have a guy with JB's attitude then a meek, mild mannered 'nice guy' who says something like "well we should make the finals if all goes right, health, home court, proper seeding, and blah blah blah'.

I'm glad JB is this confident. Now go out and back it up JB like we know you can!
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Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on August 11, 2018, 01:20:20 PM
I love  Jaylen Brown!

I LOVE THEIS THEIS BABY!

(https://imgur.com/O39x7I3)
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: BitterJim on August 11, 2018, 04:57:53 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?

With the hamstring injury, no less. He was great in the entire series, acting like his one bad game defines the series is just stupid.

There's absolutely no chance that we even play game 7 without Jaylen
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 07:33:44 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: CelticD on August 11, 2018, 07:33:55 PM
The Celtics were a quarter and a half away from the Finals last year. LeBron is out the East, and the Celtics are running it back with 2 All-Stars.

I think the pressure is good for them. Regardless of whether or not Brown made these comments, the expectation is that the Celtics will get to the Finals. Anything less than that is a failed season. All he did was cement that mentality.

I don't think the Celtics would be considered an underdog in any EC series come playoff time, so a good way to keep yourself motivated would be proclaim high expectations, and if you can't rise to the occasion the public will hold you accountable.

It backfired on the Wizards, but hopefully it works for the C's.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: BitterJim on August 11, 2018, 07:37:42 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 07:38:23 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?

With the hamstring injury, no less. He was great in the entire series, acting like his one bad game defines the series is just stupid.

There's absolutely no chance that we even play game 7 without Jaylen

I didn't say defines a series I said he didn't back up his words that playoffs. It will be on other guys to get the job done. Based on what I have seen of Brown this off season as well he doesn't look the leader part.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 07:42:04 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 07:52:06 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 08:01:17 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should let us all know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 08:10:42 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 08:39:30 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 08:42:47 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)

Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)
Lol please we are giving him a pass as a young player? Like we gave Embid a pass? If you talk you best come out on top
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 09:05:24 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 09:07:28 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)
Lol please we are giving him a pass as a young player? Like we gave Embid a pass? If you talk you best come out on top

Again you are shifting the goal posts.  When was anyone saying anything about Embiid?  The comments critical of your statements were all about Brown.  No one is giving Brown a pass, he made mistakes in the playoffs, but he and Tatum were our best players. 

AGAIN, what big statement did Jaylen make that he didn't back up?? 
Leading scorer for us in the ECF, played through a tough hamstring injury.  2nd leading scorer in the playoffs for us just barely behind Tatum.  Youngest player with a 30 point game in the playoffs ever for the C's.  He did it twice.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 09:14:25 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 09:16:07 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Sorry, you are the one that made these statements.  No one else is saying this about Brown.  It isn't on us to prove your umm 'theory', it is on you. 

Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:20:42 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)
Lol please we are giving him a pass as a young player? Like we gave Embid a pass? If you talk you best come out on top

Again you are shifting the goal posts.  When was anyone saying anything about Embiid?  The comments critical of your statements were all about Brown.  No one is giving Brown a pass, he made mistakes in the playoffs, but he and Tatum were our best players. 

AGAIN, what big statement did Jaylen make that he didn't back up?? 
Leading scorer for us in the ECF, played through a tough hamstring injury.  2nd leading scorer in the playoffs for us just barely behind Tatum.  Youngest player with a 30 point game in the playoffs ever for the C's.  He did it twice.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)
He made multiple statments that the issue here. They were dumb and this one is too because he isn't the leader of this team. And you keep pointing out leading in scoring, news flash he didn't even score that much in comparison to the elite players in the postseason. That again is the point, Brown isn't the one to talk. He isn't elite he isn't the best player on the team. He is like 4th or 5th best and should shut his mouth till he proves other wise.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:22:22 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:23:13 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Sorry, you are the one that made these statements.  No one else is saying this about Brown.  It isn't on us to prove your umm 'theory', it is on you.
Watch his post game interviews last playoffs
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: blink on August 11, 2018, 09:26:07 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)
Lol please we are giving him a pass as a young player? Like we gave Embid a pass? If you talk you best come out on top

Again you are shifting the goal posts.  When was anyone saying anything about Embiid?  The comments critical of your statements were all about Brown.  No one is giving Brown a pass, he made mistakes in the playoffs, but he and Tatum were our best players. 

AGAIN, what big statement did Jaylen make that he didn't back up?? 
Leading scorer for us in the ECF, played through a tough hamstring injury.  2nd leading scorer in the playoffs for us just barely behind Tatum.  Youngest player with a 30 point game in the playoffs ever for the C's.  He did it twice.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)
He made multiple statments that the issue here. They were dumb and this one is too because he isn't the leader of this team. And you keep pointing out leading in scoring, news flash he didn't even score that much in comparison to the elite players in the postseason. That again is the point, Brown isn't the one to talk. He isn't elite he isn't the best player on the team. He is like 4th or 5th best and should shut his mouth till he proves other wise.

