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Would you sign Kemba Walker to the max (4/140M; 32.7M 1st Year)

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Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #150 on: June 26, 2019, 09:51:58 AM »

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I like Kemba.  He's a dominating scorer and from what I can tell seems to be a class act who is loved by his teammates.   If we do sign him, then I will gladly support that team.

That said, I personally would rather go the slightly cheaper route of stealing Brogdon from the Bucks.

Not only because I think Brogdon is an excellent fit for this team's offense (he's an elite shooter and can move smoothly between ball-handler and wing roles, unlike Terry who struggled in the latter) and not only because he has excellent size and is good defender.   Because also if we can get him for say, ~25M, then (after rescinding Rozier's cap hold) we'd have 8-ish million available to put towards a big man.   We might be able to land someone like Dedmon for that.   We'd then have the Room Exception (4.7M) to land one more big man as well.

Kemba, by virtue of his elite scoring is at this moment probably more valuable than Brogdon.

But for this roster, I think "Brogdon+mid-level big man" is more valuable and a better route.

I also like that route better than paying a lot for a Vucevic or Adams just because while I like those two guys, I think you can get 70% of their value for a fraction of their cost from a guy like a Dedmon or JaMychal Green caliber player.

I suspect that Kemba, Vucevic, Adams and other similar 'mid-tier' free agents are going to wait until the 'big fish' free agents (Kawhi, KD, etc.) have found their homes.    I think that means that if we throw an aggressive offer sheet at Brogdon right at the start of free agency, we should know whether the Bucks will match (releasing our cap hold) before all the next level FAs are off the market because the Bucks would have only 2 days to match or decline.
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Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #151 on: June 26, 2019, 09:52:42 AM »

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Sign Kemba with all our max money?  Silly season is in full effect ::)
Who do you want?

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #152 on: June 26, 2019, 09:57:36 AM »

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Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #153 on: June 26, 2019, 09:59:42 AM »

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Plan A Kemba
Plan B Brogdan

But Boston is going to have to really over pay for Brogdan to get him away from the Bucks.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #154 on: June 26, 2019, 10:00:11 AM »

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Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #155 on: June 26, 2019, 10:02:53 AM »

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Plan A Kemba
Plan B Brogdan

But Boston is going to have to really over pay for Brogdan to get him away from the Bucks.

Brogdan doesn't really fit unless you trade Brown or Smart.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #156 on: June 26, 2019, 10:04:59 AM »

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I'm skeptical a mid level big man is worth the difference between Brogdon/Kemba, but I understand that line of thought.

One thing to keep in mind that the Celtics aren't walking into grocery store, FAs have to be interested in coming here. I wonder how many of the guys we discuss haven't shown much interest.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #157 on: June 26, 2019, 10:07:11 AM »

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Let's not do something silly and start a new thread that the C's are at front of the line for Kemba.
Let Woj drop the bomb before opening a new thread or just adding an edit to this one.
I for one of many think Kemba will sign here and then we may trade one of our wings (ahem, Jaylen) and a pick for a quality big that may surprise people.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #158 on: June 26, 2019, 10:09:16 AM »

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Danny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #159 on: June 26, 2019, 10:09:40 AM »

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I'm sure they will explore trading Jaylen given that he's coming up for a new contract. I don't really see a trade were the C's get back enough, but who knows.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #160 on: June 26, 2019, 10:12:03 AM »

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Celtics now "at the front of the line" for Kemba
https://985thesportshub.com/2019/06/26/kemba-walker-nba-free-agency-celtics-front-line/
Certainly lots of smoke
Oh we're hard selling Kemba on Boston. Front of the line to me means we're aggressively courting him as our priority, not that we're the likely landing spot.

The question is what does he want, because he clearly has multiple max 4 year deals on the table. Dallas, Boston, and probably two or three others at least.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #161 on: June 26, 2019, 10:20:35 AM »

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Let's not do something silly and start a new thread that the C's are at front of the line for Kemba.
Let Woj drop the bomb before opening a new thread or just adding an edit to this one.
I for one of many think Kemba will sign here and then we may trade one of our wings (ahem, Jaylen) and a pick for a quality big that may surprise people.

That's the way I'm leaning as well. Myles Turner perhaps?

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #162 on: June 26, 2019, 10:22:27 AM »

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Celtics now "at the front of the line" for Kemba
https://985thesportshub.com/2019/06/26/kemba-walker-nba-free-agency-celtics-front-line/
Certainly lots of smoke
Oh we're hard selling Kemba on Boston. Front of the line to me means we're aggressively courting him as our priority, not that we're the likely landing spot.

The question is what does he want, because he clearly has multiple max 4 year deals on the table. Dallas, Boston, and probably two or three others at least.

It sounds like Dallas is really in on Pat Beverly, which helps us our chances of Kemba
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2019/06/25/mavericks-free-agency-update-patrick-beverley-much-play-nikola-vucevic-not

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #163 on: June 26, 2019, 10:22:46 AM »

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Danny is not just going to add Kemba and no frontline guy. He will get them both somehow.

Exactly, which I why I'm in favor of signing Kemba.  Ainge wont make the signing without a solid plan for the front court.

Re: Kemba Walker/Celtics free agency rumor(merged).
« Reply #164 on: June 26, 2019, 10:23:26 AM »

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Let's not do something silly and start a new thread that the C's are at front of the line for Kemba.
Let Woj drop the bomb before opening a new thread or just adding an edit to this one.
I for one of many think Kemba will sign here and then we may trade one of our wings (ahem, Jaylen) and a pick for a quality big that may surprise people.

That's what I think too. In addition to targeting Kemba, I think Danny is going to address center by trading one of our many wings.