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What is the price for Deandre Ayton
« on: June 02, 2023, 07:51:23 AM »

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Ayton's stock seems to have taken quite a hit, and for good reason. But he does seem like a prime "change of scenery" kind of player.

As much as I love Rob, he can't be trusted to be healthy when it counts. Or even when it doesn't count.

I don't know what the cost for Ayton would be at this point but Brogdon & Timelord works for salary purposes and would give Boston a more durable paint presence, real size, some scoring around the rim, and someone who has shown in the past he can be a game changer on defense. 
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Re: What is the price for Deandre Ayton
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2023, 08:04:57 AM »

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If I'm the Suns, I do that deal right away. For the C's, it's a bad deal. There's a reason why Ayton was a "safe pick".

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2023, 08:25:02 AM »

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Does Brogdon and Gallo work?

Keep Timelord to be Ayton's backup. A 1-2 punch at center.

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2023, 08:37:32 AM »

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I think we have to get younger. I would go Brogdon and Al for Ayton and bench pieces. Keep Rob as a 20 mpg backup.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2023, 08:50:49 AM »

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If they want Timelord and/or White, forget it. I know Timelord has his injury history, but Ayton has also had a poor history of being engaged too. It's literally a big reason Phoenix has wanted him gone and Monty hated him. Maybe a "change of scenery" helps but what if it doesn't? Then you're stuck with the same problem, except Ayton has 3 more years at 30M+ AAV.
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Re: What is the price for Deandre Ayton
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 10:10:58 AM »

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There's a reason the Suns want to dump Ayton. He is soft and shrinks under the bright lights.

Not the kind of guy we need on a team with mental toughness issues.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 12:27:40 PM »

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There's a reason the Suns want to dump Ayton. He is soft and shrinks under the bright lights.

Not the kind of guy we need on a team with mental toughness issues.
They want to (have to?) dump him because the relationship has totally dissolved. How much responsibility Ayton has for that relationship being what it is is an open question. But the talent is there, he's still young but also has Finals experience.

Maybe his stock is low enough that Phoenix would take Brogdon and some depth. Brogdon + Muscala + Pritchard.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2023, 12:31:00 PM »

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Re: What is the price for Deandre Ayton
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2023, 12:38:18 PM »

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Is Ayton even good? Because I don't think so. Isn't a good shooter, doesn't get to the FT line, not a great rim protector or switch defender. he just doesn't do a lot you actually want a center to do.

Guy just got benched in Phoenix in the second round for some 7 foot stiff I'd never even heard of before.

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2023, 12:42:14 PM »

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I think we have to get younger. I would go Brogdon and Al for Ayton and bench pieces. Keep Rob as a 20 mpg backup.

This and the one above (Brogdon + Gallinari) are the deals that came to mind for me.  I think Brogdon is actually a really good fit for them.  They could move Booker to SF but their core line up could be (with the Horford version):

Paul
Brogdon
Booker
Durant
Horford

Or with Jock Landale as their C if they would take the Gallinari version.  I would far rather keep Horford but I think PHO is going to want plenty for Ayton.  This is a whole new team now with Durant and a chance for a fresh start for Ayton.

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2023, 12:43:47 PM »

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Is Ayton even good? Because I don't think so. Isn't a good shooter, doesn't get to the FT line, not a great rim protector or switch defender. he just doesn't do a lot you actually want a center to do.

Guy just got benched in Phoenix in the second round for some 7 foot stiff I'd never even heard of before.
He's been an automatic 17-10 on 60% shooting since he's been in the league and during the Suns Finals run he was a pivotal defensive piece for them.

But, again, the idea that bringing him in would help the team is predicated on him being someone who will play better once he gets out of a situation that is obviously sour on both sides.
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Re: What is the price for Deandre Ayton
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2023, 12:58:18 PM »

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Is Ayton even good? Because I don't think so. Isn't a good shooter, doesn't get to the FT line, not a great rim protector or switch defender. he just doesn't do a lot you actually want a center to do.

Guy just got benched in Phoenix in the second round for some 7 foot stiff I'd never even heard of before.

Agree 100%. He looks to me like Greg Monroe 2.0, or Jaleel Okafor. Too slow to compete in the modern NBA. Doesn't pass. No feel for the game. Gets rebounds and points due to sheer size - not talent, competitiveness, or BBIQ. He doesn't play team ball. Doesn't make plays. He is just.... there.

Once his albatross contract is up he'll be making closer to MLE money than what he's making right now. And even then, I'm not sure I'd want him on my team.

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2023, 01:27:11 PM »

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I'd rather have Brogdon straight up.  Ayton is a salary cap clogging loser, no thanks

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2023, 01:28:41 PM »

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Is Ayton even good? Because I don't think so. Isn't a good shooter, doesn't get to the FT line, not a great rim protector or switch defender. he just doesn't do a lot you actually want a center to do.

Guy just got benched in Phoenix in the second round for some 7 foot stiff I'd never even heard of before.

Agree 100%. He looks to me like Greg Monroe 2.0, or Jaleel Okafor. Too slow to compete in the modern NBA. Doesn't pass. No feel for the game. Gets rebounds and points due to sheer size - not talent, competitiveness, or BBIQ. He doesn't play team ball. Doesn't make plays. He is just.... there.

Once his albatross contract is up he'll be making closer to MLE money than what he's making right now. And even then, I'm not sure I'd want him on my team.

He feels like the kind of guy Boston fans would end up eating alive.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2023, 02:07:48 PM »

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I would go Brogdon and Al for Ayton and bench pieces

If the Suns did this I would jump on it.   The downside is you're losing two steady leaders for our team.   Brown and Brogdon are good friends.   But Malcolm is oft injured and and Al is getting old