What statements?  For the last time, what did Jaylen say last year in the playoffs that he didn't back up with his play?   

When did I ever say he was better than all the leading 'elite' players in the NBA?  I never said that.  Again you are shifting the goal posts and avoiding supporting your point.  I don't think anyone here believes Brown is at an 'elite' level yet, and NO ONE said that.

Look I am done with this back and forth, you can go back to thinking Jaylen should "shut his mouth' for imaginary things that he said last year that you can't remember....and I will go back to looking forward to next year. lol.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: nickagneta on August 11, 2018, 09:31:33 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  can you give us a quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comments from Jaylen last year.
Don't you watch post game interviews? That's what I am talking about where he talked about handling business and playing better and sucking the very next game.

I'm not making stuff up or hating on Brown. Just point out last year he talked and didn't back it up. If the whole forum wants to get upset about that don't blame me blame Brown not coming through because I'm calling him out on talk. Talk means nothing just ask Embid right..

Look if you don't have something concrete you can point to about this it isn't my fault.  I am not the one making the claims that Jaylen was talking and not backing it up. 

When you don't at least have a quote or something then this whole thing just seems like subjective opinion.  I have posted a ton of stats explaining that Jaylen was excellent in the playoffs.  He played great, it is a fact. 

I personally don't watch every post game interview because I can't.  So if he said something really cocky that he didn't back up with his play then you should all let us know.

But if you want to want to hang all this on a super generic 'we have to handle our business better' comment that literally EVERY guy on the team would make, that is really weak.
How the hell am I supposed to search post game links in a timely fashion. Id spend hours to get it. No thanks.

And you have to be kidding me with that cop-out that everyone is guilty of generic quotes. If it was generic I wouldn't be complaining nor is his current comments generic

It isn't hard to search the web to support your argument...if it is true.  If you are spouting off a lot of opinion, yeah it might be harder to make your point.

How about this?  A lot of great articles on how well Brown played in the 2018 playoffs.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/ (https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-04-18-jaylen-brown-has-historic-playoff-performance/)

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs (https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/20/17262160/the-playoff-growth-of-jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-2018-nba-playoffs)

https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/ (https://247sports.com/college/california/Article/Bears-in-the-Big-Leagues-Jaylen-Brown-continues-to-shine-in-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-118278153/)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history (https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/04/24/jaylen-brown-could-join-an-exclusive-list-in-celtics-history)

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs (http://basketballsocietyonline.com/jaylen-brown-star-celtics-playoffs)
Lol please we are giving him a pass as a young player? Like we gave Embid a pass? If you talk you best come out on top

Again you are shifting the goal posts.  When was anyone saying anything about Embiid?  The comments critical of your statements were all about Brown.  No one is giving Brown a pass, he made mistakes in the playoffs, but he and Tatum were our best players. 

AGAIN, what big statement did Jaylen make that he didn't back up?? 
Leading scorer for us in the ECF, played through a tough hamstring injury.  2nd leading scorer in the playoffs for us just barely behind Tatum.  Youngest player with a 30 point game in the playoffs ever for the C's.  He did it twice.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)
He made multiple statments that the issue here. They were dumb and this one is too because he isn't the leader of this team. And you keep pointing out leading in scoring, news flash he didn't even score that much in comparison to the elite players in the postseason. That again is the point, Brown isn't the one to talk. He isn't elite he isn't the best player on the team. He is like 4th or 5th best and should shut his mouth till he proves other wise.

What statements?  For the last time, what did Jaylen say last year in the playoffs that he didn't back up with his play?   

When did I ever say he was better than all the leading 'elite' players in the NBA?  I never said that.  Again you are shifting the goal posts and avoiding supporting your point.  I don't think anyone here believes Brown is at an 'elite' level yet, and NO ONE said that.

Look I am done with this back and forth, you can go back to thinking Jaylen should "shut his mouth' for imaginary things that he said last year that you can't remember....and I will go back to looking forward to next year. lol.
I told you watch the post games
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:41:34 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: nickagneta on August 11, 2018, 09:53:29 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
So you are finally admitting he didn't say anything more than usual stuff about playing hard and doing what he could and you're mad that he had a bad game 7. Okay got it.

No more to see here. We got the whole story now.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 09:57:13 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
So you are finally admitting he didn't say anything more than usual stuff about playing hard and doing what he could and you're mad that he had a bad game 7. Okay got it.

No more to see here. We got the whole story now.
Lol no nice try. It's one thing to say, "we have to be better" it's another saying "we will be better". Didn't reports also have  statement's saying Brown was claiming to want the Cavs. This guy isn't the guy to be making guarantees or promises
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: nickagneta on August 11, 2018, 09:59:52 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
So you are finally admitting he didn't say anything more than usual stuff about playing hard and doing what he could and you're mad that he had a bad game 7. Okay got it.

