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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2023, 08:36:35 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2023, 08:51:00 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2023, 09:06:55 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.
They can trade their 2027 1st round pick.  They've already traded their 2029 1st round pick.

Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2023, 09:11:18 PM »

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If they trade Doncic, I think they will make the team take on Hardaway and Bertans as that would clear their cap a bit more.

I proposed this the other day.

Doncic, Hardaway, Bertans

for

Brown, White, Rob, Pritchard, Gallinari, Muscala, 24 1st, 26 1st, 28 1st, swaps in 25 and 27

So post-trade Boston would be (re-signing Grant)

Starters - Smart, Doncic, Tatum, Grant, Horford
Bench - Brogdon, Hardaway, Bertans, Kornet, Hauser, Champagnie
Open Spots - 4

That would be an interesting team. Its success would depend on how well Doncic and Tatum could get along. Given Doncic's ceiling, I'd probably do that, but it is a lot to give up and the team would need to do very well in free agency to make it fully work.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2023, 09:11:54 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.
They can trade their 2027 1st round pick.  They've already traded their 2029 1st round pick.

Unless it’s a trade for a superstar, Dallas can’t touch that pick.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2023, 10:12:43 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2023, 10:47:51 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas. 

Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2023, 11:01:37 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas.

Dallas is in this mess because the Knicks blatantly tampered for Brunson.  That cost the Knicks all of a 2025 draft pick — Dallas’ penalty shouldn’t even be that much.

Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2023, 11:10:27 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas.

Dallas is in this mess because the Knicks blatantly tampered for Brunson.  That cost the Knicks all of a 2025 draft pick — Dallas’ penalty shouldn’t even be that much.

Brunson was an UFA. How was there tampering? Seems like Dallas is in this mess because they didn’t lock Jalen up when they had the chance.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2023, 11:12:06 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas.

I’m not a fan of tanking per se, but why wouldn’t they - and their fans - want to lose those games and miss the play-in?

They would have to win 2 road games just to play the top seed. At the expense of a top-10 pick. This is a team that was playing .367% ball since reconstructing their roster.

If Celtics were in this scenario, I’d much rather they tank than give up their pick to play an extra game or two (or even a series).
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2023, 11:33:48 PM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas.

I’m not a fan of tanking per se, but why wouldn’t they - and their fans - want to lose those games and miss the play-in?

They would have to win 2 road games just to play the top seed. At the expense of a top-10 pick. This is a team that was playing .367% ball since reconstructing their roster.

If Celtics were in this scenario, I’d much rather they tank than give up their pick to play an extra game or two (or even a series).

The Mavs made it to the WCF last year. I’d imagine the players and the fans would like the team to be in the postseason. Also, the Nuggets have not been playing very well lately. I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost first round.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2023, 12:02:53 AM »

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The Mavs didn't just tank the last 2 games, they just made the last 2 games a super obvious tank.  Dallas was 31-26 at one point this year.  That means they closed the season at 7-18 and were just 2-9 in their last 11.  They've been tanking for awhile.
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Re: Rumor: Mavs Fear Doncic Trade Request
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2023, 12:26:34 AM »

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This offseason and next season are big for the Mavs. I'm sure Doncic loves it in Dallas, but if things go sour again then that's all it can take for him to potentially reconsider staying.

They'll probably retain Kyrie, but they need to do a lot of work to revamp/add to the bench.

I don’t think people understand how bad of a situation the Dallas Mavericks are in for the foreseeable future.

They don’t have room for a max free agent & they still have to re-sign Dwight Powell, Christin Woods & Kyrie Irving.

If Irving walks in free agency (again), it would be devastating for the Mavs.
Yeah, they have so much money tied up in the likes of Hardaway Jr & Bertans, it's a bad situation indeed

I forgot, it actually gets worse.

Dallas will lose their upcoming pick to New York if it falls beyond 1-10. If it doesn’t, Dallas can’t trade a 1st round pick until it coveys to the Knicks or 2025.

Dallas tanked the last two games to ensure that they wouldn’t lose this years first round pick, even though they still had a chance to make the play-in tournament.

The NBA will investigate the Dallas Mavericks' decision to sit out several key players in Friday night's 115-112 loss to the Chicago Bulls that eliminated the team from Western Conference play-in contention.

"The NBA commenced an investigation today into the facts and circumstances surrounding the Dallas Mavericks' roster decisions and game conduct with respect to last night's Chicago Bulls-Mavericks game, including the motivations behind those actions," NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said Saturday afternoon.

It'd be fitting for the league to remove the trade restrictions as the penalty for Dallas.

Dallas is in this mess because the Knicks blatantly tampered for Brunson.  That cost the Knicks all of a 2025 draft pick — Dallas’ penalty shouldn’t even be that much.

Brunson was an UFA. How was there tampering? Seems like Dallas is in this mess because they didn’t lock Jalen up when they had the chance.

The NBA found that the Knicks tampered and penalized them for it.  I’m not sure how you’re questioning whether or not tampering occurred.

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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2023, 03:36:09 AM »

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The Mavs didn't just tank the last 2 games, they just made the last 2 games a super obvious tank.  Dallas was 31-26 at one point this year.  That means they closed the season at 7-18 and were just 2-9 in their last 11.  They've been tanking for awhile.
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2023, 08:34:05 AM »

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The Mavs didn't just tank the last 2 games, they just made the last 2 games a super obvious tank.  Dallas was 31-26 at one point this year.  That means they closed the season at 7-18 and were just 2-9 in their last 11.  They've been tanking for awhile.
A fine won’t hurt Cuban, taking away that 1st round pick will
I agree, I don't think they do that, but I agree. 
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