« Reply #209 on: July 20, 2018, 10:49:45 PM »
Moranis, I rly appreciate your points, but I disagree with your assessment of Mavs and Sacramento.
Mavs have better players, coach and in general team culture.
I honestly don't think they have better players or at least not a well constructed roster. I'm also not sure that the team that has been outwardly tanking for 2 seasons and has had pretty extensive bad press for sexual misconduct within its front office can claim to have a better team culture than anyone (though that seems to have missed the players). And while Carlisle is an excellent coach, Joerger has had more playoff success in the last 5 seasons than Carlisle (Mavs haven't won a playoff series since winning the title in 2011), and Joerger has also won more games his 2 seasons with the Kings than Carlisle has won with the Mavs in those same 2 seasons, so I don't think that gap is quite as large as it might otherwise seem. Frankly, I think the Mavs are due for a change as I don't think Carlisle is the right man to guide them through this rebuild.
Why do you consistently overrate teams who owe the Celtics draft picks? You did the same thing with the Nets. You thought they were a borderline playoff team. Dallas will have at least 75% more wins than Sacramento next season. I don't know how you could convince yourself otherwise. The Kings have some intriguing young talent but they don't have a roster that is going to win many games. It's so blatantly obvious to just about everyone except you. I agree with what greece666 said. The Mavs also have the young intriguing talent in Doncic and Smith Jr. And they also have some guys that can actually help them win games such as Barnes, Jordan, Mathews, and Dirk. And I totally disagree with your Carlisle assessment. He's a top 5 coach whose team hasn't tuned him out at all. His teams overachieve when they aren't tanking.
what are you talking about? I never said the Nets would be a borderline playoff team. I said they wouldn't be a bottom 5 team and they weren't. I actually pegged the Lakers as a bottom 5 team last year (both before and after the trade) and got that one wrong.
I just don't think last year was a fluke for either the Kings or Mavs. I think Bagley will have a much greater impact this season than Doncic will. I obviously might be wrong or I might not, but I've generally done a pretty good job or projecting finish locations of teams around the league.
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