No more to see here. We got the whole story now.
Lol no nice try. It's one thing to say, "we have to be better" it's another saying "we will be better". Didn't reports also have  statement's saying Brown was claiming to want the Cavs. This guy isn't the guy to be making guarantees or promises
Except he didn't do any of that. You're just making stuff up.
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Csfan1984 on August 11, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
So you are finally admitting he didn't say anything more than usual stuff about playing hard and doing what he could and you're mad that he had a bad game 7. Okay got it.

No more to see here. We got the whole story now.
Lol no nice try. It's one thing to say, "we have to be better" it's another saying "we will be better". Didn't reports also have  statement's saying Brown was claiming to want the Cavs. This guy isn't the guy to be making guarantees or promises
Except he didn't do any of that. You're just making stuff up.
Nope
Title: Re: Brown: "Celtics will make the 2019 finals. No question.”
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2018, 03:37:35 AM
I wouldn't rely on Brown to back up his words after game 7 last playoffs. It's going to be on others to get the job done
I forgot that 1 game defined a player.

JB dropped 27 in game 6 of that series, which was an elimination game too.
Yeah, Rozier and Brown were the only two players that showed up in that game 6. If just one other guy showed up it would have been Celtics in 6.
Really one game? Let's not forget a few games he did not perform. And game 7 is a lot bigger than game 6

he averaged 19.7 ppg in the eastern conf. finals which lead the team.  he played great def during the whole playoffs.  How is that not performing?  what do you really expect from him?
How about pass the ball to Tatum in game 7

so at first you said he was a no show and wasn't clutch, now you say he is a ball hog and didn't pass the ball to tatum?  So all I get at this point is you don't really like our leading scorer from the ECF from last year.

look Brown played better in last years playoffs than anyone had a right to expect.  his ceiling might even be higher than Tatum's as a two way player.  He isn't a selfish player.  All of this is just non-sense.  Why don't you just sit back and enjoy our two rising stars.  I know I will.
When did I say that?

I like Brown what I am saying is he isn't the guy to back up a guarantee. He talked last year a few times before games in which he didn't play well in. In game 7 he dropped the ball on both sides of the court. I could careless about just scoring. It's talking when you aren't known for backing things up. I don't like it.
So, Brown is what he is, and will never improve?  Didn't he take a leap from rookie to soph season?  I think it probable that Jaylen is thinking very hard about his mistakes in the ECF and is dedicated to being better.  His proclamation about the Finals is perfectly fine in a league built on confidence.  This could be his way to put pressure on himself to improve.  If there's anything I've learned about Brown is that he wants to be better, he knows he has the talent, and will put in the work required.
Again... Brown talked last year and things didn't go too well.

In what world is playing 7 games in the ECF without Kyrie and Hayward "things didn't go well"?
Based on his words no they didn't

what words are you talking about?  what things didn't go well?

can you give us a direct quote, a link or something supporting your view that Brown promised more than he delivered?  Seriously, because I don't remember a 'we are going to the finals' or 'we are taking down the warriors' comment from 2nd year Jaylen last year. 

Previously in this thread you also said 'Let's not forget a few games he did not perform'.  Can you tell us what games those are or what that even means??  Because I watched every playoff game and it certainly seemed like Brown was our most or 2nd most consistent player in the playoffs.
Best watch them again or at the very least check the box scores

You mean like the box scores where Brown lead our team in scoring in the ECF?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3917376/jaylen-brown)

yeah I thought so...
Like that field goal % and the free throws and getting owned by Korver

That wasn't what you were talking about.  You said Jaylen was making statements that he couldn't back up.  That was your WHOLE unsupported argument.  What about that?
You are completely shifting the goal posts.

I agree for one short stretch Korver played good D on brown and SO WHAT?
So what?! What I have been saying is that he isn't the man and  he shouldnt be makein checks he can't cash based on what happened last year. I'm not moving the goal post you guys are.

Then please tell us all what statement Brown made and how he didn't live up to it?  Your arguments are nonsense. 

wth 'makein checks he can't cash'? lol...really?
Watch the post game interviews
I did. I watched just about every post game. Switched it immediately to the local channel to catch commentary and post game press conferences. Brown never said anything more than the usual platitudes about needing to come out aggressive, and bring it and play well and stuff like that. He never made a promise or guarantee of anything.

You know for a guy that was craving for the Celtics to blow it up and draft young guys for years on this site, I find it peculiar that when you finally have an outstanding young guy, you're making stuff up to take him down
Sure now it's the usual statements... hello that's still talk. When he says he is going to play better and show up and he doesn't that is not backing up his words!

And I don't advocate blowing anything up unless things are hopeless. Titles are the goal
So you are finally admitting he didn't say anything more than usual stuff about playing hard and doing what he could and you're mad that he had a bad game 7. Okay got it.

No more to see here. We got the whole story now.
Lol no nice try. It's one thing to say, "we have to be better" it's another saying "we will be better". Didn't reports also have  statement's saying Brown was claiming to want the Cavs. This guy isn't the guy to be making guarantees or promises
Except he didn't do any of that. You're just making stuff up.
Nope
Welp